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Update please, other than the folks at notahotherdime (which has been helpful, thanks).
@ Christina http://notanotherdime.blogspot.com/
Has anyone else who put money into the prop auction, received their items?
I have a feeling I know the answer, I just wanted to ask.
This lack of any response from the parties involved in this production to fellow backers understandably negative comments is most frustrating indeed. What I did see of the produced footage, I really enjoyed. It was certainly in tune with Traveller and I would have liked to have seen the finished product. While I actually backed to receive a DVD or Bluray it seems apparent that this is a long wait for a train that's not coming.
What really annoys me about this project are the ramifications for future Traveller film projects.
The actual creator of Traveller has given his blessing for this production and wanted to see the production as much as we all did. What must his thoughts on allowing the Traveller Science Fiction RPG intellectual property to be used again in a budget style production like this be now?
What's annoying me the most is that this team has taken one of the worlds most loved Science Fiction games which would have thousands of stories to tell and thrown a real spanner in the works so to speak for any possible future productions.
This is just deeply sad to me as I've always had a blast with any Traveller fans I've had the fortune to play Traveller with and I'm sure many of them would have loved to contribute and make something like this possible.
As for this production at least we got some trailers. As for the promised rewards etc, guys as I stated before it's simply going to be a long wait for a train that's not coming.
We were told by you that you promised your Kickstarter backers of this project that you would have a finished product of the film for backers to view by August 1st, 2017. Over the past year, I have checked in to this page several times to inquire about the progress being made on this film, and have failed to receive any response from you from either the Message Boards or from Private Messages sent directly to you through Kickstarter.
Over the past year, there have been some very poorly written discouraging remarks left to you on this Message Board. However, I have been one of the very few voices here that was telling the Kickstarter backers to give you the time to finish the film. Especially when you delivered us a promise that the film would be delivered to backers by GenCon 2017 back in August.
While attending GenCon this year, I regularly checked the Kickstarter page and my e-mail account for updates. I asked around the convention if you were present, or if there had been any rumors regarding the release of the film among several of those present.
Unfortunately, after all this time and your promise to us, all I have received is the continuing silence from you, marking your promise as being hollow as your detractors have been telling us they have been for all this time.
I won't berate you like several of those present, using foul language or attacking your character. I suppose on a certain level, I look to see the best in everyone I deal with and hoped that you could "turn the ship around" over the past year. It was just upsetting that with all my small efforts via personal messages and posts here to encourage you to complete the film and to defend you from those that attacked you, that you still failed to even provide us with the simplest update to at least tell us where you were on the production.
You have the money that we gave you, and I have no illusions about the fact that we'll ever get that back from you. Fortunately, I only backed the film for a Digital Download of the film, but I know that there are several here that gave you hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars to help back this project. I had hoped to at least some point to get the Digital Download of the film, but I've given up on that dream, as well.
In the end, Ken, you are the one that has lost the most. A man's honor is like a glass sculpture, and when it is broken, you can never really put it back together. I can honestly say that I doubt you'll ever be successful in raising funds on Kickstarter for another project in the future, and that any Crowd Funding Project you are attached to will likely fail to raise funds (even if you are not the Primary Project Manager).
I have maintained a spreadsheet on my computer, tracking all of the Kickstarters I have backed. Today, sir, I am putting your Kickstarter down on a tab listed as "Stuck In Development Limbo". And to be frank, I have no reason to believe it will ever leave that tab.
For what its worth, I hope you manage to get a grip on your personal and professional lives, and "turn the boat around". But, based on this experience, I can say I and several of those here do not wish to have any further part in either of those lives in the future.
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Did I say ALMOST 3 years ago? OVER 3 years ago! Spinward Traveller was funded July 2014 and the first expected delivery date was December 2014. Now, no one expects people to make their first estimate of date but we are almost 3 years overdue.
Ken is a liar and a fraud.
No update in over a year! Money was collected almost 3 years ago!
Anybody who is still a Ken Whitman faithful should go soak their heads. Ken has nearly HALF A MILLION DOLLARS in collected moneys on various projects in and out of gaming with nothing to show for it.
Time for a class-action lawsuit against him, and even legal measures to keep him off the streets and preventing him from collecting money from anyone ever again.
I'm beginning to suspect that Ken Whitman has lied about this project.
It's almost as if he had no intention of delivering a completed product, and instead, took off with equipment bought with these monies to use personally.
Maybe we get at least get videos of his travels????
@ Lee - He's stated dates multiple times and missed every one. What good would another do?
