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I can't disagree with Savvy. Pretty fair points all around...
That said though, I'm a Demon backer (300 Euro), and could really use that money right about now. I've been holding off on asking for a refund, and will continue to do so, but @Dreadlocks HAS to come back with monthly updates or something. I don't go to the forums anymore, since they've been dead to me for some time now (not even sure I remember my login creds). So, as a generous backer, I'm asking for monthly updates, please. Even if it's not about GT, I want to know what's going on with the company. I don't want to just sit here in the dark or scour the forums for tidbits of info. If that can't happen, I may be forced into requesting a refund; and that's no small chunk of change for a studio in as dire straits as DL claims to be.
TL;DR - I pledged 300 Euro. I do not want to ask for a refund, but I will if we can't get monthly updates here on KS.
Just wanna throw in my two cents here: when you ask for a refund you are not just withdrawing the money you pledged but also stealing from the experience that everyone else gave money to see.
You already gave the Indian the booze and they are still trying to get the deed from the chef, you can’t just take it back man.
No, I’m not saying Dreadlocks is excused, they’ve made their fair share of stupid business decisions, what I am saying is: judging lateness in kickstarters is on a case by case basis, These guys tried they gave it their best and unfortunately for them it just didn’t work out. All of the money that they got from the kickstarter? it’s gone. Poof. They used it to keep afloat, now if you “get a refund” you’re just taking cash out of peoples pockets, that they will have to pull from their regular every day life.
You can feel entitled to a refund, sure, hell I feel like I’m entitled to argue with strangers on the internet. I don’t know you financial situation, but if it’s so bad that you neeeeeeed the moneeeeeeeey, have I got news for your sorry ass: Get off of kickstarter dipshit, the root of your problems is overspending and compulsive buying, not some company that went tits up. If the game had been completed you would be in the same boat as you are now, but with another video game in your digital library.
Now I’m going to scold DL a bit because they don’t have clean hands in this matter: you launched the kickstarter to early. Boom. I said it. The KS would definitely have been better if you had had a demo so people could try it. You would have gotten way more backers that way.
If you look at my comments in this forum I’m no white knight, I am actually quite an asshole. Just an asshole hoping against all hope that this game gets released.
TL;DR: rambles for a bit, says some naughty things but not anything important.
@black these guys are finished bro . there was only 3 of them in april. they took our money and tried to promote this game to other publishers wasting our money given to them. these guys are a scam. other games with less money delivered their game. these guys wanted a big publisher deal and they didn't get it so they fucked off.
no one is working on this game, they can't secure any additional funds. the studio is dead and no one since april even talked on the backer forums.
Why would it be funny to defend someone who's already down and out?
You make it sound like you're the only one backer who risked losing money.
News flash: WE ALL ARE.
I probably could use the money more than you do but I'm adverse to trying to squeeze water out of a dry sponge.
Let them sort out their financial woes first then remind them again about your refund.
Also, it's good sense to change a refunded backer's status to non-backer (so that if the game actually came out, the creator need not send them rewards); thus disabling their ability to comment here that they were refunded.
@blackguantlet funny you defend them when no one has been getting any refund. who here can claim they got a refund? i was promised a refund in december and look 6 months still no refund. i pledged 90 euro. they do not want to give me my money.
I'm behind a firewall that forbids me to visit their website so...
Anyway, if many people have already suggested it to them, I'm sure they can already see it.
@BackGauntlet, that's a good idea, several of the (other backers myself included) had expressed that they would like an episodic game. So they don't lose your suggestion would you repost it on the forums?
@Emanuela, they are working on the game, (speculation:) progress is slow because there are 5 people working on the game, (end speculation).
As said in update #18 they had to let their community manager go, so that is why we have received so much silence.
Geez... what's with the fellow backers in this project? Here we have a creator who readily admits mistake and even willing to refund backers but getting shit heaped onto them. Hey, why not find a wounded puppy, beat it till it's whimpering on the floor then kick it while it's down?
I personally am no stranger to poking at and berating creators *who fully deserves it* but you guys give off so much negative vibes that I'm surprised you're not oozing ectoplasm by now. Just send an email to them to obtain your refund then be done with this project. That's all you need to do.
I would very much still want to see GT see the light of day. No one else have yet to implement the idea of a Ghost-Hunting Simulator and it'd be a shame to see that honor of being the first be taken from you when someone does. And I still believe you can do it in a modular basis.
