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A high-precision laser mouse. A full mechanical keyboard. An analog joystick. Together.
A high-precision laser mouse. A full mechanical keyboard. An analog joystick. Together.
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      Elliot Yee 7 days ago

      Eric/SAL, can you give us an update?
      Or at least drop us a line and say hi.

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      Michael J. Buck II on May 31

      I've got cad experience and 3d modeling/design experience but electronics such as boards and keys aren't up my alley

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      Ignatius van Niekerk on May 18

      Just out of interest... why do we not form a group and develop this ourselves? It sounds like we have extraordinary people here with the skills needed from PM, design, electronics and programming. Anyone interested?

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      cb2002 on May 18

      Second for Key Mouse. Since this never materialized, I bite the bullet and bought a Key Mouse. Even though it is very expensive, I have been very happy with it and use it every days. Typing on it right now. The Key Mouse guys are professional and very communicative and responsive unlike this project.c

      I am a pioneer backer for the Kings Assembly and put down $350 for this and I am very frustrated with this project.

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      Thomas Eigel on May 16

      @Michael J. Buck II
      You should definitely have a look at https://www.keymouse.com

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      Michael J. Buck II on May 16

      Why can't a not shitty company come out with the same concept as the kings assembly and just be successful? T.T

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      Michael Pingel on May 14

      @Joe Kass

      There are a few products that already exist for what the Delux Designer is trying to do. Obviously it'd be up to your preference but I think Logitech would have a better product than a random Kickstarter.

      Logitech G13:
      http://a.co/bfYw4DD

      Razer Orbweaver:
      http://a.co/i7LIvVR

      We have a designer in my office that uses the Razer and a drafter that uses the Logitech. They're both nice for mapping a ton of shortcuts and macros to a separate controller. I personally use a Razer Naga and a ton of keys remapped on my keyboard for CAD work.

    8. Joe Kass on May 12

      Hey everyone I was browsing kick starter and stumbled upon a project called delux desiger. The concept is not the same as the kings assembly but still interesting. Anyways good luck and hopefully we'll get some news sometime.

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      Aaron
      Superbacker
      on March 29

      @John Buddha
      I too wish his communication was even crappy. Even if in private to those like you who actually can and have offered to help out. If Eric had just reached out to any one of several of us who have offered over the years and actually gotten us to help some, we'd probably have at least PCB and electronics specs, firmware, and at least 3D models available for 3D printing. Maybe not full injection molded parts, that's a whole other supply chain thing.

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      Michael J. Buck II on March 29

      @John Buddha - I wish Eric shared the same professional standards as you do with your communication. It's pretty sad to see the owner of this company have such a lack of caring for his backers. It's is now clear that with or without his backers this man would never be able to complete a product of this scale. I do not wish to question his skills, but it has been proven that he cannot handle this project let alone simply keeping his backers up to date on what is going on with the project at all.

    11. John Buddha on March 29

      Just to be transparent with all the other backers, this is what I sent to Sal, as I have no confidence he will ever apply, as I stated, I have a background In QA'ing Electronics & Software, and am willing to work for FREE to get this product rolled out to him, I also gave advice on his "hardships" that he mentions in his spuratic updates, like a child friendly version. This should never have been apart of the initial launch, because how many BACKERS were kids? I think non, and if any it was their parents. on a second version go kill ur budget if you want but we did not Back a CHILD FRIENDLY version, there is no mention of that, and you should not short your "backers" for new features that u cant acomplish\
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      Message to Sal
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      https://www.linkedin.com/in/ Link to my page hidden from public view

      I have professional done QA for electronics and software, and I think a youtube video from a backer on a review of a beta would calm 98% of your backers, and give faith to potential new customers.

      I want to help you cause I know it will be at least 10 years before another company decides to do this if anyone ever does copy this if this fails and you never release a product. and I wanted this 2 years ago, I dont want to wait for someone else to produce a inferior quality product.

      Also if your having issue makign a child friednly version I highly suggest you make two version release the adult version and release a child version thats more compact and may be inferior on some parts but performs practicly the same, no need to make a uniformed version fro all ages your gona kill you design budget.

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      Michael J. Buck II on March 28

      I would live a refund if this guy isn't going to man up and communicate with his backers. This is some serious bulls*hit on his part at this point. What a disappointment of a company sadly. I had massive hopes for this year's ago

    13. John Buddha on March 28

      https://formlabs.com/request-sample-part/…

      the model 2 is being used for dental and hearign aids as wll and jewlry industry and engineering they have tons of various materials including a meltaway for dental rubber and one close to the streanght of steel.

