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This is unbelievable. People dig up a bunch of the bullshit that you've been putting others through, and all you have to say to the people who gave you nearly $40,000 in good faith is "10/10, would squat again." People who clearly work much harder than you do to get their money wanted to see this idea come to fruition. They trusted you to do what you promised. I'm offended you don't even have the humility or decency to tell us what is going on.
You've conned others into giving you time they've spent in their life doing work for others. I'm disgusted that even a portion of my time on this Earth has gone towards you and the things that you do. I demand my pledge back, credited on the same account that I paid with. And if you're not going to do that, give it to Cory Tschogl for all the trouble you've caused her. At least then I would know that it's going to an honest, hard-working member of the populace who deserves it. You can bet I'm going to tell every one of my friends about what you've done, and if I ever see you trying to start up something new, you can bet I'll be trying to shut it down. I encourage anyone who gave money to this project to do the same.
Yes. I think every backer should ask a refund, and try to spread the word. ConEX has always been a video and a couple of gifs, nothing more. They're just delinquents and they tried kickstarter as another way of fraud, the same as they are doing in Palm Springs. And after that they'll try another thing, without any kind of apologise or dissimulation.
Along with the rest of your disgruntled (and rightfully so) backers, I am officially requesting my pledge to be refunded. Not only because you are being intentionally vague and disingenuous, although you clearly are, but because you have done nothing to show that you ever planned to actually work on the project from the outset. Therefore, you are in violation of the Kickstarter requirements of a creator. Thanks for your understanding (which seems the only option now that the story has reached mainstream media), and please contact me at your earliest convenience with how we shall proceed. A simple refund to the credit card used will suffice.
10 Grands from one backer: Come on, this is getting silly:
Hopefully Kickstarter will ends this desaster. I smell a lot of Areal around here.
"Ok guys, what's the latest deets on the drama? 10/10, would squat again"
Really this is all you have to say?
P.S. His name backwards is my scam
Courtesy of Agent Ahmad Khan, who found and posted this little tidbit about their "new proprietary "per-texel pixel art post-processing technology" which looks like it has has nothing to do with them, and was lifted from another Kickstarter project.
This project was running a KS at the same time as confedrate express, i wonder how much innovation was 'borrowed' form this program when they decided to make the Flase-2D for this knuckle club."
Doesn't the demonstration for Con's lighting engine look very similar to the animations on Sprite Lamp?
I doubt if the brothers can code anything. They *might* be able to make pretty pixel art, although I think it's probable they farmed that out as well, because, why work when you can steal from people?
Has anybody informed Sprite Lamp that it looks like Kilobyte are insinuating that Sprite Lamp's work is theirs. Look at Update 1, where they never mention "Oh, this isn't our proprietary technology, we cribbed it off another Kickstarter."
Update 10: "I have been contacted by a small investor group that was very excited about my new pixel art engine tech". *My* new pixel art engine tech?!
Mr Maksym, after your contemptuous comment, the backers have now been left in no doubt that you are a bottom feeding lamprey, and as such had never had any intention of ever working on a game or a honest job.
You, sir, are the scummy residue left in a dishwasher and should be disposed of as such.
People have now been noticing that like Areal, you also don't seem to have an ounce of creativity anywhere in your tainted body.
You are a thief, an opportunistic mugger and a coward.
You are no con or scam "artist". You are simply slime that should be wiped off the bottom of our shoes and then forgotten.
You bring nothing worthwhile into the world, and all you do is engender misery. You are, to put it simply, a waste of oxygen.
Your "jokey" comment shows you have no respect for the people you cheated and are continuing to cheat. I have no doubt you would steal from a baby because you would consider anyone that is not you fair game.
I hope you get your comeuppance and that the internet manages to destroy what little reputation you had left. Please note that you have been featured in several high profile websites across the world along with your picture and the name of Pashanim has now been blackened by your actions and that of your brother.
The game does have "Con" in the title.
@Saúl Best way at this juncture is to dispute the charge with your bank. Normally you'd ask the guy running the show but ehh something tells me it'll be a waste of your time. Amazon won't let you do it through them after 90 days. So dispute the charge with your card issuer, tell them you paid for a product and didn't receive it - they'll help you sort it out.
If all of this story is true, what we have to do to get our money refunded?
He may squat again but he won't scam again. This guy is tainted for life. Hope Kickstarter shuts down his other con and kicks the scumbag parasite out.
After Maksym's comment I am left with no doubt that this project has always been a scam. Again, I demand a refund of my money.
@Pedro Never in your life? Protip: never cover a roommate's share of rent. In fact don't have roommates if you can afford it. :|
@Maksym: REALLY? After all this...REALLY?
Holy shit, I simply cannot BELIEVE this entire story is a thing that happened. Never in my life have I felt so betrayed and ashamed of having given money to someone. I hope you receive legal retribution over everything you have done and I want my fucking money back. Go fuck yourself.
Would squat again, a+++++ great seller
There are so many weird things going on with this project and it's developers. Too much information isn't being transmitted and a lot of the management and ownership details have been very vague.
Knuckle Club is clearly not making it's kickstarter goal, so what will happen to CE? Was all the delay while you guys worked on Knuckle Club for nothing?
So, I'm upset that I'm learning that my investment in this project is worth little/nothing from Gamestop, rather than from the development website. I would like my dinars back, please. I would also recommend you pay your rent and not be a scumbag. These are all good business practices.
