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Help bring to life secret-agent worthy wrist watches where traditional rotating hands are replaced by horizontally moving cursors.
Secret-agent worthy wrist watches where traditional rotating hands are replaced by horizontally moving cursors.
Secret-agent worthy wrist watches where traditional rotating hands are replaced by horizontally moving cursors.
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    1. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Keith Gehrke - You're too kind. I've said it before, it takes great backers to make a great project. I'm confident I have the best backers, so I only did my part so far, and it's not over...only 50% of the backers have received their watch.

    2. Keith Gehrke on

      Received the watch today! First noticed the wonderful packaging. Watching the video on the site to help with initial programming was really helpful. The quality of the watch is stunning. Really fun to use. My favorite Kickstarter project so far! Well done!

    3. Parisri on

      I change my mind, I'll pay for accerelate shipping.

    4. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Parisri - The big question :) Update #20 pushed the date at the end of May but I think somewhere in June would be a safer assumption. I think 4 weeks to make 300+ watches by hand is optimistic, that is why I'm opening the door for June, I'm really sorry about the delays.

      The good news is that the assembled circuit boards have been shipped and I should get them tomorrow (Friday, May 2nd)...can't wait to see production quantities of the core component of the Type 40! I'll make an update at this regard next week.

    5. Parisri on

      Any news about shipping date (Type 40) ?
      Thank you.

    6. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Bert Nieuwenhuizen - Thanks, this is very kind of you.

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      Bert Nieuwenhuizen on

      Please take your time. Better a good watch later then a bad watch soon.

    8. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Rami Wassaf - Still shooting to start shipping end of April. There is a two-week delay with printed circuit board fabrication so production can theoretically only start next week. These two weeks were the margin of speed bump will directly impact the estimate above :(

    9. Rami (Random Solutions sal) on

      Any news about the expected final delivery??

    10. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ David -That's a valid concern and the app part of the road map. But apps are not future proof neither and at some extend they require more maintenance so this is why the web-oriented solution was the best to start with. That being said, even if Division Furtive was to shut down, I would have a few timepieces of my own that I would still want to set so I'm comitted to keep a working solution (either the current one or a offline version)!

    11. David Vo on

      Hi, great progress. I am not sure if this has been covered but would you consider releasing a mobile app (Android and iPhone) or desktop app that will allow owners to set the watch separate from the website? I hope you are in business for the long run, but I don't want to deal with you deciding to shut down 3 years from now and I am stuck with an expensive paperweight.

    12. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Steve Wang - Thanks for asking. So far so good but nothing worth doing an update about. I'm still gathering last parts to start production. The design phase is pretty much over (a few tweaks here and there), which is a very good news.

    13. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Zuber Bux - Currently the design is only "water resistant". I'm shooting for waterproof but I have to validate this experimentally so it's too early to comment. I bought the waterproof testing machine, I think that's a good first step toward this certification :)

      @Benjamin Berkman - Current estimate is April, see update #15 for details. Congrats on posting comment #46 :)

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      Benjamin Berkman on

      Any info on when the type 40 will ship?

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      Zuber Bux on

      Quick question. Will the Type 40 or 46 be waterproof?

    16. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Sebastian Remollo Friedemann - Wow, that was fast(ish)...Canada Post isn't usually that good :)

    17. Sebastian Remollo Friedemann on

      Keychain received!
      Thanks, and greetings from Spain.

    18. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Claude - Je porte ce nouveau fermoir-papillon depuis une semaine et j'ai absolument rien à redire (je vous ai envoyé une facture Paypal au courriel associé à votre compte Kickstarter).

      "I'll take one butterfly clasp if the quality is good" >> I've been wearing the new clasp for one week and I'm perfectly happy with it...therefore I believe the quality is very good.

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      Claude on

      Je vais prendre votre fermoir-papillon si il est de très bonne qualité. Merci

    20. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Guillermo - Only 25% of the 1000 units sold, so it is most likely there will be some Type 40 watches available after the Kickstarter campaign :)

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      Guillermo Villalobos on

      Oh that seems alright I was worried that I would have to thrust the watch to my face to get it to tell the time.
      Looking forward to the watch may not be able to continue with my pledge though so I hope we are able to buy one after the kickstarter

    22. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Guillermo - Thanks for the kind words! By "Day initials" do you mean D L M M J V S? If so, note there also English day initials on the upper part of the top cursor/display: S M T W T F S. You need to rotate your wrist because taps could easily be false triggers.

      Rotating your wrist toward you if not something that is very natural for anything else than watching time, that is why I've used this gesture to trigger time display. That being said, I've found that turning the steering wheel of my car and scratching the back of my hand with my left hand can also trigger time display :)

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      Guillermo Villalobos on

      Hey so, with the day initials on the watch will they always be in French?
      Also to tell the time do I have to lift my wrist to my face or can I tap it or is there something else?
      Watch looks amazing by the way

    24. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Claude: Autant que j'aimerais que ce soit possible, le volume/prix actuel ne permet pas ce genre d'extra.

      Q: Would it be possible to have an aluminum casing for the Type 40
      A: As must as would like this, the actual volume/cost does not allow it.

