As a first time backer I appreciate that projects could fail for what ever reason. But with Bringrr it feels that they have just taken the money and run. No update in nearly a year, fraud by misrepresentation anyone? Bought a Tile instead.
@Matthew:
I don't have a Facebook account, but as a backer from California, let me know if there's anything I can do. You can reach me via email at amloessb AT gmail.
Mid-Q3 and absolutely no update. Such a shame. This was my first and only backing and I sure am not tempted to do it again after this. $175 is far less than many of you I'm sure, but to me and my small hourly job, that's a lot of money. This is ridiculous.
I've been adding people as they come along. I haven't had a chance to post the info that I have about filing against the company via Attorney General's offices.
Why can't anybody in the USA try to file criminal charges (fraud?) against this guy? It's worth a try and a court of law will decide if it is the case or not.
Just complaining might make us feel better, but won't change much.
I'd file charges, but I am in Europe. Civil Law case is not possible from here and criminal charges from here doesn't help at all (tried it many years ago).
Thanks.
@Usman I saw. Thanks for joining. I'm gathering resources on the different states that this company is incorporated in so that we can start to levy requests to the appropriate Attorney Generals for Consumer Fraud Protection.
All, I created a facebook group for backers of this project. This is to hopefully help us move forward with fixing this project and either getting refunds or our backer rewards.
Matthew, I'm in the same boat as you. I've given up on this project. I recently backed another project called Pebblebee, which has a similar product, and track record for delivering on time. Their campaign ends in a few days.
Lev I've sent so many messages to Kickstarter and the response is always the same... We reached out to them to remind them of their obligation.... How does that do anything?
Unless they come up with a way to hold creators responsible, I am done with Kickstarter.
Hi ,
Thanks for updating me about this situation, and I’m sorry to hear that this has not been a better experience for you and other backers of this project. I do see that we've reached out to this creator in the past to remind them of their obligations, as well as our expectations regarding communication. I'm sorry they haven't yet responded to you and other members of their backer community.
If you feel as though this creator has not made a good faith effort to complete their project as promised, we’d appreciate if you could share some feedback about your experience using our Project Feedback Form.
We'll be sure to take your experience into consideration as we evaluate the policies and procedures that we have in place. Thanks again for your cooperation and for being an active member of the Kickstarter community.
Best,
Maren
This is SO infuriating. Like Laura, I poured lots of money into backing this project with Aldo at the helm . . . and the Bring Card on top of it, which was pre-ordered of outside of Kickstarter. This campaign isn't your average fail. Aldo was seemingly near to starting manufacturing before his sudden departure from the company. From my analysis of the entire situation, I'm gathering that Aldo and Asheem (and/or other staff members) were having creative differences regarding Bringrr products design, which used many off the shelf components. We all knew this as backers when we signed up for this project, and I had even spoken to Aldo extensively behind the scenes and was confident that his design plans made fiscal sense and would not affect the products' ability to function and deliver on its promises. So in came Asheem -- no introductions, no apologies, etc. He just proclaims that he was making major changes to the product in both its design, form-factor, functionalities, etc. WE had to scour the Internet to find any indications of these supposed changes, and that's when another backer here found out that Asheem was planning on posting the project to Amazon's new crowdfunding platform, along with photos of the hideous new monstrosity. We have been lied to by Asheem all along, not kept updated, not been shown proof of his work, etc.
