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Torn from the pages of the science-fiction horror RPG "SLA Industries", Cannibal Sector 1 comes to life in this tabletop skirmish game.
Torn from the pages of the science-fiction horror RPG "SLA Industries", Cannibal Sector 1 comes to life in this tabletop skirmish game.
Torn from the pages of the science-fiction horror RPG "SLA Industries", Cannibal Sector 1 comes to life in this tabletop skirmish game.
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    1. Christopher Young
      Superbacker
      7 days ago

      It’s a whole world of progress

    2. Cutter Goode on

      Happy to see some Progress.

    3. nova fix on

      I discovered that I own 4 copied of the P&P Rule book so am going to chuck 2 of the knackered copies due to clearing away old stuff. Anyone in the Stockholm area wants them then let me know. Otherwise they get skipped on 2018-07-25.

    4. Varian on

      Yea, Mark Wallace is spamming facebook atm with that Art. Thanks for the info.

    5. Art Steventon on

      @varian - one name is Mark Wallace - he’s just started a new KS campaign under the ‘Kore’ brand for 32mm vehicles.. now, I mention this as he’s the guy who says he owns the stuff on this Kickstarter...

    6. Stevan Allen on

      @word forge games : thank you 🙏 appreciate that there must be lots of hard work going on behind the scenes

    7. Varian on

      Who were the staff at Daruma, just asking so I can avoid any projects they might be involved in in the future . . . .

    8. Word Forge Games on

      KS update will be here first. It’s looking like Nightfall will be updating early next week. We have supplied a stock take to them!

    9. Stevan Allen on

      Still no news? I don’t use Facebook, has there been any updates on there?

    10. Iain Wilson on

      Hi. I saw that one - I assumed there had been an update since that however.

    11. Word Forge Games on

      Hi Iain. Guess u missed my comment on the most recent update, so I’ll share here:
      Word Forge Limited acquired the ‘SLA CS1 stock’, which we were informed was the entirety of the available ‘SLA CS1 Stock’, at the beginning of June 2018. This was made up of stock produced and sold by Word Forge to Daruma but recovered under a retention of title for non-payment along with stock which was purchased by Word Forge from Daruma in full agreement between the Daruma and Word Forge Limited representatives. WFG obtained both inventories with the intention of fulfilling this Kickstarter and further developing the SLA franchise with its creators.

      Due to more recent developments, these inventories are currently quarantined within Word Forge Limited’s warehouse until there is clarity on the legal ownership of this stock. Once this is clarified, Word Forge Limited will either continue with its plans or follow the directions of Daruma’s representatives.

    12. Iain Wilson on

      So...

      "WFG will be completing a stock take during the next 2 weeks..."

      It's been over 2 weeks. Can we have some clarity around the situation? I don't expect a resolution, but something other than stoney silence would be useful.

    13. Steven Parker on

      So is this a lost cause and another failed KS?

    14. PanzerKaput on

      To be honest that is what I thought

    15. Word Forge Games on

      Panzer: Nightfall (Dave and Jared) have made the statement on the most recent update. No one legally can say anything else (even though we really want too)! When Nightfall can it will.

    16. PanzerKaput on

      Well we know Daruma's position on this and Word Forge Games but what has Jared and Dave got to say as they the ones who have created it? Let me see, besides the initial statement nothing.

    17. Stephen Whitehead
      Superbacker
      on

      It's possible that they aren't actually allowed to talk about it - the Facebook post by Daruma mentioned something along those lines, due to rules around administration proceedings etc.

    18. Daniel West on

      Still, even a few updates just saying that would be better than nothing.

    19. PanzerKaput on

      I think they are legally finding where they stand and taking the advice of their solicitors. This is not going to be a short progress as the IP is own by one one and the rules and figures by another party and the question is who actually owns what.

    20. Christopher Young
      Superbacker
      on

      So do we now just sit in silence with no updates isn’t someone still responsible to us as investors and through KS rules to update us even if the update is painful 😖

    21. PanzerKaput on

      @Guy Ridgway yes I did and yes I did and no I didnt get a refund, fun isnt it?

