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@SJG: Good to know, thanks! Been a fan since Car Wars in the 80s...
@das Grau Geist: Here's hoping! Still a lot of factors, but definitely helps the logistics end. -HS
Thanks for confirming.
I assume this will run *very* smoothly, simply due to the huge reduction in moving parts.
@Everyone: Survey will be going out this week hopefully, once the Kickstarter funds are finished processing. -HS
@das Grau Geist: Correct, what you pledged is what you'll get. -HS
No pledge manager? OK, that's one way to simplify things, although it also means there won't be pledge upgrades either, correct?
@Lynn Moore: We will not be using a pledge manager with this campaign, as there are no add-ons. -HS
Any word when the pledge manager will launch?
Thanks, Hunter! I can't wait to get these little guys in my hands!
@Roland Boshnack: Congrats, glad that worked out! -HS
Phew, practically down to the minute, but I got my pledge through.
Be aware, folks: American Express gift cards *cannot* be used for Kickstarter or BackerKit payments.
@Roland Boshnack: Sorry about that Roland, hopefully the support channel I recommended can help. When it comes to forms of payment through Kickstarter, it's between the bank and the Kickstarter system, but hopefully they can sort it out in time. -HS
I've got to admit, I'm in a bit of a panic here. Kickstarter rejected the pre-paid card I was planning on using to pay for my pledge. I've opened a ticket with them, but I'm really worried that the grace period will expire before it gets fixed.
But Rivets isn't really germane to this venue -- I've added some stuff over on the BGG forum for Rivets ... chat there if desired.
I've seen Martian Metals minis for Rivets. Man, they were atrocious quality, barely passable then, they'd be really bad today.
Like I had posted, a boxed Rivets set, with plastic minis would be great! It wouldn't have to be anything as complicated as OgreDE.
If anyone remembers, an old outfit called Martian Metals had licensed the rights to make minis at one time, but they're long gone.
I've got my original 'Rivets' sitting here (2nd Bagged Edition). "Game design by Robert Taylor" -- so just as SJ gained his game rights to Ogre/GEV, I suspect this Taylor fellow retained his rights to Rivets, and that's how Decision Games ended up with them.
I'd love to see Rivets minis ... another long term goal.
Yes. I was sure I remember. In fact, I think I have the original RoboMACs rules printed out and in a 1" binder somwhere. I also remember that some of the examples of situations included dialogue that sounded a bit like dialogue in TF:TM.... only just different enough to be original. I loved that. And I enjoyed playing. Thanks.
Yep. I'm Dvandom of "Dave's Rants" and RoboMACs and stuff. Trent Troop (who did some of the RoboMACs art) now does a lot of Shapeways stuff, much of it for TFs.
And yeah, not everything from Metagaming went to Steve Jackson Games, apparently. Rivets is wink-and-nod in the OGRE universe...just enough plausible deniability to disentangle the properties without needing to rewrite anything.
So I read back in the comments, and I discovered that Decision Games owns the rights to Rivets somehow. That's interesting. Decision Games is essentially the new incarnation of SPI, one of Avalon Hill's competitors. But to acquire the rights of a Metagaming Concepts game means that one would have to get those rights from the elusive, reclusive Howard Thompson, who guards his properties. SPI also does that. I once made a VASSAL engine module for their very obscure game Chicago! Chicago! and it was removed. I found Rivets, (second edition, or new edition? with 2nd artwork?) on Decision Games' online store, but the title was out of stock. It's all very interesting, yet an enigma.
Hey, wait. Trent... another Transfan, yes?
Yes. I love Rivets, which many don't realize is in the Ogre universe. I have both editions somehow. I also made my own counters that have a quality similar to Avalon Hill counters.
Your name is familiar... Like someone I's meet at early TF conventions.
