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@CYAN Where's the digital artbook? I don't believe I've received mine yet...
@ Tom Van Derek Spek I'm not going to get into the debate of kickstarter being a shop, it's a very grey matter. As so being able to sign the disc, yes it is possible. The Sharpe pens that are silver in colour are made to be seen on black and will not smudge on plastic. I have contacted Cyan on the matter and have received a reply. The matter is being looked into and I will know more later.
I received my 'Art Collector'-package 30 minutes ago (while wearing my Obduction t-shirt :-) ). The game is great and so are the rewards. Thanks CYAN!
Has anyone in Australia received the art collector tier of the reward by any chance? Maybe I'm just being a little too optimistic about international delivery but I'm quite excited about receiving my goodies!
@ DeeZaster: I was at the same tier as you and yeah, the text is clear, but I think it is impossible to sign the slightly soft black plastic of which the disk is made. And for $75 extra you also get the soundtrack on CD.
Yeah, I must say that considering the total amount of money we had to pay for this tier and what we get for it, not for everybody this should be 'value for money', but we must keep in mind that Kickstarter isn't a shop and that a significant part of our money is spent for the development of the game itself. I am glad I have all physical goods at last, and now can fully enjoy Obduction!
Thanks for the reply Tom Van Derek Spek but the tier says that the disc will be signed. So Cyan didn't sign anyone's disc? Here is my tier:
NEW REWARD TIER. Receive a Kickstarter exclusive Obduction disc-golf disc that will be signed by the Obduction team, AND get a Kickstarter exclusive compact disc of the Obduction soundtrack. Both of these items are designed exclusively for (and will be available only through) this Kickstarter campaign. Your name will be featured in the “Disc Backers" section of the credits. (+ all previous rewards)
We all paid $75 more for a golf disc only makes no sense, they should be signed!
@ DeeZaster - Yeah, the golf disc is black and not signed. Inside the art book is a leaflet which is signed by all the teammembers. And, as part of this tier, you've got a small poster too, also with all signatures.
Double Disc Tier
Has anyone received their golf disc yet? I got mine and opened it today, it's not signed. Also the art book, are the signatures on the inside? My art book is sealed, I haven't opened it yet but so far my golf disc is black with the obduction logo and nothing else but a couple numbers on the back in pen.
Does anyone know the email address for customer support? My artbook arrived damaged. Everything else looks awesome.
@CYAN; You got the physical rewards out, now what about the digital Artbook, Where is it?
Btw. their FAQ explicitly states:
"Will Obduction be DRM-free?
Yes. The physical boxed game will be DRM-free, and the digital download will be available DRM-free depending on the distributor."
Today all my physical rewards arrived at my doorstep in the Netherlands! I am very happy with it! About the box, much has been said, but it is ok for me, because what is INSIDE is the most important! About that, I only can say... "wow!" Installation went smoothly and graphics are wonderful when set on the highest possible resolution (my pc can handle that). I love the soundtrack too, nice poster and art book, but I must say I expected more text.
This is a real nice add to all the Myst (Riven, URU) games I have.
Worth the wait! Thanks Cyan!
Excellent timing Cyan! My Art Collector rewards arrived on my birthday! Greatest gift ever, thanks! I love the signed poster, the artbook is beautiful and the certificate is a nice touch. Much appreciated. And thank you for the beautiful game you made.
Got my rewards! THANK YOU CYAN.
The Art Collector box just made my day! Love everything in it and I am so glad I chose it. Thanks for letting me be a part of this fabulous game!
Got my Art Collector box today. Everything is awesome! Thanks for all the hard work folks. I can't wait to frame the poster. The art book is beautiful.
I got my Art Collector rewards yesterday. I know the game "box" has cause quite a stir with backers, but I'm happy with it. As a graphic designer, I get the concept behind the sleeve and the minimalistic design. I'm also very happy with the prints, poster and art book. I was expecting a simple paperback book, so a full hardcover book was a nice surprise! Thank you Cyan!
I just got my art collector rewards yesterday, and I'm really happy with them. I live on the east cost of the U.S. so for anyone else waiting for theirs it could be coming soon. I don't understand why people don't love the boxed copy of the game, I think it's perfect. All I expected was a little cardboard box with a paper sleeve in it like the old riven box, this clear plastic box is sturdier and lets you see the seed print on the disc. Thank you Cyan!
