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150 million dollar scam
"game is not going to be pay to win" what a joke cant believe I backed this
@Joel in your Kickstarter Package is included Squadron 42 and the MMO. In February 2016 they devided SC in two packages. But thats only for new pledges. Not for the old ones.
So, wait. I haven't booted up the client in three years, but looking now it seems like you have to pledge for Squadron 42 separately?
All I wanted out of this project was another Wing Commander, and that was what I pledged for, now it looks like all I'm getting is some kind of overambitious MMO which I have little interest in, but not the Wing Commander part?
lol, now 3.0 is gonna be a year later than they promised, with none of the features it was supposed to have, and they admit that the game will "ship" with 95% less content than promised, and the stalwarts applaud it
star citizen is funny as hell
get help here. my refund was pretty painless
i've asked them for a refund multiple times over a period of prob 2 years and they always have told me to go pound sand. they're thieves, as far as i'm concerned and i really expected more from Chris Roberts.
Hyperbole and speculation does not a coherent argument make.
But nothing about you is coherent.
"a little extra money?" what happened to the $153+ million backers already gave them?
and you think a broken test bed with no features and ships/characters that constantly jitter through walls, which craps out when more than five players are together in an instance resembles a game? lol
What risk? If they can't deliver they lose the IP, yeah. But if they can't deliver there isn't a game so the IP is worthless to them anyway.
They wanted to dump a little extra money into "Squadron 42" and took the equivalent of a payday advance - NOT a payday loan.
If the game goes POOF! before the date when they'd get the tax rebate from the UK government normally, they lose the IP. If that doesn't happen, well, nothing changes. They keep getting the tax rebate like usual and the IP is no longer collateral.
As for "nothing resembling a game" you're completely full of it and you know it.
You hate "Star Citizen," I get it. But you're peddling a nothingburger story.
CIG took an advance on a tax rebate THEY WERE ALREADY GOING TO RECEIVE.
Hell, you don't even know what the definition of 'loan' is because a 'loan' implies the thing being loan would be returned. Or else it's not a loan.
Like this is not a loan. But an advance.
yeah, it's totally normal to risk your entire company for the equivalent of a payday loan
they couldn't possibly be in dire financial straits after six years and a burn rate of 3-4 million a month, with nothing resembling a game on the horizon
Nevermind, SavageHenry, I found it. And it's much ado about nothing.
The relevant portion:
"In a statement posted on the game's official forum, CIG co-founder Ortwin Freyermuth stepped up to explain the financial issue. Freyermuth's explanation? It was simply an advance on the UK government tax rebate CIG receives every month for the development of sister project Squadron 42."
I pulled my money because of slow development and my own personal financial issues. But there's no sense in blowing things out of proportion.
"i'd advise anyone on the fence to get a refund asap. they just had to secure a loan by putting the entire company and the star citizen ip up as collateral."
derek smart was right. about everything. and chris roberts will never live it down.
i'd advise anyone on the fence to get a refund asap. they just had to secure a loan by putting the entire company and the star citizen ip up as collateral.
if by some improbable miracle a game ever comes out, you can always buy it at that time. your chances of getting your money back for this farce are rapidly diminishing, however.
"I am thankful that CIG is not pushing back on refunds. It proves Derek Smart is wrong; a company short on cash doesn't return money without a fight."
in most countries they are required to give refunds because no product has been delivered. all a refund proves is that they have the cash to cover it and consider the cost of the refund to be lest than the cost of defending a lawsuit.
I contacted CIG customer service and they facilitated my refund efficiently. I'm now just waiting for the funds to get deposited in PayPal.
I don't wish the game ill (as some seem to), but I feel it has been long enough. The project turned into something I'm not interested in as time went on and funding grew. I wanted a new "Wing Commander", not a new "Privateer".
I am thankful that CIG is not pushing back on refunds. It proves Derek Smart is wrong; a company short on cash doesn't return money without a fight.
Especially not the amount a concierge member commits.
Arrakisdef No scam here, you're just not looking in the right place for updates. http://www.robertspaceindustries.com and https://www.youtube.com/user/RobertsSpaceInd and https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd all have updates on daily and weekly basis.
I backed this game in October 2012, I am backer #9,907. The estimated release date at that time was November 2014. I am writing this in May 2017.
I only wanted to show where somebody who is interested in the project can find the updates
I don't know what you are referring to @Torsten Straeten, but Kickstarter has a contractual obligation to hold its creators to its Terms of Service.
Updates can be found at www.robertsspaceindustries.com.
Kickstarter is always not interested in solving problems with scam.
I wanted to continue to remind everyone that this is a scam. And Kickstarter will take no responsibility or acceptance in its part in the role.
Maybe the game will come out. Maybe it won't. I doubt it was a scam. I think everyone had great intentions but maybe not a realistic plan.
Despite insisting that feature creep was not a contributing factor to the game's lateness, it sure seems that way.
I honestly think that if the game comes out, if ever, it will come out at a point where I will no longer care to play it. My memories of Freelancer have faded and I'm not a pirate so I have no access to a copy of the game I once loved so dearly.
