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Lima reinvents the way your devices store data. Find the same files everywhere. Forget size limits. Keep your content private.
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The CGC team

12,840 backers pledged $1,229,074 to help bring this project to life.

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    1. Creator Jeff Herendeen about 2 hours ago

      This may cause a stir, but I just recently received my Lima for beta testing, and I'm pretty excited. I know a lot of people have been clamoring for a refund, but I still have hope for this device. I also understand that there are other options for achieving similar functions as far as devices or setups are concerned, but I'm just happy to have the device in my hand after these long two years.

    2. Creator Charles Engen about 5 hours ago

      All those unhappy with Lima.... say so on facebook, twitter, etc...

      with the hashtags

      #Innovators35
      and/or
      #Innnovadores35

      I have sent an email to Innovators Under 35 saying....

      You have been taken in, why don't you wait until AFTER the product is created and can be demonstrated to award a "top innovator under 35" award.

    3. Creator Charles Engen about 5 hours ago

      Thanks @Christopher Lewis: what the hell.... Severin a top innovator ???

      http://innovatorsunder35.com/innovator/s%C3%A9verin-marcombes

      we do need to email about their choice...

      info_innovatorsunder35@opinno.com

    4. Creator Carlos Andres Mendez Diaz about 6 hours ago

      Feliz de recibir mi @MeetLima, ansioso de empezar la prueba. 

    5. Creator Carlos Andres Mendez Diaz about 6 hours ago

      Feliz de recibir mi @MeetLima, ansioso de empezar la prueba.

    6. Creator Pnɐuɹɐ Lechevalier about 11 hours ago

      I backed Lima/Plug/CrappyTruc for the possibility to reuse my old HD all together... I just read that you can't plug more than only one HD at a time ? I can't believe it !

    7. Creator Christopher Lewis about 13 hours ago

      https://www.facebook.com/MeetLima…
      In case you don't do FB
      "Severin was named one of the top Innovators Under 35 by the MIT Technology Review"
      I have emailed them at info_innovatorsunder35 (at) opinno.com

    8. Creator Joey Smith about 19 hours ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      34. Joey Smith
      33. Charles Engen
      32. Amy Daley
      31. Mehmet Acr
      30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    9. Creator dim3m 1 day ago

      I did an unboxing video that i never uploaded to youtube. Cause it does not feel like its worth putting online. Its like im insulting myself for even showing this piece if crap that don't work.

    10. Creator dim3m 1 day ago

      Im glad that i got my none working Lima. It sits in the garage in the box which it came in, inside a larger storage container filled with other kickstater crap I got. Now every time i see a good idea on KS. I always ask myself. Do i really need this crap? A year from now will i be using this crap? And Consider that this idea can come from better and mature company. Save yourself from kickstarter drama crap.

    11. Creator dim3m 1 day ago

      @provost, that idea has been done before. There was a list done back then which had names of backers who commented on requesting refunds. I think it was a year ago. Good luck finding it. My name was also included there. But since i got my none working Lima and the NDA. Im out of the refund.

    12. Creator Charles Engen 1 day ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      33. Charles Engen
      32. Amy Daley
      31. Mehmet Acr
      30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    13. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 1 day ago

      @provost That seems like a decent idea.

    14. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 1 day ago

      @pulinx, you might want to re-read it. http://www.scribd.com/doc/251329793/Lima-Beta-Testing-Agreement section 12 says they own your comments *forever*

      And even if that were not the case, the fact that you can only comment with ore-approval of Lima means we cannot trust anything you state. Anything truly negative would not be allowed to be posted.

    15. Creator Pulinx Olivier 1 day ago

      @Amy the NDA only runs during the beta of course.

    16. Creator Amy Daley 1 day ago

      @Pulinx - I have a problem with being required to sign an NDA in order to receive a product I've bought & paid for. They were required to send these to us by now in order to keep the awards they purchased and keep touting.

    17. Creator Pulinx Olivier 1 day ago

      Alright Christopher, and precisely the reason why I share your point of view and I said.
      The smart move for Lima would have been to propose 2 options (1- Go on waiting. 2- Get a refund) the moment they decided to recdo the code.

