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    1. Creator Mikel Muxika on January 26

      @John R. Troy thanks for the info and your insights ^_^

    2. Creator John R. Troy on January 22

      Looks like there is finally an update

      http://goo.gl/FBMlkO

      Basically, it states that they will try to go through a non-binding mediation in April in hopes that both parties don't have to go through a trial.

      I hope they can come to terms and this gets resolved.

    3. Creator John R. Troy on January 4

      Sorry but one more thought...

      The saddest thing about it right now is that all fan enthusiasm has been sucked out of this project. There's only a few people even annoyed or concerned enough at the delay to post comments here now or demands for their money back, and over 3,500 backed it!

      I think rather than anger most fans now just shrug and feel apathy, and either consider it a "write-off", or else just hope maybe in five years at least one of these films get made.

      Once all of this is cleared up, all that enthusiasm I remember from 2012 is going to have to be generated from scratch, which makes it harder for the films to be marketed and distributed, etc.

      That's the shame of it all...

    4. Creator John R. Troy on January 4

      (Crap, wish I could edit statements)

      I think it this case it might be an Interpleader, rather than an Intervention.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpleader

    5. Creator John R. Troy on January 4

      Some more thoughts.

      Without seeing a schedule none of us really knows what's going on just yet. I'm making assumptions that everything that was scheduled has actually happened. I think the last time we looked there were depositions scheduled and then it got delayed for months with a settlement. I truly wish there were more public updates, as it seems we're left in the dark.

      I'm getting a little annoyed with this lack of progress because as Kickstarter backers, we funded one or both projects and we have some rights.

      If this continues, the one thing I could think of would be to request the judge an Intervention, which means as a group of Kickstarters, we could become part of the process and (if accepted by the judge) we would get to know what's going on and perhaps force an outcome, although I think we would be limited to just getting our funds back from either of the projects, and some backers would probably need to pay for an attorney to do this. The general process would be here.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervention_(law)

      What frustrates me is that as backers of one (or both projects in some cases), we seem to be at the mercy of this court process and that locks us from individual recourse. Maybe the threat of an intervention would force the parties to settle (in lieu of losing all the money).

      Of course, it would depend if any of us would be willing to pay for an attorney to handle this, and if the judge felt as backers we had a case. The Kickstarter thing could be a precedent we'd want to set--I'm not sure if any other KS has had legal stuff affect it like this.

    6. Creator John R. Troy on January 4

      For those wondering about possible release dates, looking at the court docs published so far, there were depositions done in December, there's supposedly more stuff to come in the spring, but assuming everything is done "on time" (and it rarely is), the trial is likely set for the Summer of 2016. Once that's done, it should be fairly quick. That's also assuming that there are no further delays in the schedule. It also looks like both parties had a confidentiality agreement signed so we may not even see any court documents if they are covered under this.

      If I had to guess, I would say a release date between late 2016 and 2017.

    7. Creator Mikel Muxika on January 3

      Time goes by with no indication of a possible release date, so... can we get a refund?

    8. Creator Patrick Ciraco on January 1

      Any idea if or when this issue will be settled and when Backers will know if this will be fulfilled or refunded?
      Thank you.

    9. Creator Pat Bellavance on December 19

      @Parzival. No it's not a pre-order (and Kickstarter keeps on repeating that point) *BUT* you are correc -- fulfillment is a requirement and if it cannot be done, then it is up to the creators to pay back the backers.

      It would be nice to see this moving along but I've started to lose hope on this one.

    10. Creator Seeya (deleted) on December 19

      What a bunch of nonsense Kevin Smith, if you enjoy giving your money away for vapor that is your problem. I'm not a Wal-mart fan but at least there you get what you pay for or you can get your money back. This isn't an investment service, it's a pre-order and a promise for goods to be delivered.

    11. Creator Kevin Smith on December 7

      Keep in mind this isn't one of those projects where the creator(s) just disappeared, they are tied up in litigation. Also, a handy rule to consider before investing in anything is to take some form of risk. No. There shouldn't be an option to "get your money back" Kickstarter is not Wal-Mart. An investment always carries an inherent risk of loss. All that said, I still believe we will get our movie.

    12. Creator Iconoscope Films/Westpaw Films on December 5

      Hey everyone. This has been a long and tough process. The last few months have been taxing for several reasons. Please understand that at the end of the day all we want to do was make a film. We are committed to making a film for this community. Thank you for your support. We do appreciate it very much.
      Michael, you are by no means SOL. send me an email, asavini@gmail.com and we will get this sorted out. apologies that you didn't get one. I will get you in touch with the person who shipped them.

