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For someone with the world on his shoulders, Atlas sure is nimble.
I'll ask the Spiders and get back to you on your question.
Latest robot video from Boston Dynamics. Can we teach the Hexbot this stunt?
Hey Brad! Just stopping by. Thinking good thoughts for you and your people.
Eddie and Matthew, thanks for checking in and for your patience. We'll post an update soon.
any news on progress?
I hope the IR blasters have shipped (and arrived). Looking forward to some quality time with these and my son over the Christmas break. Do you have any further news (good or otherwise) on progress? It's been a few weeks since your last post. Hope all is well.
Once again Brad, especially in Kickstarter, communication is all important and you and your company get an A+. Hopefully, you will find your missing parts soon. I am really looking forward to this product for me and my son! Wishing you good luck and sending good thoughts!
Thanks for the update. Please keep us posted.
Hi, Edward. Thanks for checking in. I'll post an update very shortly.
The short of it is that the IR blasters do appear to have been lost in shipment. That's news as of today, coming from Singapore Post, and we're checking with the supplier FastTech about next steps. Our fingers are crossed that FastTech will consider Singapore Post's information as an official determination of the shipment getting lost, at which point they should reship another set to us (and we'll choose a faster, more reliable shipping option).
The missing IR blasters have been the biggest wildcard regarding our timeline. There are a couple of other aspects that are still being wrapped up (decals and software), which I'll describe more in the update. But the project has moved from once being a juggling act of getting many components to come together to, now, simply getting the last few items finished.
I'm sorry to share this news. We'd really hoped to be one of the Kickstarter campaigns that *does* deliver on time. But please be assured that we're making progress and will keep pushing to deliver the robots as soon as we can. We're grateful for whatever patience you grant us.
How did your luck hold out? Do you have a status on the project?
Looking forward to an update.
Hi Brad, any further news or updates? Has there been any other issues? Is progress going according to plan?
We are looking forward to the outcome of the project.
Please continue posting updates for everyone. It's really nice to get some info frequently even if it's bad news and delays.
Thanks Brad. Dates aren't as important as your communication. As an engineer, I know your pain. I wish you luck on this campaign and hope you get no more unexpected surprises.
Hi, Edward. Thanks for checking in.
We're still on schedule for a late September delivery.
As I had been warned about hardware projects—even hardware-light ones like ours—we have had a surprise disappointment or two in getting the physical items we need from suppliers (e.g., that our IR blasters were no longer being manufactured, and we had to find a supplier with a bunch of them sitting in storage), but that merely used up a time buffer we had intentionally placed before shipping. We're still on pace as long as no further big surprises come.
Hi Brad! How are things going? We all still on schedule for delivery?
Thanks, Brian. The box is designed with a slanted top face. I don't have the exact measurements on me, but I think it's between 15 and 30 degrees from the table/counter surface. So the smart device's camera will almost point straight down, but it will be angled enough to look past the surface the box is on.
Great idea for the box. I would think straight down view is best but sounds like something just above horizontal works? Unless the box is 36" �
Update coming soon, indeed.
In the videos, we generated robot behavior with a combination of remote control—which allows for scripted scenes that illustrate features succinctly—and 1 or 2 autonomous scenes. If you want to know what functionality was already implemented during the campaign, you can get a good idea from this Kickstarter Live demo I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch….
Update coming soon I hope. Always interested on how a project gets launched.
Great article. This appears to be a new concept in AI making more human in appearance. What is actually being used in the videos with the hexbots demonstrations since the project is still in development phase. Currently autonomus control of some sort or more human guided puppeteer control. Thanks
Hi, Brian. If you haven't checked it out, I recommend our article on Medium: https://medium.com/mit-media-lab/building-character-ai-through-machine-learning-7a3159dc4940.
The robots are controlled by a model of a human developer who puppeteered/teleoperated a robot in many different situations. The model can answer the question: "In context X, what is the probability that the teleoperator would have given command Y?"
When a robot is acting based on the model, it is choosing what to do according to those probabilities, multiple times per second. So its behavior isn't random in the colloquial sense of the word—that it does every possible action with the same frequency—but it is random in the mathematical sense: the robot will often make different choices in the same situation, though those choices are still aligned with the frequency at which its model thinks the human developer would have made them in the current context.
Regarding the robots' learning through your teaching, we'll be excited to share more about how that works once it's finalized and confirmed to work intuitively through user testing.
Brad - hope to generate some more discussion with the group. I think this is an amazing project, like having a little Mars rover controlled by the phone. Still curious on 2 things.
1) Learning mode, your video mentions this too. Can you provide an update some day on what this does.
2) Still like to understand running the same routine multiple times. Will the Hexbot run the same routine each time? If different their is decision processes in play, or just random - but that still seems like a decision to me.
No rush, when you have time.
Hi, Brian. Thanks for your questions.