I'm an experienced crowdfunder. Under normal expectations, there may be minor design tweaks and improvements after a campaign has finished its funding period. I realize that sometimes tweaks need to be made to improve on a product's ability to function, as well as be manufactured productively and accurately at high volumes. However, assuming he is actually working on anything, Asheem has done more than a few tweaks to the Bringrr product line. (Just to be clear, let's define from Dictionary.com: tweak (verb) to make a MINOR adjustment to -- i.e: to tweak a computer program.) He re-branded Bringrr entirely, he totally changed the products' look, weight and size. He said the electronic specs and features would be entirely redone from scratch. Some of Bringrr's features and capabilities have been eliminated. You get the picture. We also were not inform by Asheem about the changes in Bringrr's staff. It has come to my attention that several of Aldo's team members left after Asheem became CEO. We were not told Asheem's professional history, how he came to be chosen as the new CEO, who his staff members are, their roles in the company, their professional backgrounds, etc. When I originally decided to back Bringrr, staff bios were prominently presented, as well as enough information that I could make an informed decision as to whether they would be capable of bringing Bringrr to life. I was able to look up the names of Aldo's staff and learn even more about them beyond what was posted on the campaign page. Apparently, Asheem did not feel it was important to share this info after assuming the role of CEO, and had he been with Bringrr CEO from the start and didn't provide this information on the campaign page or upon request, I would not have backed the company. If a campaign does not feel its important to openly share information about themselves and their capabilities to handle the project, then I worry what they're hiding. Even after asking multiple times, it was evident that Asheem just didn't care to provide this information.
Had I been presented with Bringrr as a new campaign (the product, branding, staff, etc.) with Asheem at the helm, there's ZERO chance that I would have backed his product. I'm positive that most backers here wouldn't have either. Under normal circumstances, minor changes might be made to a product, its branding, etc., some staff may change and backers are informed who is assuming their roles, etc. There are cases where campaigns do their best to bring their product to life and they fail (ie: 3rd party manufacturers or suppliers vanish, there isn't enough money because inaccurate estimates were quoted, etc.), and in those cases, most backers don't get angry -- they were with the campaign to come to a resolution if possible OR they backers feel that every effort was made by the campaign despite never getting the product. And this is why its crucial to keep backers informed the entire time and lines of communication open, whereas the allusive Asheem seems to vanish and barely tells us anything when he decides to reappear (and does so disrespectfully, rudely, and washing his hands of any fault). When Asheem assumed the role of CEO, he had a responsibility to us: either deliver Aldo's promised product that we backed OR refund everyone and start his own new campaign (or however he wanted to proceed) from scratch using his new design. We never agreed to such major changes, he's obviously an incompetent liar who doesn't care about us, and even if a product ever comes to fruition (which is hugely doubtful), he still ought to do the right thing and refund those of us who don't approve of the major changes to this product line and brand.
I also know for a fact that Asheem has a bad history from people (that aren't necessarily backers) who read my comments here on the campaign page. I was contacted by someone (who shall remain nameless) who was stiffed more than a few thousand dollars for a contracted job at Asheem's prior company -- even though the company folded, this worker should have been paid because I've seen Asheem's LinkedIn page and articles claiming that his prior company had earned $700 million in revenue. I've been contacted by others who have worked with Asheem and said he is not reliable, trustworthy, capable, etc. Asheem has told us that he secured $100,000 by some outside investors . . . yet he tells us there's no money to refund us? That's bull -- either the investors don't exist OR he's got the cash. And I tend to think the latter. He'll say he used it for development costs or whatever, but again, that would be a bone-headed, irresponsible, and unethical move. He's forcing us to keep a product we never agreed to. And what about those refunds for those of us who pre-ordered the Bring Cards? That money is legally owed to us -- he announced it's not being produced, and as soon as he got that $100,000, it should have been repaid. Overall, Asheem is essentially borrowing (or even stealing, depending on your point of view of this craziness) our money, and he should repay us every single cent WITH INTEREST.
I don't know where to find a lawyer that does class action lawsuits. I've never been involved with one. I realize that it's generally tough to sue most crowdfunding campaigns due to the inherent risks and vague platform rules -- but when you look at Kickstarter's terms, I think it's SO clear that this campaign is highly unusual and has breached its end of the deal from so many different angles. And let's not forget that there were also Indiegogo backers as well, who are sadly in the same boat as us. Aside from that, we could also theoretically try approaching Kickstarter. I know they're typically not much help, but again, we're dealing with a situation that's never happened in Kickstarter's history (to my knowledge) where a campaign essentially changed the entire product, brand, team, etc. without our consent rather than delivering a similar product to what we were promised. Then we could also try contacting major media outlets who might be helpful in bringing this matter into the public realm and possibly investigating and/or securing help for us -- sometimes bad press is enough to get a company to refund everyone promptly.
