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It's completely irrelevant if they are using a 3rd party library or have written their own code. The purpose of checking for a CD/DVD is so you can't just copy the game (e.g. to a local drive or USB drive) and play it everywhere (-> DRM).
Needing a CD/DVD in a drive (although having made a full install) is complete bullshit from a user experience point of view. I'm not a DJ! And I don't like to having moving parts or stuff I can lose in my computers anyway.
It seems like you are claiming to know how technology works but at the same time denying a CD/DVD-check being DRM, you must be kidding.
Sure, it wasn't called DRM back then but this doesn't change it's whole purpose is being a copy protection i.e. DRM.
But if we'd assume it's not DRM, what is it then? They just added it to annoy legitimate buyers of the game, what for? Just for the heck of it?
@Martin if your game had securom or lets say safedisc from back then and it was doing a disc check, yes that was a 3rd party wrapper on the exe and prevented most software from copying them, DRM. If its a simple check with api calls GetDriveType & GetVolumeInformationA to see if the disc is in the drive and only this (which Obduction does), its NOT DRM.
A CD/DVD check isn't DRM. Look up what it actually means and you'll see what I'm talking about. The digital rights management came along when securom and safedisc/safecast came about. Disc checks have been around since The 7th Guest, nobody called this DRM, the api. You have the two confused as being the same, a disc check isn't a 3rd party wrapper or means of combating copying the disc or game because any burner can copy and write the Obduction disc, there is ZERO means of any prevention of making a backup disc. If you're still on believing a disc check in this matter is DRM then I know your level of understanding how this technology works and the differences between them. There is no point in arguing the point then.
I'm at the "Art Collector" pledge level and haven't received game box, art of Obduction and the rest of the physical rewards (the T-shirt has been delivered long time ago). Is it possible to get a tracking number?
@DeeZaster: It is DRM.
I really thought the times were over where the first thing you have to do after buying a game is downloading a no-CD/DVD crack.
@DeeZaster, Ahh but it doesn't need to load any files off of the disc. It runs a check to make sure you have the disc in the drive.
It is indeed DRM.
@Overmann Having a Disc kept in the drive is NOT DRM. The executable isn't wrapped with a 3rd party anti-copying protection.
I would like to play this without having to have the DVD in drive at all times
"Gimme the Box Receive an exclusive Obduction special boxed edition"
I only got a case, and no box.
"Will Obduction be DRM-free
Yes. The physical boxed game will be DRM-free, and the digital download will be available DRM-free depending on the distributor."
The case copy is not DRM free.
Received my box, poster, postcards, art print and art book on Thursday last week here in Germany.
Must admit that I'm very happy with the rewards. Yes, the postcards are a bit too dark, the art book is pretty standard (and did you really have to write "The Art of Obduction" on every page even when they are full page images) ... but it all looks great and the signed poster is fantastic!
That was quite a long journey but we've arrived at the end and I hop that Cyan will find the power and resources to start another adventure game project!
@Simon I found the Artbook now thanks to you. I've posted many times @Cyan for the location of the Artbook and never got a reply. Thanks again for the info.
@Simon Thanks for the clear steps! I found the artbook. It was only added last week and I had no idea.
BTW, I got the box/artbook and the game last night for the Art Collector tier. I am pretty happy with it... and I quite like the slim design of the case personally, but I gotta admit I am more of a utility kinda person and not so much box person. I remember years ago when the boxes were huge I generally chucked them out anyways because they take up so much room.
@ Angela, you should be able to access it via the humblebundle website. Once you log into the website, goto your account, then purchases, then select obduction, in the section that says "Choose platform", pick eBooks, and the artbook should appear there.
@CYAN Where's the digital artbook? I don't believe I've received mine yet...
@ Tom Van Derek Spek I'm not going to get into the debate of kickstarter being a shop, it's a very grey matter. As so being able to sign the disc, yes it is possible. The Sharpe pens that are silver in colour are made to be seen on black and will not smudge on plastic. I have contacted Cyan on the matter and have received a reply. The matter is being looked into and I will know more later.
I received my 'Art Collector'-package 30 minutes ago (while wearing my Obduction t-shirt :-) ). The game is great and so are the rewards. Thanks CYAN!
Has anyone in Australia received the art collector tier of the reward by any chance? Maybe I'm just being a little too optimistic about international delivery but I'm quite excited about receiving my goodies!
@ DeeZaster: I was at the same tier as you and yeah, the text is clear, but I think it is impossible to sign the slightly soft black plastic of which the disk is made. And for $75 extra you also get the soundtrack on CD.
Yeah, I must say that considering the total amount of money we had to pay for this tier and what we get for it, not for everybody this should be 'value for money', but we must keep in mind that Kickstarter isn't a shop and that a significant part of our money is spent for the development of the game itself. I am glad I have all physical goods at last, and now can fully enjoy Obduction!
Thanks for the reply Tom Van Derek Spek but the tier says that the disc will be signed. So Cyan didn't sign anyone's disc? Here is my tier:
NEW REWARD TIER. Receive a Kickstarter exclusive Obduction disc-golf disc that will be signed by the Obduction team, AND get a Kickstarter exclusive compact disc of the Obduction soundtrack. Both of these items are designed exclusively for (and will be available only through) this Kickstarter campaign. Your name will be featured in the “Disc Backers" section of the credits. (+ all previous rewards)
We all paid $75 more for a golf disc only makes no sense, they should be signed!
@ DeeZaster - Yeah, the golf disc is black and not signed. Inside the art book is a leaflet which is signed by all the teammembers. And, as part of this tier, you've got a small poster too, also with all signatures.
