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How hard would it have been to copy and paste the message in the website into the form of an update for your initial backers.... wait to go y’all
so guys, this was on the website: http://braeon.com/
"November 20, 2017
Dear Braeön Supporters:
The last of the components of our first production machine were delivered (finally) on October 17 th . Assembly was completed on November 2nd , debugging and product testing took place over the past 10 days. Some minor “tweaking” remains, but production began on November 13th and product shipments will begin this week! One important fact you should know is that the ribbon being produced has a strength rating of 1000 lbs. The Kickstarter video makes a claim that “one single ribbon resists over 2500 Lbs of pull strength”. A single length of ribbon was fashioned into a double loop in the test so it was really 4x which showed a force reading of 3205 Lbs. We admit that was a bit misleading. To make it up to you we will ship double the amount you signed up for. Those of you who signed up for a challenge to video your attempt to break a 6 foot loop, we are sending you 20 feet to fashion whatever size loop you wish. What we don’t want is for anyone to get injured in the process so PLEASE be careful.
Shipping was prepaid by all of you. All other non U.S. locations may be responsible for payment of duties, if any. We consider all products that fulfill Kickstarter program supporters as samples and therefore will have a declared value of $2.00 USD. Stay tuned to the Braeön website for a “SHOP” option www.braeon.com.
Thank you for all your patience and enthusiasm. We want to hear from you and how you have used Braeön. We will be emailing everyone with more details over the next few months.
If a sale of the co then a refund of $75k would not be too difficult and then we can buy it for half the price when it hits stores.
oh-well guess I'll just need to carry something which is as equally useful for getting out of a bind in the wilderness.... a SAT phone. I did so want to use $30 of cool material to fix a $2 axe handle and the concept of lifting great weights with a bit of plastic seemed so necessary at the start of the campaign.
Pretty lame folks.
Give up folks I don’t believe we will get any further updates or anything period. They sold the company to someone else who most likely won’t honour our pledges. I’m going to chalk this one up as scam, be it intentional or not.
Any update would be fantastic
It would be very reassuring at this point if we had even a small video
What should creators do if they're having problems completing their project?
If problems come up, creators are expected to post a project update explaining the situation. Sharing the story, speed bumps and all, is crucial. Most backers support projects because they want to see something happen and they'd like to be a part of it. Creators who are honest and transparent will usually find backers to be understanding.
It's not uncommon for things to take longer than expected. Sometimes the execution of the project proves more difficult than the creator had anticipated. If a creator is making a good faith effort to complete their project and is transparent about it, backers should do their best to be patient and understanding while demanding continued accountability from the creator.
If the problems are severe enough that the creator can't fulfill their project, creators need to find a resolution. Steps should include offering refunds, detailing exactly how funds were used, and other actions to satisfy backers.
At least proove with pictures what is going on - perhaps a picture of the extruder, the fibers or the polymer granulate?
It’s officially the 15th in all time zones, where in the bloody hell is the update?
No response to the Peöns. They deserve nothing!
Still crickets... Come on folks!
I look forward to your next update on or shortly after the November 15th mark.
I'll be honest, I'm hoping this succeeds enough to get a filament version.
All I hear are crickets @creators
Take this with a grain of salt.
On 11/3 they responded to my badgering them for info regarding production after they said "We are pleased with the production that is ongoing.", with "We are producing".
So they're supposedly making tape, but they refused to give any more info on the subject when I asked them to post an update answering questions posted here in the comments, along with pictures.
They just replied with "Ben, Our production process and a variety of metrics are proprietary. Thank you for your interest.".
It's so nice when Creators get uptight about proving they're actually doing anything.
@Leduc. Not saying it is sufficient but the latest update said "Production will begin on or before November 15th and deliveries will begin shortly after that." That means production won't start for more than another week.
6 months past the estimated delivery date. Could we get an update as to when this is going to ship?
@Braeon could we have an update please ?
@Blackhart any project which is still working toward rewarding the backers no matter how late is better than any project which never delivered a product or a refund to all backers (excluding negligent backers). Any project that partially delivered is better than a project that delivered nothing.
