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Liberate your phone from the cup holder! Change the way you drive; Charge, Jam, & GPS. The best of your iPhone front and center.
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Paul Lizer

326 backers pledged $72,042 to help bring this project to life.

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    1. Creator Andrew Cathrow on December 4

      Casey, thanks for looking into that.
      On one hand that does answer a number of questions, but we also need to remember that Paul had gone silent a long time before that, there was a brief period where some (dubious) updates were made - for example I wonder if there every was a beta program.

      I suspect this project was dead before this happened and this put the nail in the coffin.

    2. Creator Casey on November 30

      Onics told me that they notifIed Devium in September 2013. Would have him been nice to tell us what is going on. I would really like to know what assets Devium has. If Onics actually has aworded patents then Paul should found them. But if he is giving up on Devium then he needs to liquidate and try and pay us back what he can... This is bad news.

    3. Creator Casey on November 28

      Now we know what happens. In the comment section for Onics it said they sent cease and diciest letter as they already had the patents. Would have been nice for Paul to let us know. I asked the Onics creator when this letter was sent. If it was before the end of the campaign then we have a strong case for fraud. Even better if they also notified Kickstarter and KS diff cancel the project we might be able to go after KS.

    4. Creator Bruce Broecker on November 5

      Anyone else seen this new project on KS?
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onics/onics-a-smart-car-for-everyone
      Sounds remarkably similar to the Dash

    5. Creator Peter Mills on October 28

      This project may come back to haunt him. There has been more exposure of failed projects and some accountability by state AGs pursuing them as fraud.

      http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/undelivered-kickstarter-project-meets-washingtons-wrath/

      http://pando.com/tag/indiegogo/

      Kickstarter needs to take control of the fraud before everyone ditches their system for one that actually works.

    6. Creator Dirk Siegel on August 26, 2014

      Sony XSP-N1BT as an alternative, is more or less the same idea. But it's a real product. I think I will never get a Dash or a refund of my 500 Bucks. Lessons learned.

    7. Creator Casey on August 23, 2014

      I wonder if this project is most expensive project for the creator to bail.

    8. Creator Monika Sanders on August 9, 2014

      I wonder if AmEx claims will refund the money--300 bucks is a little more than I like to send down the drain. EVER.

    9. Creator Casey on July 4, 2014

      Happy fourth of July. Which marks a full year since the last update.

    10. Creator Casey on June 4, 2014

      If anyone is in the Colorado area, you should still attend on the off chance he actually shows up.

    11. Creator Peter Mills on June 4, 2014

      Hi All,

      Jed posted a survey to collect information from backers so we can share information outside of this forum. (http://bit.ly/DissatisfiedWithDash) Please take a moment to fill out the survey if you haven't done so already. Thanks!

    12. Creator Peter Mills on June 4, 2014

      This was just posted on the previously mentioned Coffee Club website:

      "One of the biggest risks of crowdfunding, for supplier and backer alike, is the risk of not being able to deliver what is promised within the promised timelines. One of our planned panelists for Open Coffee Club (Paul Lizer) has experienced that very real pitfall directly. This is an extremely difficult issue for anyone to deal with and Paul is dealing with it in his own way. Out of respect for Paul's desired handling of the situation, and to avoid having Open Coffee Club become a public forum between Paul and his backers, we've decided to replace Paul on the panel and continue with the event."

      So his own way is to just completely ignore everyone? It's good for them they replaced him because obviously not qualified to mentor anyone, but I really wish he had presented because it could possibly be a source of information for what really happened.

    13. Creator Peter Mills on June 3, 2014

      Good find, Andrew. I encourage everyone monitoring these comments to join the conversation here:

      meetup.com/opencoffeeclub/events/179819332/

      I just can't figure out why Paul won't say anything to us but he's willing to be a speaker at an open forum. Knowing his background with this project I'd never want any advice from him!

    14. Creator Andrew Cathrow on June 3, 2014

      Interesting, check out this link

      http://csbj.com/2014/05/26/horizon-may-23-2014/

      Coffee Club

      Epicentral Coworking space offers Crowdfunding Vs. Bootstrapping Coffee Club, 7:30 a.m. at the coworking space, 409 N. Tejon St., Suite 106. Kristie Wilkerson from Startup Weekend II, Conor McCluskey of BombBomb and Paul Lizer of Devium will speak. To register: meetup.com/opencoffeeclub/ events/179819332/

    15. Creator Mikhailov Yura on May 28, 2014

      Something changed in domain account about one month ago:
      Domain Name: DEVIUM.COM
      Updated Date: 28-apr-2014
      Expiration Date: 10-may-

      btw. guys from U.S.A, i dont beleive, that you have no time and chance to go to Colorado Springs and find out whats wrong with this project. I rather do it by myself, but i live in 5600 miles (9000km) away from this place, across the ocean. I think, somebody with company or not, have to do it, find this guy and ask him questions. I did not call you racket him or something like that, I just asking you to get answers for all the people who were involved in this performance.