    14. John Buddha on March 28

      I also want to add that if SAL baught a FORMLAB2 printer with his own money he would be able to print quality products that look almost as if it was made in a mold, only with a magnifine fglass can you even tell that its 3d printed. unless you buy and electric washer at harbor freeight for 20 bucks let it sit in there for a day and get a wet tumbler it would be smother than a babies but. and quality to send out the first batches and release a small set on site for sales so he can generate more money to fulfill all of the backers that gave their hard earned money to this guy

    15. John Buddha on March 28

      A long long long time ago I baught the www.formlab.com printer its print quality tops almost all others on the market due to is print resolution and its compounds using Liquid SLA printing.
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      I got a reply
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      Hey John : ) Thanks so much for the 3D printing help offer! What capabilities does your printer have? Feel free to send me email directly at eric@solidartlabs.com

      Best!
      Eric
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      I reached back out to him dozens of times to his email from multiple email adresses and never once got a reply, I just messaged him back today to see A if the offer was still up B if the product is still in production

      If he is able to shipp just the electonics and a backer is able to print and test, A i think this would give the rest of us supporters confort and review on the product.

      unfortionatly the TRIALS they say have no supporting evidence they ever were performed.

      this was in trial mode 2 years ago....

      so either come up with a eta, or allow a select few backers get the electonics so we can print and beta test these.

      I dont care if the ones i use for testign end up as the ones in my final product i want to help get this going so i can get my product Or a ETA AND PROOF OF BETA TESTING or i want to invoke my rights and a full refund I AM GIVING YOU LEGIT OPTIONS TO FIX YOUR SCAMM

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      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I also demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Michael J. Buck II on March 17

      So anybody got any good conversation pieces to keep the board alive at the moment?

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      Michael J. Buck II on March 10

      @Jason Emery there was a while back a kickstarter called the keymouse you may want to take a look at it. It was pretty successful and is a very well put together product. The ironic thing is is that is ran off an even smaller budget thank what SAL has to work with if you would like to take a look I suggest going to www.keymouse.com/purchase I have thought of purchasing one myself because I have become quite restless and rather agitated with the shadeyness of Eric and those who work for SAL due to their lack of commitment to us the backers. I have personally used the keymouse and found it to be ergonomically sound to use for extended periods of time as well as having a solid software to back up the hardware. It's also a rather rugged and can be used for either professional capacities or much lime what I use it for. For gaming purposes :)

    18. Jason Emery on March 10

      Happy to see people are still active here, though I have no hopes of ever seeing one of these things :)

      @Michael J. Buck II - what other products have you seen like the King's Assembly? I'm still using my Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 from 2006, and really want a new keyboard ^_^

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      Michael J. Buck II on March 9

      @Rowan Graham no offense at all but if they need a second funding to get their sh*t together they should have 1)been transparent from the start about it and 2)should look else where for funding. 200+ dollars for a product like this is more than enough in my books. If I really wanted something like this that bad there are other products out there right this moment tha t do the exact same thing as they are promising. Perhaps not to the same scale. But from their progress it's better than nothing. It's just personal opinion of course but if Eric and the people of SAL came back offer going once again months without honest, transparent communication I'd tell them to go f*** themselves at this point.

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      Poz on March 9

      Colby, thats what I asked but I expect he is under a NDA.

    21. Rowan Graham on March 9

      Hey Eric, maybe I'm one of the few but I would open my wallet again for this. Good luck.

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      Colby on February 22

      Anyone know who this 1 beta person is? It would be good to actually have an actual person talking about the product received.

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      Poz on February 20

      2025?! I wish, maybe 2035 given this rate. But apparently there is still progress.
      I am assuming the beta testers are under NDA since no one is saying anything about them.

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      David Parlevliet on February 8

      So we are likely to get these in 2025?

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      Poz on January 18

      SAL, have you barred the first person who has the beta from posted here?
      Would just be good to hear their feedback to build some hype and trust that things are moving in the right direction. However rough around the edges the first beta might be.

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      Josh on January 12

      I think @Colby sums up the reality for most of us still here now. I would also be happy with those results.

      I'd even be happy with just the components that can't be easily sourced elsewhere (i.e. I'll buy my own switches and keycaps) to help reduce costs.

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      Colby on January 2

      @Michael, thanks but in my opinion i'd be happy with a completed project in any form. I can handle a Kit if that's what SAL decided is the only possible way of completing the project.
      Heck, i'd even accept the 3d models and just a bag full of parts and preprogrammed ICs or something.
      I have very minimal expectations of this completing with an actual product, any chance of a real thing i'll be down for.
      That said, I've passed upset a long time ago and now likely into bargaining or maybe acceptance.

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      Michael J. Buck II on December 28

      In all honesty I would be highly upset if I was shipped a kit of a mouse, I backed this project with an understanding that it was going to be a complete product, I am a tech enthusit but I had no intention of assembling my own mice, if that had been the case is have never if backed this project

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      Poz on December 27

      SAL, have you barred the first person who has the beta from posted here?
      Would just be good to hear their feedback to build some hype and trust that things are moving in the right direction. However rough around the edges the first beta might be.