• We have no definitive plans to make Bots Alive robots learn from all its experience, outside the explicit teaching sessions during which they will learn. We're interested in this direction long-term, but combining (a) the algorithms that learn in this way (e.g., reinforcement learning algorithms) with (b) the need for them to be enjoyable to interact with is, to my knowledge, an unsolved engineering challenge (by us or anyone).
• I'd love to say we have the app complete 3 months ahead of time, but it's still in development and on schedule. ;)
I thought the group would be interested in your input. Does the Hexbot learn from its trials. If presented with the same obstacles multiple times, is the result random or does it improve its path? Also is the app complete at this time or in development? Thanks
Just checking in.....
Update sent. :)
Just checking back in on how things are going.
Brian and Andy, thanks!
Brian, thanks for checking in. I plan to send an update soon. In general, I'll try to send them approximately once a month.
Close to an update? Hopefully Hexbots have not taken over the office.
Congratulations and well done!
Congratulations. Good luck with the next phase of the project.
Some quick catch up.
SilverAnvil, the Battle Spiders have different IR codes, so they won't work unless we take the time to sniff out their signals. We might do that, but we can't promise it at this point. Do check in with us though!
Schaap, the add-on pack is 10 red obstacle blocks only.
Brian, I think I sent you a private message about this, but thanks for pushing us past $30K a few days ago!!!
just a question from your latest backer..
Does the add-on pack exists of red and blue or only red blocks?
Good luck with the awaiting fathership!
Brad, did Amazon come through? If so, any luck with the Battle Spiders? I'm hoping that they use the same IR Channel for movement as the regular Spiders and the other two channel is for the "laser gun" LED.
OK, just added on another Hexbug to get you over $30K. Stretch goal is possible!
Thank you for your swift reply! Your faq says very little about Android versions. I hope you post more about the Android app before the project finishes!
Hi, Amy. Thanks for your interest! I hope your devices will be covered. I'm guessing they're relatively old though if they're running a 5-year old version of Android.
Part of what we'll do in the next 7 months is optimizing our code; so while we know we can support recent devices, we won't know about older devices until later.
Our FAQ at the bottom of the Campaign page says some more on the topic.
Hi! I have a pile of these hexbug spiders, including the large Nerf version, but my device runs Android 4.2. Should I support your kickstarter? Will I be able to use the app?
Hey, all. This doesn't seem quite worthy of an Kickstarter update, but my first child is due to be born in 7 days. So if I go AWOL at some unannounced time, there's a good chance she's arriving early. (!!) I hope you'll forgive my absence if that happens.
I'll re-emerge within a few days, of course (as a proud father).
Hi, SilverAnvil. I love the idea of modding them. I'm guessing that the IR codes are different, since there are 4 IR channels on the Battle Spiders and 2 on the regular Spiders.
I'm ordering one to test myself (arrives Saturday if Amazon can be trusted).
On Jan 25th someone asked about using Hexbug® Battle Spiders. You said no because "the top of the Battle Spider is too uneven for easy usage of the robot decals." I'm curious if that's the only problem or if the infrared controller can't talk to them.
If it's just that their heads are to uneven, I might try modding them a bit - but if it's a problem with the controller then that's a different story.
Hi, David. We expect to support iOS 9. Please do check out our FAQ at the bottom of the "Campaign" page for more information about what devices will be supported.
Hi Brad Knox, I have several old iPhones and iPads devices which are max out at iOS 9 (or earlier) -- no longer support for iOS upgrades. I was wondering if you can make sure the iOS app will support older iOS 9 or earlier so that I can give my 6 and 8 year older to use.
Hi, Matthew. Thanks for asking. They do work well on carpet.
Check out some of the videos on our YouTube playlist to see for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/playlist…. You'll have to skip through videos with no carpet though.
Do the spiders move ok on carpet? Or do they have to be on a hard smooth surface?
got the word out on Bots_alive on another tech type project.
Thanks, Brian. Good idea. I'll try to do that next time.
Great live feed today. It is really unique to engage with creator directly. Just happened to find it while taking checking at lunch. Kickstarter live is something I had not see before. Will need to check out other projects. If you post in advance as an update then all the current supporters would get a heads up.
Hi, Jean. Thanks for pledging!
The option you're referring to is the 2 BOTS_ALIVE DOUBLE BOT KITS, which is two complete sets of two Hexbug Spiders and the bots_alive smartphone kit.
The four Spiders could not all be used together, controlled by the same smartphone, because they only have two infrared control channels. Instead, the usage I imagine for 2 BOTS_ALIVE DOUBLE BOT KITS is that two different people would each have one of the kits and two of the robots. So if you wanted one BOTS_ALIVE DOUBLE BOT KIT for yourself and one to give as a gift, that would be a good reason to get the 2 BOTS_ALIVE DOUBLE BOT KITS tier.