    13. Creator Francis on December 3

      At the end of the day the money we gave out to support this project was spent on what we wanted it to be, making a D&D documentary, there was no mismanagement or misuse of funds here, just creative difficulties and a delay. We'll get our movie eventually, we just have to wait, under the Kickstarter terms you have supported the project and the creators are doing their best to get it made, I don't think a refund is warranted.

    14. Creator Francis on December 3

      Guys they can't finish the movie until the court proceedings end, don't blame the creators here. Also those of you asking for refunds should remember that they already shot a lot of the movie and went all over the country gathering footage before they had some of their own try to take their footage and make their own movie, then edited and prepped a lot of that footage etc. A lot of the money was spend on what we gave it to them for, production costs. No-one should be writing this off or asking for refunds until after the court proceedings end as the production crews hands are tied until then. Does it kind of suck having to wait so long and that a more amicable solution couldn't be reached? Yes it certainly does, but if we can be patient we'll get to watch a great movie about something important, all of us and Paizo publishing believed in it and this film still needs our support. I'm behind you guys, especially given your difficulties of late, good luck with resolving the court proceedings let's get this movie made!

    15. Creator Michael on December 2

      I know I am super late here but I never received the items that I was entitled to when I made my pledge way back then. Am I just SOL? My pledge entitled me to:

      D&D artist Diesel LaForce will do a poster-sized print of artwork based off the iconic Player’s Handbook cover illustration from 1978. The pen and ink print will feature a full scene inspired by the artwork created by Dave Trampier of the adventurers pillaging a temple. This artwork is a limited edition of 300, signed and numbered by the artist. It is being commissioned exclusively for our Kickstarter premium.

    16. Creator Seeya (deleted) on November 10

      I'm joining the chorus and asking again, we should have an option to get our money back. I opted for a digital copy and I'm going to bet that any digital distribution will be botched, enough is enough.

    17. Creator Kevin Smith on October 27

      @Robin - I highly doubt it won't happen looking at the court battle the momentum looks to be in this KS'ers favor. It just takes a long time in the NY Court System to get anything done (something my day job has made me acutely aware of).

    18. Creator Robin Elliott on October 23

      I'm sorry all this happened but - I want my money back. This film is never going to happen.

    19. Creator Chris on October 9

      I'm sticking onto this project. Mostly because I already spent the money and am hoping one day to get home and find the dvd/blu-ray... well, probably not in the mailbox my mom will probably ask why it showed up on her doorstep, but still, the reason I wanted the film stands, and I've lost nothing in the wait. In fact, I may get more out of it since I've gotten more and more into rpg's since this project first launched

    20. Creator TBD Toys on October 4

      I think your only option is to refund the backers. This project is a complete loss

    21. Creator Mark Arvidson on October 3

      I realize that puts me in the heartless, unsupportive minority, but it is the unfortunate truth.

    22. Creator Mark Arvidson on October 3

      I'm sorry you have legal problems, but I'm writing this whole project off as a loss.

    23. Creator John R. Troy on September 10

      One new doc was posted--I can never do a deep link here because of what Kickstarter does to those links, but the following is a quick summary.

      Unless there's some kind of settlement made, this will take about a year to get to trial. Discovery, Depositions, and Questions take place as early at November, up through the end of Winter. If all goes on track, an actual Trial won't begin until around May 2016. So I don't expect this to be resolved until the summer of 2016 at the earliest.

      This being said, I would say we should not expect the doc to be released until probably at earliest the Fall of 2016, and depending on what needs to be done, probably not until 2017.

    24. Creator Kevin Smith on August 28

      I've been keeping my blog updated. Also has info on how to access the court docs.

      Looks like things are stayed until September 9th.

      https://melsmifgames.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/kickstarter-woes-competing-dd-docs-round-2/

    25. Creator John R. Troy on July 15, 2015

      One new court doc was released.

      https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument…==

      The case has been stayed until September 9th. If I read this document correctly, the Defendant's attorney's were allowed to quit--so the defendants have until September 9th to either get a new attorney or I guess represent themselves...

      The saga continues, I guess.

    26. Creator RUESTCHMANN on May 24, 2015

      Thanks for your updates. I believe in the project. Keep your heads up!

    27. Creator John R. Troy on May 20, 2015

      The legal process may take a lot longer now. According to the latest court documents, a few which were filed on May 18-19, the defendants have refused to settle, and the attorneys for the defendants have formally requested to resign (giving their 30 days notice).

      https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument…==

      This is likely to get really bumpy...ugh...