    16. Creator Peter Mills on May 19, 2014

      Report ALL scam projects to Kickstarter ALL at once

      If you're a backer of a scam project, hit that report button today! Let's flood some inboxes. Get other backers to join by posting in the comments.

      Please support this effort to demand acocuntability!

    17. Creator adriana on May 15, 2014

      Added to the kickscammed page! DOWN WITH PAUL!

    18. Creator sohjsolwin on May 9, 2014

      @Casey, Kanin, Tony, et al, Count me in too. While I would like my money back, if he hadn't let it escalate this far, I'd probably be fine with a solid explanation of what he was doing, what went wrong, and why. That's no less than would be required were he to have sourced his funding from somewhere else, like investors.

    19. Creator Casey on May 6, 2014

      I'm ready for some of that as well. Though just have to wonder how many people have contacted the WA attorney general? I am sure there are quite a few projects that have gone south....

      To Paul Lizer: It's not too late. Just tell us what happened! If the funding went dry, show us the statements. What is upsetting us more then anything is you just disappearing. I would think you would at least want to defend yourself.

    20. Creator Kanin on May 6, 2014

      Count me in.

    21. Creator Tony Wong on May 5, 2014

      Hi Andrew, I hope you are correct. I am in Canada so I've probably got the least standing compared to an American to get this thing escalated in a U.S. State court.

      I would guess if someone in Washington could complain to the Washington AG maybe he'd look at this case as well?

      More about it here:
      http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/undelivered-kickstarter-project-meets-washingtons-wrath/

    22. Creator Andrew Cathrow on May 2, 2014

      Tony, I just saw that article and was about it post it here.
      but I don't think we need someone in CO, that kickstarter was based in TN but a WA state sued them. It makes me think that we just need an attorney regardless of location

    23. Creator Tony Wong on May 2, 2014

      ...attorney general for the state of Washington has filed a lawsuit against a company that raised more than $25,000 on Kickstarter but allegedly didn’t deliver the playing-card deck it promised its crowd-funding investors.

      http://www.pcworld.com/article/2150780/firstofakind-kickstarter-lawsuit-highlights-risks-of-crowd-funding.html

      Can someone who is in CO complain to the AG?

    24. Creator James Botham on April 22, 2014

      Hey fuck tits give us our money back before people start looking for you!

    25. Creator Casey on April 19, 2014

      Has anyone investigated a class action against him?

    26. Creator Bruce Broecker on April 11, 2014

      Well, if y'all feel real strongly about this, the domain registration for devium.com is about to expire on May 10th. You could always try squatting on the domain for your payback.

      BTW, looks like he is using Office 365 in conjunction with this domain. I find that a little disconcerting, because that isn't necessarily cheap.

    27. Creator Dirk Siegel on April 8, 2014

      REFUND REFUND REFUND

    28. Creator James Botham on April 7, 2014

      Logged on April 2nd and still no response to us....no respect!

    29. Creator Tommy Chong on March 27, 2014

      Refund refund!!! =) maybe I have higher chance of hitting the lotto

    30. Creator Casey on March 17, 2014

      Does anyone know how to contact this cowered?

    31. Creator Joseph Townsend on March 7, 2014

      REFUND REFUND REFUND

    32. Creator adriana on March 5, 2014

      REFUND REFUND REFUND

    33. Creator adriana on February 20, 2014

      :( this is so sad and illegal. I vote we just keep sending messages until someone gives us our money back or we will sue!

    34. Creator Tony Wong on January 23, 2014

      Hi Drew, you seem to be correct in your assessment that Kickstarter is toothless when it comes down to scams and failed projects, yet they are taking a fee for the crowdfunding matchmaking service.

      I always suspected that Paul Lizer didn't know what he was doing since the amount that he was looking for was way too low to be reasonable. Most hardware projects require a lot more money to get going but I decided to give Mr. Lizer and kickstarter the benefit of the doubt.

      I bet Kickstarter would have a lot more skeptical eyes if they were to label their which of their 'successful' projects failed to deliver in the end, because those numbers are not insignificant.

      Mr. Lizer should just bite the bullet and tell everyone here the project is dead by posting an update. Others with failed projects have come and done this, and people have been accepting of this.

      Perhaps there should be a kickstarter launched for the backers of this project to sue Mr. Lizer for not delivering *anything* at all.

    35. Creator Drew Furney on January 15, 2014

      Just to update you folks...

      I did send an e-mail to Kickstarter:

      ------Email Start------
      Hello;

      This is the second attempt made to contact you folks.

      The project creator received funds from backers well over a year ago, and communicated about development of the project regularly until simply stopping. He then refused to answer questions, refused to post any further updates, and apparently has not logged into Kickstarter since September. During the early stages of the project, I DID connect with him through Facebook, and have seen regular status updates about his personal life all through this time. Seeing no other recourse, I did send a polite message to him on Facebook requesting an update, and his response was simply to remove me from his friends list.

