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A miniatures line featuring RPG heroes, villains, monsters, Cthulhu and ponies in chibi anime style.
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Feedback survey on the future of Chibi

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Chris and I at Impact! are trying to keep improving Impact! in any way we can understand.   We know a lot of our backers from this KickStarter are not backing our Asian Chibi KickStarter.   This is definitely not an update to try to get you to pledge for the Asian Chibi KickStarter.

What we wanted to do was to try and understand if there should be another KickStarter for Chibi figurines after the Asian one and to do that we really could use 15 seconds of your time from as many backers from this KickStarter as we can get so we know the answer to that question.

Here is a link to a 2 multiple choice question survey that your answers will really be helpful for us deciding what we do with possible future Chibi products after the Asian Chibi KickStarter.

Thank you in advance for your time to help us with your feedback.

Tom & Chris @ Impact

Survey:  http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/M9Z8KKW

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    1. Creator Craig Hackl on October 21, 2013

      I responded to the survey as well, but my main initial reason for the chibi kickstarter was the original d&d figures from the tv show. I wouldn't be using any of these for gaming, it's all about nostalgia for me. in saying that, the chibi miniatures are nice and easy for teaching my daughter to paint. different themes would appeal to me, i'll echo that I would love a superhero themed one as well, another major factor is the bones kickstarter, and the mars attacks kickstarter, as they have mini's that can be used in multiple games.

    2. Creator David Lee Seymour on October 21, 2013

      Can't spare the funds at the moment as the timing vs. other KSs is bad. Also, there's not too many that interest me in this one. Maybe 4 or 5 at most. I'm also more into the monsters personally.
      However..I would LOVE to see a future/scifi chibi ks!! NOT MARTIANS!!! and a candlelight/cthulu ks would be cool also, but somewhat lower on my list.
      As far as quality goes, I haven't had time to really look over my DnD ks minis yet, let alone paint any, but from what I saw the quality is fine and I know Ed at TFM puts his heart into his job =)

    3. Creator Jon.Moore on October 21, 2013

      Oh, and it wasn't an option but I think a superhero themed Chibi Kickstarter would be great. I've seem some superhero Chibi sketches from Lorraine and thought the style worked wonderfully well.

    4. Creator Jon.Moore on October 21, 2013

      I'm backing the new Kickstarter, though at a lesser level than I did this one. That's due to a combination of finances, having too many minis, and being a little less interested in the subject matter. While I haven't started painting yet I'm very happy with what I have though and definitely interested in more Chibi figures.
      I wonder if a little tutorial on working with trollcast would be a good idea? I know that as a relative novice I don't always know the best steps to go about cleaning up a different material.

    5. Creator maverick:muse on October 21, 2013

      If you'd had a fifth box to check in question 1 that said 'I'd be interested in a future Chibi Kickstarter if the theme was right' then I'd have checked that one.

    6. Creator G_Q on October 21, 2013

      I'd love to back the current one, but money is too tight at the moment. I was already backing a couple other projects when this one launched, so was already committed with my little disposable income this month.

      I do plan to pick up some of them at a later date from conventions or through the online store though.

    7. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 21, 2013

      @Paul Baugh ... yes the Asian KickStarter is a bit more expensive than this one was. There is a really good reason for that. This KickStarter cost us $125,000 to produce when all was said and done ... trust me when I say ... finding $19,000 during August and September to finish off the project was not fun in the least. We did it and didn't talk about it ... but we drained every saving fund for future projects we had to make sure we finished the Dungeon Chibi KS successfully. So yes ... the Asian Chibi KS has a slightly higher price point ... because we wanted to make sure we broke even at the end of the day on production. Said another way ... J W is correct ... we have a better idea now what it costs to make the figures and had to adjust prices to match. If you look at the prices in our online store ... you'll see the prices in the KS are in line with what the online store prices are for the figures ... but still less expensive to give incentive to back the project instead of waiting for them to come out.

      @J W ... I'm not sure words can make the case at this point. I've posted images of the new Chimera mould to show how we are working with Ed to redo moulds in organic instead of silicone rubber to produce better castings. Ed has revised the masters of the Chimera based on what he's learned about preparing 3-D printed sculptures to production mould better. Ed and Impact! added quality checks steps based on what we've learned during this Kickstarter and Impact! has added manpower to pre remove gating and flash from the figures before shipping. This is mostly a repeat of what I posted yesterday ... but I just want to restate all that I can in regards to what we are doing to make it better. Everyone received a Chimera at $100 or more ... the best thing I could suggest is to look at the pictures I posted below to see where we moving to with this product line.