    22. Guy Ridgway on

      @ PanzerKaput you spotted this happening a long time ago and asked for refund and not even you got one

    23. Daniel West on

      @Cutter - yep, noticed the same thing. Thought nothing of it when I browsed through (when it was still online) other than that they seemed to be going for a new house style. Didn't even pick up on the fact it was 'Daruma Style' before (which probably came from Nightfall anyway).

    24. Monte Young on

      fml another Robotech tactics... sigh..

    25. Cutter Goode on

      @Panzer - Specifically the store page of that site, as I said, completely different presentation, 2018 copyright, not 2015, just an internal error now. Presumably Jared has moved development off the live site, probably didn't think anyone would notice it.

    26. PanzerKaput on

      Do you mean this site? https://nightfall.co as it has been there for ages

    27. Cutter Goode on

      It's been a week, anything to report, whoever is in control of the KS project?

    28. Cutter Goode on

      @ Stephen - No, when I found it it appeared to be a site on the way up, not down. It used some of the 'new' SLA.Ind logos first encountered on Daruma's site and had a 2018 copyright notice. The contact information also had Burnbrae Cottage as the address so presumably Jared was behind it or involved in it in some fashion. I imagine it's the website Nightfall are going to reappear at eventually.

      Didn't bother screen grabbing it because I had no expectation that it was going to go away.

      Did notice the

    29. Stephen Whitehead
      Superbacker
      on

      @Cutter I'm getting a 500 error there - is that what you're referring to?

    30. lone dirty dog on

      Reading that back sounded like I was referring to word forge which I wasn't, I meant any KS connected to nightfall games it ain't worth the risk.

    31. lone dirty dog on

      Safe bet to say this has gone to the dogs, looks like the miniatures I was after ain’t going to see the light of day anytime soon now as this is caught up in legal action on ownership. I have to say word forge has always been pretty good from my dealings on route 666 but now I won’t be touching any KS with these parties involved just for fear of loosing the investment.

    32. Christopher Young
      Superbacker
      on

      Well that’s pissed out any flame of hope for a quick resolution.

      New meaning for SLA
      SLA - Stop Look Avoid

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      tonijor
      Superbacker
      on

      Good Morning.

      Bad, bad news, the truth.
      One question, besides the money that I assume I have lost in the Kickstarter, I made a preporder in the store:

      Cannibals Faction Pre Order SPECIAL

      Is this also money lost?

      If so, I have stolen more than 200 pounds (after the 400 pounds that Prodos stole from me, they move to second place).

    34. Dad-R-Cubed-1 on

      I’d just like to know I’m going to get the game and minis I paid for. I can not justify spending more hobby money or time on SLA product unless I receive what I paid for in this and a pre-order. I have spent considerable money on the RPG books, t-shirts, dice, miniatures etc. I was super happy with all that. But I will not pay twice for something just to have it. I hope that Nightfall and WFG can come up with a solution and will make good with the backers. To do so will be the only way to ensure that the SLA brand isn’t left sullied. There are many people on this KS whom are avid and long term SLA fans who have stuck with it when it’s been near demise. Make it good, and make it good quickly please.

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      Gobot on

      @ Word Forge No worries, I just get shivers whenever Prodos' name pops up in any relation to anything I'm backing on KS, I know so many people that got screwed hard on their AvP kickstarter.

      Really hoping a way to get the CS1 mini's and books out to backers can be found and hopefully then carry the range forward and expand it, the background material is so rich that with a proper retail and organised play strategy it could be huge - been waiting for so many years for a proper mini's range to use with the pen & paper RPG anyway, as nobody seems to make a model anything like a carrion with a chain scythe!

    36. Word Forge Games on

      Hi all, Gobot, if you want clarity from me regarding my time at Prodos, let me know! But I think Art covered it. Mark

    37. Word Forge Games on

      Statement from Word Forge Games regarding Daruma stock. (Also posted on the most recent update).

      Word Forge Limited acquired the ‘SLA CS1 stock’, which we were informed was the entirety of the available ‘SLA CS1 Stock’, at the beginning of June 2018. This was made up of stock produced and sold by Word Forge to Daruma but recovered under a retention of title for non-payment along with stock which was purchased by Word Forge from Daruma in full agreement between the Daruma and Word Forge Limited representatives. WFG obtained both inventories with the intention of fulfilling this Kickstarter and further developing the SLA franchise with its creators.

