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Two years later, I don't feel good about what I posted. I also don't feel wrong about it. Man! I even missed Max's redemption shipment. Does anybody have the Sad Children Book Club archive? Surely someone saved a local copy. Send a link to narpas at gmail and I'll kick in 75 towards another artist of your choosing.
@Alvin L: Just saw that today. Huzzah! New things. <3
LOOK AT THE CLOUDS
Kindle version of the first book still available:
If you're gonna take a "screw capitalism" stance and tear down your decade+ of work, you could at least fucking do it right.
a) Art is subjective. Let's get that out of the way.
b) I paid for a book. Nearly two years ago.
c) That money was apparently spent by John on living expenses.
d) This was, effectively, and perhaps inadvertently, a long con.
Maybe I should make a Kickstarter campaign promising something cool, collecting backer funds, using them to pay my rent and expenses, and– wait, someone already beat me to the punch. Fuck!
"I'm really broke but I back as many projects as I can" – Elettra Cavendish
If you were *really* broke, you wouldn't have money to spend on backing *anything.* Which makes you perhaps more full of shit than John. Broke is not being able to make rent. Broke is spending every day looking for work. Broke is buying shit food for peanuts, including peanuts.
I love you Grant. And that's the only thing that's real!
"I am a stupid baby" --Elettra Cavendish
Dude-- That was a lengthy, thought-provoking email! Art is messy and in the best of circumstances, dreamy and even magical. Waiting for a book is dreamlike too, so it's all cool.
I'm really broke but I back as many projects as I can because I believe in a gentler reality, perhaps not unlike the one you discussed after your relatively recent DMT experience.
Ultimately --and at the risk of sounding like the dirty hippie that I am-- love is the only thing that's real.
So peace. And light. And love. And fuck 'em.
"I will not be responsible for the manufacture of any more unnecessary physical objects." --Jonn Cambell
Once more for good measure.
I think the worst thing about this is that you seem to think I'm the bad guy in all this. Somehow because I gave to you in a time of plenty that means that I'm part of a system which is, what? Unfair to you? Damn me and my privilege!
Now you're burning the book to protest me daring to share in your dream to publish a pictures for sad children book. And if that bothers me, well fuck me for being so privileged that a book I helped pay for being burnt bothers you more than all the terrible things that are wrong with the world.
Fuck that. I've eaten ramen and peanut butter too many times this week to feel shamed by your rant. You're not better than me, you're just a bigger asshole.
God damn if I had your bank account I wouldn't be feeling nearly as worried about rent next month.
Burn a third and *feel* as self-righteous as I feel angry.
I wanted to correct a typo.
Burn a third and as self-righteous as I feel angry.
btw here's my bank account. notice the debt on the card is about 80 dollars more than the account. http://imgur.com/CYaMTGN
Alright, yeah. Since I last looked at this kickstarter I fell into depression of my own, I lost my income, I've spent days where I didn't get out of bed and (surprise surprise) I didn't check my email regularly.
john, I gave you twice and a half again what I would have paid any typical bookseller when I had income and wanted to help. Now I've got some rambly paragraphs and no income and a video. I'm sorry that things didn't work out with this kickstarter, it happens and I understood that possibility when I gave. But now it's like, "Well we had a book for you but I'm angry at some vague system that you're a part of so fuck you?"
Why would you do that? All that video does is make me angry with you. It doesn't make me feel anything about what you're protesting against. It sounds like your protesting against me? Sorry! Ass.
So fuck it, burn another copy.
I got linked this vid and it was the first time I've thought about this in about a year. Was there special instructions that I needed to follow? Is the book that might have gone to me in there? I'm confused and feeling really frustetated. I could chip in a few extra dollars for shipping but it seems like I missed that opportunity and now I missed my chance at a book?
I'm sorry that things didn't work out but I feel like I just got sand kicked in my face. :-/
If the video was "hey I'm sorry that things didn't work out" you know, whatever. But now it looks like things mostly did work out but I should be reevaluating my capitalist beliefs?
I guess I shouldn't give money to artists?
Thanks for making me think John. Having followed your work for quite some time I often find myself asking ethical questions. I hope you find some form of peace or happiness. I was looking forward to reading your book, I'm sorry I wasn't faster to support you when shipping costs escalated.
I consider this to be a very large and elaborate art installation about the evils of the capitalist architecture of the the internet. The video of the book burning was a little much but if you give some weirdo on the internet money and don't in the back of your mind expect something strange to happen sucks to be you. I just wish he had taken those books to a local shop and donated them or something.
