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I believe that he's actually kept funds set aside for publishing as much as I believe he intends this project to ever be completed, which is to say, not at all.
Apologies, I must have skim read his message. He said he does have project funds, but needs them for publishing.
Gareth got back to me after I tweeted a message to him directly. I couldn't find an obvious email address from Kickstarter, but Gareth said he can be contacted at email@example.com for anyone else trying to get hold of him.
Apparently I am now 11th in queue for refunds which he is funding out of his own pocket, the Kickstarter money long gone presumably. I will update when I received the refund so people can be informed how long the process is taking.
Personally I'd prefer the book, but the silence on progress is just too much on top of the length of time this whole thing has dragged on with promises of "almost there". The last "almost there" promise was beginning of May when he said he would be back on track in two weeks. So assuming that happened we've been "back on track" for a month and still no update or progress. It was just the last straw for me.
He offered no excuses or times or dates and was very polite and professional.
Wonder what our next excuse will be.
I've just requested a refund. Let's see what happens.
If he'd been working on the project we would, at the very least, have seen text dumps of the outstanding chapters (like Chapter 11). It's a real shame. I've been looking through the Chapters 1-8 pdf and it looks good.
I don't see how he can possibly be working on the project at this point assuming no updates means no progress. We have obviously been lied to repeatedly given how many years ago we were told it wasn't long to go. Simply dreadful behaviour on Gareth's part. I've defended him in the past because he always replied to backers and provided regular updates, but this latest drought is out of order. He's obviously been doing Cons for money whilst ignoring his obligations.
I watch all those defending Gareth and have to wonder if this is not some new variation of Stockholm Syndrome, Kickholm Syndrome. The longer the kickstarter is delayed, the more ardent the defending backers get despite mounting evidence to the contrary..
"As we get down to the final push, as requested, you're going to be seeing a lot more updates from me. Expect to see at least two per week this month, until the whole shebang is done. Those updates will contain final laid-out chapters, as well as manuscript pages (since those have been requested, too), artwork and more. "
That was now *three months* ago. You owe us something besides yet another excuse.
I am still trying to be positive, but after so much time, and so many excuses, it is impossible to think you are doing anything except playing us for fools.
I am willing to wait a little while longer, providing that there is real evidence of progress or at least a good-faith effort on your part.
However, my expectation is that the next time I contact you, it will be for a refund... and I backed at the Golden Flower level, so it's a good bit of money.
listen to the interview i linked - gareth doesn't need to make excuses, the interviewer does it for him.
or read the blog post http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2017/06/far-west-when-podcast-interview-is.html
Convention season is now upon us - let the excuses flow....
From Chupacabracon IV - May 12 to 14 of this year
Conventions trump all :)
I've just messaged him for an update. The last one was a month ago and he did say he would be back on track in two weeks. Hoping for good news.
'till the end Tom. Either the train will crash into a wall or it will arrive late to station, but arrive none the less. I've backed hundreds of Kickstarters at this point and Far West was in my first 10 backed. Only a small number of those have delivered nothing and gone dark. others are struggling, but they are still in communications. Unless Gareth stops talking completely, I'm still onboard.
3 weeks later...you still on board Gil?
*bump* for Ben McFarland's comment. I'm still on board the crazy-train and eager to see how the ride ends :) Gareth, hope things are better with your emergency.
Hell, if you've been in it this long, buckle in and let the man work the project to completion. It'll be like a random surprise gift when it does arrive. I'm willing to hold out hope he'll deliver; it costs me nothing more at this point and only helps his mental health to not have another voice bagging on him.
Tap Tap. Is this thing on?
I sent Gareth a message through Kickstarter last night and he replied promptly saying "I've been handling a private family matter, and my mind has been elsewhere. I'll get something out there soon."
I hope the issue isn't too serious and hopefully we'll get an update soon.
With the 7 tweets today maybe time could be found for an update here?
Last time I emailed GMS, he mentioned a family emergency. I hope it has passed by now. Still no update, though.
how do you leave 717 backers in suspense?
this is the way! :)
I have been wondering the same thing.
So...ummm....how are all those frequent updates going???
Got my refund. I wish the best of luck to everyone else!
You can e-mail him. His e-mail address is on the front page of his website: http://www.adamantentertainment.com/
Contact him through Kickstarter. He will respond, but be prepared to wait up to a month for the refund. It is going on two weeks since I requested a refund and so far, nada. I am starting to suspect the offer for a refund was just a ploy to remove the most vocal of his critics from this forum and stop the call for people to contact the attorney general in his state. Now that they are gone and silenced, the refund spring will dry up.
How are people contacting him to request refunds? I just sent a message through kickstarter but just occurred to me that it may not be the most ideal as based on how often he comments in here it may not be checked very often.
Ran into this tweet today. Thought it might be appreciated by those here.
Serf mcserfington @MCSerf
reverse iron fist: a chinese girl's plane goes down over the texas wilderness. she returns years later with the mystical art of gunslinging
Eleven days and counting since the most recent refund request..
I sent in a partial refund request to be downgraded from the $50 level to the $10 pdf only level. I still hope the PDF delivers but even if it doesn't the short stories were good and I don't have any issue paying for them.
I received a full refund withing days of asking, so there's that. Good lck to everyone else.
Should you be reading these comments, I wanted to say I'm encouraged by your recent updates. Chapters 1-8 look good and I'm going through the text of chapter 11. Thanks for sharing some of what you have so far. I can't speak for everyone here who is a backer, but it helps seeing movement.
He is honoring requests for refunds, if you are willing to wait up to thirty days for said refund, because they are coming out of his personal pocket. It is actually quite a clever way to silence those with the most dissenting voices on this forum. I opted for the refund, but will only believe it when the money has been transferred to me. I shall wait and see.