Ok guys, what's the latest deets on the drama? 10/10, would squat again
From Kickstarters Terms of Service:
"A Project Creator is not required to grant a Backer’s request for a refund unless the Project Creator is unable or unwilling to fulfill the reward.
Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill.
Project Creators may cancel or refund a Backer’s pledge at any time and for any reason, and if they do so, are not required to fulfill the reward."
Do I read this correctly that the project creator needs to refund is as he is unwilling to fulfill the rewards?
By the way, Polygon also ran an article on them:
Man, your bank dun care. Just say they failed to meet the promised delivery date, with the project URL as proof should the bank ask.
Good idea. I'm fairly certain on my banking website I can flag and dispute a charge. If they need proof send this project URL, the latest update and the story on these guys scamming other people.
So I actually went through this on a different kickstarter. You have a limited time to dispute a payment (90 days maybe?) and after that it stands, buuut you can still dispute it through your bank and Amazon won't hold it against you. In my case the $10 isn't worth the effort to pursue - which is what scammers count on - but yeah, absolutely request a reversal for a product not delivered.
(Which isn't to say you shouldn't COMPLAIN to Amazon. Just don't ask them to handle the chargeback.)
Just sent this as a PM using the "Contact Me" button.
After your recent update, I was prepared to leave my pledge as it was and continue believing in you and the eventual release of the game.
Unfortunately, due to your continuing actions concerning the AirBnB incident, I am no longer prepared to do so.
I formally wish to request a refund of the $75 pledge as I cannot in good conscience believe that you will release or have ever prepared to release Confederate Express.
I await your reply,
How does one go about filing a complaint to Amazon Payments? If someone who knows, posts it for all of us to see, then the more reports the better.
I'm hoping to get Amazon Payments to suspend their accounts. The more reports the better, folks!
Oh you won't get your money back, I guarantee that, but spend a couple minutes spreading the word about these two crooks so they never can pull this crap ever again.
This was a scam and we all got took. I'm pissed. I want my money back.
It's under a different user name, and there isn't really a "this is a high-risk, low-confidence pitch due to the creator's behavior and business partners" report option. Without receiving a flood of bad press I can't see Kickstarter doing anything about it.
Not that they need to, even if there were no other shenanigans afoot Knuckle Club looks like absolute shite. Slow and methodical works for tactical games. Not so much for brawlers.
No fucking way this game will ever be released and neither will knuckle club. It's amazing kickstarter hasn't suspended knuckle clubs kickstarter campaign
More info and new photos on the Pashanin brothers (Kilobyte Developers) squatting case... In case you're wondering why theres no updates. Looks like they're plenty busy doing other things. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2702908/Squatters-refusing-leave-apartment-got-Airbnb-horror-story-complain-THEY-ones-harassed.html
@Veav I have no idea. I live in Sweden heh.
@Andreas If you live in Palm Springs, it costs more than $10 to replace a window?
I have squatters rights to this game.
Hmmm... Interesting. To bad it has come to this. I dont know what to think.
Watch and read this, so basically the developers are scammers, and now scamming someone out or rent. Likely funds from the game were used as rent and now likely used as lawyers fees with them squatting in someone's apartment. Bunch of SHADY CROOKS!!! http://m.kesq.com/news/squatter-in-palm-springs-also-accused-of-duping-online-gamers/27096438
Kilobite is registered to Maksym's brother. So it turns out this "company" that "came in and hired all his employees" is registered to his brother.The whole thing is BS.
This is a con.
ahaha, damn. Well hopefully somebody makes the game in time, I liked the idea/look.
Their registered business address in Austin, Tx is a gated community, with rents starting at $1000/month. Not a huge stretch, but not bad a for couple of guys running a KS scam.
I wonder if the community residents or management have ever heard of the Pashanin brothers.
Well, this is certainly pointing towards this being fraudulent. Damn. http://m.kesq.com/news/squatter-in-palm-springs-also-accused-of-duping-online-gamers/27096438
Go look at Forsaken Fortress people! At least there's a good chance we'll get a complete game. It could be far worse, stop your whining. Give ppl a tiny bit of power they start acting like Activision.
I just hope the one situation does not affect your ability to complete Con Ex. Personally, it is none of my business what you do in your personal life. It shouldn't affect anyone else either.
Hi, Maksym, I stumbled on these articles while I was reading online when Knuckle Club campaign launched. Do you have anything to say about this situation:
@ ack, not sure which was deleted, last comment was praising your investigating and sarcastically hinting that the different names were typos or he forgot how to spell his name, not to hide anything shady...
@Jack HUH. Some good arguments/intel there.
A previous comment of yours was deleted. Care to rephrase it for me?
This interview was linked to by a backer in Update 10.
A few choice quotes from Maksym:
" there were almost no negative feedback regarding the actual game, Knuckle Club; just mostly about Kilobite’s inner-company politics"
"I have no control over Kilobite’s business decisions"
"Knuckle Club is being developed by Kilobite contract employees. Confederate Express is being developed by myself (Maksym Pashanin) personally. The only link between two projects is that I am employed by Kilobite"
"Knuckle Club is completely funded by Kilobite, we are using Kickstarter strictly for market research and publicity purposes."
So it seems Maksym Pashanin, founder, President, Treasurer & Director of Kilobite, has nothing to do with its internal politics or business decisions. Seems legit.
Maybe he leaves all that to his VP, Denys Pashanin.
Now I'm not regretting backing at a higher level.
Good investigation work! I'm sure it's just a typo and he forgot how to spell his name. Not trying to hide with aliases or anything. ;)
Also check out both their Facebook profiles.
Denys is spelt Denis btw.