Use this space to cheer the creator along, ask questions, and talk to your fellow backers. Please remember to be respectful and considerate. Thanks!
While CGC is too busy to answer (or disrespectful ignoring) small people a.k.a bastards like us. Feel free to add your name on this list if you haven't so, even if you have already received your piece of paper weight, because that is not what you backed for right? Most of us knew it probably won't do any good at this point or even in the future, but would be interesting to see the list gets longer.
After all the small money form us small people are just baits to lure the big fish in.
Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
106. Rasmus Andersen
104. Ibon Azkoitia (https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/ibonazkoitia)
103. Jonathan Tasman
102. Hugo Borge
100. Shant Jordan
99. Robert Cheung
98. Wayne Tamane
97. nahum kivshani
93. Z. Isaiah
91. D. Sun
90. Nicholas Connolly
89. Phrig. (added due to comment)
88. Andrew Pearce .....2 years of waiting and countng ....
85. Alvin Phang
81. Ulf Behncke
80. Nestor Miyares
79. Matt Grandis
77. thunderkingdom (https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/thunderkingdom)
76. Julie Tagliamonte
75. Thomas Orzechowski
73. Guilherme Mori
72. Margaret Donohue
71. Ingo Stengl
70. Jeramie Johnson
69. Drew Tennimon
68. Benjamin Jacob Wehmann
67. Sébastien KEMPF
65. Adam McIver
64. Linoge (added due to comment)
63. Burton Strauss III (added due to comment)
62. Tadeu Bento (https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/tcb13)
61. Shichimi (added due to comment)
60. Maoz Maroody (added due to comment)
59. BAPTISTE Jean-Christophe (added due to comment)
58. Michael Hofer (added due to comment)
57. Bereth Galicia Cetina
56. Mirko Maurice (http://goo.gl/63oiNv)
55. VW (http://goo.gl/woHfI5)
54. Steve Munro (http://goo.gl/RIIpjQ)
53. Afonso Luciano (http://goo.gl/kAXHQo)
51. Ariel Wiznia
50. hans wurst
49. BRANDON JOHNSON
48. Robert Gauck
47. Scott O Clark (added due to comment)
46. Baskaran Gupta (added due to comment http://goo.gl/IFAHDD)
44. QF (added due to comment http://goo.gl/21kUxF)
43. Fred Raguillat (added due to comment http://goo.gl/Rkgpi9)
42. Bogdan Stanciu
41. Mike Gunderloy
39. Colin de Mello
38. SinNYC (Refund request emailed & ignored)
37. fmotta (added by comments)
36. Nicolas Morell (added due to comment)
35. Justin Bean
34. Joey Smith
33. Charles Engen
32. Amy Daley
31. Mehmet Acr
30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
29. Gabriel de la Pena (http://goo.gl/hTHA3S)
28. Daniel Arevalo
27. Francisco Dianderas
26. Adam Doig (added by request)
25. Benjamin Eick
24. Charles-etienne jamme
23. Siqi Damien Liu
22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
20. Casey Allen
18. Michael Reiter
15. Brian Carter
14. Kjell Provost
13. Keith Anderson
12. Dongjin Kim
10. Brandon Williams
9. Ian R
7. Chris Lewis
3. Ozymandias (managed to get a refund after support called him a 'bastard' and antagonized him https://goo.gl/RorYVo)
2. Max Metz
1. Rey Espinueva
A long form post of my consolidated thoughts:
To all backers who have received their Lima and are satisfied: I am happy for you.
To all backers who are content with CGC's management of this campaign: I am happy for you.
To all backers who complain about the many posts (like this one) that you construe as "negative", I ask you to review the very long list of complaints lodged against CGC in those posts - and CGC's complete failure to address the majority of them - and, at the very least, acknowledge we have the right to be upset.
For my own part, I feel I have been intentionally misled, lied to, and defrauded. In my opinion, this whole thing has been a long con. They've collected the money, dicked around long enough that your credit card and Amazon won't refund your money, put in place NDA's on the beta to give themselves even more time to operate this scam, and now, as we approach the date of actual release (anybody want to bet that August 1st date on Amazon gets pushed back???), I predict they'll end this whole charade by declaring bankruptcy. I give them props for having the balls to pull off such a massive fraud. In the end, I don't care if Lima turns out to be the greatest device ever built; I want my money back. At this point, if Sev and Christophe were on fire and rolling around on the ground in front of me, I wouldn't even unzip my fly to put out the flames.