I don't know how Asheem lives with himself. On YouTube, he claims to be a spiritual guru who hangs out with highly revered spiritual leaders around the globe. He's clearly not the person shown on YouTube. It's truly disappointing, as well as peculiar that he's cheating us, and even immaturely posing as Aldo (who cannot be blamed for Asheem's wrongdoings). It doesn't matter that Asheem claims Aldo ran away and stole the company's money -- when Asheem assumed the role of CEO, company's problems and resolving them became HIS to resolve, not "Aldo's"! If he were the spiritual person he professes to be, he would've made this all right from day one. We would've either given us the option to get refunds (and he would have done everything in his power to secure that money for us) or continue on with his new Bringrr plans. This entire situation is truly unbelievable, and I believe its our duty to prevent Asheem from duping more people in the future, whether it's hired employees, backers, customers, investors, etc. We can't let Asheem get away with this -- we've gotta do something as a group to get all of our money back AND prevent Asheem from scamming other people in the future. And that's why I think we need to create a private group for Kickstarter and Indiegogo backers to privately discuss everything and figure out how to handle this matter.
@Alan Hardman: it's hard to fail when you only back 4 projects. That's how many you backed since joining in 2014. I wonder, how many of those where technology projects? I am not 100% convinced that backing a technology project on a crowdfunding platform is the worst idea one could have in 90% of the cases. Technology moves so fast and the market is so full that by the time a project succeeds (in the 40% times that it does) there are already full fledged products on the market that do the same thing, cheaper and offer true warranty and certification.
Be honest about kickstarter. Go look at all the pledges you've ever made, remove all the projects you actually really use and leave the rest: the scams, the products that are so bad you would be afraid to use, the ones you don't use at all and so on. Now sum all those money up. Would you still want to back a kickstarter project? EVER?
Maybe you can post some pictures of the parties, drinks and prostitutes you're purchasing with our cash. Would be a nice gesture and we could be happy for you, because it proves our money wasn't completely wasted.
The least that you can do is provide us with an update. If it is not going well, just be straight about it....even if only for your somewhat tarnished reputations..
Nothing updated for a while now, I know that I'll probably never see this product completed or my money back.
Just like a little clarification on whether this is even gonna happen
Internet Scam Alert: Most "Kickstarter" Projects Just Useless Crap. Internet criminals are using a website called "Kickstarter" to bilk friends and families out of money for terrible, ill-conceived, and unnecessary "personal projects."
Because crowdfunding is built on trust, it’s ripe for fraud. People solicit money from strangers for their projects, usually through online platforms like Kickstarter, Indiegogo, or GoFundMe. In return, they usually offer rewards—a sample of their product, for example, a commemorative t-shirt, or digital downloads. But whereas in the past, a network of friends and family could vouch for their credibility before contributing cash, today’s “creators” are only as reliable as their promises. And those promises don’t always deliver.
The Federal Trade Commission recently settled its first crowdfunding fraud case against a project creator who scammed contributors out of more than $122,000. Erik Chevalier, using the business name The Forking Path Co., asked for funding to produce a board game called The Doom of Atlantic City, which had been designed by two prominent board-game artists. Nearly 1,250 backers pledged $75 or more hoping to get a copy of the game or one of its prized figurines. Over 14 months, Chevalier provided periodic “updates” on his progress. Then he announced that he was canceling the project.
I keep saying, the smart man would have just let this one crash and burn, rather than taking the reins from a bunch of crooks like Aldo and his goons. Given how long we've gone without an update, I can only assume this one is finally as dead as fried chicken.
I have been watching and waiting. It's been well over 2 years. No Bringer was ever produced.