      To Amy,
      Indeed I signed a NDA but in a recent update Team Lima published a beta tester's email. Maybe they'll open their communication a little as we are closing to the public launch.
      I won't be able to talk much about it.

    18. Creator Provost Kjell 1 day ago

      @ozymandias maybe be should browse through the comments and add the people to the refund list who already asked in the past for a refund? Not everyone checks this project so often as we do.

    19. Creator Amy Daley 1 day ago

      @Pulinx, it's awesome that you got accepted to be beta for whatever project it is that Lima will be sending you - did you have to sign the draconian NDA, or are you going to be free to completely disclose your experience with the device, good/bad or otherwise?

    20. Creator Amy Daley 1 day ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      32. Amy Daley
      31. Mehmet Acr
      30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    21. Creator Christopher Lewis 1 day ago

      Pulinx thanks for the reply - trouble I have is a lot of the functionality has been removed (like linux xupport, being able to have more than one HD attached to the Lima, support for non standard store locations, like TC I do not use my docs etc, in the comments CGC confirmed that we would be able to point Lima to them, no longer). The list is longer but it is no longer suitable for my set up due to decision to redo the code.

    22. Creator Pulinx Olivier 1 day ago

      Good point Christopher.
      I am less disappointed because I see this differently. Like you say "the throwing away of two years work and re-starting code from scratch". When I got involved in this I backed for a product and functionalities. I'd rather be disappointed with a right-in-time delivered product that I would have throw away by now because it's ill-coded. And I would have had the feeling of being screwed. I'd rather wait.
      Where I join you is, about the delay. At that time (when they decided to re-code) I would have offered the possibility of a refund. Not that usually I would but in this case when the added delay is that huge then it becomes a smart move. Anticipating a bigger problem was their idea when they trashed the first code. They should have also anticipated backers' rightfull wish not to wait this long. Lack of experience again.
      For instance I backed a smartphone dock. when it came, later than expected I was 2 month away from getting a new device (with a different connector).
      In Lima's case, I chose to wait because it's functionalities appeal to me. And as an expert in the technology (@work, I mean it's my job) I am curious about it. And so I wasn't surprised by their first failure because I'm well aware of cross-platform file system exchange difficulty. At that time I saw their product as a "tour de force". And later they crashed !!!

      I really get you and your grudge. My expectations are just different if I can say it like this.

      Regards,

    23. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 1 day ago

      "First an more important, Kickstarter project never implies a success and YOU should be aware of that when YOU and only you decide to become a backer. "

      We were aware of that, and we assessed the risks when we decided to back. However, Lima decided to change the scope of the project, and introduce many, many new risks that were not part of the project.

      They took the money to slap existing software in off-the-shell hardware. The hardware is ready, but the software is not. Why? because they scrapped 2 years of software development and started over, which is not what we backed -- not to mention they have removed features every step of the way.

      That said, the Kickstarter TOS state that project creators owe refunds if the project fails, so it's a moot point.

    24. Creator Christopher Lewis 1 day ago

      Hi thanks for posting and glad you'll be getting your Lima soon. But can I just bring you up on one thing
      "First an more important, Kickstarter project never implies a success and YOU should be aware of that when YOU and only you decide to become a backer. "
      I would be very surprised if any backer is not aware of this. We are angry about the throwing away of two years work and re-starting code from scratch. They should have offered us refunds as soon as they did this anything else is a breach of kick starters terms they signed up to.
      I backed a completion of user interfaces and hardware production with a completion date of a few months, not what they actually did with the money.

    25. Creator Pulinx Olivier 1 day ago

      Rejoiy everyone as I am going to get my Lima device.
      I asked to be part of the Beta Team and got accepted a while back.
      Now I'll be able to help everyone getting a good product.
      I can understand some peoples frustration about the delays and/or the communication about this project.
      Thought I would like to give my point of view regarding this.
      First an more important, Kickstarter project never implies a success and YOU should be aware of that when YOU and only you decide to become a backer.
      It is not my first campaign and only one of them ended according to the scheduled plan.
      Second, people @ Team Lima were never there to abuse peoples' trust or anything like this. The only valid criticism I come to think about is that they were cruelly lacking of expirience. But one can't swim right on it's first attempt, no ? Please be kind to them and maybe try to remember yourself living that awkward situation where you realize that you have engaged yourself in something and find yourself in way over your head.

