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Dungeons & Dragons, a game that changed the world.
3,584 backers pledged $195,480 to help bring this project to life.

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    1. Creator SE Weaver 2 days ago

      Any news? It's time for an update, my friends.

    2. Creator Charles Ryan Fagan 3 days ago

      An update would be very welcome...

    3. Creator Alex Rosenwald on April 12

      Still waiting on an update...

    4. Creator Nathan Alvarez on April 12

      I donated $40 2 years ago And I never got my reward.... UPDATE?

    5. Creator Ben W Bell on April 5

      Any chance of an update?

    6. Creator David Culp on March 30

      An update would be nice.......

    7. Creator GLGamesMike on March 13

      Yes, another update is overdue. Would love to know where things stand now...

    8. Creator Blackout on March 12

      Hello.... I donated 15 a while back and never got the link to watch the digital download.... how do I see this thing already?

    9. Creator ANALOG GAMES on March 10

      What happened to Diesel LaForce Greyhawk print? I've never seen mine. Anyone else have one delivered?

    10. Creator davrion on February 27

      Thanks John!

    11. Creator John R. Troy on February 22

      You guys should probably e-mail him if you want an update--he usually responds to e-mail quickly, and he gave them in the last update (or suggest he post here, which is what I personally did last time). I doubt much can be said from his camp until some more progress occurs legally.

      As for those delays, the latest from those public court docs indicate that some of the arguments won't be dealt with until at least early march. I suspect there will be another month or so until we see any progress besides "time to extend answer to the complaints".

    12. Creator Mikel Muxika on February 21

      an update would be appreciated...

    13. Creator Scott Sheets on February 14

      Any news?

    14. Creator Scott Sheets on December 31

      Check out the KS page for "The Other Project"

      It currently blank with the text "XXXProjectXXX is the subject of an intellectual property dispute and is currently unavailable.

      Thanks for your patience."

    15. Creator John R. Troy on December 21

      For those interested, In case people were wondering about the lawsuit, it looks like 2 new documents appeared--filed the 17th but I just saw them Yesterday.

      The case was delayed...it looks like both parties agreed to alter the time of the motions to a later date, but the judge just ruled that the case for TGK to dismiss the suit was denied, and that in early February a preliminary hearing will be held. Nothing really indicates if there are still some settlement talks going on (very likely), or if the appeal is going through (more doubtful since those are harder to get). I suspect a lot of the silence here is based on these reasons. If the earlier documents are correct, I think the judge was supposed to review both films first so that would explain a lot of the silence here.

    16. Creator Scott Sheets on December 16

      Annnd.... over a month with no update or interviews. I like stating the obvious; it's my hobby.

    17. Creator RUESTCHMANN on December 12

      What "shortly" means to you [the film crew] ? more consideration via communication for backers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    18. Creator Corey on December 1

      Whoa! A lot of requests for updates, I feel like I'm at the DMV. I'll just take a ticket and wait in line for my 'update'.

    19. Creator Mikel Muxika on November 29

      Hi, it's been nearly a month since you have been working on an update, or that is what your last comment says, and over 3 months from the last update.
      I would appreciate some news...

    20. Creator Patrick Ciraco on November 25

      Hello. An update of some context, good or bad, would be a respectful and considerate action on Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Film's behalf. You have a lot of Backers here who believed in making this possible... if it can not be, then a reimbursement of funds is in order.

    21. Creator John R. Troy on November 24

      Just to add, I think the most frustrating thing about this type of thing is the lack of communication that occurs when a lawsuit happens, because of gag orders and the legal concept of "don't say anything more than you need to". While I've contributed to several Kickstarters that were both good and bad, this is the first one where there were legal elements involved that actually prevented the normal transparency process.

      I think Kickstarter should put something in the TOS to make sure folks can provide details to the backers when needed--that could be overridden by a judge but if there's a legal obligation placed in the TOS, the courts would take that into account.

      I also think Kickstarter should, rather than take a page down with a simple note, point or provide more information such as a link to a court case or at least a link to a PDF of the desist order, and give backers an update on the status of their funds.

    22. Creator John R. Troy on November 23

      I think we have to wait since there's obviously been a delay in the court process. No updates have been made from the public court interface since September 2014, which either means that the court has delayed or is going through a private process, or there's some serious arbitration / negotiations going on which require both parties to remain silent. (Either that or NY is slow in getting updates on the public interface).

      I doubt refunds can be given at this point since the money is already spent and the documentary has been previewed at GenCon.

    23. Creator Parzival on November 21

      We either need a serious update with some specifics or really, you should consider offering refunds. I was so excited about this, now i just feel ripped off and disappointed.

    24. Creator Alex Rosenwald on November 16

      Still waiting on an update...

    25. Creator Alarian DarkWind on November 14

      Since you managed to get the other project shut down, how about you finish this up and get it out so you can prove what they were saying about you wrong?

    26. Creator Alex Rosenwald on November 10

      Still waiting on an update...

    27. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on November 2

      Hi everyone. We are working on an update and will have it shortly. We will also be sharing some interview clips as well in the next couple weeks.