In all comments, I have attempted to give the benefit of the doubt. The man seriously needs to take 5 seconds of his time and simply state "I'll have it to you on XYZ date" or "tough cookies. You'll never get it". Either way, we could all move on...
well, i guess we all had already figured out we've been had... at this point I don't give a damn about the money i'm out. i just want to make sure this douCHEbag never does this to anyone else again. Any one else feel this way by now?
So where is our Traveller video?
So where is out Traveller video?
August has come and gone...
Gencon came and went without so much as a peep from Ken. Anyone shocked?
Yoo, hoo! Kenny Boy! You haven't made any update here in 11 months. You fudged on when you kicked the release date, said maybe August 1, said maybe had something full and downloadable by GEN CON (which ends August 20).
Do you have no excerpts, no trailers to show for a year of work?
Time to sue, or maybe even time to jail you.
Any news, such as it is, can be found at http://notanotherdime.blogspot.com
Ken Whitman has not uttered a peep since last September. He attempted to blame a mental syndrome and claimed he was undergoing medical testing, but there IS no medical test for it. It can only be diagnosed in an autopsy. That's a direct lie from Ken.
He collected about $150,000 and up in Kickstarters from the gamers, and another "quarter of a million" by making promises to members of the Atlanta acting community that were not fulfilled.
I wish Kickstarter had the ability to do more about such problem children. Proper care can bring them back into the fold and heal this odious sociopathy.
From July 17, 2016:
"Spinward Traveller New Release Date
"We have set a new release date for August 1, 2017. Of course we hope to get your project to you way before that date, but would rater surprise you then disappoint you again.
"Sorry it has taken so long, there have been many sit backs in my life, and there are a few backers that actually follow and harass me online, effecting my ability to make a living and produce this product. Although their actions are highly illegal it it very difficult to enforce laws across state lines without spending money, AND I would prefer to spend said money on this project instead. Some of these harassment include copywrite infringement, libel, slander, contacting employers, contacting loved ones, and even contact my children.
"So please, if you have a problem with me, contact me at email@example.com, OR at least be civilized and use our current court system if you believe I have wronged you in anyway. There are much better ways of handing a situation then cyberstalking, and harassing my loved ones.
"I have updated the IMDB page tonight, however it will take a few days to fix itself. I will update you when I have downloads for you guys.
"My sincerest apology for letting you down on the timeline, BUT I am going to finish this project. I have NOT given up and you will see this wonderful project.
"If you would like to ask questions about the project below, please feel free to post them. I will most likely only answer questions I feel help clarify information about this project.
"Here are some basic ones that will clear up some...
"Q. Did you misappropriate the money.
"Q. Did all the actors and crew get paid.
"A. It took a bit of time, but yes.
"Q. Did you shoot the full episode.
"Q. Why has it taken so long.
"A. I tried to produce the product without the knowledge of the true cost of production. Many companies producing 44 mins, of content kickstarter for $250k+. I have been spending my own time and money making-up for the under capitalization.
"Q. Did you pay yourself out of Kickstarter Money.
"A. Just like any actor or crew, I paid myself for my time producing, directing & editing. Currently to date my average hourly rate come to a little over $3.17 an hour.
"Q. Have you been involved an any other Fundraiser sense your trouble her on Kickstarter.
"A. No, I decided to work on these projects and will never create another fundraise for any project until my current ones are completed.
"Q. Do you currently produce, direct or act in movies.
"A. Yes. That is how I make my living.
"Q. Have you contemplated suicide because of your finacial situation and personal problems.
"A. Yes. If you have ever been cyberstalked, or have dozens of web sites dedicated to your failure, it does get a bit depressing and over whelming. If it we not for the support of a few friends, and the fact I have two wonderful children, I probably would have taken the cowards way out. But they believe in me, so I guess i have no choice but to get this project finished and done with.
"Q. How is your relationship with Marc Miller.
"A. Strained but okay. He believes in this project and gives me word of encouragement to finish it up.
"Q. Will we actually see a finished project.
Hmmm. August 9, 2017.
I mean, I don't think I actually expected to see anything. But I thought everyone might appreciate the trip down memory lane.
May Day! May Day!
Where is my DVD?
@Ken Whitman - We're 22 days away from the first day of GenCon, and we haven't had an update regarding this film project in several months. You stated that this film would be ready for delivery in some shape or form by GenCon 2017.
Can you provide us with any form of update regarding the development of the film at this time?
Ignore that last post it was meant for a new Traveller project. Check it out here on Kickstarter and no it's not associated with anyone involved in this production. It's called 'The Great Rift' and offes some great value for those who back high enough.
