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I guess I don't understand how someone could expect to continue to have a future in the game industry after doing this, which clearly he does. I do still hold out hope that something will come of this at some point in the future. I don't understand how dealing with this mess is somehow easier than just producing the game in the first place?
On the one hand, i'm holding out hope that he gets this done-atleast our run to have copies of the game. But, i'm also realistic to the fact that it honestly looks like he's basically washed his hands of this whole project. Which is sad, because this looked like a really fun game.
In all seriousness, what’s the point? The only way to go after the guy is to sue, which I’m not going to do for my $15. All the grumbling in the world isn’t bringing him back.
I still hope one of us actually runs into him at a convention or show. I’d love to hear his explanation - not of what went wrong, or how it’s coming Real Soon Now, but why he couldn’t be bothered to update us for eight months when we can all see he’s still checking Kickstarter with some regularity.
Perhaps he himself will give a lecture there: "How to create 891 angry game customers!?" That's something he is quiet experienced in.
Or he attends the creative workshop "How to deal with 891 ungrateful customers that wouldn't stop pestering me for stuff that they paid for or at least some information while I go on vacation learning more about creating games that I wouldn't deliver."
I for one am still looking forward to playing this game and am content to wait however long it takes to receive it. Just wanted @creator to know that it's not all negativity amongst your backers. Cheers!
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk to you again
About a game that I Kickstarted
Fool and his money are parted
And the updates from the maker to his backers
They must endure
Only the sound of silence
The problem I have is not losing 30$, or waiting a long time. It's disrespecting the people that gave you a bunch of money, believing in your product and wanting to share in the fun with the creator of an obviously fun game. To just stop talking to those people is what makes me kind of lose my believe in something I can't really pinpoint. I feel cheated.
If he is unwell or lost someone, or something like that, then I'm more than willing to forgive this behaviour, but apparently he is presenting new stuff and logging in to his sites, as if everything was f***ing dandy. This is so bullshit. Perhaps responsibility isn't his stick. And Kickstarter apparently isn't helping him to learn that.
The last time I saw David Fooden in 2017 he was pitching his new game called 'Destruct Sequence, Disengage!'. I don't know if that is the same game he was pitching in March of 2018.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151481437 I'm sure we'll all be day 1 backers when that pops up on KS.
I have not received my order as per the pledge / timings defined.
I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012 "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
I demand a full refund for my pledge amount.
David Fooden is a fraud. As he took money, Kickstarter should seriously ban him from even backing games on Kickstarter until he works towards a fulfilling his own campaign.
I saw that too @zach ironically an event for game makers...now if only he could hurry up and just make the game we've actually paid for instead of going to events & sponsoring other KS ones...and an update would be nice!
I saw @davidfooden at ECCC demoing a new game. I didn't get a chance to talk with him, but it looks like he has spent that last few months making a new game instead of finishing the one we all backed. Not happy.
He last logged in on the 1st March so he must be well aware...and I'm guessing not locked up as someone feared, unless you're allowed social media in the nick.
David if you are reading this then please, please either do an update and give us some idea of what the hell is going on and if we are ever going to see this game, or at least have the decency to just hold your hands up, admit its not happening and refund us all.
I would far rather have had the game, as a KS superbacker I love games, I back them as much as I can, I don't want to be ripped off and have that experience taint backing other guys who do appreciate people using very hard earned and often in short supply money for their campaigns.
I can appreciate the affects of stress, depression, ill health but don't be the bad guy here and put this on others who did nothing but put there trust in you. Please for goodness sake just respond and sort this out.
So currently we're:
3 months past the last deadline we got for when the game would ship.
5 months from the last word of any kind from the creator when he showed up in comments in a huff that people were saying mean things.
7 months since the last official update where the ship date was moved to November.
10 months from the last update before that.
My predictions as of right now:
1 - I bet we're going to hit the May without any updates, officially making this a one update per year project. We might even make it to a year without updates, but I do still kind of expect he'll show back up eventually.