896 backers were scammed out of $76,561.00. Here in the USA that amounts to banking fraud. The "CEO" used the internet via Kickstarter and Paypal to steal funds from all of us who thought this was an actual project. It's not a class action lawsuit. I think we are looking at Federal Banking Fraud as the real situation
Backers should find a way to communicate as this fraud is across the USA and possibly some foreign countries.
Such a real shame. It was the photo of the ginger Kitty that drew me in.
I have no more expectation of receiving "Bringrr". I was scammed with the rest.
@Marsha - Here's the bio from their site:
Chris Herbert - CEO and Co-Founder
I went surfing and my key fell out of my wetsuit on the beach. My car was parked below the high tide line and when i came in to move my car, I couldn’t find my keys! Luckily people with metal detectors came by and found my keys before the ocean swept away my car. That made me wish for a easy way to keep track of items.
I like the looks of it, but we've already gotten Tile and DOTT for replacement functionality.
Now, if someone would make something with a longer range, so I can watch where my daughter is in the neighborhood, that'd be great...
A private group discussion to discuss what, exactly? Unless you're trying to get enough of us together to bring legal action against Asheem et al., I don't think there's much point. Personally, _if_ Asheem manages to produce a product, I'll be happy to just get something out of this campaign at this point, no matter what the form factor. For those of us who have waited two years for Bringrr and haven't already bought one of the numerous other trackers available to replace it, having this product must not really be that high on our priorities list.
In any case, I'd be open to discussing this project among backers in private, but I'm not sure what the best forum for that discussion is. I, too, would like to hear some more suggestions from other backers, as well as if there is any interest in such a thing.
P.S.: Regarding the project creator name, I've never created a successful KS project (or any KS project, for that matter), so I don't know what restrictions there are or aren't on changing the creator's name on a project that has already completed. I would imagine, however, that such a restriction might actually exist for creator names on completed/closed projects, so that they aren't able to make it look like someone else created the project, in case it goes south.
Use this space to cheer the creator along, ask questions, and talk to your fellow backers. Please remember to be respectful and considerate. Thanks!
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Show older commentsLaura Ling on October 12
Someone logged in Oct 4... I absolutely don't understand why. Keeping tabs on when to start a new scam to cover legal fees?
I just saw the FB group and joined.
Michael on October 1
As a first time backer I appreciate that projects could fail for what ever reason. But with Bringrr it feels that they have just taken the money and run. No update in nearly a year, fraud by misrepresentation anyone? Bought a Tile instead.
Aaron Loessberg-Zahl on September 27
@Matthew:
I don't have a Facebook account, but as a backer from California, let me know if there's anything I can do. You can reach me via email at amloessb AT gmail.
mark ward on September 23
Money lost I guess.
Chad Lagace on September 16
Our money is gone. Indiego money is gone. Inventors wanted money gone.
All the money is gone. Company changed named to Pairables.
Eric Lubarsky on September 14
Has anyone been able to get their money back? its been almost a year since the last update
Malkaven on August 27
i'm in but I don't use Facebook so if this moves forward hopefully its across a different medium
Andrea Saccani on August 13
Joined as well. Both Kickstarter campaigns I joined failed.
steve sax on August 12
Liars
Katherine W. on August 10
I joined the FB group as well.
Mid-Q3 and absolutely no update. Such a shame. This was my first and only backing and I sure am not tempted to do it again after this. $175 is far less than many of you I'm sure, but to me and my small hourly job, that's a lot of money. This is ridiculous.
Nhonami on August 5
I've joined also.
Xyes on July 25
I joined as well. I'm up for a suit.
Stevenx2 on July 25
@Matthew:
Thanks for the updates and taking care of issues for all of us!
Matthew Tobia on July 25
I've been adding people as they come along. I haven't had a chance to post the info that I have about filing against the company via Attorney General's offices.
Andrea Saccani on July 25
Requested grp. Ty
Florian Breu on July 24
joined the groop. not shure this will help anything...
Hey ASSeem... please also join the Grop and you are welcome to share Pictures of our House, Boat, Sportscar, Sluts and Champain
Stevenx2 on July 23
Why can't anybody in the USA try to file criminal charges (fraud?) against this guy? It's worth a try and a court of law will decide if it is the case or not.