To CGC I say yet again: refund my money in full and I will never post here or anywhere else about your company or product. Since your debacle with Ozymandias, we now KNOW that you can and do give refunds, So...GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!
#Fraud , #Lies , #Delays , #Theft, #Scam, #Beware_of_Amazon_Reviews, #Bankruptcy
they still have time to post to twitter though...
Being "too busy" to deal with their customer's questions, concerns and complaints are all part and parcel of CGC's snobby and duplicitous treatment of all those who gave them money.
"Not enough time today but will answer other comments tomorrow."
Oh am I going to have fun with this. Let us bas***ds of the Lima backing pool not get answers to the questions we are all posing. Let's not give the 100+ people who are requesting a refund a reason not to ask for a refund. Seriously how hard is it to say: "we fu**ed up and we will be refunding those of you who feel that this device is not what you backed". Seriously Sevrin, are you just ignorant to the comments with questions asking for transparency on your device. Which some of us just will use as a paperweight once we receive it.
Next aspect. Who uses "we are going from 0.9 to 0.10" In reality, if you were upgrading a version from 0.9 to anything, in this case, this project is still in 0.1.9, not even worthy of having beta testers. This is a pathetic pipe dream made up by people with the mentality of highschoolers and probably the intellect of them as well.
Hi, I had some problems where my Lima started to constantly drop out (this happened after trying to delete files from the Lima drive). This problem persisted even after reinstalling it on all my devices so I tried to format the Lima drive but now it says I have a foreign drive and will not let me use it.
Lima fails the most basic backup test: If you accidentally delete a file, you cannot get it back.
@Creator, if this is incorrect, please specify how.
Very useful, perhaps update here. Would you make your vc backers get updates on line instead of in person, no so you are showing us huge disrespect.
Also will you answer the SSL queries being raised on twitter?
You can read our last tech update here: https://meetlima.com/blog/…
Not enough time today but will answer other comments tomorrow.
Synology boxes are a true NAS box. While they offer some of the features that were promised here, the first purpose of a Synology box is to serve you files.
That being said, if you want a NAS (albeit, a bit pricey,) I wholeheartedly recommend them. They do get the lemon from time to time, but I have some that have been on pretty much 24/7 since 2011.
Slow device. Very buggy. After last update my Android device can no longer see any files on the external hard drive, even though my mac can still see them. No reply from tech support. File structure as stated from others before is unreal. The way they break it up is crazy. Maybe something from synology will be much better.
Seems like system was developed with IOS and mac in mind. PC and android support are garbage. Android app is killing battery life on phone and since it doesn't do anything, it has been uninstalled. Disappointed in the product big time. Ear phones lasted a few days. Low budget.
After The Dash comes through and my Anymote I think I'm done with Kickstarted. All these garbage projects popping up. Do not recommend this device for anyone. Super behind and promises not delivered on (old news). Anyways I put this post up to contribute to the unhappy backers. I am also one of them.
Refund would be nice but live and learn.
*makes your computer bigger, that is
@John - Your post makes no sense. Lima is innovative, makes your computer, AND is better than Dropbox. Severin told me so.
After contact with your helpdesk it's clear that "file sending" is not a current feature. This means that the "feature schedule" on your webpage is incorrect. Could you please provide me with an updated schedule so that I know what I'm (not) getting.
I'm not interested in paying import fines for something i wont use. Please refund
The...............STATUS OF SHIPPING................link on there website has been removed
i want to see all the paper weights ship
I don't even care that much about the total loss of the money I pledged anymore. I just want to burn these motherf*ckers down.
I can't wait to see the carnage in the Amazon reviews area when this pos goes live on 8/1.
I began as a Mac user with Leopard. Upgraded to Snow Leopard and then never looked back. I will end my Mac days with SL. I have enough backup machines to last me alot of years.
To date none of them have givven me any problems. Macminis, imacs and macbooks(pro). They work flawlessly - doing everything and anything I want them to.
