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So...It's 2018.... Nothing????
@John R. Troy,
Thanks for the info and update.
Just so you all know, the link Scott has is an outdated link to the court system--it's an older version. The new one requires authentication and isn't bookmarked, but it does show addition info--basically, it seems like the parties attorney's keep meeting, but it doesn't look like any notes are being taken, or any indication of how close we are to trial.
What a bitter disappointment this one has been. Years and no goods. I'm a patient dude but this is truly ridiculous. It's too bad because the result is that I will probably never give my money to Kickstart anything again. Fool me once...
@Bossman and Lance: My first project was "Nystul's Infinite Dungeon" so I totally feel you. At least this project still has some potential...
Came by to leave my yealry comment xD
@ John R. Troy you da mvp! Thanks for posting some info now and then
I love the "Be respectul and considerate" line below the "Post comment" button, I'd say the creators, or even cough*scammers*cough, of this project do not deserve such a thing...
The case is still moving at a heavily-encumbered speed. For those that didn't see the link to Kevin Smith's blog below, this link should show you the documents in the NY court system:
If the problems are severe enough that the creator can't fulfill their project, creators need to find a resolution. Steps should include offering refunds, detailing exactly how funds were used, and other actions to satisfy backers.
Court appearances continued on 2017-10-12, 2017-11-29, and 2017-12-13.
Appearance outcome of the October meeting is listed as "referred to chambers". Does that mean anything substantive?
The outcome is not (yet?) noted for the December appearance.
What happens if we all group together and sue them?
Is there any legal stand point for this?
I take it then, I have kissed goodbye to my money.
Campaigns like this one are the reason I stopped backing things on Kickstater.
Backing this project I rolled a natural 1, it seems...
Lance - me too!! Should have learnt my lesson then.
@John, thanks for checking.
@Mark, sadly I've been checking but there's no new document--just a meeting that happened in the middle of October with no details.
@ John R. Troy Do you have any links to updates on this? I'd page through the comments but it's difficult on mobile.
I want my copy of the film!
This holds the distinction of being the first KS project I ever backed (had never heard of KS until a friend pointed me to this project) and there it is at the bottom of my list, still unfulfilled.
I would like a refund at this point.
I didn't back this project to follow along through third party sources/not be informed directly about petty infighting among creatives. I'm sorry "the band" broke up, but I'm done with this project.
Can we get an update after the conference on the 12th
Is there anything happening with this Kickstarter or did we just throw money away?
It looks like according to what was just filed in court, there's a status conference that will double as a settlement conference on Oct 12th. So maybe this is about to get resolved and after that we can finally get some answers. Let's cross our fingers.
Looks like the original partners in the project all chose CHA as their lowest stat...
I ask for a refund the documentary has not been filmed
I want my money refunded.
I'm done with Kickstarter. It's a freakin' scam.
Hope you guys had fun with our money!
Some kind of update would be nice...
Status update please or money back
Same question here, what's happend to our pledged money? ʕʘ‿ʘʔ No further update over one year? It sounds lame...
So what has happened to the money? Surely this should be returned to the backers?
So whatever they wanna call it, someone conned me out of 260 bucks. My last kickstarter, period.
This documentary was a partnership by three people. After the Kickstarter was funded, the partnership soured. Two of the people involved created a second doc, "The Great Kingdom", and had a Kickstarter for it. It was funded but a lawsuit was filed around the same time, and an injunction required TGK to take down all their media including their Kickstarter page.
Since then, it's been in legal ever since. There was an attempt at a settlement back in 2015 but they couldn't work it out. The court also tried to force mediation. But it looks like it is going to trial--slowly. Based on what I can figure out in court docs, this is probably not going before the judge until the end of this year (if that).
Can someone give me a tl;dr of the whole legal situation?
So is this Dungeons & Dragons Documentary by Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films failed / in endless legal hell / will never be released / scam / ... ?
i never got the t shirt I asked but got no response Id at least like that for the $100 I put in anyone know how to at least it
Well, at least I got my Diesel print ... I figure that's better than nothing. Too bad ... I was really looking forward to seeing the film.
"Last login Jan 26 2016"
Well that's a not a good sign...
@John R. Troy you da MVP! :D
Thanks for giving us more info than the project creators.
Anyways, I've already written this thing off, I see no future with people who treat their backers this way keeping us in the dark... I have no nice thing to say about this project or the creators anymore.
I'd like a refund, but I don't think it's gonna happen.
Hey! Where's the documentary? Got nothing from you guys in well over a year or more. Cough up a documentary or refund our money!
Any update? It's been quiet for too long now...
Invested over 4 years ago, no product, no updates.
I say this is a scam.
No updates in over a year is incredibly inconsiderate to say the least. I know they're in litigation but we deserve some kind of respect. I'm done with Kickstarter, my wife got burned recently as well.
John R. Troy said: "That's the thing--we are not asking for any details of the project, or anything that would compromise any legal strategy.
We are simply asking for an update after going almost 16 months without any update. All that could be said would be something like "Sorry this is taking so long, we hope to go to trial by X date, and you're investment with us is safe". Just a paragraph or two to let us know that things are still progressing, etc.
For me it's not about the money I invested, it's a simple sign of respect to the people who contributed to this project. Being silent and even not answering emails about the project is a real bad sign."
This! You've got a group of backers that put down over a hundred thousand dollars for this thing, and haven't heard word one in over a year. That's more than just inconsiderate, it's shady. Do the right thing by your backers, and at least drop us a note every six months to say, still here, still working, so we know our money didn't just get sucked up by some scammers.
Being one of the backers, I really hope this project gets completed. Back in film school I did my own take on D&D and tabletop Role Playing games if anyone is curious. "Home Game: RPG Documentary" - https://youtu.be/IzuVdY1oURs
Well, in case anybody wants updates, there was a conference between the folks on 4/26/2017. There's some argument over "missing documents", and the next conference is scheduled for June 2, 2017.
The Notice of Issue is extended to 9/29/17--that is when they decide if everybody is ready to go to trial and then a trial date is set. Something tells me this won't be resolved until 2018.