    8. Creator PAUL BAUGH on October 21, 2013

      i must say though i have had no problems with an of my miniatures they have all been very good casts

    9. Creator J W on October 21, 2013

      @Paul

      That's something I also noticed, the prior KS seemed to be better value. I'm not surprised though as they probably have a better idea now of costs and their margins with these figures. Again, I'd pledge for this KS, but the touch up work on the figures on top of the increased cost makes me quite reluctant. I'm not sure I'd want to pay more unless this KS' castings were a lot more consistant.

    10. Creator PAUL BAUGH on October 21, 2013

      For me its the cost . It looks to expensive this time . The last kickstarter seemed like better value for my money

    11. Creator J W on October 21, 2013

      What's giving me second thoughts is the cleaning up that needs to be done to the models. I'm not going to point fingers or make mean comments. I understand that they are easy fixes, but the more you buy, the more work you have to do overall. While the cost is generally decent for these figures, the extra time I would have to spend is of more concern to me. If the casting flaws were lesser, I'd likely order without thought.

    12. Creator Bouncergriim on October 21, 2013

      I don't have a lot of funds to invest in minis and already have more than I can paint in a reasonable time frame. My preferences on the chibis are non-humanoids. I was never fond of the chibi people, but I love the look of chibi monsters. So I am in on some of the asian monster style, I personally would love to see more type 1 monsters/quadraped rather than more humans.

    13. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 21, 2013

      @David Holmes ... correct .. if you have already pledged on the Asian KS ... just leave the 2nd question blank. Thanks!

    14. Creator David Holmes on October 21, 2013

      I left the second question blank as I've already pledged at 'Emperor' level on the Asian KS (and may increase my pledge further). That was right, wasn't it?

    15. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 21, 2013

      @SaredRoach ... the deadline for the pewter sets is Nov 2nd so you did not miss the deadline ... however that does not of course change the fact that if you only like half the set that that doesn't probably help. ;-)

    16. Creator SacredRoach on October 21, 2013

      @Impact, thank you, but no. This was a learning experience for me with the Trollcast material, and I will leave it at that. While each of us has different ideas if what is and is not acceptable castings, I do not want to place the financial burden on your company to fix Trollforge's casting issues.

      I have been building resin kits since the 1980s, and all of these are fixable...I was just taken aback by the sheer variation on quality and improperly seated molds.

      And as to the metal chibi set...great idea but a) missed the deadline and b) only about half of the set would interest me.

      Thank you again, and I am still debating a pledge.

    17. Creator Orlando_the_Technicoloured on October 21, 2013

      I'm on-board for the Asian chibi in a small way but I filled the survey in anyway as I'd have liked to pledge for everything

      basically the reason I can't pledge for more is finances and the other KS projects running/just finished at this time

    18. Creator Einarm on October 21, 2013

      I for one have not have any big problems with the quality or mold lines in this kickstarter. I have however had a quite large annoyance with the amount of work needed to get the release agent off most of my miniatures. But that is still doable. And the hand-sculpted miniatures in the Chibi-line are wonderful.

      What I am NOT pleased with are the 3D printed models. The amount of visible "grain" on them makes them of a VASTLY inferior quality to the models that are hand-sculpted. Especially the face detail and smaller limbs.

    19. Creator Taco van Vliet on October 21, 2013

      Hi Tom & Chris,

      Finally time for me to make some commends as well.

      First of this kickstarter was a bit of a bumpy ride. the main thing I took away from the bumps is the commitment of you guys to your customers. I have to commend you as so many others have done before on the excellent communication.
      For this reason I'm still interested in other kickstarters from impact. without this I would surely have given them a wide birth.

      next some comments on the asian kickstarter. I have not backed it thus far but will probably do so. although not for the same amounts as last time. (queen mo with some added on top)

      1. timing is awkward for me.
      I'm not only playing miniature games. most of my time is diverted to boardgames. Oktober is as most boardgame fanatics know time for SPIEL (Essen, Germany) the biggest boardgame convention with over a 2000 new games. you can understand that this stretches my wallet a bit. spending 400 on chibi's translates into buying 10 less games.

