I see on Amazon that the "V1" device is now out of stock (and available only through 3rd party sellers.) The V2 device has a Fakespot rating of "C" and the company has a rating of "D," indicating that Fakespot believes 60% of the reviews to be inauthentic.
It really is a shame, the idea of the device had such great potential. CGC (as we later found out) was basically lying from the get-go, starting with their actual location. Delaware? Nope! France!
Fed up of being considerate if I'm honest. Years later and this device is a load of rubbish. Poor support from the team, app is full of bugs, issues known for months or longer still not fixed etc etc. Still no full working product as described, massively overdue on targets and an all around sham. Massive shame as it was a great idea which was hugely mismanaged.
I think every tech product I've backed on kickstarter has either gone obsolete because it's model was unable to be supported, or it simply didn't work as promised. Ouya, AdTrap, Lima...
Lima has consistently lied to backers here as well as to shoppers at Amazon. They spent way more time and effort on deception than they ever did on development.
Either Lima has started shilling on the V2 page, or the customers are really stupid:
By Richard on September 8, 2016
I bought a purple model. It worked perfectly out of the box. The setup was flawless and took only five minutes. The headphones worked great. It took me longer to learn what the difference colors meant than for the shipment to arrive. Fast shipping. I'm using my iPhone 6s Plus to access my graduate school course data. Works great.
Um, 'scuse me Rich, ol boy. There's only ONE color of V2 listed...
The amount of cache a Lima device requires has been a problem since day 1. So yes, anyone that has a Lima has cache problems.
As I do not have a Lima at this point (killed it the first week) I can't say how it performs these days. Originally, however, it copied everything into cache, so if you had 10GB of files on Lima you had 10GB of files in cache. I'm not sure why they need to store so much information, a few KB should be more than enough for a hash and some metadata per file.
@Evan - That's how Lima "makes your devices bigger" -by using up 2x the space needed through ill-conceived and poorly implemented code. You should see the things they are doing with security!
Anybody found a problem with the lima cache? I installed it and put a few dozen gigs of stuff on my lima.. but now my phone and laptop are both constantly full because of the lima cache is so damned big and never goes away.
Just hooked mine up after having it sit in the box for 6 months (arrived on schedule). Download is ongoing, seems to be working as advertised so far. Surprised by all the negative comments.
It's pretty clear they will say or do anything to avoid having to get a real job. Just Juuuiiiicccee those marketing claims. Squeeze out another ill-gotten drop!
As of today (August 25 2016) the page you linked is showing 8 in stock, and it's basically the exact same thing as the original item - except that it's being called v2.
I'd guess this is so they can distance themselves from the shitshow that is the original device. Makes me wonder, when people buy this one and it still sucks, how long before they move to v3?
Finally got my Lima today but the only thing that I was looking forward to after reading all of the reviews was the new set of ear buds… That were not included. Yet again another Lima fail
Lol, I can't say I'm surprised at the 50% success rate... Cause at a hardware level, that's what I've seen so far (literally, had to get an exchange only to find out it was worthless anyway).. And at a software level, it's 100% failure to do what it was supposed to do.
Testing the new version with "backup plan"... first time turn on the unit and use it!
I have two, unluckily, one is ok, one is faulty... just mailed the support for help.
My thoughts exactly. I stopped funding design and tech projects here because Kickstarter's caveat emptor attitude towards us encourages campaigns like this which can be viewed as anywhere from fraudulent to merely irresponsible.
Kickstarter has become a no-interest seed-money ATM for tech grifters.
I should have pulled my support before the end of this campaign. I didn't and learned from it. I have supported some tech endeavors since but have pulled the plug on all of them because of over promises and not a good feeling based on feedback to backers. I know this is not a store but a sandbox for new ideas but.......... Buyers beware, either feel good or go home.
People are still commenting on this useless piece of crap. 8k+ ;)
Mine has been in pieces since I got it. Never updates past
0.079.4938.blahblah beta I can't remember because they don't know how to count. I found that rsync does a really good job over networks and it is free on my RPi3.
Seems that the 'ol boys club at CGC got a bit of breathing room today: MS announced they were finally shuttering a good portion of the dregs of what was once Nokia:
It failed because apps didn't app appily apping apps with apps. You know, apps! and not because we didn't need yet another crappy half-baked mobile OS, like Android and iOS.
While our friends at MS aren't giving up on Windows Mobile 10 ( + apps! ) I can't see anyone else wanting to use the system when Android can be had for free. Guess when CGC finally gets around to making a Windows Phone app! there won't be any Windows Phones left.
