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Hey we're almost coming up on an anniversary! According to Wikipedia it's the Appliance anniversary. What should we get? Oh how about a game that we all payed for. Or how about one of the few games that were created in the time frame that our game was supposed to be completed. Maybe this game will be the next No Man's Sky. At least they released their game after delays.
It's good your easily pleased as watching appears to be the only thing we're going to get here :)
I have to say - I almost think I am getting my money's worth here. It is becoming genuinely interesting to watch a Kickstarter project go on so long!
Last update - December 2015. The Kickstarter was funded in I think March 2012. So, over four years since funding, seven months with no update. Really? Maybe the shirt should have said, "I helped fund a game I wanted to play and all I got was this lousy t-shirt "?
After the comments here recently, I tried to reach out to the Cipher Prime and the creators on Twitter to see if we can an update. All 3 accounts.
What was I thinking, of course there's no response.
Hey Cipher Prime, I want my money back. You're hitting a year with no updates and I'm genuinely tired of the lack of communication. I have no faith in you or your vision.
What's the difference between a scam and vaporware? Scammers at least pretend to be your friend. This is one of 3 kickstarters that haven't fulfilled their rewards. Got the t-shirt, it's certainly unique.
With the GameForge now closed, it would be nice to hear if: a) this game is dead or b) if this game is in active development. Thanks!
Is this still worked on?
So now you have created 3 games and a minigame since this kickstarter. Auditorium Duet will be game changing right? It's the antigame. You don't play it but you think about it,
Just be honest. You lied to everyone and conned us out of our hard earned money.
@Brys: Haha, similar here. At least I got a cool t-shirt out of this kickstarter.
Every time CipherPrime spams me with their newsletter to flog whatever their newest shiny thing is, I like to revisit the Kickstarter and remind myself why I'll never play another one of their games again.
@Mike @Skamandros: And me. how stupid... of us �
Have you guys figured out how best to deliver us the builds you've been working on? It's been six months.
@Mike: The same thing just happened to me too
Why do I keep coming back here with this irrational hope that maybe I just missed an update?
I don't mind waiting but what upsets me is that Cipher just don't answer to any email, tweet, message...nothing %-/ Not to mention the dev access...
Well, I'm still hopeful that one day it'll be out :) Which would you bet comes out sooner, Wins of Winter by George R. R. Martin or Auditorium Duet? :D
As much as I've tried to be patient with this project, I'm calling my credit card company to try to dispute the transaction for a refund. It has been over 3 years already with zero updates since the end of 2015. Enough is enough.
I want my money back
What's going on?
This is proof that Kickstarter can sometimes be just an alternative form of welfare.
I want my money back.
Any further updates to this? Not heard anything since December!
I think I did get a t-shirt but I'd be hard pressed to find it. Does anybody really believe that cipher prime is still doing anything on this project?
Just write this game off, people. Cipher bit off more than they can chew - they just don't want to admit it to us.
Some may disagree with this but I must speak my mind. I understand why many are disappointed or annoyed/angry about the lack of updates and progress. I myself am happy with any progress or news. As callous as it sounds, things happen. I myself have been a victim of fate (or whatever you choose to believe in) loosing my career and falling into illness. Ever since the start of cipher prime i have followed you guys supporting you whenever i could afford to or had time to. That will not stop. I hope I speak for many others in this. Granted similar things have happened with other game projects for crowdfunding but i BELIEVE in you all: Will, Dain and all the team. Do not dwell in the past and let the disappointment and apathy consume the end of this project. Stride forward and make this game everything and more of what you wanted and dreamed. I am still here and always will be.
Almost 4 years later, we are still waiting. Shifting management priorities, complete software re-architectures, and now art shows. Where is the game? We've been patient for a long time, but personally, my patience is running thin. Real artists ship.
I'd like to point out, especially to those that thought some were being unduly harsh on poor Cipher Prime in the comments of the November "update," that they've missed yet another promised update for this month.
Any guesses on when the next one will be? I'm going with April 2016.
The update from Nov 2015 is indeed very unclear: should we still expect a game or just forget about it? and with that question, I'd like to repeat the same thing I said on the previous update: if you DO plan to deliver something (anything!), wouldn't it be nice to just give us a date? This shows true commitment to your backers and makes it a lot more concrete. I actually would appreciate that so much more than bold but vague promises.