    28. Creator C. Scott Kippen on October 30

      Will I see a film? Or will my contribution become vaporware?

    29. Creator Steve Reinhart on October 23

      Can we have an update, please, on what is going on with this project?

    30. Creator Joseph Prozinski on October 20, 2014

      It's been a couple months now since the last update. Any word on the status? Will we see the documentary before the end of the year?

    31. Creator John R. Troy on September 15, 2014

      Yeah, I understand and didn't expect a comment--my sole purpose in posting is to let the backers know the potential progress of this unfortunate situation.

    32. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 14, 2014

      Thanks John,
      We can't comment at this point, I'm sure you understand.

      Best,
      Anthony

    33. Creator John R. Troy on September 14, 2014

      For those wondering, according to the court docs, both sides look like they're trying to work out a settlement--they suspended one of the defenses motions (the defense is trying to get the case dismissed and appeal the injunction). So it looks like either by October we'll have a settlement or the courts will still go through the process.

    34. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 12, 2014

      Thanks Speno. We will write an update soon.

    35. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 6, 2014

      Hey Robert,
      Sorry you are just finding out about this.
      The film has been delayed by many months by legal issues.
      We have a moral obligation to our funders to resolve this issue before raising more money. Feel free to read the court documents if you have any questions. They will have a lot of answers for you.
      Best, A

    36. Creator Robert Burke on September 5, 2014

      Were is the film? How ironic that a story of greed and lawsuits over a creative endeavor has become its own story of greed and lawsuits over a creative endeavor. Pathetic.

    37. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on August 11, 2014

      Hey Chris, We are trying our best and we appreciate your patience and everyone's patience.

      Thanks John for keeping abreast and even fro posting here. We've been so busy with so many aspects that sometimes a whole day goes by where I haven't checked here.

      Youseph, We couldn't agree more.

    38. Creator John R. Troy on August 11, 2014

      It would be nice if there could be an agreement but this is a breakup between two sets of partners, and the desire to see two films doesn't trump that consideration. But if the second film can't be completed hopefully they can refund the money to all the backers.

    39. Creator Youseph Tanha on August 11, 2014

      I would like to see both films completed. As a consumer, this whole thing sucks.

    40. Creator Chris Riedel on August 11, 2014

      I would like to point out that kickstarters routinely do not finish within projected deadlines, and that this alone is not sufficient reason to receive a refund.

      I am very grateful that the folks in charge here keep us up to date and attempt to be as forthright as possible. That is better treatment than I have received from several other kickstarters.

    41. Creator John R. Troy on August 8, 2014

      There's some interesting discussions about this at a facebook group.

      https://www.facebook.com/groups/635408873224761/

    42. Creator John R. Troy on August 7, 2014

      Actually, I don't think it's "good news" for this project. This lawsuit seems to also be dragging down this project from being completed. I can't really tell who's right or wrong based on all the court documents--it will be ultimately up to a judge to decide. I can only hope both parties make sure to take care of the backer money and keep it in some kind of escrow where it's affected.

    43. Creator David Culp on August 7, 2014

      Thanks for that link John! Interesting development for the other film. I thought the other project had posted at one point that the injunction was not successful, but maybe that was for something else.

      Good news for this project!

    44. Creator John R. Troy on August 5, 2014

      Kickstarter apparently doesn't like that link. Try this one.

      http://goo.gl/N9aqd0

    45. Creator John R. Troy on August 5, 2014

      In the interest on keeping transparency up, this project was successful in getting an injunction against the other project, which can be summed up here.

      https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument…==

      (I was going to post to both sites but Kickstarter took the other project down as part of the "no solicitation" part of the injunction).

    46. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on August 4, 2014

      Hey Vincent,
      We are working very hard to finish the film. I apologize for what has happened. There was a long delay as we tried to protect the film, not from ego or because of it, but to actually make it at all. We have been waiting to raise funds for over a year at this point because of the legal problems. None of us, and I think I can say this for everyone involved, wanted this. Please write to me personally if you want to talk.
      asavini@gmail.com

    47. Creator vincent on August 4, 2014

      I would like my investment of 1000 dollars back, because what I invested in didn't happen because of the egos of the people involved. A film was promised to be completed by May 2014. It is now August. Whatever legal issues are happening are not my concern nor do I care what effect it has had on finishing the film. Where is the promised film?

    48. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on July 28, 2014

      Hey Betty,
      We are currently in a legal battle with two of the ex-producers of this film. We are in the unfortunate situation of wanting to, needing to share with backers, but at the same time protecting the film.
      Hopefully at the end of the month we will be able to start sharing more. Seriously, it's been painful not to share and detrimental to the growth of the film, so we are looking to resolve the problems as soon as we can and hopefully share the clip. Write to me if you have any other questions. asavini@gmail.com.

    49. Creator Betty McNally on July 27, 2014

      I hope you don't mind my asking, but if you're showing the trailer at Gen Con to the public, you should be able to show it to your backers--especially those who cannot attend Gen Con. What's the difference?

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