      2. theme.
      the asian theme is spot on for me. it's my main reason for considering to back this project as well. as noted by other. I've quite some miniatures already. coming up with suitable rules will be a challenge already.

      3 structure of the new kickstarter
      Although you explained the reasons for the new kickstarter levels. I'm missing the old ones.
      I'm finding it much harder to calculate how much money to pledge to get the models that i want. (one of all the type 2's and then some type one's that I fancy.
      furthermore, this kickstarter was a thrill-ride of strechgoals. always curious what would be added next. for the asian kickstarter the stretchgoals seem rather dull to me.

      4 miniatures in the new kickstarter.
      for me I'm going to use the miniatures in SDE. So I need lots of troops and only a few adventurers. for my taste I like to groups some monsters together (like undead, or orc &goblins or dragonwarriors) in this new kickstarter I'm missing this possibility. the troops that work well for this are the ninja's (which for me are more sculpted for the side of good then evil) and the kung fu (which I don't really fancy and also looks kind of good). If you take for instance the oni I would have loved some different sculpts from that and would easily see them as my main asian troop type. Also I would have loved some Kami or ashigaru soldiers or samurai (look for instance what magic the gathering did with the theme)

      5 adding old miniatures
      you've added some old miniatures. this is interested all though a bit haphazardly. I't might solve the troops issue for some people. I might buy some deep ones or other troops that i skipped the first time. (basically i't would be a discount of troops from this kickstarter and a combined shipping option)

      some last point on the future that I couldn't put into the survey.
      the strongest point of the first kickstarter was the appeal of the D&D series which many people remember fondly. I would love for you to go back and watch back the episodes and fill in the monsters (yes I know bullewugs are not allowed, they are sorely mist) lizardmen for instance could be moved a bit closer to the original series for my taste.

      ghostlight horror might work for me. I dislike cuthulu though. so as long a the range is big enough for every one I will probably join in.

      my ideal next project would consist of:
      5 to 8 type 2's ( 1 of each for me)
      10 heroes (I would take about 6, one of each)
      8 + monstertypes/groupes with 2 to 4 sculpts per type/group (so 2 different orc's and two different goblins make up a group for me) (I would probably take 4 groups for 20 models per group, this could easily be higher depending on how close the groups are to my taste)
      Ideal price, around 500 (for around 100 models including some type 2's) special add-on like 5 headed dragons not counted.

      well that's all.

      Thanks again for this terrific kickstarter!

      Regards,

      Taco

    20. Creator Darksteed on October 21, 2013

      I'm currently in at $30 for the Asian Chibi KS. There's a couple reason's I'm not backing higher. Number one is the other number of mini based KS's currently out there. This KS for me is at the bottom end for me. No offense. Other's take higher priority. Though I do want to still support you guys at Impact. Secondly, I'm a monster/creature guy. I could care less about humans (or elves, or dwarves). This KS doesn't have very many to choose from and the ones it does have aren't super appealing to me currently. Though you can't please everyone. So it's no worry. Hope this helps you out some.

    21. Creator Sjeng on October 21, 2013

      filled it in.

      I'm not in, have plenty of chibis for now, not interested in the Asian theme, I'm in on Bones 2 atm, and they require a lot of prep work.
      That's it in a nutshell :)

    22. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 21, 2013

      @Ian Plumb ... we created a pledge level just now just for you. (we try to work with our backers).

      @Ropya ... we are redoing all the Lion based moulds to improve the quality. Check out my link in my first post to this comment thread and you'll see the results of the first one we've paid to have redone.

      And folks might have missed it ... but we could not get the quality where we wanted it on the Giant Cobra or Orc with Polearm so we've pulled those moulds and permantently retired the figures (so those are now KickStarter exclusives by accident ... but still KickStarter exclusives). We'd rather retire the mould than make figures that are not going to be able to get up to the quality we are trying to reach.

    23. Creator Ropya on October 21, 2013

      @Impact,
      Thank you for responding.
      I will say that I did indeed contact you regarding a couple bad mis casts that I just couldnt use.
      I was replied to quickly and assured the replacements were on the way.
      So I meant no disrespect in your company or its products.
      The other figures I received are indeed usable, just will require a lot of clean up.
      Flash mainly.
      But a few casting bubble holes here and there.
      And filling in seams. Especially on the Lion based figures.
      But ive learned how to use green stuff thinned a bit to fill issues like that in.
      So again, no worries.
      Great product.
      I may in fact have to rethink the Asian KS if, as you say, the QC has been stepped up.