And everybody would have something to look forward to: both you and us :-D
I fully agree with Vianney, it would be awesome to get some insight into the stuff that's actually going on. There's always the comment section too, I don't understand why the months-long radio silence. Also, you seem really burnt out, so I've got a question. What makes you tick?
That last update read like the company has split up and this project is vapourware. You guys need to be specific.
It would indeed be nice to have some concrete project facts - apologies are good for some people (i don't need them, personally) but i like facts better. And it seemed to be going way better earlier this year after a rewrite. Rewrites happen, and are sometimes hellishly needed and hellish to pull off, but if that was past back in June, what went wrong afterwards? What's missing from the game? What did the rewrite not foresee, after 3 years of planning?
Would be nice to know. You don't really owe me a finished game, but you owe me to try making one (which you delivered manyfold) and to take us on the journey with you (which has been sometimes lackluster, and falls short even today while acknowledging it)
As others have noted, the latest update, despite sounding sincere and honest, is disheartening. Without a clear plan, concrete details, nor a release window in sight, I think at most, at some point, we'll get a dev-build-sort-of release and that's that (and then Will and Dain can be like "Hey! We're forever done with this! Thank god!") I would be pleasantly surprised if we were to get an actual, fully finished copy as it was originally intended/envisioned. In any case, I wish Cipher Prime the best of luck. On a side note, video updates (with either Dain or Will speaking to the camera to the backers) would've probably help calm down some backers (and seem more transparent and less evasive), but at this late in the game (3 years running), I suppose nothing at this point would make a difference.
Wow. It's been a long time. Original delivery Oct 2012 huh? Unfortunately, this is yet another reason why I no longer back anything on any types of these sites anymore. I appreciate all the hard work and sacrifices you've made to try and see this come to fruition, but the backer model just isn't something I want to gamble on anymore.
Good luck on your future endeavors. Don't lose the drive to create something.
2000 people have given you $70K and after 3 years I'm almost out of hope that we'll ever see anything. Each update is a disappointment. Every email I get about how Cipher Prime has released some other game (Intake, Splice, Pulse, Fractal, Monster Want Burger...) is absolutely infuriating. You put so much effort into applying emotion to the last update, yet I'm well past feeling like I have reason to care anymore. Looking at the other comments, I think I'm part of the majority here.
Yeah, @Betrayer. I had the exact same thought here.
I loved Auditorium and was (and still am, in a way, I guess) SO excited for Duet.
But every update on this just makes me sad. It's bad that they don't update, but when they do it seems it's even sadder.
And then an update like this last one comes... I mean, everyone has to eat, and now we know they've already used up our money (I asked about this February 2014, and they had "not spent a dime of it" yet). And the update was really good in conveying their emotions, and I know it's certainly very frustrating for them as well, but... There was NO REAL PROJECT CONTENT in it. Progress, nothing.
I forgot I backed this. I forget I back this pretty often.
I loved Auditorium. Excited as can be about Duet.
But this? This is disheartening.
I hate how every time I get an update in my email, I'm reminded exactly how disappointing you've all been about this game.
It's just... sad.
What is going on? Time for an update.
It really pisses me off that you clearly don't care about your backers. Keep making your shitty mini games. People will eventually see how full of shit you guys really are. You're all a disgrace to the indie game and Kickstarter community. Your 1,500 likes on Facebook clearly reflects that.
"Many of you have asked for a release date since our last update. As we mentioned previously, we’re doing out best to release Auditorium Duet on or before October 22nd, 2015. This date can always change based on what a platform holder like Steam says to us. We’re going to trust our partners here."
So... this date has now passed. Can we get a revised release date?
These MONTHLY updates have been great.
How about an update? Does this game still exist?
Cipher Prime - What a bunch of grubs.
Any update? We are almost 3 years past the delivery date.
Hey guys. Any news about the game?
Now we know why we haven't heard much about this game for the past few months (if not years).
"If I want to get better, I need to take risks and I need to work under pressure." So I guess we need to start putting pressure on you to finish this game we haven't really seen much in the last 3 years. Please work on this game before a bunch of mini games. I know a bunch of backers are not happy as this game seems more and more like vapourware as the months go on.
I want to be excited for this game. I know I was once I backed it three years ago. But now, I'm not sure any more.
Please enlighten us as to your reasoning to work on anything but this game (or so it seems) by at least giving us an update more frequently than once ever so often.
How about a June update?
I'm still excited for this! Auditorium is one of a few experimental music games I wish we got more of.
One more day for a May update.