      Before this post ends, forgive my english mistakes as it's not my mother language.
      And now I leave you with a copy of today's Lima's mail to convince you that they are @work and that in a rather short time you can expect to receive your own delivery announce.

      Hey there!

      We’re very pleased to write you to prepare the shipment of your Lima device(s).

      To make sure your parcel will hit your mailbox smoothly, could you please confirm your shipping address:
      CONFIRM
      Tips:
      Feel free to add your phone number, it helps for shipments outside the USA and Canada.
      If you have ordered several Lima devices with different shipping addresses, you will receive one email per order.

      The following product(s) will be shipped once your address is confirmed:

      Item Description Quantity
      Lima P1-PRPL-EU 1
      Tshirt TS-L 1
      Any questions? Contact us at team@meetlima.com.

      Many thanks for your support.

      Your Lima will soon be in your hands :)

      Best,

      Severin and the Lima team.

    26. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 1 day ago

      https://twitter.com/cxsarceno/status/591629376392822784

      Looks like another person successfully got a refund of some sort from Lima. Now for the rest of us!

    27. Creator Mehmet Acr 1 day ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      31. Mehmet Acr
      30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    28. Creator TC 2 days ago

      @BrianS
      Didn't see that coming. But, nothing is, with this project.

    29. Creator BrianS 2 days ago

      @TC:

      (sarcasm tag goes here)

      The technology was developed on 'Linux,' but the pictures I've seen all show developers working on fancy-pants Macs. I'd guess the majority of the codebase was developed on those Macs.

      However,

      Unix was developed by AT&T
      Minix was created as a small, Unix-like system
      Linux was influenced by Minix
      I'd like something frozen

      but,

      University of California, Berkeley developed a Unix-like, called BSD
      OSX is descended from BSD
      Cake batter flavor froyo is the best

      Therefore,

      Linux has a terminal application
      OSX has a terminal application
      I have a spoon

      That means OSX is Linux. Your argument is invalid :)

      (closing the sarcasm tag, but no HTML allowed)

    30. Creator TC 2 days ago

      @ CGC
      Lima’s core technology was developed on Linux: that means that everything is *already* coded for Linux except for the UI.

      So why it hasn't been implemented and tested yet? If that is your "CORE" technology and everything else (Windows, OSX, iOS, android) has to be written around it, shouldn't it be the one to have been first released? UI is the easy part right(according to your previous reply)? Or your core technology hasn't been fine tuned yet? And since it is Linux, where is the source code when everyone is asking for it?

      So, to be easy for you. Do you have the stable Linux client software?

      Second, a long avoided question! I don't save my file in the predetermined folders a.k.a "Home" folders of my computer, I have dedicated hard drive for each of my photos, music and other files. In fact, I have 4 Hard drive installed in my home PC that runs 32bit Windows 7. A laptop that runs ElementaryOS, another with Ubuntu loaded and two netbooks with 32bit Windows XP.
      At work, I have a admin locked down 32bit Windows XP work station and Mac running old OSX.

      So, how do you see "Unification" and Lima would help in this case? Don't tell me to update my OS or hardware, my family are happy with them.

    31. Creator TC 2 days ago

      @David
      At best 24 a day in total? Given their track records, they might just missed the word "Working". It could be "By the end of the month, we aim at shipping a Lima device every WORKING hour", and France has a relatively short one.

    32. Creator David Ward-Penny 2 days ago

      @CGC if the kickstarters money was spent to build the device, could you please use some of the US$2.5 million Romain Lavault from Partech Ventures gave you in June to find my refund instead please. I company must have funds as you are "solid" and currently hiring staff.

      Could you also please explain what went wrong with your distribution partnership?

      March 13 - "We’ve partnered with logistics experts in the United States and in Europe to have an automatic service that is able to ship hundreds of products the same day with a high quality level."
      April 21st - "By the end of the month, we aim at shipping a Lima device every hour" - so at best 24 a day in total.

