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Touch Lumen and heat of your body will be converted to Light! Everlasting light source that is always with you.
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Progress update: Injection mould is ready

Posted by Rost (Creator)

Hello backers. I apologize that I can't do everything I've promised in a timely manner. My main problem is aluminium and titanium cases. Finally I've finished and tested injection mould. With this mould I'll make all aluminium cases. Titanium cases will be made by another mould. But I hope to make it much quicker.


 I understand that this one don't look cool but any mould for metal is precise and complex piece of equipment and require many finishing touches. I work every day on this project and do my best to deliver what has been promised.

I hope that I'll solve all minor problems that I have with this mould right now. Look what I can make with this mould right now:


Surface is imperfect and I have some technological problems that I'll solve.

I didn't just took your money and went to Hawaii, so sorry for rare updates. I prefer to work on project instead of filming each step and answering on each question.

Allan Ber, Ian Green, and 58 more people like this update.


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    1. Missing avatar

      Sonia on

      It’s been about two years since this post.. Any updates at all, or did you just take our money and go to Hawaii?

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      Paul Simons on

      Where the hell did all the negative comments go? Why thehell delete them? No one here has gotten their shit. Does that mean Kickstarter cares about comments, but not about people getting ripped off?

      More likely than you think.

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      Paul Simons on

      Who else still getting buttfucked on this project?? Sound off!!

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      Don on

      I run a company that makes prototypes- I've done hundreds of creative new ideas, so I know a bit about what it takes. I also know when I'm in over my head and need to turn to some professional service to something I'm not equipped to do well. I think you are in that position now, and you need to look as having the cases built by sub-contracting them to a CNC machine service. Then in a couple weeks you can have a thousand or more. A model or a few samples can be made by hand or simple process, but large numbers need a more professional approach. I suggest you look into that.

    5. stephen luchsinger

      Please take your time and make an awesome product I can use for the rest of my life and perhaps my kids. Just keep up the work :)

    6. Tyler Poelstra on

      I'm happy waiting for a quality product. The only thing that could make the wait better is a quick monthly status report so I know things are still moving forward, only because I'm so excited for this product! Thank you for all of your hard work, please know that I support you in the time it takes to deliver a the quality product I know you aim to create. Thank you very much.

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      I am fine with waiting as well. I too, only want the item to be the best of quality and for that I will wait. Thank you for the hard work!!

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      Thorsten on

      an update would be really nice, maybe you could do one for us? :-)

    9. R. Morgan on

      So long as the product is at the quality level promised and works as described, I am also happy to wait. I kicked a dice project that shipped over a year past the original estimate, but the product that finally shipped was of outstanding quality. So long as you keep us apprised with status updates, I vastly prefer quality over quickness, especially for a device that could conceivably function for many years.

    10. Shyens on

      I have lost all faith in both this project and its creator. Could I please have my pledge refunded?

    11. RobSaint on

      You state machining would take 2 years. I'd rather wit 2 years for a quality product then receive and inferior one. If I'm pledging $100 for a flashlight I expect a decent quality flashlight not a cheaper inferior one. Feel free to ship me a machined one in 2 years if you must.

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      Xipi on

      Hi Rost, Thanks for the update, but rest assured, I have all the time in the world. ;-)

      Now I am no expert, so my apologies if I say something silly here, but have you A) considered a 3D printer that can do metals ? And B) have you considered just commisioning these cases to cheap, but higher quality CNC facilities in for example China ? I am just wondering if you'll get to the high quality finishing in the end with these injection moulds ???

      Anyway, keep up the faith and we'll see it when we'll see it.

    13. Soon Kheng Teik on

      Thx for the update. A high quality product matters. If it's worth the wait. Pls don't deliver yet if u yourself think it's not up to expectations.

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      Bashir on

      Yes, this is great but I don't think anyone will get their pledge. Casting Ti is not the way to go. Anyway, if you cant build the Al body by now I hate to think how long it will it take you to build the Ti units.

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      Aaron Bono on

      Thanks for keeping us up to date. This is what product development is all about. Keep up the great work and thanks for keeping your eye on quality. I would rather a later delivery and get a superior product.

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      David Bakin on

      That's how you learn. Carry on!

      In fact, that's how I learn too. I had no idea titanium pieces could be created via molding or casting - so I looked it up and have learned a little about titanium powder molding. Seems difficult, though.

    17. Scott Gibson on

      Thank you for your reply. I do understand about making stuff. all is good on my side. keep at it.

    18. alonan on

      Thank you for the update, same here, it's all good, I'm willing to wait for a job done right!

    19. Bas on

      I'm worried as well with the thought on how your gonna make the titanium ones. I think CNC milling is the only way to go here. Have you already got all the titanium in? Did you try to mold it?

