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A documentary by Jason Cooper, Jay Armitage and Chris Gartin telling the story of the crowdfunding revolution and the people behind it.
A documentary by Jason Cooper, Jay Armitage and Chris Gartin telling the story of the crowdfunding revolution and the people behind it.
839 backers pledged $86,935 to help bring this project to life.

WTF

Posted by Jason Cooper and Jay Armitage (Creator)

So if you have been paying attention you will have noticed we went over our goal very quickly this morning courtesy of 3 backers - Miles Locast, Rick Bman and Kinsi Barr - all first time backers - all who have now just pulled their $10k pledges.

We suspect this is something to do with the Kobe Beef Scam sabotaging our project in the hope we don't make the film!

It's now even more important - we need to rally the troops reach our goal and get this film funded and made, we can't give into these people - they are ruining it for all of us with real projects and real dreams and we won't let them win by making a mockery of the whole movement!

Help us get to our goal make this movie and tell the real story about crowd funding!

Thanks!

J, J & C

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    1. Adam Clark
      Superbacker
      on

      Did the accounts get deleted? Normally people can't remove pledges in the last 24hrs once you reach your goal. Per the Kickstarter Terms of Service:

      "Backers may increase, decrease, or cancel their pledge at any time during the fundraising campaign, except that they may not cancel or reduce their pledge if the campaign is in its final 24 hours and the cancellation or reduction would drop the campaign below its goal."

    2. Miks Ozolins on

      i also got a message saying they had questions and then nothing at all. what is that about? someone named Beatrice Bowen (deleted)

    3. Ams on

      It`s terrible, a troll will probably pull out in the last 5 minutes, and make us just below the goal again. Where is the respect to other backers who care about this project

    4. Dale Taylor on

      I also had someone contact me about my kickstarter project who said they had questions, but no further details. The account is now deleted: "Mitch Perry (deleted)"

    5. Chris Wessling on

      We know all to well what you're going through. We likely would have doubled our pledges if 35% of our backers didn't pull out in the last week.

    6. Brotherwise Games on

      Raised my pledge as well in acknowledgement of "not letting the trolls win."

    7. Martin Wagner on

      I was messaged by a Karen Haynes (now deleted). Didn't really affect my campaign any. "She" said she was interested in backing me but had some more questions to ask. I replied "What's on your mind?" Never heard back.

    8. Blake on

      For what it's worth the scammers pledged $1 on my IGG, and that $1 is now mine(IGG is paid upfront).

      I'm going to enjoy spending their $1.

    9. Eric Bryan Seuthe II on

      I posted this earlier on the KOBE page, but I don't know if anyone still hangs out there.

      I think for the few comments that I made they might have tried to scam me on Kickstarter, but I am not sure.

      I received messages from people saying that they are "Interested" about my kickstarter. Three people, and now all three of them are (deleted).

      Has anyone else been messaged by:
      Charles Charles
      Kristina Sanders
      Keenan Bowman

      Isn't it bad enough my Kickstarter isn't succeeding, haha, now they have to message me?

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      Lisa on

      Wow, they must be extremely bitter to sink that low. I wish Kickstarter would make them pay what they pledged, but given their track record, I seriously doubt it.
      Upped my pledge from 10 to 80. I'd rather eat ramen for a while than let them win!

    11. Martin Wagner on

      Blake: That's a thought. KS may have caught the fake accounts and pulled them. If I wanted to troll someone's campaign, and it were possible to get around the no-backing-out-on-the-last-day rule, then I'd wait until literally the final minute before canceling.

    12. Blake on

      Well Kickstarter hasn't been exactly consistent lately... They deleted the ATG project page even though their terms state they don't delete projects for transparency sake.

      This is probably a case where kickstarter pulled their pledges, not the scammers.

    13. Martin Wagner on

      Interesting...I also thought no one could back out within the last 24 hours if it would drop you below your goal. I wonder how they pulled that off.

    14. Benny Bottema on

      Upgraded pledge from 5 to 25 just because of this little game they're playing.

    15. Steven Lord
      Superbacker
      on

      Even if the cards are fake or have less than $10k on them, the project would get the funding from the people whose cards _aren't_ fraudulent because it would be over the funding goal. It's a glass-81%-full instead of glass-0%-full situation.

    16. L. C. on

      Yeah, I was watching this morning and they made the pledges around the 19 hour mark. The pledges were then pulled around the 17 hour mark. If that's not violating Kickstarter rules, I don't know what is.

    17. Jörn Huxhorn
      Superbacker
      on

      few, dammit! not view. gnargl.

    18. Jörn Huxhorn
      Superbacker
      on

      They pulled after the 24h mark. Just a view minutes ago.

    19. Blake on

      Unfortunately even if they were to "keep' the pledges, the CC's are almost certainly fakes or prepaid cards. I really would love to see Kickstarter seek criminal charges against "Desjon Allen" for E-Commerce "terrorism"(hey if everything else can be considered terrorism, why not scammers? :-p) but that would be too much to ask for nowadays.

      17k in 17 hours, easily doable!

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      Sleet
      Superbacker
      on

      I could have sworn that there was something in place to keep people from pulling their funds in the last day if it would prevent the project from being funded, and lo and behold the Terms of Use contains: "Backers may increase, decrease, or cancel their pledge at any time during the fundraising campaign, except that they may not cancel or reduce their pledge if the campaign is in its final 24 hours and the cancellation or reduction would drop the campaign below its goal."

      It would have been so great if it was an intended prank, only for them to be stuck supporting the project. I wonder how this happened.

    21. Steven Lord
      Superbacker
      on

      The Kickstarter Terms of Use contains this statement:

      "Backers may increase, decrease, or cancel their pledge at any time during the fundraising campaign, except that they may not cancel or reduce their pledge if the campaign is in its final 24 hours and the cancellation or reduction would drop the campaign below its goal."

      Did they pull their pledges before or after the 24 hour mark? If they pulled their pledges after the 24 hour mark, contact Kickstarter and request that they enforce their TOU by reinstating at least one of the (incorrectly cancelled) pledges. You probably wouldn't get the money (I doubt the credit cards associated with the account have $10k on them, if those account holders have a lick of sense) but that's for those guys and Amazon to handle.

    22. Blake on

      I can confirm that Miles Locast, Rick Bman and Kinsi Barr, are all aliases that the Kobe beef scammer has been using. I've been looking into who these people are more, you'd think Kickstarter and Amazon Payments would have been able to put a stop to their accounts and their amazon payment accounts by now.

    23. Savio Hieu Nguyen on

      Wow, if it's those Kobe Beef guys, they are so bitter! I'm really hoping the project pulls through.