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Always when it comes to SJG goodies! More Ogres is always better!
Is anyone else champing at the bit waiting for all this plasticy goodness to get here?
@Chris: What he said, just this survey, no BackerKit. -HS
@Chris - yeah, it's too late to upgrade. There's no pledge manager, so what you pledged at the end of the KS is what you get.
Insane Question: Is it too late to upgrade to "Too Many Minis"?
I figure Garfield is right: The noose is around my neck; I may as well jump off the horse.... :)
@Gero: Please email your information to Kickstart@sjgames.com, we can refund you. -HS
I just realised that this only ships into the US. So makes no sense for me (Germany). Is there someone who would like to take over my pledge? Or can I cancel it?
I'd be more inclined to just mount a small magnet to the bottom of each unit and keep them on a thin sheet of steel attached to the bottom of an appropriately sized box.
I need to stop faffing about with things like 'doing laundry' and 'feeding the dog' and get priming / painting...I've got a preposterous pile of plastic coming in just a few months!
I also need to get a few curious looks at Home Depot...I'm more or less buying small parts organizers by the case at this point. Same for Dick's Sporting Goods...gotta find a Plano deep enough for a Mk.VI [the tallest one, I think?], and then get enough of those to hold, erm, 84 Cybertanks and counting...
There may be a shortcut to painting all those mini's, if you want to keep them the same color as the plastic they are cast in. I know a lot of doll re-painers on YouTube use this matte clear coat called "Mr Clear Spray" to prime the dolls for painting. Apparently the stuff will at least stick to some kinds of plastic and does provide a surface to paint on. If it works on these minis, then it may be a great shortcut for those that just want to go paint a few details, wash, dry brush highlights, then seal up.
@das Grau Geist: Lots of stuff happening coming back from break, update is coming today to let everyone know that missed it and post the deadline.
@Dan Cyr: We aren't able to update the actual pledge levels on the campaign, so it shows the base level. The "applicable stretch goals" is what indicates the additional minis, you aren't going to be missing out on any plastic.
@Jean McGuire: TOO MANY MINIS! -HS
I'm a little surprised that there wasn't an Update to tell people that KS Survey is open (and needs to be completed to get your stuff!), but I finished mine, and look forward to Q2 delivery!
The survey also says "And all applicable stretch goals" -- so that adds the missing numbers of minis.
Odd survey came. I bought the $75 package, which includes 6 sets: red, blue, grey, green, glow in the dark, basic set 1 grey and black miniatures. About 375 miniatures I believe.
Survey told me that I was getting the red, blue, green and grey sets, a total of 150 miniatures.
Problem here or just not all of the add ones not included?
So, I got the shipping address survey ... for some reason, that makes it feel more real. Also more terrifying -- I bought HOW MANY miniatures? And all of the non-glowy ones need paint? If you need me, I'll be under my desk....
@Bill Gibson: We offered extra sets in the last campaign because we had individual add-ons, this set will not have additional add-on sets.
This created a massive logistical issue during delivery of OMS1, so we stuck with the I Want It All style boxes, and created additional pledges for those boxes, but not individual sets. This let us give more minis per dollar during the campaign as well. -HS
No pledge manager? What if I wanted to grab a few extra reverse color sets?
@SJG: Good to know, thanks! Been a fan since Car Wars in the 80s...
@das Grau Geist: Here's hoping! Still a lot of factors, but definitely helps the logistics end. -HS
Thanks for confirming.
I assume this will run *very* smoothly, simply due to the huge reduction in moving parts.
@Everyone: Survey will be going out this week hopefully, once the Kickstarter funds are finished processing. -HS
@das Grau Geist: Correct, what you pledged is what you'll get. -HS
No pledge manager? OK, that's one way to simplify things, although it also means there won't be pledge upgrades either, correct?
@Lynn Moore: We will not be using a pledge manager with this campaign, as there are no add-ons. -HS
Any word when the pledge manager will launch?
Thanks, Hunter! I can't wait to get these little guys in my hands!
@Roland Boshnack: Congrats, glad that worked out! -HS
Phew, practically down to the minute, but I got my pledge through.
Be aware, folks: American Express gift cards *cannot* be used for Kickstarter or BackerKit payments.