There's so much I love about Traveller and so much I can't stand as well, the main one being that there are so many variations on the main rules and next to no standard when it comes to say my Traveller universe versus your Traveller universe. So here's my last harrah so to speak to Traveller. Not at all amused by the mess that ended up being T5 and in one last hope that this will provide not just the ultimate rules for Traveller but also an area that all Travellers can have as a 'STANDARD', an area of space where no matter which fellow Travellers I meet, they will go off the work done here and not once again go off re-inventing the wheel and having the own version etc etc. The Spinward Marches is a lost cause because of this, because all Travellers have there version of what this should be So hopefully an area that few have cared to even look at can finally a be a place we can all agree upon.
Finally the biggest trouble with T5 is that it missed the point that this is supposed to be a game at heart and a game should be fun. Number crunching and having so many details for things that you spend more time constructing and working out the roles etc, is simply not fun. The most important aspect of a RPG and the best way to win is for everyone to have fun. White Wolf got this right with there superb line of dark world books and the grand daddy of RPG's done right 'Call Of Cthulhu' is the golden benchmark all RPG's are up against for this fan. Traveller has had way to many years to get it right by delivering a product that doesn't require pages and pages of errata, fixes, error corrections and worse. There's so many great products and adventures for Traveller but let's be honest, the rules are all over the place and no 2 Travellers can even agree upon all of them. So I'm hoping that perhaps this new rule set and brand new realm of properly charted space might finally provide a means to have not just an agreed section of the Traveller universe were all players refer to these guides and agree this is the setup for this area of space but a rule set that doesn't require corrections, is straight forward and manageable by everyone and that above all else promotes fun and adventure for all, with an area of space that can finally be a standard for all to game in and we can share our adventures agreeing on at least this area of space.
All in, backed the max pledge and it is my hope that this becomes a standard of Traveller that finally provides a great method for new Traveller players to get into and not just curios and bits and pieces to once again extract for the older Traveller players.
I'm just curious as to when a physical DVD or hopefully after all this time a Bluray will become available?? The other issue of course is going to be that a lot of the backers will need there shipping addresses updated as I'm certain after all this time there will be many changes of address.
Here's hoping this will eventually come out. I wasn't expecting anything more than a good story and I liked what I saw.
Here's hoping it amounts to more than this: https://www.youtube.com/watch…
This alleged complete movie amounted to 90minutes of green screen. Poor humor by someone.
Jolly Blackburn had this to say last month, over on the Knights of the Dinner Table Kickstarter page: "Well got a group PM from Ken today. First communication from him in 6 months. Looks like he's laying the ground work (as in excuses) for why he won't make the August deadline. Course that's me reading between the lines. Then again I was expecting zip from him in August anyway."
So, no. Not feeling optimistic.
@Ken Whitman - We're almost a month away from GenCon, and we haven't had an update regarding this film project in several months. You stated that this film would be ready for delivery in some shape or form by GenCon 2017.
He'll be too busy because he's filling Pencil Dice pledges...
Only 43 days until Ken kicks the can another year down the line! Who's excited to see what the next lie will be?
Anyone want to guess what it will be? I'm going with... "he's working hard, but he doesn't have the funding to complete the edits unless we buy something".
@Rich Yeah, Ken's a frelling con artist.
Any word about this?
Just anotherther Kickstarter scam.
Well, it's Friday 2 June 2017... Con Caorlinas here at Charlotte is being held, and later in the month of June will be Heroes Con that is one of the largest, oldest and best comics convention, definately gonna get things printed out to show around the two cons and share warnings so that no one else will have to go through this crap. .
I don't care about his pilot quite frankly. I only backed it on the low level because it looked pretty amateurish already. What annoys me is that he tried to supplement this campaign by making follow on sales for models that he didn't deliver. This is probably illegal and certainly unethical, but either way, I'm not prepared to give him anything more.
@Kevin. You sir, define patience and tolerance!
However, I am certain that nothing will ever come of this. His list of failures and fraudulent behavior is well documented now.
"A man's word is his bond. He has until August 20th of this year to demonstrate what his word is worth."
I think he's already done that, more than once. But, if the DVD actually shows up, I'll be glad to publicly apologize.
@Pat Robinson - I'm going to give him this last chance to redeem himself in regards to this Kickstarter. He gave his word about a year ago that a release of this project would made available to backers no later than GenCon 2017.
I will be attending GenCon 2017 this year, and I'll be checking my e-mail Inbox for updates regarding the electronic delivery of the film during the convention, as well as checking in with some booths and other individuals regarding the film.
Should I board my plane to return home on Sunday evening and still not have either a functioning download link for the game, or a confirmation that I will have the download link within seven days of returning home, I will at that time write off this KS project as a bust and avoid any other future endeavor involving Ken Whitman (film or otherwise).
A man's word is his bond. He has until August 20th of this year to demonstrate what his word is worth.
