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Nevermind. I found the answer in the complete rules section.
I've been reading the PDF, and it keeps referring to crown cards. Are these any face cards, or just kings, or are queens included? Thanks.
Again, not really worth an update, but I'm getting impatient and wanted to say something at least. The proofs for the cards arrived, and they're glorious. They had some errors that have already been fixed. Still waiting for the proof of the book to arrive. I ordered 2, one premium color and one regular, so if the first one got lost in the mail or worse, we can at least expect the second one. Updates to come when the book comes in!
Its a simple error. In most programs you can align the bleed to be larger on the left or right, as well as ordering it to only happen on only even or odd pages. Instead of ordering it for only odd or only even, i ordered it all.
Out of curiousity, how exactly do you format the spines to be all left-sided? I'm asking for myself; I'm a self-published author, and in case I get a real gig, I want to be sure to avoid it.
This really isn't worth an "Update," more for those who are curious. The printer took a look at the book, but it looks like I formatted the spines to be all left-sided pages. Luckily they caught it instead of sending a clearly broken proof. I'll make sure to update everyone when the proofs are being delivered!
No need to apologize, were super new at it, too! Long story short is that the Cards are approved for printing but the Book is still pending a review to make sure we set it up right. There was a lot of stuff that needed to be done to get it ready, I had to learn how to make "Actions" in Photoshop so i could process the 600+ cards without going through them individually, and I spent a long time lamenting the quality loss in the art that is inherent in CMYK printing.
At the moment, its a waiting game, and once its approved i'll order the proof and give you guys an update!
Hello again. Sorry for the perceived impatience, but have you heard back from the printer yet? I'm not too familiar with the process, sadly, and I'm hoping for good news.
No the order does not matter, and at the moment there is only one spell per mana combination.
Something I should've asked during editing: Does the order of the mana affect the spell? For example, Elusive Aura is Tradition-Luck-Luck-Fortitude. If the order is instead Tradition-Luck-Fortitude-Luck, does it become something different?
Hey Brandon, i'm happy you're enjoying the game! Could you do me a favor and send me a Screenshot of the issues your having at IslandofBees@gmail.com because i cant see the issues on pg 15 on my computer. Any other issues you notice can be directed there as well!
I'm enjoying reading the PDF, but I can't help but notice that editing doesn't seem to be quite perfect. I'm noticing the odd error, and on page 15 there are some problems with the Ls in the last section. It looks very well put together otherwise, and while I wasn't aware of the gameplay beforehand, it was a very pleasant surprise that I'm sure my friends will find interesting when I'm able to get a group together!
Hey Michael, ETA on the decks is the same as the Book, they still need to be proofed by the printers. Should be a couple of weeks.
when is the ETA for the decks if we added it to our pledge?
Now to find a good printer! Thanks for all the hard work :)
Hey thanks for asking for the update Adam! I’ve been wanting to post one for a week but... idk i can’t describe what keeps holding me back, but your comment broke its grasp, so thanks again!
Thanks! I am sorry to hear about what you are going through, please take care of yourself.
Definitely Adam! I was planning on doing an update later today.
How's it going? Can we get a quick update?
Hey, just wanted to say that I'm really happy I backed the project. I've actually been running a long-time Pathfinder campaign set in a weird west world, and to come across this is really special. I've done playtesting with two friends of mine, and we all love the system. It's interesting, intricate, and enjoyable! The mixture of random chance and skill has a nice feel to it, and the system itself has a pretty easy learning curve. I can't wait until the official book/decks come out! Congrats on funding.
Hey Gene. Standard decks are fine, the specialty decks just help.
We're planning on doing some giveaways later, so if you got a Westbounder tier or higher you might be able to snag a free deck with your book. Stay tuned!
Do you need the specialty decks to play the game or can you use a standard deck?
Hey Ian! PDFs will arrive much sooner, yes!
Just saw that this got fully funded. I know the books won't ship till around December but will you be mailing the PDFs to backers that qualified like myself before then?
I tried I think I only added 5 Can I may not be able to fix until its closed Sorry let me know what I have to do Thanks !
Early Birds don't come with any decks inherently, however we do offer a free deck to anyone who played the game and posted it online!
Otherwise, you can always add a deck as an add-on!
Hey Ron, You can totally do what you're doing, but you should increase your pledge by $5 to cover the shipping, too! Thanks!
As an early bird Westbounder, do I get any of the basic decks with that?
I just pledged Ca $215 that should cover all 6 premium decks. I just could not see the extra $40 US For Dust not a big fan of art books ( trying to save some money lol ) Please let me know if there is any other benefit ! ?
