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It is sad it still display a big ‘success’ if you look at the project...
Well it is the project that made me stop using kickstarter because how they handled it.
I really don’t mind failed kickstarter projects but they should be forced by kickstarter to communicate about it.
It should be made clear that the crooks at sixense didn’t succeed.
this project is from FIVE FUCKING YEARS AGO and they have delivered NOTHING.
Swindler Took Everyones Money
Two weeks exactly from my post below. Nothing. So now two weeks since they should have started production. All emails to them during this time ignored.
What a total embarrassment of a company - with the likes of HTC / Oculus / Prusa and others thriving, these pathetically inexperienced little minnows have no business at trade shows or in this industry full stop...
So how is the 'updated geometry'? any news on the plastics?
Another year, another fail, sixense just admit your incompetent, and issue those refunds, this is pathetic
I've been patient for a while now. But to find out money is still being thrown around on GDC events rather than refunds is quiet quite maddening. Why would you continue working on anything else at all until you get this handled? I backed this because it was the promise of high end tracking when there wasn't anything out yet for DK1. Now Vive trackers have made the product completely redundant, and all you have left is bad will. Half a decade wait for a technology product is absurd in a rapidly developing field like VR. Save some face and refund us ASAP!
I know it is hypothetical (as this hardware doesn't exist) but IF there would be such a thing as what the Sixense idiots promissed wouldn't that be a excelent addition to a headset like the Oculus GO?
It is now 6 weeks since the March update, where it was stated:-
"We should be receiving 3D printed samples of the updated geometry next week, before we initiate the tool change to do an assembly level check fit to ensure the design update. Assuming that the fix works, the tool change and samples, should not take more than four weeks. We are getting close to be able to start production, so please stay with us through this final phase."
This means production should now be starting. Sixense - can you please confirm this and provide a clear shipping schedule to KS backers... no more excuses. Thank you.
Thanks for the update maarten van grinsven. Kinda good to hear that they actually replaced your prototype at some point.
Is their software usable? Can you use the controllers with the odyssey, vive or rift?
Not sure if they gave you a stem pack of some type, could you stick it on gear vr or somthing else?
Just wondering how compatible they are with other products and how user friendly their software is.
So far they sting us along with updates about plastic but no status on anything else.
So Sixense scam artist where are we? working on the plastics?
My original prototype broke down. i got a replacement version which works doesn't seem to charge the controllers. so I need to charge them with additional usb cables. kinda sucks. also the connection now runs with an additional router, it feels like a step back. I never got the same results (which were pretty good) as with the previous prototype. I have lost faith in this product or it's creators.
Maarten van grinsven, any updates on that prototype they sent you?
ANY UPDATES ON THE T-SHIRTS?
:( My guess is head crook Amir is not wanting to show his head on the floor. Afraid of the questions that will be asked.
Way to pivot and become an archery vr gaming company. Maybe they'll offer up SiegeVR as a consolation prize.
STEM does not exist in the Sixense GDC booth. They seem to promote e sports.
Their updated topic at pre GDC week is also plastic again.
This is a business model that will be exempt the pledge from forever if updating the 3D model of slightly modified plastic every few months.
Someone go to the GDC booth and tell them I want STEM without plastic case! DIY kit! I'll print my own case!
How are we still waiting on these almost 4 years after estimated delivery? I no longer have any use for this. A refund seems very unlikely, but I'd really like my money back on this one... left me with a bad taste for Kickstarters.
Sixense, the smartest thing to do here is offer the legacy drivers you said you'd provide. You've lost major revenue not taking advantage of the fact that Oculus never provided touch support for the DK2 and Vive. There's still a handful of people using the Razer Hydra with SteamVR Hydra driver integration to play the latest VR games (myself included). If you offered current legacy driver support for SteamVR and Oculus Home or at least integrated it with Revive at least people could continue using the Hydra for now and you'd build a driver backbone for Stem integration. We don't want to hear about plastic updates, it's an expected issue and something that should have been rectified a long time ago. The clock is ticking, Oculus and Valve are taking all your potential controller revenue while you continue dragging things out in vaporware fashion.
This kickstarter is the reason I have lost faith in Kickstarters. I have contacted Kickerstarter a number of times about this project but they really don't care. Considering Sixsense is not a new company and has made many other devices, if they cared at all they would have given our money back a long time ago.
SO shame on Kickstarter for letting this continue
Shame on Sixsense for dragging this out
Is it possible to get an update on the development of the tracking technology - both on the hardware and software - side of things?
As well as an update on the internals of each item (base, stem packs and controllers)?
What about the mobile version of the base station or those other stem packs that plug into your phone... ??
Why always updates about the plastic?
The more we post to Reddit the more it will be noticed... Amir Rubin needs be be taken down
@ Kirk Morgar ... totally agree with you post regarding Posting to Reddit about Sixense & Amur Rubin.
2400 sqf = $223200, and that doesn't even get you artwork, union labor for lights and truss, or a booth babe. So yeah, real money, lots of it.
This of course immediately reminds me of how proud they were in their June 23rd, 2016 update when they shared their Eureka moment, tapering the coil housing to cut shipping costs of the plastics from China. Ah, good memories...
I won't be attending GDC, which is probably for the best. I do, however, wish them well.
Mysteriously, Sixsense will also exhibit at GDC this year.
Their booths that are supposed to have not released anything are very huge. It is one third the size of an Amazon booth.
