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Because you don't use full law
This small device has a backup from indiegogo too and a lot of money is in there. I don't know why officials are not going against him..
@Mike, they should give us atkeast chupa cut, as they told it was already done
I still want my chupa cut which is allegedly complete, and I paid shipping in backerkit, so I should be all set, right?
What a scammer
Said of that, I will also contribute for the charges to pay for the expenses.
I will provide a reward to the one who initiates the legal proceedings and it should come in the news channels. I'm ready to reward 2000 USD for this. Others who want to contribute can also contribute for the person who is taking this effort. I will provide my complete support. Nobody is willing to initiate, I wish I could, but I'm from a different location. There should be a lot of people from the same location where this can be reported.
They won't do anything, because this was a pre-planned fraud even on other indiegogo campaign. David never worried about anything, as they are already going to cheat.
(Note on math: 75k/95k isn't 25k, I know: All projects are expected to assume a £20% margin when asking for investment)
£95,322 pledged, when the initial goal was £25,000 meant a margin for error of £75,322!! That should have been more than enough leeway for the creators to identify imminent problems. They ought to have pulled the plug, or at least asked us if we wanted a refund at the point when they passed £30k, not waited until they had spent most of OUR money on a pipe dream.
Where is your BUSINESS INSURANCE?? Normally in these cases, a judge will order repayment in full to all defrauded investors.
I want a full refund 100%
Reported on action fraud.
Someone who can get this on bbc??
Shutting down the facebook campaign to bring this cheating before justice. We did not get enough emails messaged to us in facebook to launch the campaign.
Reported to action fraud. Notwithstanding that, any UK backer can file a direct report with the police please? That will help to expedite the matter.
Daniel removed his photo from KS.
Also reported to action fraud.
what about a "bounty hunter" or debt collecting agency ?
@Lorelle Brown Nobody googled meaning of renegade..a good lesson more.
never got an answer - shame on you. bad project creator. no help from kickstarter, only collect fees.
Oxford Dictionary definition of "Renegade"
"A person who deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles"
"an agent who later turns out to be a renegade"
The Creator of Renegade - Daniel Edwards - has lived up to the name and done a runner!!
This needs investigation. Anybody know the best way?. Does any of the media tagged in the intro have the resources and skills to in cover the truth?
They said chupa cut was ready. That is also fake. Atleast send that then..
@Alick Reid oh yes! Kickstarter support and platform is really bad.
here is my conversation with them:
I would like to get more information about him to start a legal action.
support - Hi there,
Kickstarter takes the privacy of our users very seriously, so we don't provide a creator's information directly to backers.
We hope that backers will consider that option only in cases where they believe that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill. If you haven’t yet, you can message a project creator directly. To do this, go to the project page and click on the "Contact me" link under the creator's name in the bio section.
If you believe legal action is appropriate here, please talk to an attorney about how to proceed.
They don't care at all - they did get their cut - it's all that matters.
Projects like this are why Kickstarter will die. I'm done with this platform.
Reported him too, to the uk fraud service
Money down the drain after many months of waiting, will never use Kickstarter again or similar platform, this is the 4th project like this 😤 lots of wasted money
Yeah, listen mate.. this whole 20% refund thing isn’t gonna work.
Full refunds all around sir.
Kickstarter is just like FB, hiding behind it's "platform", earning a lot of money given to them for free from us, and nobody bothers to read the terms and conditions out of laziness. Everyone should do their personal risk calculation, "am I prepared to loose the money I spend here" since these are all high risk projects. The sad thing is that we, as users of this platform, or any other service or product for that matter, can easily put it out of the market just by stopping to use it or not buying it. As investors/consumers we don't realize the power we've got. But once again the laziness, comfort and lack of unity in an individualistic world, leaves us without any tangible results.
I'm really disappointed.
Apart from the fact I could have bought a similar 3D pen almost 2 damn years ago, I was very interested in this eco-friendly project, from the concept of it, and I followed the updates with so much curiosity.
So I've been (not only me, of course) waiting for so long and this is really the end of Renegade? Are you really dropping the project? So I won't be happy with my 20% refund, it's not only about money, it's about the patience and trust we put on this, on you.
reported also on actionfraud.police.uk
Not a bad scam just from kickstarter walking away with about 60,000 pounds, these were being sold on another site as well..........
So I get $35.00 back for $165.00 investment? I want your prototype. I bought this for my classroom!
i want a full refund, not only 20% !!!
Thanks for letting us know, and keeping us informed. Such a shame for this outcome. I look forward to your next venture.
I encourage people to report this to actionfraud.police.uk .
Utter criminals. Full refund please. We should demand interest for how long he's had our money.
Now he will put a new update saying, 20% leaving Kickstarter charges. Because, he doesn't have to fear..
It says 20% refund over the next 18 months. So, people think he is bankrupt. He is already leading a luxury life.. 20% of 70 gbp is 14 gbp.
Someone pledged 900 gbp and its gone..
So the latest email says they'll be giving us all a 20% partial refund. I don't want a partial refund for your failings. I demand a full refund of my hard earned money I entrusted to you! Enough of the BS!give us back our full balance. Now!
This is common in Kickstarter now. Sonic soak is another project. Muzo is another one. All fake products. Many just show fake models. Start reporting this fraud. His 1 gbp capital company says it all..
David has just forged documents to make Kickstarter believe the progress. Not even a single video is posted.
Thats it.. the latest update says the truth.. this is such a simple project. If we say we will give then 50 usd more, still he will not be able to deliver. Already quality pens are available for $50. He delayed the project to bring things to this situation, so that everybody thinks he tried a lot..
So, they took the money and ran. Kickstarter really needs to do something about the companies that take the money and run. It is one thing to have difficulties, it is quite another to just decide not to make and ship the product.