Just complaining might make us feel better, but won't change much.
I'd file charges, but I am in Europe. Civil Law case is not possible from here and criminal charges from here doesn't help at all (tried it many years ago).
Thanks.
Matthew Tobia on July 22
@Usman I saw. Thanks for joining. I'm gathering resources on the different states that this company is incorporated in so that we can start to levy requests to the appropriate Attorney Generals for Consumer Fraud Protection.
Usman Ul Haque on July 20
@Matthew - Joined
Matthew Tobia on July 20
All, I created a facebook group for backers of this project. This is to hopefully help us move forward with fixing this project and either getting refunds or our backer rewards.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BringrrFiasco/
Usman Ul Haque on July 19
Matthew, I'm in the same boat as you. I've given up on this project. I recently backed another project called Pebblebee, which has a similar product, and track record for delivering on time. Their campaign ends in a few days.
Matthew Tobia on July 19
The sad thing is I only wanted this for the BringTags. I should have just waited and bought Tile.
Matthew Tobia on July 19
Lev I've sent so many messages to Kickstarter and the response is always the same... We reached out to them to remind them of their obligation.... How does that do anything?
Unless they come up with a way to hold creators responsible, I am done with Kickstarter.
Lev Agranovich EA
Superbacker
on July 7
This was Kickstarter's response to my comment and complaint to them.
I urge all backers to fill in the Project Feedback Form. Let's get this creator banned from Kickstarter and hopefully some action taken against him!!
Use this link: https://docs.google.com/a/frontdesign.com.au/forms/d/1KvWOM5qEvurz4EaZJch3B_1f3c3WLKe56vRI1gb4uRg/viewform
Kickstarter Support (Kickstarter)
Hi ,
Thanks for updating me about this situation, and I’m sorry to hear that this has not been a better experience for you and other backers of this project. I do see that we've reached out to this creator in the past to remind them of their obligations, as well as our expectations regarding communication. I'm sorry they haven't yet responded to you and other members of their backer community.
If you feel as though this creator has not made a good faith effort to complete their project as promised, we’d appreciate if you could share some feedback about your experience using our Project Feedback Form.
We'll be sure to take your experience into consideration as we evaluate the policies and procedures that we have in place. Thanks again for your cooperation and for being an active member of the Kickstarter community.
Best,
Maren
Lev Agranovich EA
Superbacker
on July 7
We didn't got this item
Please refund my funds.
Marsha Tyszler
Superbacker
on June 29
This is SO infuriating. Like Laura, I poured lots of money into backing this project with Aldo at the helm . . . and the Bring Card on top of it, which was pre-ordered of outside of Kickstarter. This campaign isn't your average fail. Aldo was seemingly near to starting manufacturing before his sudden departure from the company. From my analysis of the entire situation, I'm gathering that Aldo and Asheem (and/or other staff members) were having creative differences regarding Bringrr products design, which used many off the shelf components. We all knew this as backers when we signed up for this project, and I had even spoken to Aldo extensively behind the scenes and was confident that his design plans made fiscal sense and would not affect the products' ability to function and deliver on its promises. So in came Asheem -- no introductions, no apologies, etc. He just proclaims that he was making major changes to the product in both its design, form-factor, functionalities, etc. WE had to scour the Internet to find any indications of these supposed changes, and that's when another backer here found out that Asheem was planning on posting the project to Amazon's new crowdfunding platform, along with photos of the hideous new monstrosity. We have been lied to by Asheem all along, not kept updated, not been shown proof of his work, etc.