2 - We're not getting a game in 2018. Maybe 2019. If I had to guess, I'd say 1st quarter 2019. That's based on virtually noting, except the assumption that the vast majority of work on the project hasn't been done. Just throwing it out to see if anyone wants to make an over/under bet.
Kickstarter won’t do anything because the economic contract is between us backers and the creator. I’ve asked them what the consequences will be for the creator, since he broke one of Kickstarters rules, but have yet not gotten an answer for that specific question.
@davidfooden Hey there! Any chance for us, the 891 backers who believed in your game, and in your capability to produce it, to get the rewards for the $18.000 we gave you? You've been away from FB since sept 29.
This project was funded one year ago. The last update given to backers was over six months ago. It would be great to receive any sort of information regarding the status of this project.
So Kickstarter has officially told people to try and contact David, yet he is not responding to requests through Kickstarter. Does that mean we're supposed to contact him using information from outside of Kickstarter? If so, is this the information we're supposed to use?
I reached out to David on a couple of Kickstarter Facebook groups and also received no response. I also tried to email Kickstarter to see if they were going to take any action and received no response at all.
I won't hold back to call David Fooden a Conman. Just like that he earns $18,002 :) Man, it is so easy to earn money on Kickstarter.
Just whip out a promising campaign with pictures and plan to do nothing about it. Maybe to buy time: give some excuses that the project will be delayed etc etc.
Lucia, I honestly think he's just given up on this for the time being. Kind of like losing interest, so he's just parked it for the time being. He doesn't see us or have to hear us, so it doesn't enter his realm of reality. When he has the time or feels like getting back to this/dealing with us, then he will. It's very unprofessional.
What I find highly irritating is he logs in most days so why the continued radio silence ignoring backers, surely you want people to support the game not be left feeling they've been ripped off?
Any updates? I think this maybe my is my only failed kickstarter... If anyone is looking for a good northern hair styling game... try to find Dawson City Barbers. I self published it years ago. I think it might still be available on Game Crafter.
Use this space to cheer the creator along, and talk to your fellow backers.
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Show older commentsMatt Larson 3 days ago
He isn’t dealing with it. He’s ignoring it. That makes it easier.
Rhonda A.
Superbacker
3 days ago
I guess I don't understand how someone could expect to continue to have a future in the game industry after doing this, which clearly he does. I do still hold out hope that something will come of this at some point in the future. I don't understand how dealing with this mess is somehow easier than just producing the game in the first place?
mike 4 days ago
On the one hand, i'm holding out hope that he gets this done-atleast our run to have copies of the game. But, i'm also realistic to the fact that it honestly looks like he's basically washed his hands of this whole project. Which is sad, because this looked like a really fun game.
Matt Larson 4 days ago
In all seriousness, what’s the point? The only way to go after the guy is to sue, which I’m not going to do for my $15. All the grumbling in the world isn’t bringing him back.
I still hope one of us actually runs into him at a convention or show. I’d love to hear his explanation - not of what went wrong, or how it’s coming Real Soon Now, but why he couldn’t be bothered to update us for eight months when we can all see he’s still checking Kickstarter with some regularity.
Monsterrod Von Hugenstien 5 days ago
That's the sound of defeat. Kickstarter doesn't care if backers get ripped off and clearly David has abandoned the project. It's a bummer.
Jeffrey Schotanus 6 days ago
It's all so quiet around here....
Diane Godfrey on April 9
Yassss @Johannes... you are totally my spirit animal.
Steve Beeman on April 9
@Johannes +1
Johannes on April 9
Perhaps he himself will give a lecture there: "How to create 891 angry game customers!?" That's something he is quiet experienced in.
Or he attends the creative workshop "How to deal with 891 ungrateful customers that wouldn't stop pestering me for stuff that they paid for or at least some information while I go on vacation learning more about creating games that I wouldn't deliver."
Tiralie on April 5
To backers*
Tiralie on April 5
Because David apparently needs a retreat from not getting his games to creators?
Jordan on April 4
While we all wait for an update/response/sign of life, David, in the meantime, backed another Kickstarter to attend a board game designer's retreat.
Tactile Game on April 4
Too long since any communication. I want a refund. This is bordering on theft.