    20. Ben on

      It's all good! I'm willing to wait for a job done right :thumbsup:

    21. Ethan Burnette on

      all good - take your time - new product means all new ideas and research, not just make&ship. thank you for all your effort, thank you.

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      Billy W Kent on

      No worries, take your time and get it right,we got your back.

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      Robert Latas on

      Keep up the good work, but please update when you can. I do understand some people starting to get a little impatient. I too have been wondering when we would get another update. Do you have a projected target date you are working towards to ship?

    24. Aradi Arpad on

      Hey YOU!
      U R doing WELL!
      Dont stop, Your persistence will have a Benefit!
      we have time to wait for your perfect invention, we already know the risks when we paid for it ;-)
      Keep it going that is my only request :-)

    25. Andy Sandoval on

      Dude just keep at it. Glad to see these updates and have communication with your production. Great job!

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      Rodney on

      I will be very surprised if I ever get what I paid for. For one, I don't understand why the focus on the cheaper aluminum instead of the people that paid for the more expensive titanium ones. I also was under the impression that 3,000 cases were already made per your previous update? When will the people that paid for titanium ones get their product? At this rate, it looks like never. I don't understand why you haven't implemented your original plan and delivered the product months ago as promised.

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      Dimitrios Bogiatzoules

      I've never heard of anyone using a mold to produce a titanium part in small scale with the exception of aerospace companies. I was assuming that you will produce the Lumens using CNC machines and I wouldn't have invested if I had known the mold plan.
      I'm afraid that I'll have to write my investment off but would be delighted if I'm wrong.

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      Erik Suarez on

      Glad to see an update. Don't listen to any of these negative comments on here. Like others have said, take your time and get it right.

      People saying negative comments about your progress and updates are just uneducated in the process of investing in a startup. Things will go wrong. Deadlines will be missed. Those are the risks you take in investing in a startup. Never invest money you can't afford to lose.

      I'm glad you are taking the time to produce a quality product. It's good to see someone who genuinely cares about the quality of the product they produce.

      Crowd funding is a double-edged sword. It's a good way to raise money but then you end up with people who treat it like it's Amazon and they have ordered a finished product. They know nothing of the process of getting something off the ground like you are attempting. Ramping up production isn't always as simple as just placing a bigger order.

      Don't let these impulse buy investors get you down. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the finished product.

    29. Philipp

      Rost, sorry you did not.

      Apparently you gave us wrong information about machining in the past.
      I have no problem with project delays, but I do have a problem with wrong information by creators.
      This does not look good at all... You lost me

    30. Rost 2-time creator on

      Walter, I've just answered this question.

    31. Walter Babigian on

      Philip has a great question. Also why can't they be made with the CNC machine?

    32. James on

      Those look like the cases. In update#3 you were machining those and in update#8 you received aluminum plates... were the plates for melting down and molding instead of machining? With @Philipp point... I thought the cases were already done.

      If for some reason this mold isn't for the case and it's some sort of internal spacer or radiator... it would probably still function just file with minor imperfections and wouldn't be seen unless the case is opened anyway.

    33. Rost 2-time creator on

      Philipp, factory where I've ordered injection moulding of aluminium misinformed me and made pure quality parts as I've shown you on photo.
      Working to make it perfect, as prototypes on video.

    34. Philipp

      So this was "the big update"???

      What about your statement:
      "Guys good news! 3000+ cases of lumen are ready and I should take it from the facility on monday. Soon I'll make big update. "

    35. Calvin Freid on

      Keep up the good work

    36. Rost 2-time creator on

      Rob, one case (2 parts) produced during 2 hours. 3500*2 = 7000 hours = 875 working days = >2 years ;(
      Prototypes and few dozens of test lumens were produced by CNC machine. But can't do all of them in the same way.

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      Larry Thompson on

      Make it right rather than make it soon! Keep up the good work.

    38. Piero Bosco on

      Glad things are progressing :) hopefully you get things sorted soon enough!

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      Damien Cheetham

      We're backers, we're behind you, and you're doing a great job.
      Part of engineering is to solve the real world issues you encounter of provide a great working solution. None of us can predict the future and problems we may run into.
      Your doing fine ....

      I've got a sabertron on order and that's 2 Years behind (and no that is not a record I wish you to beat !)

      Take it from us ... take a break at the weekend, dont burn yourself out.

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      Thorsten on

      Take your time and do it your way! We can wait until YOU are proud of your work so WE can use it as designated. Cheers!

    41. RobSaint on

      Wouldn't it be better to use single blocks of aluminium and machine cut the pieces out. Cleaner, faster, stronger and more precise like the unibody MacBook etc.

    42. Denis Danilin on

      Just keep goin, man :)