Finally got my Lima hooked up. Long delay for me since receiving my device, due to personal commitments and wifi/router issues, which are now resolved. (Yes, it took much longer for Lima to "fulfill" than the developers originally promised. But this was a startup effort, and I was tolerant of that.)
Initial impressions:
1) Lima seems to operate essentially as promised, making files "available" on all devices, from my at-home drive dedicated to that purpose. I like the idea of keeping my files on "my" drive rather than someone else's. I also like the idea of not using wifi/cellular data to store my files, since Lima conveys them over my in-home router, rather than via the internet. Only when a specific file is actually "called" from a remote device is internet data used to transport it to that device.
2) Although Lima promotes itself as a "personal cloud," Lima's usefulness seems much more limited than Google Drive, iCloud Drive or Microsoft Drive. Those cloud services automatically update their content when files are modified on your device. At least for now, Lima requires that users manually drag modified files onto the Lima drive for them to be available on other devices.
3) Lima apparently does NOT store actual files; only "metadata" allowing actual files to be downloaded (Lima calls it "streamed") from your Lima drive to your devices quickly upon demand. So... offline functionality is limited to only those files users have "pinned" to their devices for "offline" use. That, of course, requires forethought, before a plane trip, for example. Version 1.1 of the Lima software includes a "preference" to automatically keep an "offline" copy of documents created on your device, but that "automatic" copy is not also stored on your other devices.
4) I've set up my Lima drive to serve as a "backup" for some of my files (after all, I should be able to make good use of the large hard drive I bought for Lima use). But Lima doesn't provide such backup capability. I'm using other software to create scheduled backups (copies) of files onto the Lima drive from my computer. Then, Lima "streams" the metadata from those files to my other devices. Effectively, this makes my "backed up" computer files "available" on my other devices - if needed.
5) Lima has crashed only once in the 3 days since installation. Very likely that was caused by my attempt to bulk load many GB of data onto its drive at once. Recovery was easy enough, though not intuitive. I had to "quit" the Lima software and restart it to recover. That's a function which probably should be added to the convenient Lima menu, just in case.
For me, the "holy grail" of this product would be the ability to create a genuine "personal cloud," with which I could keep-in-sync all my files (or at least all the files I prefer to keep that way), without having to think about synchronization. A Google Drive equivalent, but running on my own personal hard drive via my own personal network, without storing my files on someone else's drive.
For now, Lima doesn't meet that standard, though I could imaging it developing.
Rha back up in computer land has a specific meaning, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup Two Lima units provides redundancy and removes single point of failure not back up....
The features of 1.2 Lima version (plus "Save files to Lima on iOS" planned later) shown on the roadmap (https://meetlima.com/product-roadmap) are the ones I am waiting for. They were generally promised in the project and without them Lima was not a fully-featured product, so I was reluctant to try using it (beside of reported stability problems).
The features of 1.3 version are very nice and useful enhancements, allowing us to use Lima effectively. This is a level to be reached for Lima to be successful. Let it be sooner than later.
@Christopher Lewis - The two units are to be placed in different locations. When one of them is failed/destroyed/stolen, the second will act as a backup.
I see you are saying Lima is a back up device. Even with two units if I delete a file on my phone it'll get deleted everywhere. What a second device will offer is redundancy and remove a single point of failure.
Or are you saying one of the pair will never delete files? If that is so drives will fill up rather fast
CGC, I never agreed to receive your unsolicited marketing emails. Sending unsolicited marketing emails is a violation of CANSPAM federal US law. Please stop exporting your backer list and importing it to customer.io and sending me spam.
Not everyone that was ripped off by you is interested to know that you're still struggling, years later, to try and deliver on promises you made.
Since DSM5, Synology has supported sync between your NAS and various cloud services. Since forever, they've supported sync between your NAS and devices.
Lima wasn't new or unique, it just appeared to offer an easy way to keep one set of files in a number of locations, and make them easy to access by yourself and others. It's too bad it didn't happen, this could have been a useful device instead of simply something to replicate a few empty legacy folders on a computer.
As you know, now apple supports this feature natively using iCloud Drive on macOS Sierra. You don't have to buy this garbage anymore if you are using on mac.
Took some hard drive reformatting, but I'm on. Now to disconnect from all other external clouds. Eager to see multi drive support with hard drives that already have existing files. Keep up the great work team Lima.