      On your "help" page, you list the following:

      "Is a creator legally obligated to fulfill the promises of their project?
      Yes. Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill."

      Not only has the creator utterly failed at delivering on the project, he has ceased communicating with his backers in total, for absolutely no reason given. There was never any indication of blocking issues or challenges to fulfillment, just simply zero communication. Backers inherently understand that projects may meet challenges, as did I when I pledged my support. However, simply ceasing to communicate is unforgiveable. Kickstarter assures us that there are legal obligations placed upon creators to fulfill their end... What more does this guy need to do for Kickstarter to look into this matter in an official capacity?

      This man advertised a product, took thousands of dollars of our cash, and vanished. How is this acceptable behavior, and how is it that we, as backers, are simply supposed to accept that this is a normal risk when backing a Kickstarter project? How are we supposed to accept that there is little to nothing that can be done from Kickstarter's end?
      ------Email End------

      And received the following response:

      ------Email Start------
      Hi Drew,

      Thanks for writing in and sharing your experience with me. I'm sorry for the frustration you've experienced from backing this project, and you should know that I've personally reached out to this creator on behalf of the backers of Dash. I reminded the creator of our Terms of Use, as well as our expectations that he keep his backers updated about how the project is going. It's disheartening that this hasn't happened, and I've made a note about this should the creator want to submit another project in the future. Our Trust & Safety team has also been made aware of this situation, as creators who don't meet our expectations won't be allowed to start another project on the site.

      Per the Terms that you quoted, the agreement you enter into when you back a project establishes a legal requirement for creators to either fulfill their rewards as promised or issue refunds to backers for whom they can't provide rewards. While Kickstarter is the platform for this agreement, we are not a part of it. We certainly encourage creators to fulfill rewards, offer refunds, and communicate with backers, but we're unable to force them to do so. It's the creator's responsibility to complete their project as promised or to issue refunds.

      I'm sorry again that this has been such an unpleasant experience. I hope that my message to the creator merits a response soon in which they can address your concerns. In the meantime, I'll share your experience with the rest of the team as we continue to evaluate our policies and procedures moving forward.

      Thanks,
      Megan
      ------Email End------

      Sooo... that's it, folks. Show's over. I hope you didn't need that money, because you'll never see it again.

      While I appreciate the response, their position of simply being a "platform" for the legal bindings they place on creators renders those bindings utterly meaningless. There is utterly zero difference, at this point, between a legitimate crowdsourcing attempt and a common scam. It's honestly saddening that Kickstarter would allow this to happen, rather than honoring the spirit of the assurances they provide backers.

    36. Creator Casey on January 13, 2014

      DREW: well, at least we know he is still alive. Also, since he most likely has one of the prototype installed in his car, it will be a constant reminder everyday when he gets in his car how he has treated those who gave him the money to make his dream radio a reality.. when if he is the only one who gets to enjoy it.

    37. Creator Drew Furney on January 11, 2014

      Okay. So.

      Back when this project was first getting started, I found him on Facebook and friended him. Since, our interaction has been minimal and professional, where I offered some suggestions for the product that seemed to be valuable to him. That was a half a year or so ago. As he started becoming more silent, I didn't ask questions, because I didn't want to seem adversarial. Until two days ago. I messaged him this -

      "Hey, Paul - I know it's a little unprofessional to reach out to your personal Facebook, but there's a hell of a lot of backers (including myself) confused and frustrated about Dash. Delays and unexpected blockers I totally get, but the complete silence is a little hard to understand. What gives?"

      No response. For several days. I tried again.

      "Seriously? Nothing?"

      I'm now no longer on his friends list.

      This is crystal clear proof that not only is this thing completely dead in the water, he's actively running from his responsibility to communicate with his backers, deliver a product, or even be a decent human being. NOW I'm pissed.

    38. Creator James Botham on January 10, 2014

      LMAO guess the tool couldn't keep that job...doesn't seem to be very good at anything he does!!

    39. Creator Matthew on January 9, 2014

      Yup. Time to give up ever getting answers or knowing how far he got with this project.

      Tried to call the Amnet number, he no longer works there so that didn't help.

    40. Creator James Botham on January 9, 2014

      This guy is the biggest loser! Karma is a bitch!

    41. Creator Casey on January 8, 2014

      Not to rub salt in the wound, but just found on another site that this Sony radio is suppose to be available in May for around $250...

    42. Creator James Botham on January 7, 2014

      Its dead he should just hand over what little he has left of our funds and say sorry for being such an A**. He could have handled things a thousand different ways and any of them would have been better that just going "dark" like he did. Very classless move!

    43. Creator Casey on January 1, 2014

      Happy New Year everyone. I wonder if we will get an update this year.

    44. Creator Casey on December 29, 2013

      So, now what do we do. Even kickstarter has stopped responding to email.

    45. Creator Tom Wilson on December 20, 2013

      It's too bad because I would still like this

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