    28. Creator John R. Troy on May 8, 2015

      @Cory Welch--they did an update 8 days ago...

    29. Creator Cory Welch on May 8, 2015

      Ditto - checking my older Kickstarter backings, $100 to this, it's raised almost $200K and we haven't had an update since 2014. Here. How about being "Respectful and Considerate" and give us a status on this project? I'm sure you can comment on something.

    30. Creator Ronaldo Nascimento on April 30, 2015

      I completely forgot about backing this project. Was it ever delivered, I have moved since I backed this? What is going on, can someone bring me up to date please?

    31. Creator Allison McGillen on April 30, 2015

      Is there any new information on backer rewards? I donated at the t-shirt level and still haven't received it. Is this wrapped up in the court case too? Have any of the rewards gone out or is everything on hold until the court case is finished?
      I really wish you the best of luck in the court proceedings and hope all goes well. I really want to see this movie!! :)

    32. Creator RUESTCHMANN on April 30, 2015

      Same here. Anthony replied on the fly. Which is good. We'll see where it goes now.

    33. Creator John R. Troy on April 29, 2015

      Actually, I just got an e-mail back from him this morning, he's working on an update now. Hopefully we'll know what's happening by the weekend.

    34. Creator RUESTCHMANN on April 29, 2015

      Thanks John R., I'll email Savini.

    35. Creator John R. Troy on April 26, 2015

      Per his last update, Savini suggested the best way to get in contact with him. Here are the e-mail addresses he gave. I would suggest backers write to him here, as I think unless you actively login to Kickstarter you wouldn't be aware of the comments.

      a20sidedstory@gmail.com asavini@gmail.com

      I wrote 4 days ago. No response yet. I'd suggest some of you try as well. Maybe also the facebook page as that seems active.

      What's really troubling to me though is that the court document repository has not released a single update since March 2nd, so none of us know how the court cases are progressing. The defense was supposed to respond by the 18th of March. Even consider the court may not have an obligation to update their database, it is weird that it hasn't happened.

      The only thing I could consider is that either side or the judge has stuck a gag order on this so third parties can't see any details anymore. That could be why there's no response, there's a legal reason forcing the issue until we reach a certain point, and it might be why we can no longer see public documents, but at the same time, this sort of hurts all the backers since I think we have some right to know what's going on, since we have a financial stake in the matter.

    36. Creator Mikel Muxika on April 25, 2015

      No news, no response to the people asking for an update... the future of this project certainly looks bright...
      Any options for a refund? If we don't get neither updates nor rewards, looks like this is dead or you ran with our money, seems like the time for refunds...

    37. Creator Francis on April 24, 2015

      My guess would be that they have been waiting to update us when the legal proceedings come to a meaningful conclusion. However it has been four months so even a quick summary of what has happened in the meantime, even if it has been a whole lot of waiting and frustrating legal shenanigans would be reassuring and keep us informed.

    38. Creator Ray Slakinski on April 21, 2015

      Wow, why no update in so long? Did the court ruling go the wrong way? Money all gone, you hate us? Why?

    39. Creator SE Weaver on April 18, 2015

      Any news? It's time for an update, my friends.

    40. Creator Charles Ryan Fagan on April 17, 2015

      An update would be very welcome...

    41. Creator Alex Rosenwald on April 12, 2015

      Still waiting on an update...

    42. Creator Nathan Alvarez on April 12, 2015

      I donated $40 2 years ago And I never got my reward.... UPDATE?

    43. Creator Ben W Bell on April 5, 2015

      Any chance of an update?

    44. Creator David Culp on March 30, 2015

      An update would be nice.......

    45. Creator GLGMike on March 13, 2015

      Yes, another update is overdue. Would love to know where things stand now...

    46. Creator Blackout on March 12, 2015

      Hello.... I donated 15 a while back and never got the link to watch the digital download.... how do I see this thing already?

    47. Creator ANALOG GAMES on March 10, 2015

      What happened to Diesel LaForce Greyhawk print? I've never seen mine. Anyone else have one delivered?

    48. Creator davrion on February 27, 2015

      Thanks John!

    49. Creator John R. Troy on February 22, 2015

      You guys should probably e-mail him if you want an update--he usually responds to e-mail quickly, and he gave them in the last update (or suggest he post here, which is what I personally did last time). I doubt much can be said from his camp until some more progress occurs legally.

      As for those delays, the latest from those public court docs indicate that some of the arguments won't be dealt with until at least early march. I suspect there will be another month or so until we see any progress besides "time to extend answer to the complaints".

    50. Creator Mikel Muxika on February 21, 2015

      an update would be appreciated...

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