Thanks, you guys rock
Honestly, were so close I wouldn't worry about it. Either well make it by the time, or well just eat the printing costs and make them anyway!
I'm one of the "push to goal" backers. If some of the premium decks aren't unlocked, can we still get them by adding $10 to our pledge?
You are correct Stephen! The disciple of dust tier comes with the rule book, 12 decks, and also the Art book which features all of our art unedited!
Hey folks, just joined as a backer for this project. It looks awesome, really loving the style and the art. Just wanted to check that my understanding is correct; the Disciple of Dust backer level comes with one physical copy of every deck unlocked by the campaign?
Looking forward to running this for my players, I think they'll love it.
Hey Max, thanks for the question!
Davids pretty close! (Thanks David!) Each deck has a custom back and front, and the fronts will give you infromation on what you can do, although this will be in symbol form. When you pick up a Diamond when you have the Withstand ability, you'll notice a large shield like emblem on each front, which makes it especially awesome when you block a Three of a kind with three huge diamond shields!
And just add $12.50 CAD (Or $10 USD) to your pledge and after the kickstarter we'll send you a survey and ask what you want from it!
My understanding of the cards is that they are a standard deck of cards but with a themed card back, and reminder text for special things that happen with certain archetypes when certain card types are drawn. Like if you played a class that could hit automatically whenever you draw a queen of diamonds, then the special deck for that "class" would have reminder text on the queen of diamonds that says "automatic hit". But the rule book would have the rules for playing that class with a regular standard deck.
I'm not answering @Max, I'm just saying what my understanding is, and hoping that's correct.
Still a bit confused about the add-on decks, referencing my previous question and Lord Zombitten's question (September 18). It sounds like if you pay extra for a deck as an add-on, that's a physical item? A printed deck of cards with art customized to whichever 'class'? But you don't need to buy the add-on to receive instructions on how to play that 'class'?
Related, what is the process of adding an add-on to your pledge on kickstarter?
Thanks for the question Andrew!
Definitely, they just won't come out immediately. We wan't to know the kind of content you guys want to see, whether its adventure paths or more character creation options. So we'll be sending out these kinds of questions in the survey after the kickstarter.
In the event that we don't get to their unlock goals, will we ever see the Books of Secrets?
Each deck is a standard deck, but emphasize the play styles of each sort! The Gambler has an Aces Wild ability which allows them to make huge attacks using aces, while the Witch gains a ton of power while she has a queen in their hand! Every sort also has suit based powers, so every sort will have their suit powers emphasized in the card fronts.
Thanks for the question!
Do the different stretch goal decks effect gameplay at all? Or are they just aesthetic?
Early-Bird gets the worm, and in the west there are only the quick and the dead!
Enjoy the discount, you've earned it!
Sorry for the dip in the total. I just snagged an early bird that became available. I wouldn't have done it if it would have cost us some decks...but it seemed safe. ;-)
Wow thanks for the super quick response, sounds like you definitely already are working on if then. I totally get the constraints of a small team. I will PM from here on out. Thanks again. :D
Hey Ayelron, thanks for the question!
Yes, i agree it is vague in some areas, and we've been working non-stop over the past few weeks renovating the book, making sure its good to for printing!
That being said, we're not a huge company, and having lots of eye pouring through the book the past few weeks have been super helpful! We've made a ton of edits and fixed issues because of a bunch of fans that have been going through the basic. (shout out to Xavier)
So, if you have these kinds of concerns, PLEASE be vocal about them! There's nothing we want more than getting you guys the best possible book! We especially appreciate private messages with anything you see wrong or think is confusing.
Thanks for all of the work you guys have put into this so far. I really like the world and feel from what I have read and watched.
I have been pouring through the free text copy of the rules and it seems like there are alot of vague descriptions of things; especially items. Will the book be more specific in its final form?
As an example you describe guns as flintlock in some areas and seemingly as able to hold multiple rounds in others. And I can't quite figure out what a dust-blade is supposed to be, or how it works: other than it expends 3 rounds when it activates.
Heya Lord, thanks for the questions.
Any 52 card deck will do. You don't need anything special, but the decks will make every draw feel thematic to your character's sort.
Will the basic rulebook include instructions for how each class and the GM could play using a standard poker deck, or will the decks be necessary to play this game?
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Good question Andrew. They are in USD. A better way to put it is in percentage of funding. At 110% we'll unlock the first deck, and all the decks at 200%.
Unfortunately, decks are expensive unless you order them in bulk. At the moment, each deck would cost upwards of $12 USD just to print. At 20k funding we can order enough that they won't break the bank.