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Dungeons & Dragons, a game that changed the world.
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    1. Creator RUESTCHMANN on May 24

      Thanks for your updates. I believe in the project. Keep your heads up!

    2. Creator John R. Troy on May 20

      The legal process may take a lot longer now. According to the latest court documents, a few which were filed on May 18-19, the defendants have refused to settle, and the attorneys for the defendants have formally requested to resign (giving their 30 days notice).

      https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument…==

      This is likely to get really bumpy...ugh...

    3. Creator John R. Troy on May 8

      @Cory Welch--they did an update 8 days ago...

    4. Creator Cory Welch on May 8

      Ditto - checking my older Kickstarter backings, $100 to this, it's raised almost $200K and we haven't had an update since 2014. Here. How about being "Respectful and Considerate" and give us a status on this project? I'm sure you can comment on something.

    5. Creator Ronaldo Nascimento on April 30

      I completely forgot about backing this project. Was it ever delivered, I have moved since I backed this? What is going on, can someone bring me up to date please?

    6. Creator Allison McGillen on April 30

      Is there any new information on backer rewards? I donated at the t-shirt level and still haven't received it. Is this wrapped up in the court case too? Have any of the rewards gone out or is everything on hold until the court case is finished?
      I really wish you the best of luck in the court proceedings and hope all goes well. I really want to see this movie!! :)

    7. Creator RUESTCHMANN on April 30

      Same here. Anthony replied on the fly. Which is good. We'll see where it goes now.

    8. Creator John R. Troy on April 29

      Actually, I just got an e-mail back from him this morning, he's working on an update now. Hopefully we'll know what's happening by the weekend.

    9. Creator RUESTCHMANN on April 29

      Thanks John R., I'll email Savini.

    10. Creator John R. Troy on April 26

      Per his last update, Savini suggested the best way to get in contact with him. Here are the e-mail addresses he gave. I would suggest backers write to him here, as I think unless you actively login to Kickstarter you wouldn't be aware of the comments.

      a20sidedstory@gmail.com asavini@gmail.com

      I wrote 4 days ago. No response yet. I'd suggest some of you try as well. Maybe also the facebook page as that seems active.

      What's really troubling to me though is that the court document repository has not released a single update since March 2nd, so none of us know how the court cases are progressing. The defense was supposed to respond by the 18th of March. Even consider the court may not have an obligation to update their database, it is weird that it hasn't happened.

      The only thing I could consider is that either side or the judge has stuck a gag order on this so third parties can't see any details anymore. That could be why there's no response, there's a legal reason forcing the issue until we reach a certain point, and it might be why we can no longer see public documents, but at the same time, this sort of hurts all the backers since I think we have some right to know what's going on, since we have a financial stake in the matter.

    11. Creator Mikel Muxika on April 25

      No news, no response to the people asking for an update... the future of this project certainly looks bright...
      Any options for a refund? If we don't get neither updates nor rewards, looks like this is dead or you ran with our money, seems like the time for refunds...

    12. Creator Francis on April 24

      My guess would be that they have been waiting to update us when the legal proceedings come to a meaningful conclusion. However it has been four months so even a quick summary of what has happened in the meantime, even if it has been a whole lot of waiting and frustrating legal shenanigans would be reassuring and keep us informed.

    13. Creator Ray Slakinski on April 21

      Wow, why no update in so long? Did the court ruling go the wrong way? Money all gone, you hate us? Why?

    14. Creator SE Weaver on April 18

      Any news? It's time for an update, my friends.

    15. Creator Charles Ryan Fagan on April 17

      An update would be very welcome...

    16. Creator Alex Rosenwald on April 12

      Still waiting on an update...

    17. Creator Nathan Alvarez on April 12

      I donated $40 2 years ago And I never got my reward.... UPDATE?

    18. Creator Ben W Bell on April 5

      Any chance of an update?

    19. Creator David Culp on March 30

      An update would be nice.......

    20. Creator GLGamesMike on March 13

      Yes, another update is overdue. Would love to know where things stand now...

    21. Creator Blackout on March 12

      Hello.... I donated 15 a while back and never got the link to watch the digital download.... how do I see this thing already?

    22. Creator ANALOG GAMES on March 10

      What happened to Diesel LaForce Greyhawk print? I've never seen mine. Anyone else have one delivered?

    23. Creator davrion on February 27

      Thanks John!

    24. Creator John R. Troy on February 22

      You guys should probably e-mail him if you want an update--he usually responds to e-mail quickly, and he gave them in the last update (or suggest he post here, which is what I personally did last time). I doubt much can be said from his camp until some more progress occurs legally.

      As for those delays, the latest from those public court docs indicate that some of the arguments won't be dealt with until at least early march. I suspect there will be another month or so until we see any progress besides "time to extend answer to the complaints".

    25. Creator Mikel Muxika on February 21

      an update would be appreciated...

    26. Creator Scott Sheets on February 14

      Any news?

