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35 years after the first publication of OGRE, we're coming back with a massive new edition, and YOU can make it better.
5,512 backers pledged $923,680 to help bring this project to life.

Launch Party and Delivery Dates

We know you’ve been waiting patiently for this announcement (I’m sorry it’s taken so long). Except for a few minor corrections -- for instance, some crossed wires over the latest file for the rulebook -- Ogre is now officially in manufacturing (cue delirious cheering here at the office). Following manufacturing comes assembly, then shipping, and then . . .

. . . the Launch Party will be on Saturday, October 19 in Austin. Folks who attend will be the first to get the game. Watch this space for the registration announcement, coming soon. For those of you who can't make it to the party (we'll miss you), we'll start shipping your games (and extras!) from our warehouse on Monday, October 21.

This date is final, barring something unexpected. We think there won’t be any delays from here. What could go wrong? Something happening to the factory; assembly issues; enemy cyberships lying in wait outside Hong Kong harbor; BGG-Zilla coming to life and stomping all over. You get the picture.

Why It Took So Long

We screwed up, period. We underestimated the size of the game, and the effect your support had on what comes in the box. (Thank you!) Once again, we’re sorry. We really appreciate the grace you’ve shown. 

The following pictures and video help indicate just how much game you’re getting. We’re not kidding when we say that something this epic has never been attempted in the industry before.

“I think we’ve created a monster…”

“…and you helped us!”

The counter sheets alone are bigger than some games (we hope the Munchkin editor isn’t watching!)

“So, tough guy, I’ll bring twenty of my guys to show you who’s boss, and . . . oh, nevermind.” 

(Bonus alt caption: the twenty-two games on the right are $24.95 each. The one on the left is $100. You do the math . . . )

-- Daniel Jew

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    1. Creator AstralWanderer on June 6, 2013

      @Stephen Rochelle: "Think of the spinoff possibilities..."
      OGRE : Designer's Edition. 1,000+ piece jigsaw. Can you complete it before the real Ogre arrives?

    2. Creator Graham Brand on June 6, 2013

      Any chance of webcasting the launch party, so that we can all be there?

    3. Creator Jim Vanderveen on June 5, 2013

      That is one serious box full of AWESOME! And the October-November timeframe actually works out well: holidays and long evenings filled with OGRE-y goodness.

    4. Creator Stephen Rochelle on June 5, 2013

      @Philip Reed: Think of the spinoff possibilities, though. Run a contest for "best punch-all-the-counters-at-once unboxing video"! What determines "best"? That's half the fun! My money is on whoever first invokes fire.

    5. Creator Philip Reed on June 5, 2013

      @sgbeal - You joke, but one of the things that keeps me awake at night is dreading the mail when someone doesn't "Read Me First" and punches all of their counters.

    6. Creator twb3 on June 5, 2013

      Looking forward to the launch party and getting my hands on this beast. I'm jealous of the 15' table - the one in my game room is only 12' :)

    7. Creator sgbeal on June 5, 2013

      i'm a bit concerned that the "READ ME FIRST" text might be a bit too small and be overlooked ;).

      It looks absolutely fantastic - far beyond what i'd imagined. A huge round of applause for SJ and his faithful team!

    8. Creator KevinR on June 5, 2013

      @DropDeadCriminal -- note that all the maps have been split into two boards due to the sheer size. So, there is now a G1(N) and G1(S) board, rather than being a single GEV board and O(N) and O(S) rather than a single Ogre board. Pictures are blocked where I am, but I think that they have the boards with the south half on the near side of the table and the north half on the far side, with the box and paperwork in the middle. You're probably seeing what looks like 2 orange maps and 8 green maps, when those are really 2 orange half-maps and 8 green half-maps.

    9. Creator Steve Jackson Games on June 5, 2013

      @DropDeadCriminal - all 5 maps are shown in the pictures and video; they really are that size. I believe everything shown in the top photo is what comes in the box. Minus SJ and Daniel of course, we're keeping them.
      ~Brandon

    10. Creator DropDeadCriminal on June 5, 2013

      What are you actually measuring in that video? There appears to be more maps on that table than come in the game.