I think we can all agree Ken is a scam artist. He has ripped me off on several Kickstarters...
@Ken Whitman - You stated earlier that this film would be delivered to backers no later than GenCon 2017. It is now March 21st, and GenCon 2017 is five months away.
Can you provide us with an update regarding the post-production work you've done on this film, and demonstrate any advancements you've made towards delivering the final product?
Mr Whitman has been playing around on YouTube overnight. Added seven vids, but nothing for Spinward Traveller. Perhaps ironically, the first was titled Deceptive Heart.
Nobody here or on pencil dice will be surprised to read that.
Um, ouch. Wow
Ken's a bit busy...
Any updates, Ken?
Happy two year anniversary, everyone. In theory, only 210 more days until we see the DVD.
Anyone want to wager on whether or not it happens?
What is going on with this?
I think Marc is very careful about what he says in cases like this. I'm guessing he's had conversations behind the scenes, and is choosing to keep it that way.
Wonder why Mark Miller has not posted anything related to this project. It is his IP that seems to be getting a black eye...
Besides a Kickstarter is predicated on the assumption that one has a viable project, with a viable plan that requires a set amount of finance to bring to completion. The emphasis being on viable, plan and completion within a reasonable time frame. Now, Kickstarters may miss completion dates or encounter unavoidable obstacles but from almost day one D20 Entertainment spent more time and effort trying to sell (and failed to deliver) merchandise to raise more money to complete the project. So the that means the original budget model was lacking. Then there have been excuses that indicate poor resource allocation and time management for failing to process any video footage indicative of progress - movies etc have rough cuts etc released for preview by backers ALL THE TIME, it's part of the business model to prove a project is progressing. Everyone should remember when the rough cut of Wolverine, with all the CGI missing, was pirated: this footage existed as 'proof of concept' so that the producers (ie invested financial backers) could have input before committing further resources to completing the CGI, this is also why so many productions regularly have 're-shoots'. Again, part of the industry business model.
Ken lacks the appropriate basic business sense, he's an enthusiastic amateur lacking the skills and discipline to operate within the field of his choosing. He's like many actors who have looked at producers, directors and editors and thought 'that's easy I can do that' - some talents can successfully cross from one side of the camera to the other, many more cannot (eg: William Shatner's woeful debut directing one of the 'odd numbered' Star Trek movies). Even fewer can juggle roles that are usually performed by separate people ie: director/producer.
There are exceptions, like David Lynch, John Carpenter and Kevin Smith - but those gentlemen sweated blood to complete their projects and Ken is not one of those. Even EraserHead had something in the can to show for it when production was stalled. Ken has produced some cheap looking credits (Ken, try adobe premiere it has a ton of plugins available that will practically do the credits for you in an afternoon) and lifted a shit load of footage from Serenity for his TV promo. Ken, did you not think we couldn't go frame by frame and spot the few seconds of actual Traveller footage with Beowulf in it . . . it was of embarrassingly poor quality, reminding me of the sort of effects BBC used in Blakes 7 and 1980's Dr Who (nb: at the time they were 'great' and the BBC did amazing stuff on a shoestring 30+ years ago).
'You don't send a one legged man into an arse kicking competition', that's another way of saying don't keep trying to be something you just aren't cut out to be. The whole 'follow your dreams no matter the naysayers' bullshit is just that: sentimental bullshit to excuse failure/lack of ability.
The real shame is there are probably truly talented people out there who could direct and edit a Traveller movie to completion but haven't the connections of equipment to realize that talent. While you, Ken, have the equipment and none of talent that's appropriate to the task. Take the raw footage and give it someone who can edit it, get some business advice from a business expert so that concepts like budgets, revenue streams, resource management and project management enter your vocabulary. Finally, for Gods sake, out-source the CGI and 'stop living the dream' - work is just that 'work' and hard work is 'hard'.
PS: spell check your messages . . . the words with the wobbly red line under them are spelled incorrectly
PPS: try using 'grammatik' as well (or whatever is the equivalent in whatever software you use to compose messages).
@Linwood Niles Smith - This is the point isn't it. I'm fortunately not heavily invested in the TV show itself, but did spend significant money on the models he sought to sell outside the campaign. These weren't delivered, and I for one am certainly not going to throw more money after bad.
Wait...You've taken my and my fellow backers' money (to the tune of $49,800) and done .03% more than diddlysquat with it, taking nearly 2 years to produce approximately 30 seconds of a 30 MINUTE product... and now you're wanting even MORE money from us, Ken? We aren't wanting, and neither are we expecting miracles from you Ken... just a finished product in a timely manner. And at this rate, Spinward Traveller will be ready in roughly 88 years, give or take.