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Plastic Ogre miniatures for use with the Ogre Sixth Edition and Ogre Designer's Edition games.
Plastic Ogre miniatures for use with the Ogre Sixth Edition and Ogre Designer's Edition games.
Plastic Ogre miniatures for use with the Ogre Sixth Edition and Ogre Designer's Edition games.
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      Lynn Moore 3 days ago

      @SJG: Good to know, thanks! Been a fan since Car Wars in the 80s...

    2. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator 4 days ago

      @das Grau Geist: Here's hoping! Still a lot of factors, but definitely helps the logistics end. -HS

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      das Grau Geist 4 days ago

      Thanks for confirming.

      I assume this will run *very* smoothly, simply due to the huge reduction in moving parts.

    4. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator 5 days ago

      @Everyone: Survey will be going out this week hopefully, once the Kickstarter funds are finished processing. -HS

    5. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator 5 days ago

      @das Grau Geist: Correct, what you pledged is what you'll get. -HS

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      das Grau Geist 5 days ago

      No pledge manager? OK, that's one way to simplify things, although it also means there won't be pledge upgrades either, correct?

    7. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator 5 days ago

      @Lynn Moore: We will not be using a pledge manager with this campaign, as there are no add-ons. -HS

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      Lynn Moore 5 days ago

      Any word when the pledge manager will launch?

    9. Roland Boshnack on December 4

      Thanks, Hunter! I can't wait to get these little guys in my hands!

    10. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on December 4

      @Roland Boshnack: Congrats, glad that worked out! -HS

    11. Roland Boshnack on December 4

      Phew, practically down to the minute, but I got my pledge through.

    12. Roland Boshnack on December 1

      Be aware, folks: American Express gift cards *cannot* be used for Kickstarter or BackerKit payments.

    13. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on December 1

      @Roland Boshnack: Sorry about that Roland, hopefully the support channel I recommended can help. When it comes to forms of payment through Kickstarter, it's between the bank and the Kickstarter system, but hopefully they can sort it out in time. -HS

    14. Roland Boshnack on November 30

      I've got to admit, I'm in a bit of a panic here. Kickstarter rejected the pre-paid card I was planning on using to pay for my pledge. I've opened a ticket with them, but I'm really worried that the grace period will expire before it gets fixed.

    15. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 30

      But Rivets isn't really germane to this venue -- I've added some stuff over on the BGG forum for Rivets ... chat there if desired.

    16. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 30

      I've seen Martian Metals minis for Rivets. Man, they were atrocious quality, barely passable then, they'd be really bad today.

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      Charles Li on November 30

      Like I had posted, a boxed Rivets set, with plastic minis would be great! It wouldn't have to be anything as complicated as OgreDE.
      If anyone remembers, an old outfit called Martian Metals had licensed the rights to make minis at one time, but they're long gone.

    18. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 30

      I've got my original 'Rivets' sitting here (2nd Bagged Edition). "Game design by Robert Taylor" -- so just as SJ gained his game rights to Ogre/GEV, I suspect this Taylor fellow retained his rights to Rivets, and that's how Decision Games ended up with them.

      I'd love to see Rivets minis ... another long term goal.

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      Nick M on November 29

      Yes. I was sure I remember. In fact, I think I have the original RoboMACs rules printed out and in a 1" binder somwhere. I also remember that some of the examples of situations included dialogue that sounded a bit like dialogue in TF:TM.... only just different enough to be original. I loved that. And I enjoyed playing. Thanks.

    20. Dave Van Domelen on November 29

      Yep. I'm Dvandom of "Dave's Rants" and RoboMACs and stuff. Trent Troop (who did some of the RoboMACs art) now does a lot of Shapeways stuff, much of it for TFs.

      And yeah, not everything from Metagaming went to Steve Jackson Games, apparently. Rivets is wink-and-nod in the OGRE universe...just enough plausible deniability to disentangle the properties without needing to rewrite anything.

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      Nick M on November 29

      So I read back in the comments, and I discovered that Decision Games owns the rights to Rivets somehow. That's interesting. Decision Games is essentially the new incarnation of SPI, one of Avalon Hill's competitors. But to acquire the rights of a Metagaming Concepts game means that one would have to get those rights from the elusive, reclusive Howard Thompson, who guards his properties. SPI also does that. I once made a VASSAL engine module for their very obscure game Chicago! Chicago! and it was removed. I found Rivets, (second edition, or new edition? with 2nd artwork?) on Decision Games' online store, but the title was out of stock. It's all very interesting, yet an enigma.

      Hey, wait. Trent... another Transfan, yes?

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      Nick M on November 29

      Yes. I love Rivets, which many don't realize is in the Ogre universe. I have both editions somehow. I also made my own counters that have a quality similar to Avalon Hill counters.

      Your name is familiar... Like someone I's meet at early TF conventions.

    23. Dave Van Domelen on November 29

      Took me a while, but I found my copy of Rivets, and found I'd written up some solo play rules about ten years back. I typed them into a Google Doc and made some revisions and additions, if you're interested email me (dvandom at gmail) with your preferred GDrive address and I'll give you read access. I also made some record cards for complexes and attack programming in Sheets.

