Frequently Asked Questions
I think I'd ask that question myself if I didn't work in this crazy industry and have some small inkling of how shit gets made.
First of all Fincher and Blur have spent over half a million of our own money already trying to get THE GOON off the ground in the "traditional way". High quality CGI animation, talent, script, option, development art ect. are not cheap at feature film level. So far that's ALL have been out of our pockets and so far that hasn't worked--lots of interest, lots of meetings but no film.
Could we put more of our own money--of course we could (and will). Would that alone be enough to convince a studio? I doubt it-- because it hasn't worked so far.
But engaging the fans, getting the backing of the community and seeing a groundswell of support DOES have an effect on how viable the project looks to Hollywood and MIGHT get the full film funded. They'll see there's a fanbase willing to show support in a very concrete way.
Hollywood is FILLED with the "Vanity Projects" of successful movie stars and producers. It really is NOT as easy to get a film made no matter WHO you are. The more momentum we can build the better our opportunity of making it through the clutter of the competition and we believe giving the FANS a VOICE in the process will be a HUGE help.
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We certainly understand how some folks might view it that way--especially when there are plenty of Kickstarter projects asking for a few thousand bucks and making whole films with it.
But we plan to make a Goon film that can compete with PIXAR quality animated films and--unfortunately--that kind of polish takes time and money. It takes the best artists--who are not going to work for free or come cheap--and it takes a fair amount of infrastructure to manage the process. Top quality animated films spend MILLIONS on developing the story reel and though we we plan to be incredibly efficient--it's still an expensive proposition.
And Blur/Fincher will no doubt still be kicking in even more money to get it finished. This may be OUR dream project but others won't work for free. This isn't just slapping some drawings together, it's working and re-working the story. And remember it has to be AMAZING--if it looks like shit or half-baked no studio is going to give us 35M to finish the film.
And lastly don't forget taxes, amazon fees and the cost of making/shipping the prizes. All take away cash from what we can spend on the storyreel itself. Not griping about that--just saying it needs to be factored in.Last updated:
That is an excellent question. The answer is that we believe having the whole film online would cause serious issues with any studio who wants to back the project. Less incentive to see the final film and jokes get stale with repeated viewing.
We also still believe in having the audience NOT know the whole story of the film when the sit down in the theatre--I'm not a fan of trailers giving away the whole story and seeing the reel would give away EVERYTHING. If you're a fan of the comic you'll have an inside line but for the 99% of the audience who've never read the comic this should be a surprise.
BUT... it's a great point and we need to explore it. Perhaps there is a way to show parts of the story reel or perhaps the opening act. We're going to work out some kind of strategy for that and then update folks.
We're also looking into what would be involved in doing a digital download of the whole film after it's theatrical run. Quite honestly we simply don't know and it's a difficult question to answer with all the various legal permutations of a studio deal. We don't want to promise something we can't deliver and we're trying to get more information.Last updated:
We've been trying for years to get this film made--story meetings, developing the script, doing animation tests, studio pitch meetings, development art, etc. etc. And we haven't gotten the job done.
During that time KICKSTARTER came on the scene in a big way and the hardcore fans of the Goon began petitioning Eric for years to let them help through a Kickstarter campaign.
Honestly we were dubious--first of all we need 35M to make the film at the level we want to make it and it deserves--and that kind of funding isn't what Kickstarter is structured for. But fans kept asking Eric.... and Eric kept asking us.... and we kept failing to get the job done through traditional channels.
Finally we came up with--we hope--a way that we can create something that will move the ball forward and do it at a cost that falls within the realm of what we could reasonably ask the fans for via Kickstarter. We know it would be GREAT if it was the finished film, but it's just not possible, but we believe this can really move the needle.
Not just having something that we can sit studio execs in front of to watch, but also a grand gesture of support for the fans for the project. Hollywood feels warm and fuzzy when they KNOW there's an audience for material--this will help prove that.Last updated:
We should be so lucky! But if we were we would continue development:
More production Design: We've only begun to scratch the surface on all the development art and production design. We would continue to flesh out the design of the characters and the world.
3d Animatic: We'd transition the storyreel into a full 3D animatic--basically making a version of the film with simplified 3d assets that further informs the timing, the camera work and the animation. Creating a 3d animated film is a process which hopefully makes the film clearer at every step.
Animation tests: We'd love to do more examples of what the finished film will look like. The tests we did were designed to show the relationship between Goon and Frankie--what we think is the heart of the film. But we would LOVE to do a more action-centric piece, something with a little good old-fashioned knuckle busting zombie action.Last updated:
Before GLADIATOR finally got made every studio turned the project down--some more than once. But they believed in the project, kept trying and EVENTUALLY someone saw the potential and took the risk of doing something different. (different because "Sword and Sandal" movies were long out of favor in Hollywood)
If we believed it was impossible neither blur nor Fincher would be wasting time on this film OR asking for fans to help us. We believe it can be done--it's just very, very hard.
And if we DO get our chance to make this film Fincher is the key to not letting it be ruined by the USUAL bullshit that leads to bad films. He is a man who knows how to protect his vision--and ours in this case--so that the creative isn't compromised by the commercial.
We're not interested in making the usual drek--hence our previous efforts to get this made, hence our current efforts and---win or lose here on Kickstarter--our future efforts; we will keep trying. There is no quit on this team.Last updated:
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