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The subject of Far West has come up a bit on reddit:
Yeah that would go good with these bitter tears.
Hey folks, how's it going? Have we run out of the onion dip yet? I can run out and get some more.
I tweeted Gareth and got the following response:
"Sorry, Stephen. I didn't get notification of your KS PM. I decided to hold off on updates until I have something concrete to deliver."
"People are tired of hearing "soon" & [incremental progress detail here], so the next time backers hear from me it will be to deliver."
So there you go. I guess we won't hear anything until it's done. Not sure this is the right move, but that's the explanation for the radio silence.
I don't think he paid off the vocal critics - I think he blocked them so he doesn't have to see them anymore and they have a harder time responding to him.
Last update May 1st.
I PM'd him on August 17th and he replied same day with:
"Far West is going VERY well. A shake-up occurred which I'll get into in an update I'll be sending out soon, and it's resulted in a massive boost in productivity.
More news soon."
Never had an update since. I also PM'd in on September 27th and he never replied.
He's still very active on Twitter.
Maybe he thinks he's paid off all the really vocal and critical people and the rest of us don't matter. Why does he behave like this and treating us with such disrespect? I am unable to defend him anymore and lost all patience with him. So disappointed.
holy...it's been so long even "isfarwestoutyet" has gone dead.
what a joke...last update was May?
Ben, there was just an update about that on the Alas Vegas site. Short answer: no.
Someone has a print copy of Alas Vegas? I have PDFs, but no softcover yet.
The link (because I forgot to post it in my last comment):
Someone using the Adamant Entertainment account just commented on Facebook:
"As to FAR WEST, keep your eyes open. We'll be updating Backers first, but will post an announcement here (and on the website) before the end of the year."
That's right, folks: We'll get AN ANNOUNCEMENT by the end of the year. Because that's never happened before. There is no history of announced release dates for this project, and so we have complete faith both that there will actually be an announcement and that said announcement will be accurate in its prediction. We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Westbound kickstarter ended, and we already got the bare bones pdf for proofreading. We'll see if they get me a hardcover by the end of the year, like they say, but they are already way ahead of this one.
Step 1: E-mail Gareth. If (when) he shoots you down, go to step 2:
Step 2: You in the US? Contact your local Attorney General.
Outside of the US? Contact the Kansas Attorney General (as that is where Adamant is headquartered).
Most A/G offices have online contact forms to fill out. Most of the information you need is on Adamant Entertainment's website or here on Kickstarter.
So, how can I get my refund? I'm really tired of this. Even if we get the game (doubtful) I won't ever be able to play it without getting annoyed at it or mock it for the ridiculous time it might have taken to actually be made.
Maybe this time Chapter Eleventy-six fell down a flight of stairs and then his dog ate it. But don't worry folks, he'll release what he's got next week!
As far as I can tell from a brief glance at his twitter (which is pretty active), he appears to be in good health. Helping a friend out with their Renfair booth or something looks like.
I also sent him a PM through Kickstarter on 27th September which he hasn't replied to. He usually replies within hours. Anyone aware of any health or personal issues he might be having?
Unfortunately Gareth appears to have gone silent to me on twitter. I've reached out to him twice since May and gotten no response.
Just pledged to Westbound, an alternate western with more elves and straight up wizards than Deadlands (kind of like that comic by Richard Moore ironically called Far West...really). I'm excited by it, and it already has a free quick start released.
Since I joined Kickstarter to pledge to this Far West, I've pledged to and received several alternate western games, notably several by Pinnacle (three Deadlands releases and 6th Gun) but also Westward, a western kind of frontier game set on another planet.
I guess I'll see if Westbound is another western that will beat Far West to my door, even with the multi year headstart.
In answer to your question of getting the cross promotion PDF, I'd read the latest update on the Paranoia Kickstarter from Mongoose.
@Candice Oh you mean the cross promotion. Sorry. I foolishly backed that one too.
@Candice I did. At the moment I can't remember how. I think it was a DTRPG coupon.
So, out of curiosity, did anyone actually get their PDF copy of Alas Vegas, as mentioned in update #92 (26 Nov, 2014)? I mean, since one of my friends actually has his physical copy and has run it and all, it might be worth asking... I'd like to see at least one game for my ridiculously high pledge.
Very disappointing we've not had an update since 1st May and he's not posted in the comments here since February. He's always quick to reply whenever I've contacted him directly. I suggest folk do that if they are looking for an update.
