Magnic Microlights: Brake shoes with integrated dynamo light

by Dirk Strothmann

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      David Dubrawa 6 days ago

      Gibt es schon Erfahrungswerte bis zu welchem Reifendurchmesser die Microlights Sinn ergeben? Ich würde sie gern an meinem Stadtrad montieren, aufgrund von Straßenbahnschienen und mieser Straßenqualität fahre ich eher breite Reifen.
      Grüße David

    2. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator 6 days ago

      Hi Patrick,

      Thank you very much. Yes the new project will start very soon (definitely in November). We won't publish exact lux values because it is clear our current prototypes won't reach the results of the final version. Currently we use standard lenses and magnet rings with minor quality for the prototypes which are not perfect. The final version shall reach ~5-10 lux per light which is enough to see well with two front lights. Even the current prototypes have enough light to enlight the road.
      Best Regards,

      Dirk

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      Patrick on November 11

      I'm glad to hear the good news, so that hopefully means the project will start soon?

      Did you do any measures about the microlights' performance, the number of lux or lumen a single light or a pair of lights produces (e.g. given a well defined distance between the microlights and the rim)? Just to get an objejctive assessement whether the microlights are rather "to be seen" than "to see".

      Best regards and good luck
      Patrick

    4. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on November 8

      Thank you for the great feedback we received from you!
      We got many questions when this campaign will start on Kickstarter and still need some days. This is mainly caused by some important updates we have intregated due to your feedback. We need to recalculate price levels for the different rewards. Due to the variety of possible options it would be possible to offer (too) many different versions but we want to keep this simple- otherwise we would end up in an unmanageable mix of versions. We received many very good proposals and some of them will be integrated in a premium version which will be on a higher price level than the basic low price version. The most important point are listed here:

      1.Magnic Microlights will be compatible with standard brake pads (Shimano & others). We will deliver good & reliable brake pads but you can exchange later with brake pads from your favorite brand.

      2.A disc brake version will be included in the project- but this will differ a lot from the brake shoe version (We have develoiped an extra design for this purpose which will be presented here within the next days).

      3.We will offer a low price version with plastic body and a high price version with aluminium body.

      4.Light beam is fully adjustable towards the road (Premium and Basic version).

      5.Both versions have standlight. (Basic version: Only rearlights have standlight)

      Best Regards,

      Dirk

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      Walter on November 7

      Finde die Idee super, für mich auch für meine Fahrten zur Arbeit sehr interessant.
      Frage: da ich oft stehen bleiben muss, wäre es super, wenn das Licht nachleuchten würde - wäre das nicht über einen Kondensator möglich?

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      Bernd Lankau on November 6

      Geniale Idee !!! Ich fahre schon lange die "Magnic Light" an meinem Schindelhauer-Bike und bin immernoch begeistert davon. Habe damals auch sehr gern ein halbes Jahr darauf warten müssen. Doch freue ich mich jetzt schon auf die "Magnic Microlight".......muss jetzt nur rausfinden, wie ich sie vorbestellen kann, auch wenn es wieder etwas dauert, bis ich sie montieren kann.
      Vielen Dank Herr Strothmann..... ich bin begeistert von Ihren Ideen!

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      Abdiel on October 26

      Super Sache! Ein Satz wird definitiv gekauft,ich würde mir allerdings ebenfalls eine Montagevariante für mein Cyclocross-Rad mit Scheibenbremsen wünschen. :-)

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      Ruud on October 25

      Yess, standard brake pads, that is perfect! I am all for that!
      Amazing that you found a solution Dirk.
      I am so backing this kickstarter once it goes live.

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      Albrecht Wolf on October 23

      Albrecht Wolf
      Interessantes und innovatives Projekt. Bin von dem Gelingen überzeugt. Die simple Montage bzw. der einfache Wechsel der Bremsklötzer gefällt mir an dem Projekt und ist für einen normalen Biker kein Problem. Nicht klar ist mir, ob auch ein Ausschalten bei Tageslicht möglich ist oder ob man permanent mit Licht unterwegs ist? Ich würde mich gern mit einem Betrag x beteiligen.

    10. Frank Kintrup on October 20

      Sorry about the double post, somehow Kickstarter messed this up :-(

      I have a suggestion for the rewards. There's missing an option that I think would be interesting:
      "Magnic Microlight Front - Extra" + "Magnic Microlight Basic Set - Rear"

    11. Frank Kintrup on October 20

      I know this questions is kind of contradictory ;-)
      Will there be a version that could be used with disc brakes?

      I don't want to miss the braking power and reliability of my disc brakes on my road bike, but I would really like to have the new sleek Microlights instead of the "bulky" standard Magnic Lights, that I'm currently using (with great satisfaction).

