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Another month has passed. Just another drop in the sea of the time that the game will not come out.
Hi there, just wondering what the process would be for me to get a key at this point?
I backed the game during it's kickstarter and then sort of forgot about it in the mean time, but since it's now playable I'd like to mess around with it.
>>Just get a refund...
You got a refund, as I recall. ;-)
>>The game is never coming out. They're going to run out of money; downsize, then close up shop.
You've been claiming that for HOW long now? A broken clock is correct more often than you have been.
>>It was due to be delivered Nov 2014. It's now Jan 2017
We had a vote due to the surprising success of the funding (that still keeps pouring in!) in which we elected for going for the full game at release rather than taking the E:D "smaller chunk at a time" route. Darn that Chris Roberts for listening to his community! I realize you have never tried to listen to anyone but yourself so this has caused a lot of consternation for you. Banning and living in a hug box has worked so well for you, obviously, which is why you are the... person you are today.
>>even the 3.0 patch which was "coming on or before Dec 19, 2016" when they were making tech demos under the guise of progress, is no longer in the Q1/2017 schedule...
One step at a time. The 2.6.1 schedule is up. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report
Next is 2.6.2 and then 3.0. I know you like to do the "wishlist" method for your hobby project that languishes in forgotten purgatory (only how many years overdue now while sprinting through that last mile?), so it isn't surprising you don't appreciate how a real game company handles such things. Or industry practices. Or industry terminology.
I will just leave this here in case anyone makes the mistake of thinking you are someone with actual authority or credibility: https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/
After all... didn't you die on that little hill you made claiming Star Marine wasn't in 2.6?
Anyway, when 3.0 comes out, I assume you will snap harder than you did over your failed 2.0 claims a year ago. Priceless. If so, well, thanks for over 2 decades of laughs at least! 8-)
Just get a refund. Unless you backed it for an amount that you feel is payment enough for what you have received thus far.
The game is never coming out. They're going to run out of money; downsize, then close up shop.
It was due to be delivered Nov 2014. It's now Jan 2017, and even the 3.0 patch which was "coming on or before Dec 19, 2016" when they were making tech demos under the guise of progress, is no longer in the Q1/2017 schedule.
And no word of Squadron42 either.
More info on how to apply for a refund:
that's pretty much how i see it too Arrakisdef. They will be "working on it" til the cash runs out, then they'll dump whatever they have and call it a day
Obligatory, another year has passed and this game is basically a cash grab scam and will never be released.
hahaha that livestream fucking killed me
they have NOTHING. there is no game.
ret a refund, citizen:
Oh, joy! Another shitty alpha that they refuse to inform their kickstarter backers about. And its only (insert number of years) later then the game was supposed to be released.
Alpha 2.6 due to drop next week. Lots of goodies.
Another day, another... no game.
Is this thing ever going to get developed?
How is the vaporware software going? ;-)
@Cyco-Dude Oh, I am so sorry that I am pointing out that Cloud Imperium Games Corporation is continually breaking Kickstarter Terms of Service for creators. I'm sorry that I want an update on a game that is years late? I'm sorry that I don't want to sign into a site that was made specifically so that their company could try and legally worm their way out of providing what peopel pay for? I'm sorry that they are a piece of shit company?
No update in over three and a half years. I will continue to post here, because this is where THEY are supposed to post.
Cyco-Dude: I'll post here _and_ ask about a release day. Take that! :)
On the bright side, I only contributed $30.
counterpoint: people should post here because cig should be shamed everywhere for going back on every promise en route to squandering $130 million and counting
stop posting here; this is not going to be updated again, ever. cig used it only for the duration of their kickstarter campaign. you have been told this over and over. you can go to their website for all the info:
...and don't bother asking about release dates; there is no answer. even if there was one, cig wouldn't hit it anyway (unfortunately).
Years and years and years....
the venerable dr. smart backed here on kickstarter
how do you think he is able to post here
I find it funny that derek says he's an original backer in 2015 cause mine was 2012
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and i thought citcon 2015 was funny
citizencon indeed lol
i got a refund, and you can too!
lol, people still post here?
What a ripoff
How is Line of Defence doing these days ?
Must be galling to see so much effort and finesse and detail in a project,that you could not achieve and your only recourse is to troll and harass another developer and community.
Now if you could actually produce something decent again something like BattleCruiser then you get my attention but it seems you put more effort into vitriolic comments and untruths than anything else,pity you wasted any talent you had on this near insane crusade don't you think. ?
In case you folks haven't heard, as predicted, Squadron 42 isn't coming out in 2016
Desperate times calls for desperate measures eh Derek? :)
Oh btw you have no say here. You can't ban me here like you did on steam and twitter.
Go back to your little irrelevant bubble on twitter and leave the rest of us alone who supported this game to succeed not fail like you want it to.