    11. Creator Scott Walker on June 5, 2013

      Very good point. It's not just Car Wars, but Kickstarter in general. I think we are seeing Kickstarter's "Usenet Eternal September".

      I mean, Compleat Munchkin of course could only be started after Car Wars! In a bar somewhere, a nervous piano player resumes playing an upbeat tune. Disaster averted.

      Ok, how about SJG creating a Kickstarter board game? Can your project succeed? Can you survive the throngs of backers confusing Kickstarter with Walmart layaway? Can your idea survive a fickle media and backers? Winners become the darlings of an industry, losers are ground to dust beneath specious lawsuits and angry whimsical once-supporters. SJG is good at spoofing genres; a Munchkin Kickstarter variant is ripe for the picking. Hmmm, the "Hacker" game was created in part out of Steve's own experience; and this has definitely been another experience -- in a good way!

    12. Creator AstralWanderer on June 5, 2013

      @Scott Walker: "Hmmm, could this be the beginning of another Kickstarter?"
      Not unless you want to see a mass-lynching from the Car Wars crowd - they're killers I tell you... :)

    13. Creator Scott Walker on June 4, 2013

      @KevinR -- Compleat Munchkin, wow. Even though I have some of the Munchkin line already, I'd be real tempted to get that. Hmmm, could this be the beginning of another Kickstarter?

    14. Creator Thomas Smith on June 4, 2013

      Yes indeed I'll be at the launch party. Bet I'll be going with at least 1 fellow gamer as well.

    15. Creator XeonicIce on June 4, 2013

      OCTOGRE?!?!

      Still not sure how it went from June a few weeks ago to October but I'm still looking forward to it...

    16. Creator Tim Sherrill on June 4, 2013

      October 19? Perfect! You make up some very believable excuses for the delays, but truly, I know that you wanted to wait to release this for my 40th BIRTHDAY!

    17. Creator james prevott on June 4, 2013

      Maybe attendees could get a teaser about the upcoming Cars Wars? Or even a special level/ place/ for that upcoming ks. I would like to pick that one up as well. San Antonio is a short drive. And I know I would ( and a couple of friends ) would love to pick up their copy at the Mothership. Wouldn't hurt to encourage the people already slavering for Cars Wars (and probably anything else you care to develop and release). Already have roadtrip planned. Can't wait.

    18. Creator wolf90 on June 4, 2013

      You know what's really amazing? The birds eye view and the video of 15+ feet are only of the sheets that are in the KS version of the game...it doesn't even include the 13 different sheets from the sponsored sets!
      .
      and @ AstralWanderer...was that Monopoly game commercially available? I think not!
      ;-)
      .
      Find the sponsored sheets here: http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/sponsored-counters/

    19. Creator Steve Jackson Games on June 4, 2013

      @Leonard - if you ordered any extras that were not Car Wars shirts, they will arrive when the game arrives.
      ~Brandon

    20. Creator Pedro Benitez on June 4, 2013

      Brian Davis I aggree whole heartedly with everything you said. Except in my case i'm the dad that intro'd his kids to OGRE LOL!

    21. Creator Karl Gallagher on June 4, 2013

      Yay, the music is coming! I've been looking forward to that all along.

    22. Creator Leonard Hollar on June 4, 2013

      I may have asked this before, or it was answered for someone else, but when one gets to my age, one tends to forget things: Are the "T" shirts going to be in the shipment with the game, or were they sent out and I haven't received mine?

    23. Creator Royce Day on June 4, 2013

      You know, I can't really justify spending over $500 for a quick flight to Austin just to get my copy a few days early. Even if I could take it as a carry on, since I'm getting the bag as well.

      Then again, I couldn't really justify paying $150 for the game in the first place...

    24. Creator Jon Duke on June 4, 2013

      My only disappointment for backing this is that I will not have the carry bag GenCon. I was looking forward to having an epic scale loot sack. I figure if it can hold Ogre it can hold anything the con can dish out. Next Year!