@Graeme and @Mike, the Limas at Amazon store are running out, and despite the fact that their website has a "waiting list" they claim to be 97% full. The Blue and Green versions are out already. It does not look good at all, specially considering their ratings at Amazon store has been on low 3 stars for quite some time.
If any of you also backed the AdTrap, I posted a link to a factory firmware image and the original documentation in the comments section for that kickstarter.
AdTrap seems to be a dead device these days, their forums are gone and I've been told that phones have been disconnected.
I got lima many months ago and finally the linux beta client, i Can try it now. Even if after all this time it is no more a "cool" technology and there is something better outside
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Show older commentsKC (goatCGC) 4 days ago
CGC is shilling hard on "V2" and still cannot break 3 stars. Nobody wants a Lima. It's a buggy tech dinosaur. Find a new scam.
BrianS on September 23
I see on Amazon that the "V1" device is now out of stock (and available only through 3rd party sellers.) The V2 device has a Fakespot rating of "C" and the company has a rating of "D," indicating that Fakespot believes 60% of the reviews to be inauthentic.
BrianS on September 23
@Kane,
It really is a shame, the idea of the device had such great potential. CGC (as we later found out) was basically lying from the get-go, starting with their actual location. Delaware? Nope! France!
BrianS on September 23
@KC, gotta keep the money coming in so you can pay the people in the pyramid.
Kane Lambert on September 22
Fed up of being considerate if I'm honest. Years later and this device is a load of rubbish. Poor support from the team, app is full of bugs, issues known for months or longer still not fixed etc etc. Still no full working product as described, massively overdue on targets and an all around sham. Massive shame as it was a great idea which was hugely mismanaged.
KC (goatCGC) on September 19
While that may be the norm, I find the repeated push for sales in the face of their own failings rather egregious.
BrianS on September 19
@KC
I think every tech product I've backed on kickstarter has either gone obsolete because it's model was unable to be supported, or it simply didn't work as promised. Ouya, AdTrap, Lima...
KC (goatCGC) on September 14
It's kind of crazy that this was funded over 3 years ago and they still have not delivered on the initial product specification.
KC (goatCGC) on September 13
Lima has consistently lied to backers here as well as to shoppers at Amazon. They spent way more time and effort on deception than they ever did on development.
BrianS on September 13
Either Lima has started shilling on the V2 page, or the customers are really stupid:
By Richard on September 8, 2016
I bought a purple model. It worked perfectly out of the box. The setup was flawless and took only five minutes. The headphones worked great. It took me longer to learn what the difference colors meant than for the shipment to arrive. Fast shipping. I'm using my iPhone 6s Plus to access my graduate school course data. Works great.
Um, 'scuse me Rich, ol boy. There's only ONE color of V2 listed...
BrianS on September 13
@Evan,
The amount of cache a Lima device requires has been a problem since day 1. So yes, anyone that has a Lima has cache problems.
As I do not have a Lima at this point (killed it the first week) I can't say how it performs these days. Originally, however, it copied everything into cache, so if you had 10GB of files on Lima you had 10GB of files in cache. I'm not sure why they need to store so much information, a few KB should be more than enough for a hash and some metadata per file.
KC (goatCGC) on September 5
@Evan - That's how Lima "makes your devices bigger" -by using up 2x the space needed through ill-conceived and poorly implemented code. You should see the things they are doing with security!
Evan Henshaw-Plath on September 5
Anybody found a problem with the lima cache? I installed it and put a few dozen gigs of stuff on my lima.. but now my phone and laptop are both constantly full because of the lima cache is so damned big and never goes away.
HotMayoSandwich
Superbacker
on August 31
I encourage you all to go on the version 2 Amazon page and downvote this pos.
SHAUN SWARTZ on August 28
Just hooked mine up after having it sit in the box for 6 months (arrived on schedule). Download is ongoing, seems to be working as advertised so far. Surprised by all the negative comments.
Luis Perles on August 28
@BrianS, that's exactly what I thought. It's a way to sneak from the Amazon reviews, which is averaging low 3stars for as long as it exists.
David Batu
Superbacker
on August 26
I got fooled twice with Hooke... damn..
David Batu
Superbacker
on August 26
Kickstarter should have award Lima for The most commented project of 2013. Congrats lima!
KC (goatCGC) on August 25
It's pretty clear they will say or do anything to avoid having to get a real job. Just Juuuiiiicccee those marketing claims. Squeeze out another ill-gotten drop!
BrianS on August 25
@Luis,
As of today (August 25 2016) the page you linked is showing 8 in stock, and it's basically the exact same thing as the original item - except that it's being called v2.