1) Original base
2) 1st haunted house (could also be the original base)
3) Allow the game character to upload paranormal footage to obtain sponsorships and/or Youtube moneys to upgrade equipment (longer lasting batteries, better tracking device, video quality, audio cleaner) or skills (stamina, speed in changing equipment, exorcism) to a certain level
4) Allows player to buy plane, train and ferry tickets to travel around the world.
5) Sell other Haunted Locations as DLCs when available.
so whats up now devs? are you working on the game or are other projects now more importend?
I enjoyed it some parts were frustrating to complete though.
How was YookaLaylee?
Heard it wasn't too hot.
Kickstarter games take way too long to come out I think I’m just gonna stick to buying ones that come out in retail stores. Like yooka laylee didn’t even know that was kickstarted but picked up a copy once it released in stores.
More like Ghost Theory! XD
That joke sounded better in my head.
As of yesterday, it's been officially 2 years since Dreadlocks collected all of our money to fund this doomed project. According to the rewards page, there are 15 people who spent over 350 dollars to fund this game. 1 person spent close to three grand. In my opinion, the proper thing to do would be to refund those backers who paid the most, and officially cancel the project. Apologize to the backers for failing to deliver and be done with it.
It is the bad side of kickstarters. There are people who just want our money
I too would like a refund, we have seen NOTHING from this at all and its been almost 2 years now ?
*not meant to be
@Dreadlocks - My sincere apologies if my comment came off as negative. It was not meant to me. I'm still behind you guys, wishing and hoping for the day you get to say that Ghost Theory lives!!
I just meant to suggest that you use the Dreadlocks account more often. I didn't mean to imply that you went totally silent. Again, my apologies.
I will hop back over to the forums! I'd given up on them a while back because it was so quiet over there. I'll give it a look-see, and get in on the buzz! :)
how do I get a refund?
I would be willing to accept a smaller but well designed game, we all fall in the s**t from time to time and I have had my fair share of it, that said I do agree that a small demo of some sort should be available by this stage.
We have an update. Not a good one. Just wondering how the money was utilised considering nothing has been shown of development and now stating you’re delivering ghost theory out of your own pocket? Never did get the confirmation about my refund. I was told how much I’d get but no confirmation of and when I’d get it.
On another note I’d like to write this ks off as a lost cause. It was never going to happen with such a low goal, I think we need a reality check. You tried there’s no point in going broke out of your own pocket just to release something that may never happen. Give yourselves a break and please be upfront and honest. The money was squandered and now you have nothing to show for it. Give us some credit, we’re not idiots. Just admit the reality so we can move on
So the new update is out. @Night1505 - We're using also other accounts to log in KS through collaboration mode. It's not that we wouldn't check KS at all. We are more active on the backer's forum than on KS. It's what we made it for. We answered your last posts there in March. It's not that we went silent for half a year.
+1 bingo dear sir, bingo.
If we have not even seen a demo, if because this project is death.
I'm sorry but you took £57k from backers here to produce something, and by all accounts you have produced nothing. You haven't progressed 1% of the way into development aside from some basic art and modelling. You said you will refund, but can only afford to pay back 5x refunds a month after taking so much money from people - and then it seems you're not even doing that... and then you barely log-in...
If you're crunching right now, you should be crunching on the GAME YOU CROWDFUNDED.
You used the pledges from Kickstarter to fund other aspects of your business and prioritised other projects.
I get there is a risk with every Kickstarter, but the way you're stringing everyone along and some people are buying it is incredibly disappointing. Just pull the plug or do the decent thing and refund the people who are asking for refunds.
+1 to Night1505's comment. More communication is key, especially when there have been significant problems and delays. You'll avoid a lot of unnecessary backer angst, if you're just open with your communication. (See Space Goat Productions campaigns - all of them - for how to completely do this the wrong way.) I will say that their comment "...to be able to work on GT again" sounds like they haven't been working on it at all.
@Dreadlocks - I'm still behind you in support. Have been this whole time. But... you really do need to log into Kickstarter more often than once every 2 months. Most of us understand that progress is very slow... some months perhaps even non-existent. But we need to know you haven't written us off, at least. :)
Definitely need to see what this update will hold for us
Hey Hunters! We are still here, alive, yours and dedicated to make GT happen! We are still fully focused on developing things to get us future income to be able to work on GT again. Let us finish what we're doing now, it will take us a week or two to get out of the worst crunch and then we'll come back to you with an update to tell you all news.