I'm also at the art collector level and I have not received any of the physical rewards. I would love to see the packing that has caused such a stir, but I havent gotten the game yet. I didn't even get the T-shirt they sent out at the beginning, even though my backer receipt says it was sent. I have emailed Cyan multiple times asking for help, or information, or a status update, or ANY kind of communication. I have yet to get any kind of answer. From the comments it sounds like I'm not the only one who is experiencing this? Has anyone else tried to email Cyan? What backers at what levels have gotten their rewards?
Anyone know how to access the digital Art Book?
Got My rewards today
I received my obduction game in the mail and was about to put it on the shelf because I thought I didn't have the system requirements which I didn't and could not afford the upgrade anyway thought I would give it a shot and install it. well I just about fell over it works and I still cant get over it..its a beautiful game I am so happy
I'm the art collector level, but I haven't gotten any of the rewards yet. I got the emailand verified my address was current but still nothing...
I actually liked the packaging of the game but for me the most important part is the game itself. I contributed to this project because I love this company and their games. They made a promise and I feel upheld it by producing a great game . The extras were just icing on the cake.
Now that everyone that was butt hurt about the box has had there say, any idea when the east coast will receive packages? I'm assuming they've all been mailed out? Thanks for making a great game guys. Having game developer friends, I know full well the long hours and dedication that goes into making a great game. I look forward to your next one.
Just received my backer package, and everything is top notch! Thank you Cyan!
@Martin O, It's a dvd check. The DVD must be in the drive to load the game.
The game is great. Supporting it was a good thing. The box is not a bit deal - I havent framed one yet!
Actually, I was far more upset over the fact that a program I supported very early on that was supposed to run on my system no longer would run by the time it shipped. Right now both versions in the boxed set are useless to me. Needless to say I was very disappointed.
@Overmann: Is it the Steam version or CD/DVD protection?
It's not about how the box looked, it's about paying €25 more for something that adds nothing to the experience, I already own the digital game why would I want just another piece of plastic. Had I known it would be a simple box I would've not pledged that level.
Too add insult to injury the disc version has DRM.
I still haven't received anything yet, I'm also had a high tier pledge. As fir the box, I haven seen it but from what it sounds like it's just a jewel case like an xbox or Blu-ray comes in. To point out Xbox games are $60, "Give me the Box" is 75 so $15 difference is fair considering all the rewards would be less for a already released game. With kickstarter you pay more for backer only merch and to help FUND THE GAME. The main part off the tier is to get a physical DISK of the game anyway not to get some work of art but from what the update said I think it will look nice.
Cyan is team that makes games because they love to do it, like they said they needed to put forth all the cash they got into the game. And it is a good game, there are like old quick time-esk film moments where the actual acting is and you only see like these cut scenes and it looks like its bad graphics but it feels so much like the original myst where in 1993 all you could do was low res quicktime movies added in. The whole game is a labor of love to myst fans, myst a game that was made in a garage, and personally I am happy with it all.
So... I'm in Australia and I haven't received anything yet. Should I be worried? I am one of the higher tier ones where I'm meant to get a signed art book etc too - is the delay due to the additional goodies I am meant to receive?
"That's what they did in the old days, even when Richard Garriott made the first boxed Ultima's games he and his mom made the boxes. What you all forgot how to cut and paste?"
Not true ;-)
You're talking about the baggie versions which didn't came in a box at all.
But other kickstarter projects were able to deliver a real box at the 'same price' level - that is the main reason why I did expect a 'box' and why I'm on the 'dissapointment'-side too.
Cool with others happy with the delivery but a DVD case adds no value to my collection.
"So lesson learned, always ask for precise indications on the tier I'm pledging..."
Which I always do but not always helps.
Often (not always) the devs don't have spend a single thought on physical goods and their prices.
Plus language isn't helpful since there are how many words for 'box' or 'case' and all can mean something totally different from your expectations.
I once thought the reward price level is a good hint what to expect.
But I was profen wrong: kickstarter-wise I got 'real boxes' for €30 and 'cheap DVD cases' for €110 already :(
Folks at Cyan. Thanks for all the work. Speaking just for myself, I was happy with the format you chose for the DVD. Keep up the good work and continue on, and don't let all the complainers get you down. Cheers!
Seriously... Next time, no box -> an USB key might be more usefull than a DVD case (I'm jocking).
The box is part of the magic of a game, if the game have magic.
I had prefered more a magical box for a magical game than a concept art and some wallpapers that I will not use in any way.
If you send concept arts and wallpapers with a game, the game is supposed to be nice and to have a few kind of collector boxes.