Are you okay?
I didn't receive a book either, but this is kickstarter, art is messy, and the internet has a funny way of ratcheting up expectations. I knew the risks when I signed up, and it's just a book.
So. More importantly: Are you okay?
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I made a help ticket explaining the no book situation and asked Kickstarter what to do about it. I will comment here again when I get a response.
Someone who ordered the book must live in Chicago. Find where John is hiding them and liberate them.
I'm a $75 backer who has received only the first book. I tried contacting him here as well as on Twitter and have received no response, although he has been active recently on both Twitter and Tumblr.
It was frustrating months ago. Now it's just ridiculous. Where do we go from here?
I am definitely still holding out hope that john will still complete remaining shipments - this last delay is nothing compared to how long it took him to get even the first books out. It makes me uncomfortable that he is so hard to contact though.
It looks like we're all $50 backers too. I paid for a book and "odds and ends."
I'm also a $50 backer who never received anything.
I even ordered prints, hoping that would help facilitate and expedite shipping my book, but it apparently did not. I waited patiently, but fearing that I was throwing good money after bad, I cancelled/disputed my prints purchase approximately 60 days after I made the order (the latest PayPal will allow for a refund). Either John or PayPal approved the cancellation/refund, but I'm still out the original $50 pledged for the Sad Pictures For Children book.
This experience has been frustrating and I feel like John took advantage of me. Sure, in the grand scheme of things, losing $50 will not change my life, but it really sucks that I tried to pay John $100 (book + 2 prints) -- for products he chose to sell -- and he tried to just keep it without sending anything, and is now just ignoring us.
this is making me uncomfortable. what should we do?
i already got my book and now i feel a sense of survivor's guilt because it's entirely possible there will be people who won't get one :(
I have tried Twitter and no response.
anybody have a twitter account? I've considered going that route to try to communicate with john because he is definitely active on that platform but I am reluctant to make an account in the first place.
yeah, the fact that there are still people who haven't gotten their book as well as the complete radio silence RE: the kickstarter is really not cool. :|
55 bucks down the drain. I am happy that some of the folks on here got their books. Oh well lesson learned.
I sent a message with no reply on January 27th - I still have not received my book in Canada. What's the story?
ditto to Matt below, haven't received anything from the $50 funding
why have i been forsaken why
I followed the instructions as a $50 backer, still haven't received anything. No updates since December, yet he's been active all over Twitter and Tumblr. Getting really hard to be patient about this anymore.
I received the older PFSC collection a while back, but never received the new book or any of the other items promised in the $75 pledge. I sent a message requesting a refund for the difference - seventy five dollars minus the cost of the first book - a couple weeks ago and never heard back. Just sent another message requesting that refund.
Website is still down. Is this a sign that if you didn't already get your book your not going to?
Lane, I also have not received my book. I however have not contact John but at this point bothering him won't get me my book faster. Also he said he would finish shipping in January in the last update and since the weather got really bad it could have delayed shipping for him personally and is continuing to send them out. But who really knows.
still waiting to receive my book. messaged john a couple times and have not heard back. not sure if anybody else is looking at these comments any more. fairly sure that I am still looking at these comments. is anyone else fairly sure they are still looking at these comments, and if so, still waiting on a book?
oh, tumblr is back.
you deleted picturesforsadchildren.com and your tumblr. :(
signed and doodled book arrived in singapore. it's lovely. thanks for coming through with it
I finally got the book! I was so elated to receive it, that I failed to notice it was not signed or doodled in. But now I have noticed.
My copy of book 1 has arrived in Turkey and god damn it exceeded my expectations. Great job man, thanks.
I just received my copy of the book! I can feel the uniqueness that was taken out and bottled somewhere leaving me with only this husk of drawings and words. I know it was unique. But it was made special to blend in with the rest of my books.
Thanks for that. and for making this!
my book just arrived today. reading now. thank you!! :)
Book 1 arrived in AU a bit ago - Book 2 and "an assortment of prints, pages from my sketchbooks, and other odds and ends" not arrived yet. (an FYI, not a whinge)
I'm on the west coast, my book has not arrived either.
East Coast, also in the same boat. This is good to know though, so thanks for bringing it up.
Yeah, east coast here and nothing. So I guess some books haven't arrived no matter which coast you're on.
i'm in minnesota and still waiting as well
Same here, I'm in Ohio. I've been thinking the same, so in glad I'm not the only one.