I didn’t want a refund and still don’t... but two months without even logging into Kickstarter to check on backers is beyond ridiculous. It shows a complete lack of respect for backers who put faith in them. I have contacted them and said if they don’t have something to show us, i need to see about possibly starting refund process. I spent a lot on this... and was remaining loyal and trusting. But this has gotten to be a slap in the face. No one is asking for weekly updates. But to just blow us off completely, not bother even stopping in in two months?! Unacceptable
@Tyson - Not that you are wrong to feel the way you do in any way, but the optimist in me still wants to suggest that maybe "April wave" means end of the month? Hopefully? Can you comment back and let us know again if you still don't have your refund at least started by the end of the month? I still want to believe they will do what they said they will do, so let me be optimistic for just a couple more weeks? :)
ya i didnt get any refund and half way thru the month now. i think the game is finally dead.
Me either... i invested a lot into this in the hopes of having my wife’s image and voice in the game. It was actually a birthday gift. Even with all the holdups and everything i have stuck it out. But when they don’t even log in to talk with it check on backers for almost two months... it makes it appear as if it’s a taking the money and running situation
I wonder why they switch from Unity to CryEngine and not to Unreal Engine 4? Didn't want to give the 5% cut to Epic?
Well, it's been a week since my last comment requesting an update, but I see that DL still hasn't logged on since then. That's disappointing.
+1 on the requests for an update.
DL last logged in to KS on February 23, 2018. Not to say they aren't checking this page without logging in, but that doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
+1 to Robb’s comment. It’s been a month and half since DL’s last comment and over 3 months since the last “update,” not that it contained any real info. Come on guys, give us an update.
Going to go ahead and post a link here too.
Also posted this on the forums, however this place gets a little more traffic.
Just wanted to drop a note saying that I fully understand the risks of backing a project on Kickstarter, and I'd really like to see this game happen. I don't want a refund or anything like that, and I won't ever ask for a refund even if this game gets canceled. That's part of backing a project on Kickstarter. But I WOULD like an update. What do you say, Team Dreadlocks?
Think this game will be out in 2019, 2020 or later? Thinking of posting on of those straw polls things here or on the forms to get everyone’s best guesses.
Ok. So Space Goat isn't a good example to be using as they've just been caught in outright lies to backers regarding the production status of their ED2 game (and having gone radio silent on the Terminator game).
That aside, we still deserve an update on where this game stands.
+1 asking for another update! It's been several months now and there are still outstanding questions.
Also, you are not the only KS creators who offer refunds without cancelling the project game. Space Goat is also doing that on the Terminator Board Game, though I plan on keeping my pledge there too.
thank you for confirming me for an April wave refund and letting us know that it's 5 refunds a month. I'm really sorry for asking demanding a refund and it's true no other KS would even offer them. I was really interested in trying any demo is why I pledged so High. But I don't think this game will release sadly. If we ever get a confirmed release day, however I would pre-order in a heart a beat. I wish your studio the best of luck and I'm sorry, I know you guys are probably stressed out.
I wish we got the chance to play that short demo that was shown on youtube channel last year. It looked very promising. I just wish there more updates from you guys whether its here or youtube.
hi I havent heard anything since December about my own refund, but if it's 5 refunds a month, then I can underrstand why it's so slow. If you could just confirm I'd appreciate it.
Will we be getting any update soon? hasn’t been anything since November
Hi Tyson, we're trying to process your refund request as soon as possible. At this moment we are able to make about 5 refunds per months. For us it is still the most important to continue working on the game. Please be patient. In the last message we sent you we wrote that we will inform you, not that you're be in the second wave of refunds. I can confirm, that you will be a part of April wave.
The refund is our initiative. I think we are the first Kickstarter project who offer refunds without canceling the game. We don't have a reason to lie about it.
i was promised a refund £73.40... still nothing 2/16/2018! they told me the "next wave of refunds" that was in december 2017. was not contacted.. i knew they wouldn't honor my refund since i was a high tier backer...
Also still hangin’ on. Hoping you all get to make the game you absolutely want to make. I still absolutely want to play it! Hope all’s well