I'm an experienced crowdfunder. Under normal expectations, there may be minor design tweaks and improvements after a campaign has finished its funding period. I realize that sometimes tweaks need to be made to improve on a product's ability to function, as well as be manufactured productively and accurately at high volumes. However, assuming he is actually working on anything, Asheem has done more than a few tweaks to the Bringrr product line. (Just to be clear, let's define from Dictionary.com: tweak (verb) to make a MINOR adjustment to -- i.e: to tweak a computer program.) He re-branded Bringrr entirely, he totally changed the products' look, weight and size. He said the electronic specs and features would be entirely redone from scratch. Some of Bringrr's features and capabilities have been eliminated. You get the picture. We also were not inform by Asheem about the changes in Bringrr's staff. It has come to my attention that several of Aldo's team members left after Asheem became CEO. We were not told Asheem's professional history, how he came to be chosen as the new CEO, who his staff members are, their roles in the company, their professional backgrounds, etc. When I originally decided to back Bringrr, staff bios were prominently presented, as well as enough information that I could make an informed decision as to whether they would be capable of bringing Bringrr to life. I was able to look up the names of Aldo's staff and learn even more about them beyond what was posted on the campaign page. Apparently, Asheem did not feel it was important to share this info after assuming the role of CEO, and had he been with Bringrr CEO from the start and didn't provide this information on the campaign page or upon request, I would not have backed the company. If a campaign does not feel its important to openly share information about themselves and their capabilities to handle the project, then I worry what they're hiding. Even after asking multiple times, it was evident that Asheem just didn't care to provide this information.
Had I been presented with Bringrr as a new campaign (the product, branding, staff, etc.) with Asheem at the helm, there's ZERO chance that I would have backed his product. I'm positive that most backers here wouldn't have either. Under normal circumstances, minor changes might be made to a product, its branding, etc., some staff may change and backers are informed who is assuming their roles, etc. There are cases where campaigns do their best to bring their product to life and they fail (ie: 3rd party manufacturers or suppliers vanish, there isn't enough money because inaccurate estimates were quoted, etc.), and in those cases, most backers don't get angry -- they were with the campaign to come to a resolution if possible OR they backers feel that every effort was made by the campaign despite never getting the product. And this is why its crucial to keep backers informed the entire time and lines of communication open, whereas the allusive Asheem seems to vanish and barely tells us anything when he decides to reappear (and does so disrespectfully, rudely, and washing his hands of any fault). When Asheem assumed the role of CEO, he had a responsibility to us: either deliver Aldo's promised product that we backed OR refund everyone and start his own new campaign (or however he wanted to proceed) from scratch using his new design. We never agreed to such major changes, he's obviously an incompetent liar who doesn't care about us, and even if a product ever comes to fruition (which is hugely doubtful), he still ought to do the right thing and refund those of us who don't approve of the major changes to this product line and brand.
I also know for a fact that Asheem has a bad history from people (that aren't necessarily backers) who read my comments here on the campaign page. I was contacted by someone (who shall remain nameless) who was stiffed more than a few thousand dollars for a contracted job at Asheem's prior company -- even though the company folded, this worker should have been paid because I've seen Asheem's LinkedIn page and articles claiming that his prior company had earned $700 million in revenue. I've been contacted by others who have worked with Asheem and said he is not reliable, trustworthy, capable, etc. Asheem has told us that he secured $100,000 by some outside investors . . . yet he tells us there's no money to refund us? That's bull -- either the investors don't exist OR he's got the cash. And I tend to think the latter. He'll say he used it for development costs or whatever, but again, that would be a bone-headed, irresponsible, and unethical move. He's forcing us to keep a product we never agreed to. And what about those refunds for those of us who pre-ordered the Bring Cards? That money is legally owed to us -- he announced it's not being produced, and as soon as he got that $100,000, it should have been repaid. Overall, Asheem is essentially borrowing (or even stealing, depending on your point of view of this craziness) our money, and he should repay us every single cent WITH INTEREST.