    25. Creator Brian Davis on June 4, 2013

      First, I'm happy to have backed this project, delays and all. You tried something new, in a way that's not been done before... and got a lot (a WHOLE lot) of us to try something new as well. So, yeah... I wish I had the Huge Box Of Heavy Goodness right here, right now. But I'm understanding about the wait. That said...

      "Update #86... Why It Took So Long... We screwed up, period. We underestimated the size of the game, and the effect your support had on what comes in the box. (Thank you!) Once again, we’re sorry"

      THIS is the most impressive part of this. On a fantastically late project... your response is a very simple, honest, "we messed up". That impresses me more than you perhaps know. And the fact that this is coming in update #86, meaning you have Kept Your Customers In The Loop (in a really wonderful, and spectacular way... I've learned more about game publishing than I ever thought there was to know), speaks volumes for you.

      So from a guy who played Ogre with his father... and who will now get to play the huge mega-sized version with his son...

      THANK YOU ! !

    26. Creator Steve Jackson Games on June 4, 2013

      @Michael Carson - when the orders ship they will include all the extras except the Car Wars shirts which were already shipped.
      ~Brandon

    27. Creator KevinR on June 4, 2013

      @SJ: "Though we lose money on each one, we make it up in volume?"
      Looks like you've got 'volume' taken care of with the box.
      .
      Speaking of which, now that you've figured out how to make and ship ridiculous-sized boxes, how about a "Compleat Munchkin"? Looks like you could fit the entire line in an Ogre box (in their usual packaging)...

    28. Creator AstralWanderer on June 4, 2013

      @SJ: "On the one hand I am being frivolous. Frivol, frivol..."
      Like that's never happened before. :) Looks like someone's demob happy at passing everything off to the factory to finish up...

    29. Creator Jan Hendriks de Geweldenaar on June 4, 2013

      Will there be any boxes at Spiel?
      Which this year is a week after the launch date.

    30. Creator Steve Jackson Games on June 4, 2013

      Gregory - I made that exact proposal to Geek Chic (http://www.geekchichq.com/), creators of the best game tables I have ever seen. No reply. Maybe Robert thought I was kidding :/ Those guys are terribly busy creating said awesome tables. I am sure that someday someone will send me a picture of legs and a frame holding an Ogre box. A battlesuited figure would make a good telamon . . .

      Tom - Cool. Another reason to look forward to Origins!

      Lawrence - Errr . . . Though we lose money on each one, we make it up in volume? (Snerk. On the one hand I am being frivolous. Frivol, frivol. On the other hand, I have heard people say that in apparent seriousness.)

      -- SJ

    31. Creator AstralWanderer on June 4, 2013

      @Legion
      You'll need to contact each backer separately for those sheets I'm afraid - see http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/sponsored-counters/ and http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php… for details. They won't be available in W23 for at least a year after launch, and even then only in limited quantities.

    32. Creator KevinR on June 4, 2013

      @Legion -- the BGG-Zilla sheet is one of the sheets arranged by the $4.5K backers. It will need to be purchased separately from BGG, presumably through their storefront. The other $4.5K sheets are described at the link below, along with links where some are already available for pre-order.
      http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/sponsored-counters/

    33. Creator Legion on June 4, 2013

      Re: the BGG-Zilla link: I want all of those counter sheets. Are they going to come in my $100 pledge chest o' treasure or should I run them all down through the Warehouse as a separate order?
      Either way, victory is mine!

    34. Creator Michael Carson on June 4, 2013

      Will the extra (shirts, hats, dice, patches, shot glasses, etc) be shipping at the same time? If not, is there an estimate on them? You know, in case getting the game put together hasn't been enough to keep y'all busy.

    35. Creator AstralWanderer on June 4, 2013

      @Rick Chan: "I'm worried about the actual shipping of the game... the game is big enough as is... will you be putting it in a bigger and padded box to make sure it doesn't get damaged in transit to us?"
      The Ogre box will be inside a shipping carton (the counters will be shrink-wrapped to the outside of the Ogre box since there's not enough space for them inside) - see http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/847271320/ogre-designers-edition/posts/411194#comment-2308667 so it should be well protected. Not so sure about the container ship hauling all those boxes though...