It was a nice dream, and even if it becomes a reality to everyone else, for me it will likely remain just a dream.
Yes, I get that it is a big, involved game with lots of design and tech. It would just be nice to get an update to confirm that it is actually still happening. 4 years between updates is not really understandable.
This project is the most monumental effort of modern game design. I honestly think it will take 2 more years for Star Citizen the MMORPG to reach a truly complete stage. Yes alot longer than expected but if you compare to MMORPGs of the past, it takes years to balance a game even after release.
Star Citizen crosses more technical challenges than five of those games on its own. Its fidelity, game mechanics, intricacy and complexity are shaping up to be something history will remember.
This is the most high fidelity virtual space ever created, and as someone who does research in simulation learning & VR technology I can tell you this is worth the massive investment of time we are all making, to push forward human technology in VR.
- Original backer #28,000 Nov 2012.
Another month is out with no updates.
Another month has passed. Just another drop in the sea of the time that the game will not come out.
Hi there, just wondering what the process would be for me to get a key at this point?
I backed the game during it's kickstarter and then sort of forgot about it in the mean time, but since it's now playable I'd like to mess around with it.
>>Just get a refund...
You got a refund, as I recall. ;-)
>>The game is never coming out. They're going to run out of money; downsize, then close up shop.
You've been claiming that for HOW long now? A broken clock is correct more often than you have been.
>>It was due to be delivered Nov 2014. It's now Jan 2017
We had a vote due to the surprising success of the funding (that still keeps pouring in!) in which we elected for going for the full game at release rather than taking the E:D "smaller chunk at a time" route. Darn that Chris Roberts for listening to his community! I realize you have never tried to listen to anyone but yourself so this has caused a lot of consternation for you. Banning and living in a hug box has worked so well for you, obviously, which is why you are the... person you are today.
>>even the 3.0 patch which was "coming on or before Dec 19, 2016" when they were making tech demos under the guise of progress, is no longer in the Q1/2017 schedule...
One step at a time. The 2.6.1 schedule is up. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report
Next is 2.6.2 and then 3.0. I know you like to do the "wishlist" method for your hobby project that languishes in forgotten purgatory (only how many years overdue now while sprinting through that last mile?), so it isn't surprising you don't appreciate how a real game company handles such things. Or industry practices. Or industry terminology.
I will just leave this here in case anyone makes the mistake of thinking you are someone with actual authority or credibility: https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/
After all... didn't you die on that little hill you made claiming Star Marine wasn't in 2.6?
Anyway, when 3.0 comes out, I assume you will snap harder than you did over your failed 2.0 claims a year ago. Priceless. If so, well, thanks for over 2 decades of laughs at least! 8-)
Just get a refund. Unless you backed it for an amount that you feel is payment enough for what you have received thus far.
The game is never coming out. They're going to run out of money; downsize, then close up shop.
It was due to be delivered Nov 2014. It's now Jan 2017, and even the 3.0 patch which was "coming on or before Dec 19, 2016" when they were making tech demos under the guise of progress, is no longer in the Q1/2017 schedule.
And no word of Squadron42 either.
More info on how to apply for a refund:
that's pretty much how i see it too Arrakisdef. They will be "working on it" til the cash runs out, then they'll dump whatever they have and call it a day
Obligatory, another year has passed and this game is basically a cash grab scam and will never be released.
hahaha that livestream fucking killed me
they have NOTHING. there is no game.
ret a refund, citizen:
Oh, joy! Another shitty alpha that they refuse to inform their kickstarter backers about. And its only (insert number of years) later then the game was supposed to be released.
Alpha 2.6 due to drop next week. Lots of goodies.
Another day, another... no game.
Is this thing ever going to get developed?
How is the vaporware software going? ;-)
@Cyco-Dude Oh, I am so sorry that I am pointing out that Cloud Imperium Games Corporation is continually breaking Kickstarter Terms of Service for creators. I'm sorry that I want an update on a game that is years late? I'm sorry that I don't want to sign into a site that was made specifically so that their company could try and legally worm their way out of providing what peopel pay for? I'm sorry that they are a piece of shit company?
No update in over three and a half years. I will continue to post here, because this is where THEY are supposed to post.
Cyco-Dude: I'll post here _and_ ask about a release day. Take that! :)
On the bright side, I only contributed $30.
counterpoint: people should post here because cig should be shamed everywhere for going back on every promise en route to squandering $130 million and counting
stop posting here; this is not going to be updated again, ever. cig used it only for the duration of their kickstarter campaign. you have been told this over and over. you can go to their website for all the info:
...and don't bother asking about release dates; there is no answer. even if there was one, cig wouldn't hit it anyway (unfortunately).
Years and years and years....
the venerable dr. smart backed here on kickstarter
how do you think he is able to post here
I find it funny that derek says he's an original backer in 2015 cause mine was 2012
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and i thought citcon 2015 was funny
citizencon indeed lol