I'd guess this is so they can distance themselves from the shitshow that is the original device. Makes me wonder, when people buy this one and it still sucks, how long before they move to v3?
Thomas Covington on August 24
Finally got my Lima today but the only thing that I was looking forward to after reading all of the reviews was the new set of ear buds… That were not included. Yet again another Lima fail
Luis Perles on August 20
I found this today on Amazon:
https://smile.amazon.com/Lima-Private-Storage-Smartphone-Version/dp/B01H5KKGRE/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_sims…
It says version 2 and it claims to have 1 USB2 and 1 USB3. From the picture I see only one USB. It also says ships within 1 to 2 months to US address.
Corey Schroeter on August 17
Lol, I can't say I'm surprised at the 50% success rate... Cause at a hardware level, that's what I've seen so far (literally, had to get an exchange only to find out it was worthless anyway).. And at a software level, it's 100% failure to do what it was supposed to do.
Hobbes Chan
Superbacker
on August 17
Testing the new version with "backup plan"... first time turn on the unit and use it!
I have two, unluckily, one is ok, one is faulty... just mailed the support for help.
KC (goatCGC) on August 15
My thoughts exactly. I stopped funding design and tech projects here because Kickstarter's caveat emptor attitude towards us encourages campaigns like this which can be viewed as anywhere from fraudulent to merely irresponsible.
Kickstarter has become a no-interest seed-money ATM for tech grifters.
bob citkowski on August 13
I should have pulled my support before the end of this campaign. I didn't and learned from it. I have supported some tech endeavors since but have pulled the plug on all of them because of over promises and not a good feeling based on feedback to backers. I know this is not a store but a sandbox for new ideas but.......... Buyers beware, either feel good or go home.
Scott O Clark on August 9
People are still commenting on this useless piece of crap. 8k+ ;)
Mine has been in pieces since I got it. Never updates past
0.079.4938.blahblah beta I can't remember because they don't know how to count. I found that rsync does a really good job over networks and it is free on my RPi3.
KC (goatCGC) on August 6
@Thomas -Shhh! CGC is busy "innovating"
Thomas Covington on August 4
Quickly approaching 3 years and no device...
Stewart Witt on July 25
My Lima can now manage 1T of documents, music, pictures and videos!
KC (goatCGC) on July 24
@Vincent - You will never get a Lima that matches the product description of this campaign.
You may get an incomplete, amateurish, insecure and buggy turd that endangers your data, but I recommend you ask for your money back instead.
Vincent M Graziano on July 22
When will I get my LIMA?
Please advise.
Thanks.
Vincent
BrianS on July 11
Seems that the 'ol boys club at CGC got a bit of breathing room today: MS announced they were finally shuttering a good portion of the dregs of what was once Nokia:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36763904
It failed because apps didn't app appily apping apps with apps. You know, apps! and not because we didn't need yet another crappy half-baked mobile OS, like Android and iOS.
While our friends at MS aren't giving up on Windows Mobile 10 ( + apps! ) I can't see anyone else wanting to use the system when Android can be had for free. Guess when CGC finally gets around to making a Windows Phone app! there won't be any Windows Phones left.
Oh, and APPS!
Ralph Begleiter on July 10
Finally got my Lima hooked up. Long delay for me since receiving my device, due to personal commitments and wifi/router issues, which are now resolved. (Yes, it took much longer for Lima to "fulfill" than the developers originally promised. But this was a startup effort, and I was tolerant of that.)
Initial impressions:
1) Lima seems to operate essentially as promised, making files "available" on all devices, from my at-home drive dedicated to that purpose. I like the idea of keeping my files on "my" drive rather than someone else's. I also like the idea of not using wifi/cellular data to store my files, since Lima conveys them over my in-home router, rather than via the internet. Only when a specific file is actually "called" from a remote device is internet data used to transport it to that device.
2) Although Lima promotes itself as a "personal cloud," Lima's usefulness seems much more limited than Google Drive, iCloud Drive or Microsoft Drive. Those cloud services automatically update their content when files are modified on your device. At least for now, Lima requires that users manually drag modified files onto the Lima drive for them to be available on other devices.
3) Lima apparently does NOT store actual files; only "metadata" allowing actual files to be downloaded (Lima calls it "streamed") from your Lima drive to your devices quickly upon demand. So... offline functionality is limited to only those files users have "pinned" to their devices for "offline" use. That, of course, requires forethought, before a plane trip, for example. Version 1.1 of the Lima software includes a "preference" to automatically keep an "offline" copy of documents created on your device, but that "automatic" copy is not also stored on your other devices.