      Due to more recent developments, these inventories are currently quarantined within Word Forge Limited’s warehouse until there is clarity on the legal ownership of this stock. Once this is clarified, Word Forge Limited will either continue with its plans or follow the directions of Daruma’s representatives.

    38. Art Steventon on

      @Gobot - totally understand - I got my fingers burned pretty badly by Prodos so always do my homework on the people ;-)

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      Gobot on

      I think it was the same situation as when Spartan Games went under - the liquidators sold off all the IP and moulds etc to Wayland games I think? Kickstarter backers got nothing, but at least the IP survived to fight another day.

      I'm just dissapointed, not at loosing £105 so much, but just that this is my first failed kickstarter and I really love SLA :(

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      Gobot on

      @Art Fair enough - maybe just co-incidence then. Just that anything touched by Prodos after that fiasco has tainted them to a large part of the gaming/kickstrater community :(

      I do wonder where our money went though. I can't imagine the Daruma liquidators would put much/any value on any miniature moulds and leftover bags/t-shirts - and I presume they are all worthless to most people anyway as they can't be used without a license from Nightfall anyway?

    41. lone dirty dog on

      Yes sorry I got that the wrong way round my bad but as Gobot has mentioned correctly it doesn't add up how all this is connecting up, especially after hearing what Daruma had stated on FB concerning the liquidators and the remaing stock. It all seems really underhand, who the hell can you trust looking at what is unfolding.

    42. Art Steventon on

      @GOBOT - Mark Rapson left Prodos long before that - the person wholly responsibly for that fiasco is Jarek. Mark was as much a victim of Jarek's shenanigans as the backers were.
      Word Forge's involvement here (as I see it) is nothing more than to try and retrieve SOMETHING from the wreckage for Backers - they're the good guys here. As for the ex-directors of Daruma / NFG? To those I cannot comment as I have no idea who they are..

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      Gobot on

      So the directors of Nightfall games, and creators of SLA (Dave and Jared) have suddenly resigned as directors of Daruma (setup to produce CS1), done a midnight flit of all the CS1 assets to Word Forge, and left all the (presumed) debt and legal liability for delivering CS1 with the now defunct Daruma immeadiately before liquidators are due to be called in?

      I also see from the Companies house website that Nightfall has a new director - Mark Raspon, who also happens to be a Director of Word Forge Games, and who WAS also a director of Prodos games... you know, the Prodos Games who did the much talked about AvP Kickstarter, and who are said to have moved all their assets out to another company (Archon) while leaving all the debt and liability behind.

      I think I can assume my £105 is gone. I just hope this doesnt end up wrecking the entire SLA IP.

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      Michael Gallagher on

      @lone dirty dog
      Jared and Dave have been Nightfall guys since the beginning.

    45. lone dirty dog on

      I honestly hope the lot get prosecuted for fraud at this stage, they go on about be honest and upfront shame you didn’t do this months ago when we all started to realise it was in trouble and even suggested so. No it was dragged out in house behind the backs of the backers, it’s not a shop we are investors not customers so we have a right to be kept in the know of what is happening good or bad. I am considering looking into this as a legal matter as things are not adding up, especially concerning the previous directors jumping ship from Daruma to set up shop with Nightfall (if this is true).

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      Michael Gallagher on

      Presumably because the guy was worried about legal consequences from bring up the liquidators and stuff before they were officially called in. He tried editing it to something along the lines of "Daruma will not be commenting unless under legal guidance", but you could still see the earlier one under Edit History, so he deleted it entirely.

    47. Iain Wilson on

      And the post on the Daruma FB page has gone...

    48. Stephen Whitehead
      Superbacker
      on

      @drew Where do you get that impression? From what he's said he did his best to try and avoid this happening - the problem is that when liquidation occurs there are procedures to be followed regarding what happens to the stock.

    49. Drew
      Superbacker
      on

      Looks like the guy looking to liquidate was never going to send our goods, that we paid for but was instead looking to cover his own back by selling them to a 3rd party. Not really what I wanted to hear. Hopefully nightfall will come through with some of the owed stuff.

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