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Nightfall Shipping Solution


Welcome to 2015 and the first Ogre Designer's Edition update of the year!

In Update #176, we mentioned that we were working on a solution to the Nightfall sponsored sheet delivery problem. We wanted to make sure we had a feasible way forward before getting any hopes up, and we're very pleased to announce that we -- Steve Jackson Games -- have taken over the shipping of the Nightfall counter sheets . . . and the first sets have already started shipping!

If you pre-ordered the counters with Fire Mountain Games and don't yet have your sheets- do not fear. We have their list of unfulfilled orders are working from that. We will post a comment to this update once the last of the pre-ordered sheets have been shipped. If we have any questions about your order, we'll contact you for more information.

Additionally, the book promised by Fire Mountain Games is being produced by Steve Jackson Games. We have the Fire Mountain Games materials and have started work on completing the project. Once we have finished we'll release this in PDF. At this time we don't have an expected release date for the PDF, but when we have information we'll post an update here.

Thanks for your patience!

-Jen Atkinson

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    1. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on March 11, 2015

      @Sean - I've passed your message along already, but for anyone who still has not received sheets and feels they should have, please contact us at so our Shipping Team can look into the matter for you, thanks! - Brandon

    2. Sean K King on March 6, 2015

      My sheets still have not arrived.

      I had given him my updated address and have email to show. Plus have paypal statements to show purchases.

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      Charles Booth on February 4, 2015

      THANK YOU Jen and STEVE JACKSON GAMES for following up on this Fire Mountain Games issue and delivering to me my order- I really appreciate it and you have a life-long supporter for going the extra mile (of course I have ALWAYS been a life-long SJG supporter, lol!). I was really pissed off at Fire Mountain for being lying, cheating, no-response bastages- and that's not going to change- but now at least I have everything OGRE that I paid for. THANKS sooo much again! Onward to the CAR WARS KickStarter!!

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      Tim Pollard on February 3, 2015

      Wow - I'm late to notice this update so many apologies to SJG as I emailed you to tell you my counters had finally arrived, little knowing it was you that had sent them!

      Thank you so much, as others have said it's well above and beyond - but very much appreciated. You guys rock!

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      Michael J. Raymond
      on February 3, 2015

      I have not gotten mine.
      I hope all is well.
      Mike Raymond

    6. sgbeal on January 31, 2015

      i had COMPLETELY forgotten that i ordered these, and suddenly they arrive on my doorstep (in Germany) on Jan. 28th, 2015. THANK YOU, SJG, for taking this upon yourselves - that was above and beyond any obligation you had to backers, and we appreciate it.

    7. Peter T on January 22, 2015

      My sheets showed up today. Thanks again for following this through the end and beyond.

    8. Mike on January 17, 2015

      Thank you SJ Games.. my Fire Mountain sheets showed up today from Warehouse 23.. you guys rock.

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      Jason Miller on January 15, 2015

      Anyway, this isn't the place for the intricacies of the English language. Go SJG!!!!

    10. Ed Holzman on January 15, 2015

      Jason, OIC. Tripped over my own words. Doh!

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      Jason Miller on January 15, 2015

      Ed, I agree with your sentiment, but with the word " underestimate", you're saying the opposite of what you mean. What you want to say is "you cannot overestimate how much good will ....". Ie: you can try to quantify this amazing gesture, but whatever number you come up with, it would be too low.

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      daniel b trimble
      on January 15, 2015

      I did not expect this. Thank you SJG. This is really is very good of you.

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      Thomas Pinette on January 15, 2015

      Disregard, found answer in comments below.

    14. Ed Holzman on January 15, 2015

      Jason, I see SJG picking up the fumble and delivering on a commitment that they never made. How is that not "over and above"?

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      Thomas Pinette on January 15, 2015

      I have a question! I pre-ordered my Nightfall sheet and I have since changed address. I emailed Fire Mountain Games to notify them and, of course, I never received any response so I have no idea if my shipping information was ever updated. Is there any way I can confirm the mailing address for my counter sheet so I know it gets to the right address?

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      Jason Miller on January 14, 2015

      Ed, I think you want to overestimate.

    17. Ed Holzman on January 14, 2015

      You cannot underestimate how much good will this decision has generated for SJG. I will have to stop casting aspersions on Munchkin now �

    18. LunixVandal on January 14, 2015

      Who should I contact (and how) if my shipping address has changed?

    19. Asher Green on January 14, 2015

      I'd more or less written it off as a loss. Good job, Jen!

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      on January 14, 2015

      Excellent news :-)


    21. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on January 14, 2015


      We'll post more about the sheets after we fill all the outstanding orders.


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      Jason Miller on January 14, 2015

      Any leftovers of the sheets?

    23. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on January 14, 2015

      Mark D-

      Once we get all the counters folks have paid for out, we'll go from there. Thanks for your patience!


    24. Mark D on January 14, 2015

      I got on their mailing list to be kept up to date on when they would be available. How do we get the counters now?

    25. Peacemongrel on January 14, 2015

      Very cool that his is going to happen.
      I got the sheets as part of the bundle at the Launch Party.
      I have been patient and with getting Enemy at the gates over the Holidays was wondering even more about Nightfall. Go team and thanks to everyone who is making this possible

    26. Jay Bryant on January 14, 2015

      I'm glad SJG stepped took it over. Now it'll get done.

      As for PDF versus print, I prefer PDF. I'm trying to have less stuff to store and clean.

    27. lonejedi
      on January 14, 2015

      D'oh! *Now* TheIonIcon's question and response load on the page for me ;) e-mail to coming up!

    28. lonejedi
      on January 14, 2015

      As one of (undoubtedly) many that have moved since the original KS and subsequent sponsored sheet orders, is there a quick-and-easy method for getting an address change applied? I *should* have a USPS mail forward in place for a while longer, but it'd be handy to get it shipped to my new address directly ;)

    29. Graham Brand on January 14, 2015

      Excellent news, and I'm happy enough with the pdf solution. Many thanks for taking control.

    30. Gene Warren on January 14, 2015

      Great, thanks for doing this! My son and I are eager to get this and start playing.

    31. Tim Braun on January 14, 2015

      This is why SJG is an awesome organization!

    32. Scott Chisholm
      on January 14, 2015

      Thank you, SJG, for having our backs!

    33. Steve Jackson Games 11-time creator on January 14, 2015

      Thelonicon and AstralWanderer- I know James has some plans to work out the kinks, but an email to might help smooth out the bumps.


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      David Valenze on January 14, 2015

      Great to hear! Thank you for taking care of your customers in this manner.

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      AstralWanderer on January 14, 2015

      Good news indeed - I would second Thelonicon's request in respect of checking whether a purchaser is even on FireMountain's list (with Garry McBride's agreeement, I had "paid" for 2 Nightfall sets by overpledging to his Throne of Night KS, so no Paypal record or receipt).

    36. Matt Sailors on January 14, 2015

      Out of curiosity, is Fire Mountain Games ever going to publicly address exactly what happened?

    37. Thelonicon on January 14, 2015

      I'm a bit disappointed that it will only be a PDF, but I commend SJG for stepping up to the plate to get the counters finally shipped out. I wouldn't be surprised if they are taking a hit to the wallet to clean up Fire Mountain Games' crap.

      Question though: Is there a person at SJG we should contact to provide/verify a new shipping address? Given FMG's terrible organizational skills, I find it incredibly unlikely that my address change was correctly noted.

    38. Matt Sailors on January 14, 2015

      Excellent news. This is the type of "over and above" service that makes SJG a great community partner.

    39. Aaron Wolfrom on January 14, 2015

      That is great news, thank you so much for making this happen!