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      Claude on

      J'aimerais savoir si on pourra avoir le type 40 avec la monture comme le type 46 en alluminium moyennent un surplus? Se serais un bon retour pour les premiers investisseurs pour votre beau projet. Quand penséz-vous?

    26. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Nicolas - Thanks for your feedback. Right now plan is for a regular watch box for Type 40. I'm contemplating the idea of offering the safe box as an extra. With wristband model C you have ±3 mm of adjustment. You can always make it shorter but not longer :)

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      Nicolas Simard on

      If there is a safe box already, what would be the purpose of adding 20£ ? Nicer box ? And if the wrist C is either too short or too long, is it difficult to change later ? Thank you

    28. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Sammi - It's a very neat piano finish box with black leather interior (white Division Furtive logo on top and embossed logo on the interior leather). Can't wait to receive the first samples!

    29. Sammi Khayer on

      I initially thought the watch would be delivered in some sort of simple transport wrapping/box only. If so, I would gladly add an extra 20£ for a special casing like the safe box. What does the standard box look like? Potentially it could be awesome enough :)

    30. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Sammi - I've made inquires and it does not look good for the safe box (too expensive). Would people be willing to pay extra for this option? It would be about 20£. I've order samples of the standard box for the Type 40. I should be getting the samples with logo and everything in two weeks.

    31. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Claude - Merci! Par contre Kickstarter est une plateforme anglophone. Toute l'info sur le site web et la page Facebook de Division Furtive est disponible en français.

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      Claude on

      I'm in for wristband C. Je suis pour le brasselet C qui est beaucoup plus beau a mon avis.

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      Claude on

      COMMENTAIRE GARRETT Love the idea. Wish I could swing the type 46, way to far out of my price range. Why is the movement motor so expensive?garrett gourley Would love to see the 40 housing made out of aluminum and the backs be a plastic like the type 46. I would even pay extra to have the case the type 46 came in. (TRÈS BONNE IDÉE ET LE SITE AVEC UNE OPTION EN FRANÇAIS SERAIS AUSSI UNE BONNE IDÉE CAR J'AI QUAND MÊME ENCOURAGÉ UN PRODUIT QUÉBECOIS MERCI)

    34. Sammi Khayer on

      I prefer wristband C and would love the safety box for the type 40. A cool watch as this deserves a great package.

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      Rod on

      I'm in for wristband C. I think the clasp looks better as its larger like the watch.

    36. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Garrett - Price is driven by the very low volume of all the custom parts, especially the motors. Uniqueness has its price :)

    37. Garrett Gourley on

      Love the idea. Wish I could swing the type 46, way to far out of my price range. Why is the movement motor so expensive? Would love to see the 40 housing made out of aluminum and the backs be a plastic like the type 46. I would even pay extra to have the case the type 46 came in.

    38. Division Furtive Creator on

      Hi, maintenance is only for the Type 46. For the first year, it is recommended to send it back to Canada to see how the novel movement design age. After that we can make arrangement with you local watchmaker as only minimal maintenance is expected (oil the two cursors). The Type 46 will have a 2-year warranty. The Type 40 is maintenance free and will have a 1-year warranty.

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      mark on

      The watch requires maintenance after the first year and then every other year. As it is a watch like no other where can you have it maintained or is it that we have to send the watch back to Canada?
      What is the warranty on the watch?

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      mark on

      Safety box for #40 plus one from this side.

    41. Division Furtive Creator on

      @Tristan - Thanks! Took a bunch of Type 46 pics today! Will sort this over the week-end and post the pics on the next update. As for new pics of the Type 40, this will come later (putting a new/nicer prototype together...waiting after some parts).

    42. Tristan on

      Congrats on reaching the goal for selling sex on a wrist :D

      But now seriously... we need a lot more pictures ;^)

    43. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Nicholas - Thanks! I'll investigate to see if a bulk order on these "safe boxes" can make them affordable enough to be used for the Type 40 (right now it's only for Type 46). Stay tuned....

    44. Nicholas Natale on

      Glad to be a supporter of this amazing project (I wish I could've thought of something so amazing!). It's awesome to be a part of something so limited and special- I just hope they come in some fancy boxes similar to the ones in the video! :)

    45. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Angel - Great idea! It is certainly possible but has to be tested. It would be done with the same laser engraver that is used for the tokens. Since token production will begin before the end of the project, this will create an opportunity to test this and offer it as an option if it yields satisfactory results.

    46. Angel Hamm on

      Is it possible to customise the type 40 by writing a word below the epoxy or the lens?

    47. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ David - The Type 40, just like the Type 46 uses a 24 mm wide strap. Strap can therefore be easily swapped (not that 24 mm straps are less common than narrower models).

    48. David Vo on

      What is the lug width for the Type 40? Is there anything preventing an owner for swapping in a third-party strap? I assume it uses a standard springbar?

    49. Division Furtive Creator on

      @ Mark - At the moment the new rubber strap samples haven't reach us yet (first ones received were not a good fit, this is why there was a conscious effort not to show it in the pictures). These should be in late this week or next week. Once this is in, pictures will be broadcast and it would be great to have backers' input.

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