      So a kind of adapter would be needed to fix the Microlights (without break pads, obviously) on the fork and the rear frame. I would like to have something like a small "brake booster" design that would help to ensure proper adjustment of the Microlights to the rim.

      For my current Magnic Lights, I use the "strap-on" adapters from the shop to fit the lights to my carbon frame, but they are very difficult to align properly. It's very difficult to judge how tight one can fasten the straps on a carbon frame. Because of that and the cross sections of the fork and rear frame they also tend to shift a little while driving, which sometime causes the lights to scratch on the rims :-(

    12. Frank Kintrup on October 20

      I know this questions is kind of contradictory ;-)
      Will there be a version that could be used with disc brakes?

      I don't want to miss the braking power and reliability of my disc brakes on my road bike, but I would really like to have the new sleek Microlights instead of the "bulky" standard Magnic Lights, that I'm currently using (with great satisfaction).

      So a kind of adapter would be needed to fix the Microlights (without break pads, obviously) on the fork and the rear frame. I would like to have something like a small "brake booster" design that would help to ensure proper adjustment of the Microlights to the rim.

      For my current Magnic Lights, I use the "strap-on" adapters from the shop to fit the lights to my carbon frame, but they are very difficult to align properly. It's very difficult to judge how tight one can fasten the straps on a carbon frame. Because of that and the cross sections of the fork and rear frame they also tend to shift a little while driving, which sometime causes the lights to scratch on the rims :-(

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      Daniel Klawitter on October 19

      Hey Dirk,

      is it possible to change the sides of the brakeshoes? Can I put the light with generator from the basic set on the right side?

      Best regards,
      Daniel

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      Patrick on October 17

      Brilliant idea! And in this third implementation as Magnic Microlights brilliant implementation too!

      I'd like to put a spotlight on a specific aspect that I couldn't find in your marketing story so far: the looks. The videos, blog, website, ... they explain exemplarily how it works and also the practical advantages like no batteries, no cables, higher efficiency and so on. But with this third generation of Magnic lights you have a nice (and as far as I know the very first) solution for bicycle lights that are completely inconspicuous.
      I never did a market analysis, hence I'm for sure influenced by the urban environment I live in, but to me it seems like there are more and more of these sleek fixies and road racing bicycles, especially in the classic or vintage look. With these bicycles people had mainly three contemporary options: hub dynamo with permanently installed lights, battery ligths, or the predecessor of these Magnic Microlights. From an aesthetic point of view, all of them (yes, sorry, even the existing Magnic Light iC series) clash horribly with the otherwise perfect look of such beauties (talking of the bicycles).

      To make a long story short: please go that extra mile that makes companies like Apple so successful: make sure this (yet to be) brilliant product allows beauties to be enlightened but also to stay beauties. Offer your Magnic Microlights (front and rear) in black and metallic gray (maybe even in aluminium?). To be honest, I don't see a bicycle where the white dynamo light brake shoes shown in the video actually look good. Besides black and metallic I could fancy clear/transparent brake shoes too.

      These are just my five cents.

      All in all, I really like your idea and I'm looking forward to see this project going live!

      BTW: I fully support Greg's request for supporting standard break pads.

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      AndroE on October 13

      Does the new "Microlights" move the LEDs nearer to the rim and cause more shadow by the tire than the existing Magniclight design? Can the beam be adjusted?

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      greg
      Superbacker
      on October 13

      Thanks for making the changes to accept "standard" brake pads... I'm sure this will increase the market for these lights since you can basically use any brake pad you want. This is an important issue for me, and I am sure, many potential users as well.

    17. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 13

      @Greg Thanks for your suggestions. I spent the last day making the system compatible with standard brake pads - and finally found a solution that costs only 3 mm extra length. Currently it's in 3D-printing and will be presented in the project next week. Project start has to be shifted to end of october because we need to wait for documents concerning taxes (From tax perspective Crowdfunding in Germany is very difficult and we want to avoid "expensive" mistakes).

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      greg
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      on October 11

      Just one more point... You are light manufacturer, not a brake pad manufacturer... Why take on the burden of having to create a new brake pad specifically for your light instead of just using the "standard" one that is available cheaply everywhere...

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      greg
      Superbacker
      on October 11

      I think 10mm longer would be more than acceptable if the lights can accept "standard" brake pads... It's not that I change my brake pads every 6 months, but the brake pads you supply on the lights may not be suitable for all wheels/rims, e.g. Carbon Fibre wheels/rims, etc, and I would prefer to change to my preferred brake pads if that is the case...