So for me the requirement of LIMA working on SL is a dealbreaker. IF the one who gave me this answer to begin with knew what they were talking about I do not know. Or care. Done is done. They have had plenty of time to notify all and everyone of change in requirements. I also did not donate directly after their answer to give them time to give another answer(I do this everytime I ask questions on kickstarter to projects owners). But they did not. So I hold them to it.
But I do understand that my chances of getting my money back is slim to none. It is sad but true :-/
@Christopher Lewis - It's a pre-sale cash grab, but they are not going to like all the returns etc. CGC as a company is nearing it's endgame. Grab the last bits of $ (shipping fees, pre-orders) and then duck out and start a new company.
man I bet they wished they had limited themselves to the original python coded 1000 units and developed v2 in the last two years rather than the manure storm that is building. why sell on amazon before final version of software is finished seems like deliberate attempt to destroy their company!
Could you please explain how the feature "Send really big documents to your clients instantaneously" works?
@CGC, two annoyances:
I'm not sure why you decided to take the LEDs off the device. Last board I designed, I was told "It looks like a christmas tree!" My reply: Yeah, and you can tell at a glance exactly what's working and what's not.
Please, get rid of the automatic "Documents Movies Music Pictures" folders creation. This isn't Windows 98, we've moved on.
To the best of my knowledge, I can see no way of sharing anything outside devices you've connected to the Lima. The only two options I have are "Keep offline version for all" and "Remove offline version for all"
Right now, the box simply acts like a NAS with a non-geek share interface.
Yes. I had to upgrade the firmware before anything other than my router would see it.
One of the main reasons for me to back was the feature CGC calls "Send really big documents to your clients instantaneously" - is this the one you say is missing or are you refering to something else?
@All USERS: LIMA Not Found error. My router detects LIMA but indicates LIMA is OFF.
Has anyone found a solution to this problem?? .....Thx
It seems there was a firmware update that I didn't get the email about. So my Lima unit was no longer recognized by the software it was originally paired with. That in itself is kind of scary, imagine the manufacturer pushing an update that kills your box until you upgrade. Pogoplug used to pull crap like that...
I updated, and it works again. However:
The offline file thing kills me. Yes, you can right-click the folder and tell it to not keep them, and yes, it's supposed to go away in "future" releases, but that's not useful now.
Like Peter Ståhlberg, I specifically asked about a feature - in this case the ability to share a file with someone who doesn't have a Plug device, ala DropBox. The answer was affirmative, but that isn't there either.
Right now, to me, this is just a NAS box with a simplified fileshare interface, and really doesn't do anything I haven't already done. So I'm not sure what to do with the thing. I haven't probed it enough to figure out the OpenWrt telnet password, and I don't need another NAS. As I said before, I guess it goes into the box of dead technology beside the AdTrap and Ouya.
I fully understand. I had a SL machine for a while (replaced it with a Pi.) It did most of what I needed of it. But, as I said, I'm guessing that the person who told you 10.6 was going to be supported probably had no clue what they were talking about.
I had originally purchased my 10.6 machine to be a video player, but It was unable to play a video to save it's life. Oddly enough, under XP, it was a pretty smooth machine...no wireless problems, and no choppy video.
I think they made this whole project much to complicated. They should have made it much, much simpler. A hardware based hub to handle USB harddrives. Fine. Then a cross platform software (not connected to the file system at all) where the user can choose which folders to sync between the computers (and set user permissions). Security could have been solved with hashed password keys. Think of it as a hardware based Bittorrent Sync if you would. This would have worked fine. Sadly they did not go this (or any other) simple route. Which we all now pay for...
Yes I'm aware Snow Leopard is gett in a bit long in the tooth. But both it and the computers I have running are working perfectly fine. Doing what they are supposed to. So why should I upgrade when I do not have to? I upgrade when I want to, on my schedule, not Apples.
Also I specifically asked CGC about Snow Leopard, which was the basis for my kickstarting the project to begin with. If they can not make it work with SL they either return the funds (since the premise is no longer valid or... well there is no other option.
Further more, there are many, many (in fact most of them) programs which work on Snow Leopard and newer. Unless there are some extremly specific reason there is no point to exkluding SL (why limit your market?).
I've backed alot of kickstarter projects (89) and it is kind of getting frustrating how many project owners are unable to deliver. Either fully or in the terms stated in the project. Even in a small number of cases deliver anything at all. It is a full range of bing naive, incompetent and downright being a scammer. LIMA got 1.2+ Millioin USD and THIS is what they have come up with?