Double Disc Tier
Has anyone received their golf disc yet? I got mine and opened it today, it's not signed. Also the art book, are the signatures on the inside? My art book is sealed, I haven't opened it yet but so far my golf disc is black with the obduction logo and nothing else but a couple numbers on the back in pen.
Does anyone know the email address for customer support? My artbook arrived damaged. Everything else looks awesome.
@CYAN; You got the physical rewards out, now what about the digital Artbook, Where is it?
Btw. their FAQ explicitly states:
"Will Obduction be DRM-free?
Yes. The physical boxed game will be DRM-free, and the digital download will be available DRM-free depending on the distributor."
Today all my physical rewards arrived at my doorstep in the Netherlands! I am very happy with it! About the box, much has been said, but it is ok for me, because what is INSIDE is the most important! About that, I only can say... "wow!" Installation went smoothly and graphics are wonderful when set on the highest possible resolution (my pc can handle that). I love the soundtrack too, nice poster and art book, but I must say I expected more text.
This is a real nice add to all the Myst (Riven, URU) games I have.
Worth the wait! Thanks Cyan!
Excellent timing Cyan! My Art Collector rewards arrived on my birthday! Greatest gift ever, thanks! I love the signed poster, the artbook is beautiful and the certificate is a nice touch. Much appreciated. And thank you for the beautiful game you made.
Got my rewards! THANK YOU CYAN.
The Art Collector box just made my day! Love everything in it and I am so glad I chose it. Thanks for letting me be a part of this fabulous game!
Got my Art Collector box today. Everything is awesome! Thanks for all the hard work folks. I can't wait to frame the poster. The art book is beautiful.
I got my Art Collector rewards yesterday. I know the game "box" has cause quite a stir with backers, but I'm happy with it. As a graphic designer, I get the concept behind the sleeve and the minimalistic design. I'm also very happy with the prints, poster and art book. I was expecting a simple paperback book, so a full hardcover book was a nice surprise! Thank you Cyan!
I just got my art collector rewards yesterday, and I'm really happy with them. I live on the east cost of the U.S. so for anyone else waiting for theirs it could be coming soon. I don't understand why people don't love the boxed copy of the game, I think it's perfect. All I expected was a little cardboard box with a paper sleeve in it like the old riven box, this clear plastic box is sturdier and lets you see the seed print on the disc. Thank you Cyan!
I'm also at the art collector level and I have not received any of the physical rewards. I would love to see the packing that has caused such a stir, but I havent gotten the game yet. I didn't even get the T-shirt they sent out at the beginning, even though my backer receipt says it was sent. I have emailed Cyan multiple times asking for help, or information, or a status update, or ANY kind of communication. I have yet to get any kind of answer. From the comments it sounds like I'm not the only one who is experiencing this? Has anyone else tried to email Cyan? What backers at what levels have gotten their rewards?
Anyone know how to access the digital Art Book?
Got My rewards today
I received my obduction game in the mail and was about to put it on the shelf because I thought I didn't have the system requirements which I didn't and could not afford the upgrade anyway thought I would give it a shot and install it. well I just about fell over it works and I still cant get over it..its a beautiful game I am so happy
I'm the art collector level, but I haven't gotten any of the rewards yet. I got the emailand verified my address was current but still nothing...
I actually liked the packaging of the game but for me the most important part is the game itself. I contributed to this project because I love this company and their games. They made a promise and I feel upheld it by producing a great game . The extras were just icing on the cake.
Now that everyone that was butt hurt about the box has had there say, any idea when the east coast will receive packages? I'm assuming they've all been mailed out? Thanks for making a great game guys. Having game developer friends, I know full well the long hours and dedication that goes into making a great game. I look forward to your next one.
Just received my backer package, and everything is top notch! Thank you Cyan!
@Martin O, It's a dvd check. The DVD must be in the drive to load the game.
The game is great. Supporting it was a good thing. The box is not a bit deal - I havent framed one yet!
Actually, I was far more upset over the fact that a program I supported very early on that was supposed to run on my system no longer would run by the time it shipped. Right now both versions in the boxed set are useless to me. Needless to say I was very disappointed.
@Overmann: Is it the Steam version or CD/DVD protection?
It's not about how the box looked, it's about paying €25 more for something that adds nothing to the experience, I already own the digital game why would I want just another piece of plastic. Had I known it would be a simple box I would've not pledged that level.
Too add insult to injury the disc version has DRM.
I still haven't received anything yet, I'm also had a high tier pledge. As fir the box, I haven seen it but from what it sounds like it's just a jewel case like an xbox or Blu-ray comes in. To point out Xbox games are $60, "Give me the Box" is 75 so $15 difference is fair considering all the rewards would be less for a already released game. With kickstarter you pay more for backer only merch and to help FUND THE GAME. The main part off the tier is to get a physical DISK of the game anyway not to get some work of art but from what the update said I think it will look nice.
Cyan is team that makes games because they love to do it, like they said they needed to put forth all the cash they got into the game. And it is a good game, there are like old quick time-esk film moments where the actual acting is and you only see like these cut scenes and it looks like its bad graphics but it feels so much like the original myst where in 1993 all you could do was low res quicktime movies added in. The whole game is a labor of love to myst fans, myst a game that was made in a garage, and personally I am happy with it all.
So... I'm in Australia and I haven't received anything yet. Should I be worried? I am one of the higher tier ones where I'm meant to get a signed art book etc too - is the delay due to the additional goodies I am meant to receive?