Daniel Rojas Arboleda on April 2
David Fooled us all!
Dylan Reinhart
Superbacker
on March 29
I for one am still looking forward to playing this game and am content to wait however long it takes to receive it. Just wanted @creator to know that it's not all negativity amongst your backers. Cheers!
Jeph Stahl on March 28
I put in a request to have the game taken out of the BGG database, as it is not a published game, and it is doesn't seem to ever be published.
Matt Larson on March 28
Steven Paradise, you are my new lyrical hero.
Steven Paradise
Superbacker
on March 27
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk to you again
About a game that I Kickstarted
Fool and his money are parted
And the updates from the maker to his backers
They must endure
Only the sound of silence
Matt Larson on March 24
I hope he spent my money on something fun. I’m clearly never going to see a copy of this game.
I’ll check back in another month to find out nothing has changed.
Johannes on March 23
So I cooled off now. It's just a game. Just please get yourself to talk to your backers!
Johannes on March 23
The problem I have is not losing 30$, or waiting a long time. It's disrespecting the people that gave you a bunch of money, believing in your product and wanting to share in the fun with the creator of an obviously fun game. To just stop talking to those people is what makes me kind of lose my believe in something I can't really pinpoint. I feel cheated.
If he is unwell or lost someone, or something like that, then I'm more than willing to forgive this behaviour, but apparently he is presenting new stuff and logging in to his sites, as if everything was f***ing dandy. This is so bullshit. Perhaps responsibility isn't his stick. And Kickstarter apparently isn't helping him to learn that.
Axel Karlsson on March 23
@Alex
Haha, yes. One game is cheap. Total amount that David Fooden has (as it seems) stolen is quite a lot.
Anyway. Got a standard answer from Kickstarter. Seems their rules are pretty useless.
JKP
Superbacker
on March 23
The last time I saw David Fooden in 2017 he was pitching his new game called 'Destruct Sequence, Disengage!'. I don't know if that is the same game he was pitching in March of 2018.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/151481437
I'm sure we'll all be day 1 backers when that pops up on KS.
Alex von der Linden
Superbacker
on March 22
You want to waste time and money suing someone over a thirty dollar game?
You know lawyers cost money, right?
Axel Karlsson on March 20
I e-mailed Kickstarter again. Last time they answered, but not the question about consequences for David Fooden for breaking the creator rules.
If I had any knowledge of how I’d say we sue David Fooden.
Jeffrey Schotanus on March 19
That has been tried Johannes. The problem is that he doesn't respond to anyone, any claims.
Johannes on March 19
I have not received my order as per the pledge / timings defined.
I invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
"Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
I demand a full refund for my pledge amount.
Doctor Zaius
Superbacker
on March 15
For fracks sake, it's just a deck of cards and it's DONE because I have a copy of the prototype!
Gabriel Chia on March 15
David Fooden is a fraud. As he took money, Kickstarter should seriously ban him from even backing games on Kickstarter until he works towards a fulfilling his own campaign.
Lucia Hedderley
Superbacker
on March 15
I saw that too @zach ironically an event for game makers...now if only he could hurry up and just make the game we've actually paid for instead of going to events & sponsoring other KS ones...and an update would be nice!
Zach Dominguez on March 15
Just got an email letting me know that David just backed a new project, so I guess that's where our money went.
Christopher Fyhr on March 15
I saw @davidfooden at ECCC demoing a new game. I didn't get a chance to talk with him, but it looks like he has spent that last few months making a new game instead of finishing the one we all backed. Not happy.
Lucia Hedderley
Superbacker
on March 6
He last logged in on the 1st March so he must be well aware...and I'm guessing not locked up as someone feared, unless you're allowed social media in the nick.
David if you are reading this then please, please either do an update and give us some idea of what the hell is going on and if we are ever going to see this game, or at least have the decency to just hold your hands up, admit its not happening and refund us all.
I would far rather have had the game, as a KS superbacker I love games, I back them as much as I can, I don't want to be ripped off and have that experience taint backing other guys who do appreciate people using very hard earned and often in short supply money for their campaigns.