    33. Creator andreas dahl-hansen 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      30. Andreas Dahl-Hansen
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    34. Creator Gabriel de la Pena 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      29. Gabriel de la Pena
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    35. Creator Daniel Arevalo 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      28. Daniel Arevalo
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    36. Creator Francisco Javier Dianderas Caceres 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      27. Francisco Dianderas
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    37. Creator Johnny 2 days ago

      It's funny these idiots keep comparing themselves to a hardware company when they didn't developer any hardware. You guys borrowed someone else's invention so stop saying you are a hardware company!! The only crap you developed are lies and bullshit to the backers that supported you. Karma is a bitch Severin.

    38. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      26. Adam Doig (added by request)
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    39. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      Asking your paying customers to sign an NDA *AFTER THE FACT* takes it to a whole new level -- especially on dead technology that has already been beaten to market by several years.

    40. Creator Ian R 2 days ago

      @oxy
      get a load of items #5 and #6- it takes "cover your ass" to a new level. Why anyone would give up their rights to hold CGC responsible for a poor product is beyond reason.. and remember this is just a "beta".

    41. Creator Benjamin Eick 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      25. Benjamin Eick
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    42. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      Here is the link to the NDA:

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/251329793/Lima-Beta-Testing-Agreement

      Note: 2.5 and 7: You cannot comment on the device or software without approval, and even if you get approval, Lima *OWNS THOSE COMMENTS* and has the legal right to control them, and clause 12 says that Lima will have those rights forever, even after the expiration of the NDA.

      Really.

    43. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      They actually posted the NDA a while back. It's draconian enough to say that if you post any comments about the device (other than a simple unboxing) without prior approval of Lima, you are in violation -- which means all the negative opinions the beta testers have posted were either OK'd by Lima, or the experience was so bad, they were willing to violate the NDA.

    44. Creator Brian 2 days ago

      What if I sign your NDA agreement but then changed my mind and just smashed the Lima with a hammer and posted it on YouTube? Would that be in violation of the NDA?

    45. Creator Brian 2 days ago

      What if I sign your NDA agreement but then I changed the scope of my beta test after I received the Lima and decided to show and tell everyone how the software works. Would that be violation of the NDA?

    46. Creator Brian 2 days ago

      What would happen if I signed your NDA agreement, but then sent the Lima to someone else to test that didn't sign an NDA? Would that be in violation of the NDA?

    47. Creator charles-etienne jamme 2 days ago

      I confirm this is the worst KS project ever for me

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      24. Charles-etienne jamme
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

    48. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      @sech

      About the quality we have come to expect from this joke of a project.

      I sure am eager to trust *MY* data to a bunch of hack-jobs that can't even get a website to work. /sarcasm

    49. Creator ozymandias (ZionEyez,CGC Scam victim) 2 days ago

      Consolidated List of People Wanting A Lima device Refund
      ---------------------------------------------------
      *Add Your Name If You Want Your Money Back*
      ---------------------------------------------------
      Please copy-and-paste this list, including the header above, and this preamble, and add your Kickstarter username to the top of the numbered section.
      Over the months, many people in these forums have publicly requested a refund from CGC Team ie. Severin Marcombes (CEO) and Gawen Arab-Laffon (CTO).
      These requests have been easy to miss, because there are thousands of comments.
      Also, whenever someone Googles this product, or its originators, this list appears in the search results. A case of "reaping what you sow".
      23. Siqi Damien Liu
      22. Daniel Wolpert(added due to request for refund)
      21. Jason Bond (added due to request for refund)
      20. Casey Allen
      19. John
      18. Michael Reiter
      17. Ikalios
      16. kokobin
      15. Brian Carter
      14. Kjell Provost
      13. Keith Anderson
      12. Dongjin Kim
      11 Geert
      10. Brandon Williams
      9. Ian R
      8. TC
      7. Chris Lewis
      6. Derya
      5. TaylorWatson
      4. KC
      3. Ozymandias (already managed to get shipping refunded)
      2. Max Metz
      1. Rey Espinueva

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