@Eryk worst run Kickstarter. Phree digital pen. Supposed to be released March 2016 and they recently told backers after receiving 1.5million and successful funding that they are still looking for investors and further funding or we get nothing. Needless to say I'm not buying anything more on Kickstarter. Hope I get my Braeon, I wanted to give it to my Dad for Christmas.
@blackhart - suspect unlikely. So that hockey stick and axe you plan on fixing might have to wait.
Even the Braeon bear is yawning.
@Eryk I’ve been following Munitio too and agreed that one is a shocker! These guys will no doubt be in that category if they aren’t careful, only time will tell...
@Marcella nah, most poorly ran Kickstarter I've seen is the Pro30s Munitio one so far which says they are trying to get it out by end of year... And the original anticipated delivery date was around 2 years ago
Are we getting our rewards before Christmas?
Thanks @BenG for that info, the team really should be putting that out as an update or at the very least in the comments. This has got to be one of the most pathetically run campaigns I’ve seen. Not quite ready to call this one scam but getting frustratingly close due to the horrendous lack of involvement of who ever is actually running this project now.
So why aren’t they posting this info to their backers? Very poor communication.
I've recommended that they post this here, but since they're not going to, I'll share it.
We should (meaning there's no reason we shouldn't) be seeing something soon.They've sent me the following messages over the last few days.
Oct 23 2017
Things are going well. Alignment and leveling should be finished today. We should start pushing resin through the system tomorrow if we have no unanticipated issues.
Oct 25 2017
We have a couple of shorts to fix due to transportation issues, but they should be up and going today.
I'm still waiting to hear if they've gotten the line up and running yet.
@deepseamdv - I think you will be pretty safe, delivery may be a long way off.
I’m expecting to use this type of product once it is in the shelves of the hardware store under a different brand, most likely made by someone else in China.
If you're going to deliver in the nwxt 30 days my address is correct. After that it will need to be changed. Let me know.
I got an email to confirm my mailing address. Progress.
@Nizar&Jill "Production will begin on or before November 15th and deliveries will begin shortly after that." The latest update covers this.
Not sure what's going on with you guys. So update or refund. You're 5 months late.
What's the word on this?
Keep up the good work guys! Still looking forward to the product!
So who is ResinFibers LLC now? What happened to Braeon Inc.?
So you took the money we gave Braeon Inc under a contract, and now moved it to a new company that doesn't have a contract with the backers?
Where is this new company registered? Who are the owners/board for the company?
I spoke with Dustin MacWilliams with Braeon a few minutes ago. This product is not dead. It seems like the task of updating the Kickstarter page has been handed off to another person, or team to manage. He said he will get a note to them to make sure they are more communicative with us. I expressed how communication is key for KS projects since it's really all we backers have as a communication medium. I don't want to misrepresent what he said, but from what I understand, they have produced some product, and have made a couple tweaks to it. They anticipate producing more product after these tweaks in 2 weeks. I didn't ask about shipping for us backers, but I hope this is addressed in any updates upcoming. Hope this helps.
@ Lars nope no refund. This is the first time Ive been scammed so far on kickstarter. I guess I will have to write tjis off as a stupidity tax. Jope my other backings are more reliable. Live and learn and all that.
Did you get the equipment? Is it set up? Are you currently in production? Have you sent the product and we are all going to be pleasantly surprised this week?????????????
Is anybody home there?
Update, or refund!!!
You can't get a fucking refund from kickstarter. Jesus Christ.
If you want to try and get some communication going, you can report this project to kickstarter. But don't really expect KS to do much of anything. Once they get paid, they really don't seem to care. You can at least say you tried. :) Go to the Campaign tab, scroll down to the bottom and click "Report this project to Kickstarter". There is a choice for lack of communication.
Requested a refund over a week ago...haven't gotten any response. Poor communication continues. Anyone else having refund issues?
I'm now getting too old from waiting to go adventuring and building emergency huts with my bare hands.The technology behind this won't be too complex, sure there will be an alternative soon enough. Bit of a shame really, cool videos though (and that is the important thing).
Well here we go again, it's been a month since the last update looks like we are going to have to bully the creators into giving us another one. I'm just chalking this one up as a 'good idea but we really can't make it work' campaign. Would like to be proved wrong...
The lack of communication is giving me a bad feeling about this one. Too many times when the creators go AWOL, there's something fishy.