@Roland Boshnack: Sorry about that Roland, hopefully the support channel I recommended can help. When it comes to forms of payment through Kickstarter, it's between the bank and the Kickstarter system, but hopefully they can sort it out in time. -HS
I've got to admit, I'm in a bit of a panic here. Kickstarter rejected the pre-paid card I was planning on using to pay for my pledge. I've opened a ticket with them, but I'm really worried that the grace period will expire before it gets fixed.
But Rivets isn't really germane to this venue -- I've added some stuff over on the BGG forum for Rivets ... chat there if desired.
I've seen Martian Metals minis for Rivets. Man, they were atrocious quality, barely passable then, they'd be really bad today.
Like I had posted, a boxed Rivets set, with plastic minis would be great! It wouldn't have to be anything as complicated as OgreDE.
If anyone remembers, an old outfit called Martian Metals had licensed the rights to make minis at one time, but they're long gone.
I've got my original 'Rivets' sitting here (2nd Bagged Edition). "Game design by Robert Taylor" -- so just as SJ gained his game rights to Ogre/GEV, I suspect this Taylor fellow retained his rights to Rivets, and that's how Decision Games ended up with them.
I'd love to see Rivets minis ... another long term goal.
Yes. I was sure I remember. In fact, I think I have the original RoboMACs rules printed out and in a 1" binder somwhere. I also remember that some of the examples of situations included dialogue that sounded a bit like dialogue in TF:TM.... only just different enough to be original. I loved that. And I enjoyed playing. Thanks.
Yep. I'm Dvandom of "Dave's Rants" and RoboMACs and stuff. Trent Troop (who did some of the RoboMACs art) now does a lot of Shapeways stuff, much of it for TFs.
And yeah, not everything from Metagaming went to Steve Jackson Games, apparently. Rivets is wink-and-nod in the OGRE universe...just enough plausible deniability to disentangle the properties without needing to rewrite anything.
So I read back in the comments, and I discovered that Decision Games owns the rights to Rivets somehow. That's interesting. Decision Games is essentially the new incarnation of SPI, one of Avalon Hill's competitors. But to acquire the rights of a Metagaming Concepts game means that one would have to get those rights from the elusive, reclusive Howard Thompson, who guards his properties. SPI also does that. I once made a VASSAL engine module for their very obscure game Chicago! Chicago! and it was removed. I found Rivets, (second edition, or new edition? with 2nd artwork?) on Decision Games' online store, but the title was out of stock. It's all very interesting, yet an enigma.
Hey, wait. Trent... another Transfan, yes?
Yes. I love Rivets, which many don't realize is in the Ogre universe. I have both editions somehow. I also made my own counters that have a quality similar to Avalon Hill counters.
Your name is familiar... Like someone I's meet at early TF conventions.
Took me a while, but I found my copy of Rivets, and found I'd written up some solo play rules about ten years back. I typed them into a Google Doc and made some revisions and additions, if you're interested email me (dvandom at gmail) with your preferred GDrive address and I'll give you read access. I also made some record cards for complexes and attack programming in Sheets.
So I know not to look for it for at least a week. That's fine. Take care of yourself, take it easy, and do it right, rather than fast. Thanks!
@Darin Sunley - We will share a Triplanetary update soonish. I've discussed with Steve and now need time to discuss with marketing. First, though, I am supposed to take a vacation effective yesterday. I'll be back in one week and then have time to move Triplanetary forward. Please forgive the delays.
Not directly related, but I think there's a significant overlap in the audiences: can we have an update on when the Triplanetary Kickstarter is going to start, if there is a fixed date at this point?
Conventions: Steve will be at Origins in June. If you're looking to play Ogre at a convention in 2018, I suggest attending Origins and joining in on the fun.
Umm... Set #1?
Hmmm,now I have to find something to paint until May. Any suggestions?
How long before we see the first "will trade Ogre minis for food" post?
Hmmm, Visioncon is about four hours from me ....
Back to painting minis, too. I've got to finish up the current two copies of Set 1...then three more waiting to be primed...and then three more when I get my Armory box. Hopefully that'll carry me through to when Set 2 arrives!