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      Darin Sunley on November 29

      So I know not to look for it for at least a week. That's fine. Take care of yourself, take it easy, and do it right, rather than fast. Thanks!

    25. Philip Reed Collaborator
      Superbacker
      on November 29

      @Darin Sunley - We will share a Triplanetary update soonish. I've discussed with Steve and now need time to discuss with marketing. First, though, I am supposed to take a vacation effective yesterday. I'll be back in one week and then have time to move Triplanetary forward. Please forgive the delays.

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      Darin Sunley on November 29

      Not directly related, but I think there's a significant overlap in the audiences: can we have an update on when the Triplanetary Kickstarter is going to start, if there is a fixed date at this point?

    27. Philip Reed Collaborator
      Superbacker
      on November 28

      Conventions: Steve will be at Origins in June. If you're looking to play Ogre at a convention in 2018, I suggest attending Origins and joining in on the fun.

      http://originsgamefair.com/about-origins/future-dates/

    28. Dal Downing on November 28

      Umm... Set #1?

    29. Michael Campbell on November 28

      Hmmm,now I have to find something to paint until May. Any suggestions?

    30. David Crowell on November 27

      How long before we see the first "will trade Ogre minis for food" post?

    31. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 27

      Hmmm, Visioncon is about four hours from me ....

    32. Roland Boshnack on November 27

      Back to painting minis, too. I've got to finish up the current two copies of Set 1...then three more waiting to be primed...and then three more when I get my Armory box. Hopefully that'll carry me through to when Set 2 arrives!

    33. CON-Troll on November 27

      @Damiain: Thanks for that info! Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend anything until at least August of next year due to obligations. But I bookmarked Visioncon for future reference.

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      Damian Miller on November 27

      for anybody interested, here's one of my cons, feb 2018
      http://www.visioncon.net/

    35. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 27

      Yes, speaking of Ogre Minis KS #3; we'll let the good folks at SJG catch their breath -- and _then start_ pestering them about the next KS.

    36. Dave Van Domelen on November 27

      @Jeff Saxton: I do happen to know a guy with experience in 3D printing and robot stuff, if that helps. Trent Troop, of Prize Inside! on Shapeways. :)

    37. CON-Troll on November 27

      Well, I'm off to resume painting my Set 1. I'm in the process of resurrecting my Fifth (French) Paneuropean Army. Got some ideas for divisional/regimental color schemes. Will post photos on my photobucket in the months to come and link them at the forums and here.
      I'll keep dropping in on my thread at the forums. Thanks to everyone for making this a smash success. Looking forward to Set 3 KS!

    38. DeeJaye6 on November 27

      I pledged what I want, and I want what I pledged.
      An SJ gamer faithful, one hundred percent!

    39. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 27

      @Dave Van Domelen; Not sure how it would work out, Decision Games recently had the reprint of 'Rivets' available in their line (within the last five years) -- so who owns the rights, etc. would need work. I would buy minis, and in fact, the guy I've been meeting for Ogre has some of the Martian Metals minis, and man, they were absolutely junk. Every year or so I dust off the idea, and then shelve it again. If I had 3D CAD modeling skills, I'd draw the Boppers up and put them on Shapeways.

    40. CON-Troll on November 27

      I do like the thought of some of us getting together to run OGRE events at cons we can meet at. Would be a great way to "test the water".

    41. Dave Van Domelen on November 27

      With two successful OGRE minis campaigns finished, it's time for a revival of Rivets! We want BOPPERs!

    42. CON-Troll on November 27

      Okay, OGRECON discussion is now at the forums at: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php…

    43. Jeff "Great Cane of Doom"™ Saxton on November 27

      With as many extras as folks got here, there will be many opportunities to horse-trade colors and units. I really don't need 120 LGEV, so will likely sell off or trade as many as half of them.

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      Walter O'Hara on November 27

      Oh well, maybe another set will show up on eBay, there’s always hope.

    45. wolf90 Collaborator
      Superbacker
      on November 27

      @CON-Troll - Thank you. This is definitely an idea to explore on the forums.
      -DM

    46. wolf90 Collaborator
      Superbacker
      on November 27

      Hunter is correct. Let's walk before we run. We would be ecstatic to have more people running Ogre events at any of the gazillion established cons, whether small or large. -DM

    47. wolf90 Collaborator
      Superbacker
      on November 27

      As much as I would LOVE an Ogre-con, the realities of putting together one are huge. Plus, given that this (& other) Kickstarter is drawing from across the nation, the odds of even 10% (100 people) coming are small.
      But keep thinking those thoughts! I like the idea!
      -DM

    48. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on November 27

      As far as conventions go, I'd recommend organizing some like-minded players to do a convention game or tournament. Usually local conventions are very open to events, because it helps them fill out their schedule and potentially sells tickets (if it's a ticketed convention). You don't have to plan the entire event, just the Ogre part. -HS

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      Walter O'Hara on November 27

      Well, that is unfortunate. I just didn’t need quite that many.

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