    24. Creator Andrew Hayford (Raging Herald) on October 21, 2013

      The biggest issue for me is money right now. Lots of good KS's going right now, and other things taking up my cash. I have so many unpainted figures right now, that I just have built up too much of a backlog. I really like your stuff though. Was happy with the first KS.

    25. Creator Ian Plumb on October 21, 2013

      For me there are two issues. Firstly, this Kickstarter provided enough Chibi minis to last a lifetime. I don't play that much SDE that I am left scratching my head mid-game wondering where I could get a bunch of suitable Asian-style Chibi minis. Secondly, Kickstarter itself makes it very hard to create a Pledge that is a simple "one of everything". But that's the Pledge I want. I don't want to have to up my Pledge every time the KS hits a Stretch Goal. Not much to be done about that though.

    26. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 20, 2013

      @SacredRoach ... we did offer a discounted set of 10 of the most popular Asian chibi figures in pewter as part of the KickStarter as an additional answer to your questions. Think I answered them all now:
      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/674003445/chibi-asian-adventurers-miniatures-w-ninjas-and-mo/posts/622900

      Since they do not need to be marked up to account for wholesale pricing ... we could sell them for a less expensive price than the numbers I quoted below.

    27. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 20, 2013

      @SacredRoach ... sorry forgot to answer one of your questions. In pewter ... The TYPE 1 figures would cost between $15 to $20 each and the TYPE 2s would be between $60 to $100 each.

    28. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 20, 2013

      @Ropya ... adding on to address. As a result of this Kickstarter, quality checks have been added both at Trollforged and Impact! for the figures being sent to us. In addition, Impact! has added on manpower hours to clean up the figures for gating and flash during the quality check before accepting the figure to our inventory. This is mentioned in the update that I linked to ... but wanted to post it openly here as well.

    29. Creator Impact! Miniatures on October 20, 2013

      @SacredRoach. We posted on the Asian Chibi KickStarter an update on quality of the castings and our commitment to make this a high quality line of miniatures. You can see the full details here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/674003445/chibi-asian-adventurers-miniatures-w-ninjas-and-mo/posts/633273

      There was a massive learning curve for all 3 major parties involved with this KickStarter (Trollforged, Impact! and MKUltra) and we all are taking everything we learned to make sure the Asian are high quality and to improve the Dungeon chibi based on what we've learned (including paying again for all new moulds for several figures).

      As for the figures from this KickStarter. If you have any figures that you found unexpectable in casting quality ... please message us the list and we will replace them. No one should ever have to accept receiving product from our company that is not acceptable to them. So feel free to message us and we'll replace the figures that make you feel the results from this project were unacceptable and removed your good faith.

      The Unicorn for example that you mention has had an entirely new organic rubber mould made since the KickStarter.

    30. Creator Ropya on October 20, 2013

      Hate to say it by my feelings are close to the same.
      I love the minis.
      They look fantastic.
      I got over $800 worth if I can recall.
      Multiples of nearly everything for SDE.
      And my single greatest is thought is 'wow, thats going to be a LOT of clean up/ prep work'.
      The Asian chibi looks great too, but for now im skipping it due to the issues with the first one.

    31. Creator SacredRoach on October 20, 2013

      My largest concern is amazingly uneven quality of the figures. The Scorpion Queen (all 3 of mine) had very clean bodies and torsos, but the head...massive slipped mold line right across the top on all three. The Unicorn had thick mold release agent and slipped mold lines again. The Cavalier...perfect. Absolutely perfect, and literally needed no cleanup. The Cthulhu Cultist...outside of a little flash on the robes and the tentacles, almost no cleanup required. I will not discuss the Nightmare.

      This was my first sample of Trollcast...having not recieved my Helsvact from Red Box yet...and I am unimpressed. The material is great...cleans nicely, easy to trim, etc., but the actual casts harken back to the to-and-fro that Tre and Ed had a couple of months back. I fully understand where Tre was coming from.

      I do want to back the Asian Chibi KS, but I cannot do so in good faith given the results of this project. I may still pick up 5 or 10 of them, but I am still apprehensive. How much more would the cost to be cast in metal?