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      tetrahedronical on December 27

      I'm backer number 791, how many years will it be until my chosen tier is shipped and I get something usable?

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      Ignatius van Niekerk on December 20, 2017

      Hi Eric, welcome back. I am having extreme difficulty in trusting anything from SAL anymore. You have violated our trust and enthusiasm for this project. I would also prefer to get the prototype rarther than promises of a unlikely production model.

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      Colby on December 19, 2017

      @SAL. Here's hoping.
      The periodic checkup and posts go a long way in keep the faith. Let's hope it's not another year without some comments and feedback.
      I really do hope this project bears fruit and i would love to use your product, but there's a long road back to me getting excited at the possibility again.

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      Raukgorth on December 18, 2017

      Hey guys.

      I enhanced the photo a little bit for viewing.
      https://imgur.com/vZonI6o

    34. Solid Art Labs Creator on December 18, 2017

      @Stephen & Stacy - No intention of going back to backers to pay more. We have been discussing ways of breaking up kits, but no good workable ideas gelling yet. Standard boards won't work in any way I can see.

    35. Solid Art Labs Creator on December 18, 2017

      @Colby - Not a stall tactic.
      @James R - So far 100% 3d printed. The original intent was to only 3D print protos / betas and possibly a leading-edge product line that could be improved quickly, and tool for the plastic of the optimized / refined primary line. But 3D printing tech cost has come down quite a bit and improved a lot in quality / versatility / materials, so not sure where we're going to land on that still. Beta usage feedback will help guide that as well.

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      Colby on December 18, 2017

      @James. I'd have to concur. I've seen no ability from SAL to complete this project, and while this probable lawsuit stall tactic is nice to see i'm not going to holding my breath.

    37. James Reilly on December 18, 2017

      So it's official now that all the money has been spent. If creators decided today that they're ready to go to production with no more changes, they couldn't afford the tooling, which in itself takes many months and revisions to get right, unless these are all 3d printed.

      I still very much believe in the idea/product, but I don't believe Solid Art will ever be able to follow through. Looking at the last two updates, you'd think they were a week apart, because nothing appears to have changed - betas were just about ready to be shipped then, too. I won't be strung along any more.

      At this stage I'm more hoping some company competent in product design and manufacture rips off this idea - it's probably the only chance a product like this will see the light of day.

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      Jeff Greth on December 18, 2017

      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I also demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Andrew Godwin on December 18, 2017

      I don't know if I'd call one beta "production", But I would like proof it exists and is not just a Christmas present for someone he knows. Still it is better than we have had for a long time.

    40. Stephen and Stacy Wylie (Devino) on December 17, 2017

      Soooo, seeing as funds have dried up.... I am guessing that you will be coming to the original backers again to pay to finally receive their product (other than shipping)? I would be happy to get mine as a kit without keycaps if it made things go faster and less likely to get a second charge. I even have a few 3D printers available (FDM and Resin) so even just sending the STL for those would be fine. Wondering how long it would take me to add a palmrest, USB Hub chipset, 2-axis analog joysticks, and mousing lasers to the Ergodox open source boards .....

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      A.C. on December 17, 2017

      It's alive?!?!

      Seriously, once a month: We're not dead yet.

      Any proof that production is ongoing?

    42. Solid Art Labs Creator on December 17, 2017

      @Aaron - Agreed. @Hana - I frequently revisit product decisions we've made along the way, but don't conclude that other roads would have been shorter to delivery. There are some decisions that had substantial impacts, but they revolve around kids/family lol. Go figure!

    43. Hana Hanabi
      Superbacker
      on December 17, 2017

      I will repeat for like the 3rd or 4th time....I would be happy with a prototype the way it was presented in the KS video, as long as it works.

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      Aaron
      Superbacker
      on December 17, 2017

      As per my comment on the update:

      So, first, Yay!

      Second. Eric, seriously, during all this time even once a month "still working on this, have stuff in the fire, haven't forgotten" would have been VERY, VERY appropriate and will make the reaction you get now very different.

    45. Solid Art Labs Creator on December 17, 2017

      Just posted a new update. We've been heads-down for a long time, focusing on the product. Hurdles upon hurdles, yet we persist, and still intend on delivering. First beta just went out! Fantastic feedback so far, and we're using it to refine the units we have in the pipeline.

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      Raaj Shinde on December 17, 2017

      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

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      Colby on December 15, 2017

      Creator logged in a few days ago on Dec 12th. At least he's still alive.
      They didn't update when logged in though, so the scam is still a high likelihood. At minimum someone in the US needs to be calling him weekly and saying what the heck until he posts something.

    48. James Reilly on December 12, 2017

      Hi all. I have sent Eric the scammer one more request for a refund before I pursue legal action. Anyone know any good solicitors/lawyers who lives in the Boston area that I can use to send him documents?

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