    27. Creator Scott Sheets on December 31, 2014

      Check out the KS page for "The Other Project"

      It currently blank with the text "XXXProjectXXX is the subject of an intellectual property dispute and is currently unavailable.

      Thanks for your patience."

    28. Creator John R. Troy on December 21, 2014

      For those interested, In case people were wondering about the lawsuit, it looks like 2 new documents appeared--filed the 17th but I just saw them Yesterday.

      The case was delayed...it looks like both parties agreed to alter the time of the motions to a later date, but the judge just ruled that the case for TGK to dismiss the suit was denied, and that in early February a preliminary hearing will be held. Nothing really indicates if there are still some settlement talks going on (very likely), or if the appeal is going through (more doubtful since those are harder to get). I suspect a lot of the silence here is based on these reasons. If the earlier documents are correct, I think the judge was supposed to review both films first so that would explain a lot of the silence here.

    29. Creator Scott Sheets on December 16, 2014

      Annnd.... over a month with no update or interviews. I like stating the obvious; it's my hobby.

    30. Creator RUESTCHMANN on December 12, 2014

      What "shortly" means to you [the film crew] ? more consideration via communication for backers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    31. Creator Corey on December 1, 2014

      Whoa! A lot of requests for updates, I feel like I'm at the DMV. I'll just take a ticket and wait in line for my 'update'.

    32. Creator Mikel Muxika on November 29, 2014

      Hi, it's been nearly a month since you have been working on an update, or that is what your last comment says, and over 3 months from the last update.
      I would appreciate some news...

    33. Creator Patrick Ciraco on November 25, 2014

      Hello. An update of some context, good or bad, would be a respectful and considerate action on Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Film's behalf. You have a lot of Backers here who believed in making this possible... if it can not be, then a reimbursement of funds is in order.

    34. Creator John R. Troy on November 24, 2014

      Just to add, I think the most frustrating thing about this type of thing is the lack of communication that occurs when a lawsuit happens, because of gag orders and the legal concept of "don't say anything more than you need to". While I've contributed to several Kickstarters that were both good and bad, this is the first one where there were legal elements involved that actually prevented the normal transparency process.

      I think Kickstarter should put something in the TOS to make sure folks can provide details to the backers when needed--that could be overridden by a judge but if there's a legal obligation placed in the TOS, the courts would take that into account.

      I also think Kickstarter should, rather than take a page down with a simple note, point or provide more information such as a link to a court case or at least a link to a PDF of the desist order, and give backers an update on the status of their funds.

    35. Creator John R. Troy on November 23, 2014

      I think we have to wait since there's obviously been a delay in the court process. No updates have been made from the public court interface since September 2014, which either means that the court has delayed or is going through a private process, or there's some serious arbitration / negotiations going on which require both parties to remain silent. (Either that or NY is slow in getting updates on the public interface).

      I doubt refunds can be given at this point since the money is already spent and the documentary has been previewed at GenCon.

    36. Creator Parzival on November 21, 2014

      We either need a serious update with some specifics or really, you should consider offering refunds. I was so excited about this, now i just feel ripped off and disappointed.

    37. Creator Alex Rosenwald on November 16, 2014

      Still waiting on an update...

    38. Creator Alarian DarkWind on November 14, 2014

      Since you managed to get the other project shut down, how about you finish this up and get it out so you can prove what they were saying about you wrong?

    39. Creator Alex Rosenwald on November 10, 2014

      Still waiting on an update...

    40. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on November 2, 2014

      Hi everyone. We are working on an update and will have it shortly. We will also be sharing some interview clips as well in the next couple weeks.

    41. Creator C. Scott Kippen on October 30, 2014

      Will I see a film? Or will my contribution become vaporware?

    42. Creator Steve Reinhart on October 23, 2014

      Can we have an update, please, on what is going on with this project?

    43. Creator Joseph Prozinski on October 20, 2014

      It's been a couple months now since the last update. Any word on the status? Will we see the documentary before the end of the year?

    44. Creator John R. Troy on September 15, 2014

      Yeah, I understand and didn't expect a comment--my sole purpose in posting is to let the backers know the potential progress of this unfortunate situation.

    45. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 14, 2014

      Thanks John,
      We can't comment at this point, I'm sure you understand.

      Best,
      Anthony

    46. Creator John R. Troy on September 14, 2014

      For those wondering, according to the court docs, both sides look like they're trying to work out a settlement--they suspended one of the defenses motions (the defense is trying to get the case dismissed and appeal the injunction). So it looks like either by October we'll have a settlement or the courts will still go through the process.

    47. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 12, 2014

      Thanks Speno. We will write an update soon.

    48. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on September 6, 2014

      Hey Robert,
      Sorry you are just finding out about this.
      The film has been delayed by many months by legal issues.
      We have a moral obligation to our funders to resolve this issue before raising more money. Feel free to read the court documents if you have any questions. They will have a lot of answers for you.
      Best, A

    49. Creator Robert Burke on September 5, 2014

      Were is the film? How ironic that a story of greed and lawsuits over a creative endeavor has become its own story of greed and lawsuits over a creative endeavor. Pathetic.

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