Yeah I already send different mails to all kind of people at Penumbra / the joint venture thingy they are involved with. I just hope that there will be a moment the company Sixense will get burned by it and that people will stop being involved with the crooks at Sixense.
Its the only thing that will work if everybody who they want to con knows about them beforehand. There is no point anyway in keeping this company alive.
Sixense really doesn't check the comments section. The last time they posted here was over two years ago (January 26th, 2016).
But, about that post... People were concerned that, because they weren't returning messages, the schedule might be slipping. Again.
Rest assured, everything was under control, they absolutely would ship in April, and they were even examining ways to ship earlier.
No worries, "it's on".
That was back when they were talking to us... Yes, several more updates, even one in late April, claiming all was on target. They even had a giveaway with AVADirect.
Of course, a week later, on the LAST business day of April, they announced that they really hadn't actually shipped Anything, and they wouldn't be shipping Anything for another 6 months! BUT Hey,they had pretty pictures of Entirely Different hardware, purportedly talking to a Samsung Galaxy S6. Remember those? Yeah, they are up to the Galaxy S9 in a week or so. That's THREE generations of phones since then, and you guys are still on "plastics"?
And yes, lest we forget, the September 2016 update where they actually "Begun manufacturing" but had to delay shipping until December 2016. It'd be the end of January 2017, after a few misleading updates, that we would find out that no, not only had they not shipped anything, they didn't even have their molds ready.
They say "Any sufficiently advanced neglect is indistinguishable from malice". At what point is gross incompetence a willful act? How many times can one make the same mistake before it's deemed intentional?
I used to believe that Hanlon's Razor applied to all things Sixense, but looking back, it doesn't apply. This isn't ignorance of how to manufacture a product, it isn't even that they are bad at it. They have a genuine wanton desire to deceive their customers and investors. They are using subterfuge to avoid both shipping a product or declaring they won't ship a product.
And yeah, they've been spending the past two months trying to figure out why their Forums aren't working on their website anymore. Hours? I can see hours. Months? That's intentional.
I have an idea. Instead of bitch here, bitch on Reddit. Mention Sixense, MakeVR, and Amir Rubin by name, a long with details of how this Kickstarter went. The reason is simple, Google doesn't index Kickstarters, but they DO index Reddit.
Every post you do on Reddit shows up when people want to know about them. A few of us already have. With your contributions, Sixense will never be able to do this again.
And you want to build that mill in 2099? Because before that the plastics will not be done.
I want to build up my own threadmill. Therefore my idea is to use your system for tracking my absolute position in space ....
Is it possible to get an update on the contined development of the tracking technology - both on the hardware and software - side of things?
As well as an update on the internals of each item (base, stem packs and controllers)? Just wondering if these more complicated components will be causing as much difficulty as the plastic exterior is causing.
If Sixense used our funds for the purchase and mining of Bitcoin in 2013, we would have been invited to luxurious cruising and received rewards.
Of course, they would have developed S-T-E-M neo plastic that will never break.
I'm sure they must be using fiber reinforced plastic (ha ha harrr) and so, to prevent the mould from wearing out over time, they've invented a new metal (unobtanium?). This is so hard that, to machine, they had to invent an even harder material that is harder than diamond (stupidlyunobtanium). Even with this, it takes months for even the smallest machining job! So we should all give them a break.
Next update will be somewhere in 2019. Plastics are very hard these days!
With all the plastics issues they are having, I say send mine sans plastic. I'll have the plastics designed an 3d printed within much less time than one of their revisions. Will it be 6 months to add mentioned screw boss? Ffs!!!!
Please refund me. I am out.
"Please believe us when we say that we’re far more frustrated with having to tell you about our plastics difficulties than you are with hearing them."
*Cough* - I think they jury's out on that one!!
What are you all going to do with your STEM system when it arrives in 2021?
I'm torn between selling it for ONE MILLION DOLLARS on ebay or posting a "how to" video on youtube where I set it on fire and put the fire out with a sledgehammer...
I gave up on the technology ever arriving, but I still want my t-shirt. Anyone ever get any T-shirts or did they have to go back to the manufacturer for those too?
We should introduce mold makers with better technology to SIXENSE.
If they cease to suffer from plastic mold problems, this project should really progress.
SIXENSE has not said that STEM has software and electronics problems for over a year now.
Patience guys, good things come to those who wait. E.g. Duke Nukem Forever took 15 years, it takes time for perfection! 11 more years to go only!
Really looking forward to this! I am patient.
6 months since last update and they still having issues with plastic molding, and no real update on the electronics, I don’t think I’ll be doing business with a plastic manufacturer that’s takes this Long to figure out how to make two half come together.
I don't care if the controllers' plastic fall apart. I WANT THE TRACKERS!! To attach on my limbs without line of sight. IT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF STEM AND NOBODY ELSE IS DOING ANYTHING SIMILAR. I'll have other controllers in the hands anyway.
Won't do any good, but I've certainly tweeted Penumbra (https://twitter.com/penumbrainc) to let them know that Sixense walked off with free investment, for no product.
Plastics again :)
Posted to YouTube on Dec 4, 2015, just over 2 years ago. Same with the others. Fireside chat: put on new website on Jan 3, 2018, but it was placed on YouTube on May 26, 2015 (two and a Half years ago). The SiegeVR one they put on website Jan 3, 2017 was put on YouTube on Nov 8, 2016 (only a couple months after posting on YouTube).
Last, the Penumbra joint venture announcement is fairly new, as is MVI Health. I won't elaborate further, pointless really.