      Another benefit if you re-design the lights to accept "standard" brake pads, is that you no longer have to make/manufacture custom brakes to go with the light, and you could actually just sell the lights without any brake pads installed, so that people who would like to use a specific brand of brake pads can just buy your lights without the brake pads, and just install their own..

    20. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 11

      @Greg "Standard" brake pads are an option but we would need to make the complete design longer: Would be ~10mm extra . It might be possible to add this as a "stretch goal" . I know this is important for many roadbikers. On the other side most of the "normal" cyclists don't change brake pads for years, if at all. So we need to consider if there is big interest from the "professionals".

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      greg
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      on October 10

      It's sad to hear that "standard" brake pads can't be used on this. I think you should have designed the system around the "standard" brake pads instead of requiring custom brake pads.... I don't think any of the big manufacturers will want to make brake pads just for your lights since the market isn't big enough for them to justify the tooling cost...

    22. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 10

      @Greg: Sure you can replace brake pads.And you can be assured these will have very good quality. Unfortunately it won't be possible to use any "standard" brake pads you currently use. The only chance would be to find a "big brand" interested in producing brake pads compatible to our system. We asked some but noone was interested until now. We hope to get some attention and maybe situation might change after a succesful campaign.

    23. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 10

      @Dominik Thank you for the suggestions. There will be a lot of updates the next days. 360 (degrees) was just an idea for "front + rearlight" sets. There won't be single brakeshoes just for one side.

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      Dominik Hamann on October 10

      Replace Extra with Standlight
      and Basic with Reflector.
      Choose Set OR 360. Or do you say, this is a wood tree?

      Keep it simple.

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      greg
      Superbacker
      on October 9

      Can you replace the brake pads on these? I'm assuming that this is possible, since I won't be willing to spend another €70 just to replace the brake pads when they are worn out... Besides, I'm sure many of us will want to swap out the brake pads that come with the light with the special ones that we are already using..

    26. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 9

      @Greg: The basic version is a pair of brake-shoes but just one side has generator & light. The other side is a "simple" brake shoe just with a reflector. We will show this much better soon. The extra version has generator+ light on both sides + standlight.

    27. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 7

      Front and Rearlight beams can be rotated separately from the main housing. It works similar to the turning mechanism of the "normal" Magnic Lights.

    28. Wilhelm Herbrich on October 7

      Hey Dirk, great idea, something like this is way over due. I have one thought: Is the direction the light shines going to be adjustable? A lot of brake shoes, especially on the rear end, need different tilt angles. What are you planning to do to counteract this, so that the light can beam in the same desired direction no matter how the brake shoes are tilted?

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      Martin Plöckinger on October 5

      Wann gibt es die Lampen zu kaufen bzw. ab wann kann man bestellen?

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      greg
      Superbacker
      on October 4

      I'm not clear on what is the difference between the "Basic" and the "Extra" version of the lights? Maybe you could clarify this?

    31. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on October 4

      @Michael Ja, Magura-kompatible Dynamos sind auch geplant. Das wird bei den Rewards dann auch extra sichtbar sein.

    32. Michael Guenzel on October 4

      Wird es die Microlights auch für Magura-Bremsen geben?

    33. Jan Eichler on October 2

      Great idea Dirk!
      Just one important thing, as the stopping power remains the most important, the pad material will play a huge role with somehow reduced braking surface - I hope you will offer some very soft pads such as salmon Kool stop - I found the best braking performance in the wet and dry.. so I wouldn´t like to loose the stopping power and rim-friendly soft pads.. othewise great idea, I really hope this will come to live! All the best

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      David Dubrawa on September 29

      Tolles Projekt. Ich finde auch den Preis jetzt nicht so hoch, wenn man bedenkt das man sich den Nabendynamo, die Leuchten und die Kabel spart. Und damit auch diverse Fehlerquellen. (Ich möchte nicht wissen wieviel Zeit ich schon aufgrund defekter Kabel verbracht habe.)
      Viel Erfolg! Ich bin dabei.

    35. Dirk Strothmann 2-time creator on September 29

      @Ronald Wem 45 € für zwei Bremsschuhe inkl. Dynamobeleuchtung zu teuer sind, dem müssen wir andere Produkte empfehlen (z.b. Batterielampen aus dem Discounter). Viele möchten für ein Rad weniger als 300€ investieren und auch dazu gibt es entsprechende Angebote. Das muss jeder für sich selbst entscheiden. Eine Version mit Kondensator ist übrigens vorgesehen (siehe -> Belohnungen).