I don't know where to find a lawyer that does class action lawsuits. I've never been involved with one. I realize that it's generally tough to sue most crowdfunding campaigns due to the inherent risks and vague platform rules -- but when you look at Kickstarter's terms, I think it's SO clear that this campaign is highly unusual and has breached its end of the deal from so many different angles. And let's not forget that there were also Indiegogo backers as well, who are sadly in the same boat as us. Aside from that, we could also theoretically try approaching Kickstarter. I know they're typically not much help, but again, we're dealing with a situation that's never happened in Kickstarter's history (to my knowledge) where a campaign essentially changed the entire product, brand, team, etc. without our consent rather than delivering a similar product to what we were promised. Then we could also try contacting major media outlets who might be helpful in bringing this matter into the public realm and possibly investigating and/or securing help for us -- sometimes bad press is enough to get a company to refund everyone promptly.
I don't know how Asheem lives with himself. On YouTube, he claims to be a spiritual guru who hangs out with highly revered spiritual leaders around the globe. He's clearly not the person shown on YouTube. It's truly disappointing, as well as peculiar that he's cheating us, and even immaturely posing as Aldo (who cannot be blamed for Asheem's wrongdoings). It doesn't matter that Asheem claims Aldo ran away and stole the company's money -- when Asheem assumed the role of CEO, company's problems and resolving them became HIS to resolve, not "Aldo's"! If he were the spiritual person he professes to be, he would've made this all right from day one. We would've either given us the option to get refunds (and he would have done everything in his power to secure that money for us) or continue on with his new Bringrr plans. This entire situation is truly unbelievable, and I believe its our duty to prevent Asheem from duping more people in the future, whether it's hired employees, backers, customers, investors, etc. We can't let Asheem get away with this -- we've gotta do something as a group to get all of our money back AND prevent Asheem from scamming other people in the future. And that's why I think we need to create a private group for Kickstarter and Indiegogo backers to privately discuss everything and figure out how to handle this matter.
Jeannine Fong on June 29
I wish I could get my money back
David Massard on June 27
Dear All,
Is this project a Scam ... ?
No update for several month.
We back this project, even after the up and down ...
Now I want my money back ... so please refund me ...
Thank you.
Marius Alexandru on June 13
@Alan Hardman: it's hard to fail when you only back 4 projects. That's how many you backed since joining in 2014. I wonder, how many of those where technology projects? I am not 100% convinced that backing a technology project on a crowdfunding platform is the worst idea one could have in 90% of the cases. Technology moves so fast and the market is so full that by the time a project succeeds (in the 40% times that it does) there are already full fledged products on the market that do the same thing, cheaper and offer true warranty and certification.
Alan Hardman on June 10
@Marius Alexandru
For me personally, this is the only project that is a hackjob, everything else up to now has been a success.
But yeah, we're still waiting guys?
hiktur
Superbacker
on June 7
Asheem is just an imaginary character created by Aldo.
Marius Alexandru on June 7
Be honest about kickstarter. Go look at all the pledges you've ever made, remove all the projects you actually really use and leave the rest: the scams, the products that are so bad you would be afraid to use, the ones you don't use at all and so on. Now sum all those money up. Would you still want to back a kickstarter project? EVER?
Malkaven on June 5
I stopped backing projects that have creators with no history because of this one. It was a scam all along.
Stevenx2 on June 3
Maybe you can post some pictures of the parties, drinks and prostitutes you're purchasing with our cash. Would be a nice gesture and we could be happy for you, because it proves our money wasn't completely wasted.
Miles Woodhouse on May 27
The least that you can do is provide us with an update. If it is not going well, just be straight about it....even if only for your somewhat tarnished reputations..
Alan Tong on May 24
Hi
how about the project?
no update information ! no refund !
what are you going to do for backer?
Sandro Augusto on May 21
I want to know if this project will deliver what you promised or if it has been cancelled!!
Alan Hardman on May 19
Nothing updated for a while now, I know that I'll probably never see this product completed or my money back.
Just like a little clarification on whether this is even gonna happen
Laura Ling on May 19
For the most part, I've had really good experiences with Kickstarter. This one, not so much.
Targh on May 11
I've completely written this off as a caution to myself against tech kickstarters. Bunch of con artists.
Emmett Thomas on May 4, 2016
I see you have fallen back into whatever black hole it is that eats all of your communications.