Awesome, so he's honoring requests or refunds now? Like, actually refunding and not "Well, too bad, so sad that you're impatient, you will have to wait for your refund till after everyone has gotten their book". That was the second time I asked for a refund. The first time I was told to have patience (2 years after the kickstarter completed) and then a list of like 7 reasons why I couldn't be allowed a refund. This isn't even for me! This was a Christmas gift for my brother in law who has a love of supporting indie RPG's and this was right up his alley. I have moved across country twice since the start of this and "Well I delivered a PDF, doesn't matter if you don't know how to access it or haven't looked at it, you got something, you need to wait till everyone gets their stuff then you get a refund"is pretty much his response.
I still get viciously angry as shit when an "Update" crosses my email.
I have my refund. I wish you all good luck and a long life. Good bye!
I'm going to chime in and give credit to Gareth for honoring a refund. As much as FW might've been the shit, I suggest those who want to, get their money back. I stand by my vitriol and feel Gareth's earned the ire, but when things get that bad, it's no good. For those sticking it out, good luck and may you get what you want.
I'd question the progress comment as this appears to be more-or-less the same file we were given at the end of September in 2012. The file name has changed from Chapter XI to Chapter 11. Gareth, have we really waited 18 months for a rewrite of this chapter when you could have given us chapter 9 and with that a playable game? Weak doesn't even begin to describe this. If all you can share with us is a raw text file what where you going to send out at the end of last year?At this stage you should have been able to share a fully laid out chapter 11. Once again you slap us backers in the face and show yourself to be charlatan.
Bitterness aside glad to see some actual progress.
I messaged him via Kickstarter. We'll see.... I'm WAY past done with this and him.
Message Gareth and you'll get a refund. I told him he needed to do an update saying such, but he said I don't get to make demands. In a nutshell I replied with a "Yes, I most certainly do!".
Part of me wants to keep it as the entertainment value of poking the ass-clown is worth it. :)
So Stacey, calling him an asshole and liar...two things he is...isn't appropriate? It makes you feel sorry life is punching his nuts by way of people speaking the truth? I'm not attacking you, I'm just shocked that anybody can feel a sliver of anything good for him. The guy's a Grade A Turd and needs to be treated as such. It went way past a business interaction the moment he began shitting on the backers. A thing he's done over and over. He's a petulant beta-bitch in the extreme and can't handle his medicine. This hugbox bullshit he's getting on FB is beyond understanding and screw those who are defending him. They're either delusional or complicit. The cognitive dissonance of Skarka & Friends is baffling.
Anyway, I messaged him and he'll give me a refund. WTF?! Now he'll do it? I suggest that everyone do it and punch his wallet as hard as possible.
The man took close to $50,000 of other peoples hard earned money, who invested in this project in good faith, and has yet to deliver a finished product after FIVE YEARS. If this was anything other than a Kickstarter, he would more than likely be facing criminal and civil proceedings . Simply put, I want my money back. He has not operated in good faith and has lied ad nauseum to his backers. After five years, there are simply no excuses left. What pisses me off the most is the man has walked away with $50,000 of other peoples money and will face few, if any repercussions.
Rowdy Scarlett, are your anonymized commenters definitely in the industry, or could they be personal friends of Skarka's, who would naturally sympathize with his problems even if they are self-inflicted? Heck, I'm one of us, knowing GMS only by reputation, and sometimes I feel sorry for him after some of the brutal things said here.
Gareth M. Skarka @gmskarka Mar 1
Behind the scenes: when you run a small game company, there's a bunch of work that needs doing, even on projects you're not designing.
Apparently, that work has nothing to do with Far West....
This is BS... WE ARE THE PROBLEM????
Facebook Lackey#1 People can be awful. I'm so sorry you're going through this.
Like · February 26 at 6:44pm
Gareth Skarka Thanks.
Like · February 26 at 6:48pm
Lackey#2 Hugs, Gareth. I renew my offer to assist with the assholes commenting if you decide not to deal with them.
Like · 1 · February 26 at 6:45pm
Gareth Skarka Sadly, there really isn't anything you CAN do -- comments are only open to backers.
Like · 1 · February 26 at 6:48pm
Lackey #2 Understood.
Like · February 26 at 6:48pm
James Knevitt If there's anything I can do pro Bono that's within my wheelhouse (editing, proofing, layout - which is my day job, FWIW), let me know.
Like · February 26 at 7:49pm
Gareth Skarka I appreciate the offer, but it's down to me at this point. Thanks.
Like · 1 · February 26 at 7:49pm
Too Nice To Skarka #1 Dude just do the work and get it over with. If what you were saying back before Christmas was correct you must be almost done now.
Unlike · 2 · February 26 at 8:20pm · Edited
Gareth Skarka Damn near.
Like · February 26 at 8:30pm
Too nice to Skarka #1 Knock that shit out and be done with it. time to finish her....... I mean it.
Unlike · 1 · February 26 at 8:35pm
Skarka Lackey #3 I second that notion. Get the thing done and you won't have to deal with these assholes anymore.
Like · February 27 at 10:37am
Gareth Skarka Gosh, thanks guys! I never considered that before!
Like · February 27 at 11:03am
Skarka Lackey #4 I'm sorry you're caught up in this.
Like · 1 · February 26 at 8:29pm
So, how is it that ANYONE in the industry has ANYTHING to do with Skarka at this point?
Gareth, I asked you multiple times for a refund and was told no and that the book would be out soon. This was MONTHS ago.
To everyone else, I suggest a mass run at the AG, if possible. I hope that the steaming, toxic wreck of Gareth's legacy will be a cautionary tale for others.
I just emailed him a very simple question, "Where is the book?". I suggest that we all fill his inbox with these messages,.