Personally, I have vowed never to purchase anything involving Skarka again. Once burned by this guy is enough. Face it, folks. The project is dead. Move on. Skarka should be banned from the industry.
The day after I Kickstarted this, I went out on a blind date with a friend of a friend. Two years ago, we got married. We're expecting our first child next year.
Maybe my grandchildren will be able to play this.
... and now I'm blocked on Twitter.
I was initially surprised it took as long as it did, but then someone over on Plus pointed out that I shouldn't be surprised at how long it takes Skarka to do anything - and he blocked me MUCH faster than he's produced Far West.
Per Twitter, "I'm holding off on updating until I have something major & concrete to deliver, instead of just continued reports of incremental progress." - https://twitter.com/gmskarka/status/901136915667316736
Gareth, remember my comment from like 4 years ago? Dude, give us what you have done, show some progress, show some respect, show something. Unfortunately we all see you doing other crap, writing for Star Trek adventures, tweeting, all that.
Give us something. Even if it's just a comment on the 6th anniversary of funding.
Happy Anniversary, all!
As of today, it has been six years since the project funded.
2 1/2 weeks since you tease video on twitter Gareth...
I'm not saying this kickstarter has been a bit dragged out, but I'm now backing second editions of games that I backed when they first came out...
This KS feels about as absurd as a Monty Python sketch. "It's not dead, it's just pining for the fjords"...
Gareth has a non announcement video up on twitter. It's also posted at Tenkar's Tavern. Apparently the word "soon" means something different to Gareth than the general population
I think the image of a tumbleweed blowing forlornly through a ghost town is more appropriate, the sign at the edge of town reads "Far West Kickstarter, Population 0" ;-)
Cricket, cricket..cricket, cricket*
*The cricket sounds were previously recorded. The actual cricket dedicated to this campaign died four years ago..
We never received a completed manuscript. Of the total content of the game I currently have a fairly complete PDF of chapters 1-8, formatted with art and an unformulated rtf of chapter 11. I think the most frustrating thing is that to get the PDF out it's not that far from finished. But I suspect chapters 1-8 were done pretty early and then he's been dragging his heals since then. The only reason this game isn't done is because he hasn't been doing it. He's doing other stuff and ignoring this, offering up excuses instead.
I've just been looking back over the updates. Here's an extract from 19 July 2012,
"So here is our plan: By Friday, August 3rd, we will deliver the manuscript of the FAR WEST Adventure Game (not layout, just the text) to any backer who would like a first look. ( Contact me via email at email@example.com if you would like to be in that group.)"
I'm curious if anyone took Gareth up on the offer and received a copy of the manuscript, mainly as I have a vague memory of Gareth saying some playtesting had been done?
I tend to ignore "launch day" in favor of "funding day," which is more relevant to me.
So did the project.
we missed the 6 year anniversary of the launch of the project yesterday
I believe that he's actually kept funds set aside for publishing as much as I believe he intends this project to ever be completed, which is to say, not at all.
Apologies, I must have skim read his message. He said he does have project funds, but needs them for publishing.
Gareth got back to me after I tweeted a message to him directly. I couldn't find an obvious email address from Kickstarter, but Gareth said he can be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org for anyone else trying to get hold of him.
Apparently I am now 11th in queue for refunds which he is funding out of his own pocket, the Kickstarter money long gone presumably. I will update when I received the refund so people can be informed how long the process is taking.
Personally I'd prefer the book, but the silence on progress is just too much on top of the length of time this whole thing has dragged on with promises of "almost there". The last "almost there" promise was beginning of May when he said he would be back on track in two weeks. So assuming that happened we've been "back on track" for a month and still no update or progress. It was just the last straw for me.
He offered no excuses or times or dates and was very polite and professional.
Wonder what our next excuse will be.
I've just requested a refund. Let's see what happens.
If he'd been working on the project we would, at the very least, have seen text dumps of the outstanding chapters (like Chapter 11). It's a real shame. I've been looking through the Chapters 1-8 pdf and it looks good.
I don't see how he can possibly be working on the project at this point assuming no updates means no progress. We have obviously been lied to repeatedly given how many years ago we were told it wasn't long to go. Simply dreadful behaviour on Gareth's part. I've defended him in the past because he always replied to backers and provided regular updates, but this latest drought is out of order. He's obviously been doing Cons for money whilst ignoring his obligations.