How about an update?
Matthew Tobia on May 2, 2016
Asheem... status update?
Lev Agranovich EA
Superbacker
on April 26, 2016
Internet Scam Alert: Most "Kickstarter" Projects Just Useless Crap. Internet criminals are using a website called "Kickstarter" to bilk friends and families out of money for terrible, ill-conceived, and unnecessary "personal projects."
Lev Agranovich EA
Superbacker
on April 20, 2016
Because crowdfunding is built on trust, it’s ripe for fraud. People solicit money from strangers for their projects, usually through online platforms like Kickstarter, Indiegogo, or GoFundMe. In return, they usually offer rewards—a sample of their product, for example, a commemorative t-shirt, or digital downloads. But whereas in the past, a network of friends and family could vouch for their credibility before contributing cash, today’s “creators” are only as reliable as their promises. And those promises don’t always deliver.
The Federal Trade Commission recently settled its first crowdfunding fraud case against a project creator who scammed contributors out of more than $122,000. Erik Chevalier, using the business name The Forking Path Co., asked for funding to produce a board game called The Doom of Atlantic City, which had been designed by two prominent board-game artists. Nearly 1,250 backers pledged $75 or more hoping to get a copy of the game or one of its prized figurines. Over 14 months, Chevalier provided periodic “updates” on his progress. Then he announced that he was canceling the project.
Agent 17 on April 19, 2016
I keep saying, the smart man would have just let this one crash and burn, rather than taking the reins from a bunch of crooks like Aldo and his goons. Given how long we've gone without an update, I can only assume this one is finally as dead as fried chicken.
Matthew Tobia on April 15, 2016
Asheem what is going on with this project?
Margene Ayers on April 12, 2016
I have been watching and waiting. It's been well over 2 years. No Bringer was ever produced.
896 backers were scammed out of $76,561.00. Here in the USA that amounts to banking fraud. The "CEO" used the internet via Kickstarter and Paypal to steal funds from all of us who thought this was an actual project. It's not a class action lawsuit. I think we are looking at Federal Banking Fraud as the real situation
Backers should find a way to communicate as this fraud is across the USA and possibly some foreign countries.
Such a real shame. It was the photo of the ginger Kitty that drew me in.
I have no more expectation of receiving "Bringrr". I was scammed with the rest.
Laura Ling on April 11, 2016
@Marsha - Here's the bio from their site:
Chris Herbert - CEO and Co-Founder
I went surfing and my key fell out of my wetsuit on the beach. My car was parked below the high tide line and when i came in to move my car, I couldn’t find my keys! Luckily people with metal detectors came by and found my keys before the ocean swept away my car. That made me wish for a easy way to keep track of items.
I like the looks of it, but we've already gotten Tile and DOTT for replacement functionality.
Now, if someone would make something with a longer range, so I can watch where my daughter is in the neighborhood, that'd be great...
Laura Ling on April 11, 2016
I'm in for a few hundred $, so I'd be up for a class action lawsuit. :-)
Aaron Loessberg-Zahl on April 7, 2016
Marsha,
A private group discussion to discuss what, exactly? Unless you're trying to get enough of us together to bring legal action against Asheem et al., I don't think there's much point. Personally, _if_ Asheem manages to produce a product, I'll be happy to just get something out of this campaign at this point, no matter what the form factor. For those of us who have waited two years for Bringrr and haven't already bought one of the numerous other trackers available to replace it, having this product must not really be that high on our priorities list.
In any case, I'd be open to discussing this project among backers in private, but I'm not sure what the best forum for that discussion is. I, too, would like to hear some more suggestions from other backers, as well as if there is any interest in such a thing.
P.S.: Regarding the project creator name, I've never created a successful KS project (or any KS project, for that matter), so I don't know what restrictions there are or aren't on changing the creator's name on a project that has already completed. I would imagine, however, that such a restriction might actually exist for creator names on completed/closed projects, so that they aren't able to make it look like someone else created the project, in case it goes south.