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      Ronald Brauer on September 29

      Hallo,
      prinzipiell gute Idee, aber viel zu teuer. Außerdem fehlt wohl noch ein Speicherkondensator für Licht beim stehen an der Ampel - oder täusche ich mich da? Sonst benötigt man ja dann doch so ein Batterie-Teil für das Rücklicht um gesehen zu werden.
      Bitte um feedback: ronaldab@web.de
      Ronald

    37. Alex Bülk on September 29

      Großartige Idee und Umsetzung. Hoffentlich klappt es mit der Finanzierung.

    38. Rene Winkler on September 29

      Tolles Konzept! Leider für das Komplettset noch sehr teuer. Wenn sich das durchsetzt und bei höheren Stückzahlen die Preise sinken: nie wieder Lampen mit Batterie

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      Hermann Hagedorn on September 29

      An meinem Renner habe ich den "Vorgänger" seit Jahren. Noch nichts besseres kennen gelernt. Freue mich schon auf den "Nachfolger" - ist ja kurz vor Weihnachten!

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      Heike Priess on September 29

      Sehen und gesehen werden, bald ohne Mehraufwand und mit wenig Gewicht problemlos möglich! Super!!!

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      Volker Kiehn on September 28

      Sehr schönes System, finde es gut, dass es so unauffällig am Rennrad verbaut werden kann!

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      Florian on September 27

      Dirk, very nice! I can only see pros and no cons compared to the current version - and I am very happy with the latter today indeed! Lighter, smaller, less obvious and therefore less attractive to thieves. My first priority to brake pads is stopping power though so I expect the same quality as in high end brake pads.
      Good luck with the next generation!

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      Jon Webb on September 27

      I see my comment was garbled somehow. I'd like to see the rear light and generator separated, so the rear light is visible when panniers are attached.

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      Jon Webb on September 27

      Dirk, I'm really excited about this. I think you've solved the main mechanical problem with the lights by integrating them with the breaker pad. This is a huge step forward.
      In the future I'd like to see you separate the generator from the light, as an option, so that, in particular, the rear light could be mounted on a carrier, so it's visible when panniers are mounted.
      Thanks very much for continuing to improve this amazing achievement.

    45. Richard Carter on September 26

      This looks like a really imaginative project: good luck, with it!

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Nach zwei erfolgreichen Kickstarter Projekten für den ersten berührungslosen Felgendynamo Magnic Light ist uns jetzt durch Miniaturisierung des Systems und Weiterentwicklung der Magnettechnologie die Integration in Bremsschuhe für herkömmliche Fahrrad-Felgenbremsen gelungen!  

Magnic Microlight Vorderlicht- Prototyp
Magnic Microlight Vorderlicht- Prototyp

Das Ergebnis sind Magnic Microlights: Die ersten Bremsschuhe mit integriertem Dynamolicht- und "magischer" berührungsloser Magnic Light Wirbelstrom-Magnettechnik:  

Per Wirbelstrominduktion sorgt ein Magnetrad im Inneren des Generators dafür, dass bei Felgenbewegung über einen Luftspalt in der Felge auch in nicht-magnetischen Aluminiumfelgen temporäre Magnetfelder entstehen, die den Generator wie von Geisterhand in Betrieb versetzen.

Damit können wir hier das erste batterielose Beleuchtungssystem für Fahrräder präsentieren, das keine zusätzlich anzubringenden Komponenten am Fahrrad erfordert: Einfach die alten Bremsklötze gegen Magnic Microlights austauschen und das Rad ist rundum beleuchtet

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Die zuvor auf Kickstarter erfolgreichen Magnic Light -System wurden bereits mit Design-, Funktions- ,und Umweltpreisen wie dem GreenTec-Award, dem German Design Award oder dem ISPO Award ausgezeichnet. 

Die Magnic Microlights liefern trotz minimaler Größe und geringstem Gewicht genügend Licht zur Ausleuchtung des Weges, so dass die ursprünglich nur als Positionsleuchten geplanten Microlampen als vollwertige Radbeleuchtung verwendbar sind. Eine dauerhafte Nutzbarkeit ist gewährleistet da die Bremsgummis nach Abnutzung einzeln austauschbar sind.  

Ein Fernsehbeitrag zu den Magnic Microlights läuft am 26.9.2017 um 19:50 Uhr im MDR in der Sendung "Einfach Genial".

Diese Kickstarter Seite (incl. Video) ist noch nicht komplett fertiggestellt, was unter anderem daran lag, dass wir in den letzten Wochen mit Produktkopien unserer Lampen aus Asien zu kämpfen hatten.

Wir rechnen damit, den Start in der ersten Oktoberwoche zu schaffen: Das ist für alle die wichtig, die versuchen eines der ersten 1000 Sets für nur einen Euro zu bekommen!

Wir empfehlen, sich dazu über unserer Webseite www.magniclight.com

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