The Backer exclusive box could have been that kind of collector box because it's an "exclusive" box! It's why I took one more exclusive box...
But it's just a simple DVD case for a simple "nice" game; there's no magic here.
I don't find any kind of Myst saga magic in Obduction.
Flat design, all numeric things, no audio translation for a video game, etc... All this kind of things are steps backward and "fun killing".
@Jeremy Noye *slow clap* 100% truthfully.. THANK YOU. I'm glad to see someone rise above the petty bickering to point out the underlying effects and ideas of kickstarter.
A box is not the game. From an environmental standpoint alone I appreciate you bypassed all the wasted padding. Well done, Cyan!
I wanted to say that I have always been a fan and supporter of your products. You are one of the last standing in the gaming industry that is still a privately held company and not part of the EA monster. And as for the Obduction rewards, I love them! The boxed game was perfect and I love your novel approach. It once again shows your ability to break from the norms of the industry. So please don't be discouraged by the negativity. Continue to be the trend setters you are and make amazing places for the mind to escape from reality. As silly as it may sound, your games (especially Riven) changed the way I looked at things and made me able to see the smallest details in everything around me. That credit goes to you and your ability to tickle the brain stem. Keep it up, like Nikola Tesla, you will one day get the credit you deserve.
Well, I went to the comments section tonight because of the title of the last Cyan update.
Wanted to see what it was about here before reading it....now I don't even want to read it and feel more disappointed than I already am...
When my girlfriend gave me the parcel, I remember I thought "didn't order any DVD lately" and I started to get excited to the idea of discovering something I ordered and then forgot about it (yes, as silly as it may appears it occasionally happens) and then it vanished as soon as it came !
I felt so ripped off that I put the "box" back in it's bubble wrap and put it on a shelf with other items waiting to be "put to the right place when I got nothing better to do".
No need to say I haven't play it yet and instantly regretted not to have pledged for the download version only.
You see I backed many different projects, and I experienced different ways of running them from creators. This led me to have indulgence towards delays (from a week to 3 years), adjustments due to production restrictions (from minor foil design changes to complete project reworking) and even a new funding campaign to cover unseen extra costs. One creator launched so much different projects in small time that they had to cancel some rewards after the funding, offering small compensations and finally had to stop their activities...and we felt sorry for them, not angry... why ?
Just because of a good communication !
We felt cared about, they really took us into account and explained everything, respect and transparency are the keys to keep the backers with you.
And that is clearly a point Cyan has to learn.
From the beginning the box tier was unclear, leading us to think of old fashioned big boxes with a real booklet and even some goodies like a map of the world or whatever, after all it's done by the original studio how else could it be ?
So lesson learned, always ask for precise indications on the tier I'm pledging...
@Andreas Wappel we want an actual box game not a dvd case. Why have a tier thats says gimme the box if you just get a clear dvd case? $30 extra for that and a box would cost a tiny fraction of that to produce. They ran out of money and physical goods people suffered.
Come on guys, what kind of special over-the-top box did you expect for 75 dollars? Even if you backed way more than that, the boxed-set is still the 75 dollars-pier! If you don't like the design that's ok.
Thanks for a very good game and everything else!
On steam the soundtrack is in the Obduction installation folder.
Steve, all the digital rewards except the art book have been available in GoG for months, possibly more than a year.. my memory is not so good... I don't know about other distribution methods though... sorry you haven't been able to get your copies... :(
I do not care about a Box. I do not care if you plant Phlox. I do not care if I eat Lox. I do not care if you buy Stocks. I do not care about a Fox. I do not care if I wear Socks. I do not care if you wear Frocks. I just want something that really Rocks. Why isn't it in my Post Office Box?
I don't need a bunch of cardboard and plastic that will get dusty on the self and then thrown away after a couple years.
Thank you for the ecological friendly minimal packaging.
apologies.... the things you said and the way you said them lead me to believe that you didn't understand that kickstarter games projects routinely take years longer than estimates, which has been my experience in every game I've backed... that was the main source of my assumption of your lack of awareness of game production. I have read all the posts by Cyan that have appeared on Kickstarter and have found most of them to be fairly standard in terms of tone and information... sometimes they came too far apart maybe. .... "no responsibility to your interests" is actually a perfect description of all kickstarters... not that any sensible creator would be totally irresponsible to their backers, if they ever want future support, of course... I was not my intention to be rude to you, if that wasn't clear... but I stand by what I said in my last paragraph... Athough if Cyan was rude to you personally, ever, I'm sorry you had to go through that.