by 5 Lives Studios
Jul 2, 2013
Remember to go vote for Satellite Reign on Steam. Tell your friends, tell your enemies, even tell your mum.
Greenlight has nothing to do with Early Access. Greenlight is the mechanism by which developers who don't already have a relationship with Steam / Valve to get their game on Steam. It's 100% up to the developer then if they wish to release the complete game on the Steam store as usual, or release the alpha / beta through Early Access, but the two are unconnected.
I agree, the Planetary Annihilation debacle (the response to it through Steam forums) was embarrassing to see, although I think Uber could have saved themselves a lot of pain by being much clearer on their Early Access page why the price was so high. By the time they implemented damage control, the horse had bolted with rockets strapped to it.
But don't let any of that put you off voting for this on Greenlight. I'm just amazed that it has to go through that pit of horror in the first place, but I'll be voting for it all the same.
I have to concur, especially after seeing what happened to the Planetary Annihilation Early Access. Much like I imagine you would need to, PA priced the Early Access Alpha at the same price as the Kickstarter. Which is naturally a lot higher than most Early Access titles.
Whilst reaction on basically every other part of the internet was understanding of this, the Steam forums have been nothing short of apoplectic, and largely immune to reason.
I'm talking endlessly repeated and recreated threads decrying "Greedy developers" and "Idiot backers", with some of the more stalwart literally setting up fake accounts each time they're banned to spam more threads. The availability of purchase at a lower price doesn't seem to assuage anything, and it's any developers who try to explain the situation are largely decried as lying and financially incompetent (demanding more money because they obviously blew through their KS funding on crap and are now "gouging" for more).
It's quite frankly, a mess. The forums are still pretty toxic, the devs had to set up a separate Steam sub-forum purely for those that had already backed, and the community backlash extended to things like review-bombing metacritic and constant refrains that you should pirate the game "for great justice".
I'm not making any of this up, you can look it up on the PA Steam forums yourself.
In the grand scheme of things, I suspect it won't come to much, but I also don't think it's been a net positive. So basically, you go on Early Access at that pricepoint for the Alpha, I'd say it's fairly likely you'll get a rage response. The only real way I see that not happening is if it becomes a consistent trend that Kickstarted devs start posting Alpha's on there at higher prices, but you'll still be amongst the first to do so, so YMMV.
That's an excellent point Chris, and one I hadn't considered. I don't think Steam is a good alpha/beta testing audience; it's gotten too mainstream. Good for Valve, but bad for developers in this specific instance: your audience will not understand what "early access" means.
That said, it's my understanding that Greenlight does not equate to Early Access. Greenlight just means when the game is done, it will get on Steam. Early Access is something else.
Added my vote on steam, gonna love this game,
Voted and commented. :)
I won't vote, simply because Steam Early Access has done nothing but completely rip apart a games reputation.
I have never seen positive comments on the Steam forums about an Early Access game, it is just thread after thread of people complaining about an over expensive, unfinished game.
While they are in the wrong to complain, it doesn't stop them. They still do it, and it ruins the game.
also a random: +1 for physical game box ;)))
Voted. Also.. Hi Dablue!
LOL, actually it was the other way around. Brent's Mum told ME! Done and Done.
my mum says hi!
Done, I'll try and get a few friends to do it as well.
done and done.