I can appreciate the affects of stress, depression, ill health but don't be the bad guy here and put this on others who did nothing but put there trust in you. Please for goodness sake just respond and sort this out.
Michael
Superbacker
on March 5
So currently we're:
3 months past the last deadline we got for when the game would ship.
5 months from the last word of any kind from the creator when he showed up in comments in a huff that people were saying mean things.
7 months since the last official update where the ship date was moved to November.
10 months from the last update before that.
My predictions as of right now:
1 - I bet we're going to hit the May without any updates, officially making this a one update per year project. We might even make it to a year without updates, but I do still kind of expect he'll show back up eventually.
2 - We're not getting a game in 2018. Maybe 2019. If I had to guess, I'd say 1st quarter 2019. That's based on virtually noting, except the assumption that the vast majority of work on the project hasn't been done. Just throwing it out to see if anyone wants to make an over/under bet.
Axel Karlsson on March 1
Kickstarter won’t do anything because the economic contract is between us backers and the creator. I’ve asked them what the consequences will be for the creator, since he broke one of Kickstarters rules, but have yet not gotten an answer for that specific question.
Jeffrey Schotanus on February 28
He took the money and ran. Only thing i don't get is why kickstarter isn't doing anything....
Daniel Rojas Arboleda on February 27
@davidfooden Hey there! Any chance for us, the 891 backers who believed in your game, and in your capability to produce it, to get the rewards for the $18.000 we gave you? You've been away from FB since sept 29.
Tiralie on February 26
@tedmantuano Did you have a chance to go?
R. Chris Reeder
Superbacker
on February 25
This project was funded one year ago. The last update given to backers was over six months ago. It would be great to receive any sort of information regarding the status of this project.
Cris Jesse on February 22
So Kickstarter has officially told people to try and contact David, yet he is not responding to requests through Kickstarter. Does that mean we're supposed to contact him using information from outside of Kickstarter? If so, is this the information we're supposed to use?
https://www.beenverified.com/people/david-joseph-fooden-106081942/
https://www.mylife.com/david-fooden/david_fooden
A couple of the links I found stated that he has some arrest records, I hope that the lack of communication isn't due to him being in jail currently.
Cris Jesse on February 22
anyone else notice the additional funds he got in backerkit (beyond the 18k)? $7,744.00 from 886 backers
Zach Dominguez on February 22
I reached out to Kickstarter a few months ago and they didn't really do anything about it, other than to say to try to contact David again.
Jordan on February 21
I reached out to David on a couple of Kickstarter Facebook groups and also received no response. I also tried to email Kickstarter to see if they were going to take any action and received no response at all.
Zachary Stoltenberg
Superbacker
on February 19
https://www.facebook.com/davidfooden
If any backers are looking for another venue to contact David since he appears to be ignoring communication on KS.
Gabriel Chia on February 18
I won't hold back to call David Fooden a Conman. Just like that he earns $18,002 :) Man, it is so easy to earn money on Kickstarter.
Just whip out a promising campaign with pictures and plan to do nothing about it. Maybe to buy time: give some excuses that the project will be delayed etc etc.
mike on February 17
Lucia, I honestly think he's just given up on this for the time being. Kind of like losing interest, so he's just parked it for the time being. He doesn't see us or have to hear us, so it doesn't enter his realm of reality. When he has the time or feels like getting back to this/dealing with us, then he will. It's very unprofessional.
Lucia Hedderley
Superbacker
on February 16
What I find highly irritating is he logs in most days so why the continued radio silence ignoring backers, surely you want people to support the game not be left feeling they've been ripped off?
Diane Godfrey on February 10
Thank You @TedMantuano!
Ted Mantuano on February 7
Dave is supposed to make an appearance at Dreamation (Feb 22-25, Morristown NJ)
If he is there, I’m going to have words with him and get back to everybody
Jeph Stahl on February 2
Any updates? I think this maybe my is my only failed kickstarter... If anyone is looking for a good northern hair styling game... try to find Dawson City Barbers. I self published it years ago. I think it might still be available on Game Crafter.