    36. Creator AstralWanderer on June 3, 2013

      @SJG: "The counter sheets alone are bigger than some games (we hope the Munchkin editor isn’t watching!)"
      It looks like you could drop in a few Munchkin boxes - just to fill that empty space due to the Ogre counters being shipped outside the box. :)
      @Joshua Megerman: "I think that there are people out there who just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something."
      Given that SJG have repeatedly offered refunds in the past, I suspect you'll find anyone still complaining is impatient rather than grouchy - an 11-12 month delay is nowt to be sniffed at. Hopefully this date won't slip (on cue Typhoon Ogre starts forming in the Pacific...) but it looks like November for international backers (and likely longer if Customs starts asking questions...).

    37. Creator AFrag on June 3, 2013

      I am excited! I have never even played Ogre, but had been longing for it since childhood! When I saw that this edition was finally going to be released, there was no doubt I was going to support it. Quite frankly, I am intimidated! This is a lot of freakin' game and my game cabinet is crying mercy as it is... Time to hire a carpenter!

    38. Creator Don Hanson on June 3, 2013

      Woo-hoo! Long wait but never any doubt it would happen or that you guys would ship anything less than awesome. My office is getting cleaned (cleared) out to make room. :-)

    39. Creator Dave Doolin on June 3, 2013

      I'm with Joshua.

      For anyone truly unhappy with the wait, I'd be absolutely delighted to acquire your order... I only bought two (One for me, one to save), but I wish I had bought extra as gifts to friends who missed out on the Kickstarter.

    40. Creator Joshua Megerman on June 3, 2013

      I think that there are people out there who just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something. My only complaint is that Austin is so far from me, and that as a result attending the party just isn't going to happen. But I'm totally psyched that I now have a concrete date as to when I can start checking for a package when I get home every day :)

    41. Creator Gregory M. Becker on June 3, 2013

      One of the pledge levels should have included four legs to allow the box to double as an attractive end table :-)

    42. Creator Robert on June 3, 2013

      Congrats :)

      I'm a little amazed at the bitter responses, grumps and negative posters, but it just goes to show that being open, honest and humble still isn't enough for for too many people.

      Wish I could make it to Austin to celebrate. That should be a good time

    43. Creator David Culp on June 3, 2013

      When I saw the original estimated delivery date I thought "they are NEVER going to make that!" I never once thought I wouldn't get the game and I didn't mind the delays at all. Thank you for doing this, I am sure this is a labor of love for you as I am positive you are making very little on the deal! Thanks for bringing my childhood back!

    44. Creator DropDeadCriminal on June 3, 2013

      There are 5500 backers to this project. Start shipping on Oct 21st does not mean a lot. A better date would be all shipped by.

    45. Creator Scott Walker on June 3, 2013

      I have no regrets in backing this project; none at all. This is going to be well worth the wait. And when the Car Wars project kicks off, I will throw money at it as heartily as I did this. And if that takes a year, I will not care at all, because that will be worth the wait also. SJG does games good, er, gooder, uh, gooder-er! Goodest?

      Hmmm. All my other SJG games may be a little intimidated by this addition, indeed.

    46. Creator Meiers on June 3, 2013

      I live not to far from Austin. I hope to attend barring work conflicts.

    47. Creator Pedwidge on June 3, 2013

      Seeing it all laid out like that is just amazing. I can't wait to get my copy!

    48. Creator KevinR on June 3, 2013

      @Rick -- the case size is 1, so each copy of Ogre will be shipped (China->Austin and Austin->backers) in a separate heavy cardboard box that is appropriately sized.

    49. Creator Andrew Beckmann on June 3, 2013

      Thank you for the great update and add me to the list of people who are seriously anticipating this version of the game. I still have my poorly hand cut chits from an early 1980's Ogre version that's in desperate needs of an upgrade - and it's coming in a few short months!