I can't believe you kept your jealously of Chris Roberts going for the last 26 years ever since Chris beat you to the punch with Wing Commander. So sad. Time to move on old man.
Yeah, because insulting me because you don't like people posting the truth about the project, has worked out so very well thus far. If that's your plan, then this is probably going to sting a bit.
@Derek: Oh you are such a clown. :) I am a happy camper, game will be as promised and I am enjoying it as we speak. You just can't adjust to a crowdfunded game, that is your problem, not the games. Also if I had to list all the contradictions you make, I had to write such a wall of text that this comment section will be too small to name it all.
@Derek Smart, A year ago you were entertaining, but as of late I worry for you. Your arguments are seeming less and less cogent by the day. I would like to urge you to seek mental health experts. Understand, this is not meant as a slam, I just think you're overly obsessed about getting an apology.
@Derek Just wanted to say thanks for those commenting here, about two weeks ago I got my refund after following the suggestions in those posts.
I was an original backer of this project. Back in July 2015, after looking deeper into the project, I came to the conclusion that not only were they way in over their heads, but that the increased scope had ensured that the project, as pitched, could NEVER be built. I still stand by that opinion; even as $120 million and 2 years overdue, the project is still not even 15% completed.
I have written a series of blogs about this project since then.
By all accounts, they are not likely to complete it. Even as Chris is now talking about shipping a Minimal Viable Product, then building on top of that. That is a complete contradiction of the project most of us backed here on Kickstarter.
Since July 2015, the more hardcore fans who are waging a war of attrition across the Internet in an attempt to quash any/all dissent, have taken upon themselves to engage in all manner of attacks and harassment.
Through my efforts, as well as those of others, the June ToS which wiped out two key provisions that us backers had, made it possible for anyone to ask for, and obtain a refund.
If you feel that you were misled, that the project as-is now, is not what you were pitched, or you wish to enforce the promised Nov 2014 ship date; which, even with an 18 months leeway for delays has now come and passed, you SHOULD ask for a refund. They have NO legal excuse to deny it. You won't get refunded for gifted items or subs; but anything else is 100% subject to a refund. It is YOUR right as a consumer. Exercise it.
And whatever you do, try not to engage in any of the discourse that the aforementioned "fans" engage in. It's a losing, time wasting effort. Just get a refund and go spend the money on another game.
CIG doesn't send updates through Kickstarter. They have their own site, and you were instructed around 4 years ago to link your Kickstarter there.
They have weekly updates, video and text, about what's happening. The game is in Alpha and playable. They just shared whats coming in the 3.0 release and it's mind blowing awesome.
Check out their site (robertsspaceindustries.com) and their YouTube channel (Star Citizen) to get up to date.
Very great stuff.
The scope of the game naturally changed when they raised many many millions of dollars.
Years and years and some amount of days. I really wish I could stop having to remind them of this.
THIS will NEVER be FINISHED..
A few days ago, I received an email from CIG stating that they were refunding me my pledge ($37).
Further to your recent communications, we have discussed this internally and decided that it would be mutually beneficial to close your account in accordance with your request.
Your orders are all outside of the time frame that our system allows us to refund, therefore we will need you to provide us with your Paypal email address so that we can return the funds as a manual "Send Money" request, thank you.
Sometime around the beginning of this year, I opened a ticket with CIG to request a refund, pointing out the 2 year clause. It was denied ( see my earlier comments on this page for details ) with their standard bullshit about 'unearned' crap. I gave up for a while, until a few months later, where I filed a complaint to the AG office in WA, based off the template that was provided by Derek Smart.
Some time afterwards ( a few days ago), I got the email from CIG above, and gave them my paypal details, and they have transferred the funds over.
I am not sure what made them change their mind, but they did reply to me via their ticket system, so it looks like filing a complaint was an important step. I also filed complaints to both the BBB and AG, so some pressure there couldn't hurt.
I'm happy to finally get away from this whole train wreck, and wish everyone else the best of luck in getting their rightful refunds as per the TOS.
hahaha it finally starts unravelling for good with the streetroller refund saga
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I could have bought a lot of noodles for $40.
Thankfully it's only 30$ down the toilet for me.
Absolutely do NOT agree to the new ToS if you ever want a refund and/or financial accountability.
what a train wreck
definitely dont go to their website if you can avoid it because their new terms-of-service is incredible
not that it'd hold up in court, but holy lol
@Silver Fox, what @Martin Norland posted isn't exactly a good place to look. Anything vaguely asking a question about release dates, concerns, or anything that isn't "OMG STARCITIZEN YAY" gets removed from the subreddit and robertsspaceindustries forums.
@Silver Fox go here:
@Silver Fox Nothing has happened. They continue to "sell" models of ships and not get anywhere with the game. They have a shitty hanger you can walk around in, and a barely functional flying sim.