4) I've set up my Lima drive to serve as a "backup" for some of my files (after all, I should be able to make good use of the large hard drive I bought for Lima use). But Lima doesn't provide such backup capability. I'm using other software to create scheduled backups (copies) of files onto the Lima drive from my computer. Then, Lima "streams" the metadata from those files to my other devices. Effectively, this makes my "backed up" computer files "available" on my other devices - if needed.
5) Lima has crashed only once in the 3 days since installation. Very likely that was caused by my attempt to bulk load many GB of data onto its drive at once. Recovery was easy enough, though not intuitive. I had to "quit" the Lima software and restart it to recover. That's a function which probably should be added to the convenient Lima menu, just in case.
For me, the "holy grail" of this product would be the ability to create a genuine "personal cloud," with which I could keep-in-sync all my files (or at least all the files I prefer to keep that way), without having to think about synchronization. A Google Drive equivalent, but running on my own personal hard drive via my own personal network, without storing my files on someone else's drive.
For now, Lima doesn't meet that standard, though I could imaging it developing.
Christopher Lewis on July 8
Rha back up in computer land has a specific meaning, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup
Two Lima units provides redundancy and removes single point of failure not back up....
rha on July 8
The features of 1.2 Lima version (plus "Save files to Lima on iOS" planned later) shown on the roadmap (https://meetlima.com/product-roadmap) are the ones I am waiting for. They were generally promised in the project and without them Lima was not a fully-featured product, so I was reluctant to try using it (beside of reported stability problems).
The features of 1.3 version are very nice and useful enhancements, allowing us to use Lima effectively. This is a level to be reached for Lima to be successful. Let it be sooner than later.
@Christopher Lewis - The two units are to be placed in different locations. When one of them is failed/destroyed/stolen, the second will act as a backup.
Christopher Lewis on July 8
I see you are saying Lima is a back up device. Even with two units if I delete a file on my phone it'll get deleted everywhere. What a second device will offer is redundancy and remove a single point of failure.
Or are you saying one of the pair will never delete files? If that is so drives will fill up rather fast
lokiracer on July 7
CGC, I never agreed to receive your unsolicited marketing emails. Sending unsolicited marketing emails is a violation of CANSPAM federal US law. Please stop exporting your backer list and importing it to customer.io and sending me spam.
Not everyone that was ripped off by you is interested to know that you're still struggling, years later, to try and deliver on promises you made.
BrianS on July 7
@works,
Since DSM5, Synology has supported sync between your NAS and various cloud services. Since forever, they've supported sync between your NAS and devices.
Lima wasn't new or unique, it just appeared to offer an easy way to keep one set of files in a number of locations, and make them easy to access by yourself and others. It's too bad it didn't happen, this could have been a useful device instead of simply something to replicate a few empty legacy folders on a computer.
works on July 4
As you know, now apple supports this feature natively using iCloud Drive on macOS Sierra. You don't have to buy this garbage anymore if you are using on mac.
BrianS on July 3
@Kevin Magna,
I don't think I'd do that just yet.
Kevin Magna on July 3
Took some hard drive reformatting, but I'm on. Now to disconnect from all other external clouds. Eager to see multi drive support with hard drives that already have existing files. Keep up the great work team Lima.
Chris van Gorder on June 22
I am on, finally!
Only took a reformat of the HD and connecting it to the OnHub router.
Luis Perles on June 20
@Graeme and @Mike, the Limas at Amazon store are running out, and despite the fact that their website has a "waiting list" they claim to be 97% full. The Blue and Green versions are out already. It does not look good at all, specially considering their ratings at Amazon store has been on low 3 stars for quite some time.
Graeme Robertson on June 16
Nope I never got it either.
Very little response from them when I chased it as well.
Mike Vanderpool on June 16
Never got any of my LIMAS what gives?
terry (Eye Toldyoosso) on June 15
@Brian S
Thanks for the info...my AdTrap still works on my PC
BrianS on June 15
If any of you also backed the AdTrap, I posted a link to a factory firmware image and the original documentation in the comments section for that kickstarter.
AdTrap seems to be a dead device these days, their forums are gone and I've been told that phones have been disconnected.
Thomas Covington on June 12
Still no Lima....
Enrico Maria Casarotti on June 11
I got lima many months ago and finally the linux beta client, i Can try it now. Even if after all this time it is no more a "cool" technology and there is something better outside