Took me a while, but I found my copy of Rivets, and found I'd written up some solo play rules about ten years back. I typed them into a Google Doc and made some revisions and additions, if you're interested email me (dvandom at gmail) with your preferred GDrive address and I'll give you read access. I also made some record cards for complexes and attack programming in Sheets.
So I know not to look for it for at least a week. That's fine. Take care of yourself, take it easy, and do it right, rather than fast. Thanks!
@Darin Sunley - We will share a Triplanetary update soonish. I've discussed with Steve and now need time to discuss with marketing. First, though, I am supposed to take a vacation effective yesterday. I'll be back in one week and then have time to move Triplanetary forward. Please forgive the delays.
Not directly related, but I think there's a significant overlap in the audiences: can we have an update on when the Triplanetary Kickstarter is going to start, if there is a fixed date at this point?
Conventions: Steve will be at Origins in June. If you're looking to play Ogre at a convention in 2018, I suggest attending Origins and joining in on the fun.
Umm... Set #1?
Hmmm,now I have to find something to paint until May. Any suggestions?
How long before we see the first "will trade Ogre minis for food" post?
Hmmm, Visioncon is about four hours from me ....
Back to painting minis, too. I've got to finish up the current two copies of Set 1...then three more waiting to be primed...and then three more when I get my Armory box. Hopefully that'll carry me through to when Set 2 arrives!
@Damiain: Thanks for that info! Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend anything until at least August of next year due to obligations. But I bookmarked Visioncon for future reference.
for anybody interested, here's one of my cons, feb 2018
Yes, speaking of Ogre Minis KS #3; we'll let the good folks at SJG catch their breath -- and _then start_ pestering them about the next KS.
@Jeff Saxton: I do happen to know a guy with experience in 3D printing and robot stuff, if that helps. Trent Troop, of Prize Inside! on Shapeways. :)
Well, I'm off to resume painting my Set 1. I'm in the process of resurrecting my Fifth (French) Paneuropean Army. Got some ideas for divisional/regimental color schemes. Will post photos on my photobucket in the months to come and link them at the forums and here.
I'll keep dropping in on my thread at the forums. Thanks to everyone for making this a smash success. Looking forward to Set 3 KS!
I pledged what I want, and I want what I pledged.
An SJ gamer faithful, one hundred percent!
@Dave Van Domelen; Not sure how it would work out, Decision Games recently had the reprint of 'Rivets' available in their line (within the last five years) -- so who owns the rights, etc. would need work. I would buy minis, and in fact, the guy I've been meeting for Ogre has some of the Martian Metals minis, and man, they were absolutely junk. Every year or so I dust off the idea, and then shelve it again. If I had 3D CAD modeling skills, I'd draw the Boppers up and put them on Shapeways.
I do like the thought of some of us getting together to run OGRE events at cons we can meet at. Would be a great way to "test the water".
With two successful OGRE minis campaigns finished, it's time for a revival of Rivets! We want BOPPERs!
Okay, OGRECON discussion is now at the forums at: http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php…
With as many extras as folks got here, there will be many opportunities to horse-trade colors and units. I really don't need 120 LGEV, so will likely sell off or trade as many as half of them.
Oh well, maybe another set will show up on eBay, there’s always hope.
@CON-Troll - Thank you. This is definitely an idea to explore on the forums.
Hunter is correct. Let's walk before we run. We would be ecstatic to have more people running Ogre events at any of the gazillion established cons, whether small or large. -DM
As much as I would LOVE an Ogre-con, the realities of putting together one are huge. Plus, given that this (& other) Kickstarter is drawing from across the nation, the odds of even 10% (100 people) coming are small.
But keep thinking those thoughts! I like the idea!
As far as conventions go, I'd recommend organizing some like-minded players to do a convention game or tournament. Usually local conventions are very open to events, because it helps them fill out their schedule and potentially sells tickets (if it's a ticketed convention). You don't have to plan the entire event, just the Ogre part. -HS
Well, that is unfortunate. I just didn’t need quite that many.