BUT that is all irrelevant. I'm only concerned about my own case here. They promised SL support and I did not get it. So either they lied or failed to notify donors of this case. Either case it is a clear case of return the funds. I however they add SL support I change my mind naturally. But so far I have not even heard anything from them. Neither as a response on my comments here at kickstarter OR direct communations with their team.
I hope the headphones are good. Since it now seems I have purchased them at a premium price. They damn well better be! :-/
So far my equipment is working well with LIMA. It took some time to figure out how to setup my mobile devices, and I am eager to know when the release for Windows Mobile will be there.
Regards, Frank van Heneste
Hi, what do we have to do to get a refund? Thanks for the answers.
@Jc - Please do update.
I was sent two limas, and one shit the bed and now perpetually says it is offline. The other lima I received will only detect drives smaller than a certain size and so far @CGC has told me that they see nothing wrond and won't let me return my devices. This is on top of them taking days to return my emails (during beta my emails were answered within the same day). I'm sick of this fucking dog and pony show they have going here and will be contacting my lawyer to pressure them into giving me the refund I have asked for. I will update with further information about legal proceedings for those interested.
I gota say the latest ridiculous CGC snafu is after all the lack and disinformation surrounding this ill conceived project they now think barraging me with 4 e-mails in 3 days about the impending shipment (of a product that I will never trust enough to even power up let alone store data using) has got to be the final joke.
@CGC Will there be a way to opt out of unification and just have a dropbox sort of setup?
Lima fails the most basic backup test: If you accidentally delete a file, you cannot get it back.
@KC, that makes a lot of sense. FUQ! - Lima
@Clemens - We should start a blog entitled:
FUQ - Lima
frequently unanswered questions
I would want to receive my lima if you were done 1.0 version.
Received my Lima today. Easy installation and it works perfectly.
You said "[...] hard to answer questions that have already been addressed multiple times or that don’t really expect an answer."
1) think of this: maybe you haven't addressed them properly enough yet? There is even a list here in the comments section where someone compiled a list of unanswered questions you tend to ignore... check it out!
2) we don't want an answer to the questions we state?!? Meaning you are not taking us "small" backers serious...
You want to know what my question is? Just scroll down a couple of comments and you will see my last comment with a question to you which you just ignored... but to spare you the inconvenience I'll copy-paste my last post for you:
@Scott but why?
If they are so confident in their work and product, they should gladly refund anyone asking for a refund and then sell that device for the retail price making a win in real cash, right?
We helped them start through with their product and now it is "ready" (whaahahaha, sorry;) and will soon (two years too late) hit the market. So there is no reason to not give a refund, right?
except... if CGC knows that they don't have a chance selling this product... and the members of the team are already looking for new jobs...
So @CGC, why not refund the "few" hundred backers asking for it and make a profit from it by selling the non wanted limas at retail price?
@CGC You are far more worst than I thought. I knew that you can't code, you can't communicate well with backers etc. But simple maths? You have repeatedly posted "next release 0.10". For the first time I assumed that you have a typo, then again?
So, this will go on and on and on like 0.9 -> 0.1 -> 0.2 -> ... -> 0.9 then back to 0.1 right? Now, I think I get that! Thanks guys! Refund my money!
J'ai reçu l'appareil Lima mais il manque la clé Chromecast que vous avez promis avec cette livraison à l'époque de l'achat. Quand est ce que je reçois la Chromecast. Je vous remercie
Hi please can you come up with a different term to back up to describe what two Lima's do, as back requires the element of retrieval if data is lost, this is false advertising https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackupBackup
If a file is deleted then both Lima's will sync the deletion and neither will hold the data. A better description is a cloud with redundancy (or redundant cloud).
Oh whilst we're on false advertising which version will I have to wait for before I can remove the HDD from lima, plug into another PC and be able to retrieve the data. From the comments seen data on HDD is stored in proprietary fragments not recognised by native OS
@Ben, thanks for your feedback!
@Shaun We’ll let you know when you’ll be able to add an already-filled hard drive and I’m sorry for the delay on this.
Concerning your EU plug instead of a UK one, this is the first time that we have a case like this. We’ll send you a UK adapter right away and Customer care will follow up with you on this.