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Hi Volker, Thanks for the feedback. It's been interesting seeing who likes which version. The original cut will come back eventually, and without the travel features when it does. Thanks again for letting me know and I'm glad you like the originals!
I got 2 of the new cut and although they are really great too - the original cut is by far superior for me. I have a 35/36 in the old cut, 34/36 in the new cut and the waist is good but the area around the front pockets just doesn't fit right. I also don't see the value in all those sub-pockets - it is more annoying than useful really. Don't wanna sound too negative - still a great pair of pants but again: The old cut was perfect for me. Had to pay taxes (shipping to germany) :-(
Michael, I'm so glad. that was the goal of the new cut. And what a great connection! I'll reach out to Eric at http://corterleather.com/. He's got some beautiful belts too!
Got the new style today. Love them. The fit is better for me.
The slash, zippered and phone pockets are great.
I especially love the loop in the right front pocket. Perfect for my keys as I am the Corter Leather Bottle hook key ring from a different another Kickstarter.
Thats a fair question, Kon. The hint is - you dont wear the next thing on your legs.
As for the pants, you'll be wearing them for Thanksgiving! Many thanks.
The new style looks great, just purchased 2 pairs from your store hopefully they arrive in time before my xmas trip.
so Stefan, can you give us some hint about your next kickstarter project??
Update #25 is published, with a report on progress with the second style.
We're adding a second style with hidden zippered pockets for travel. I just posted Update #24 with all the details. Will be sold at www.bluffworks.co soon.
I can't quite picture the fabric sample, but just like granite the rock. Not totally white, and not checkered. Speckled?
If not that, then a really light light grey.
I have the grey pants, and the other colours don't work for me
Plus when summer comes, even grey is too dark.
Brianb_ie: I'm so glad, and that's really nice of you to say.
fefrie: Great review. Thanks for the detailed rundown. No washer in sight sounds good!
The news from here is the second style of a regular khaki style pant with slash pockets is in sampling now. I'll post an update for everybody's feedback when I have a pair to take pics of.
After a long process, I finally have my pants and they are worth the wait! The feel of the pant is definitely technical, but the look from 1 foot or farther is definitley wool (I have the grey version)
I had a problem with ordering sizes. I'm 5'8' 155lbs. I'm considered athletic, but reasonably slender, and when I buy pants, I always buy a 30" waist but the inseam varies from 30" or 32".
I didn't follow the sizing pattern, so I just bought what I considered would be the same in the BW pants. They were too small! The waist was too tight!
So after agonizing on the sizing, and this time measuring my hips WITHOUT pants on at the level where I would usually have my belt level, I measured an actual 31.5". An actual 31.5" means that I wear a size 30" when I buy jeans.
I had an old pair of jeans where I cut out the belt line, and when comparing my jean beltline with the BW pantline, I noticed that the jean waist has a bit of a stretch to it sort of like when you wear jeans that are fresh, and jeans that are old. I noticed on the BW pants, is that they do not stretch or give very much in the waist, so err on the larger size for your fattest days.
Since the 30"W pant was too crazy tight in the waist and butt, I nervously ordered a 32"w since I thought that only one upsize really wouldn't be enough, although I NEVER wear a 32"w anywhere else.
So the 32" waist is a perfect fit! I can pinch an inch in fabric on the thigh which is relaxed enough for me!
The fabric needs to wrinkle out from the packaging (not that bad) and the fabric needs to be washed to relax a bit so they 'wear in' a bit, but I instantly started wearing them, so it will be a couple of weeks before they actually hit the wash!
No sit down crotch wrinkles. This is AMAZING!
I returned my pants for a slightly looser fit and all I can say is the replacements are just perfect! They are comfortable and stylish and of course the wrinkle free(ness) works just like described.
I'm very very pleased and looking forward to more colours coming out soon.
Finally a kickstarter project that has delivered what it set out to do.
Thanks Stefan and team.
A second guy named Darren just emailed: "I finally received the Bluff pants and they are nothing short of "Amazing!" Just wearing them I noticed a difference right of the bat. The material and fit is very different and I can tell it's great quality and unlike any other pants I've worn". Awesome!
Thanks, Darren. The cut you describe is precisely what I'd like to do next. I'm glad the current version is treating you well and I'll be sure to let you know when the next cut becomes available.
Been using my pants for a couple of weeks now and they are good. I would prefer a more relaxed cut with the pockets cut along the side seam. If you ever decide to do another kickstarter with that design I would definitely buy another 3 pairs.
I just received my pants, they look and feel great ! Keep up the good work !
Do you consider making shirts or other pieces of clothing ? I'm sure it would be a hit if you'd aim for the same goals of style, comfort and ease of care as you did for the pants.
Right on, Ed! Wow, little did I know how in demand the blue could be. It will be at the top of our list for the next colors. Thanks!
+1 for navy/dark blue here as well!
My experience with the pants have been pretty much the same as everyone else -- my regular dress pants I've always hung up making sure the creases line up and all that. My Bluff Works pants I just threw into a drawer. A couple of weeks later, I took a pair out and put them on and they still looked great.
What has really impressed me is how comfortable they are. After work I usually I can't wait to get home and get into a pair of shorts or comfortable jeans. The other night, when I went to change just before getting into bed, I was surprised to find I was still wearing my Bluff Works pants. Changing into something else after work hadn't even crossed my mind.
Bravo. Thanks, Dan!
Hi Stefan, I just wanted to leave a comment that your pants were everything I thought they would be and then some. I've gotten more compliments on my two pairs of slacks than I have with all my other slacks combined. I'd also want to +1 fo rthe navy/dark blue :)
+1 for the navy/dark blue :)
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. We'll look into the pockets. As we do a traditional chino style, that might help. And we'll put blue officially on the radar. Thanks again. I'm glad they fit you so well!
A bit of a delayed feedback, but I wanted to say that the pants are greats! I love the variety of sizes you offered -- 33x30 is perfect for me (usually I have to go a bit snug at a waist of 32 or a bit loose at 34 with most pants). Nice enough to wear to the office, rugged enough to wear the rest of the day.
A couple of thoughts, if it hasn't been mentioned already:
1. I wish the front pockets were just a bit deeper. I carry most of my stuff in my front pocket (wallet, phone, keys) as I find it easier to keep track of them (and arguably harder to be pickpocked).
2. I'd buy a pair in navy/dark blue in a split second, if the color were available! For now, though, I'll just use the discount to buy another pair of khaki Bluffs. :)
Ugh - just heard from a customer in Germany who received his pants shipped on 12/6. Total of 40 days. Yikes.
I'm thinking focus on the PLAY side, and stay away form the WORK side and you'll be OK! Cheers.
Got my pants yesterday, and rocking out in a pair today. So far I'm loving them! Must be something with the way pants fit me, but my 38s fit like my other pants...and here I was gonna use them to motivate a bit of New Year's weight loss :P
Hi Christopher, they shipped on 12/28.
The first batch of international orders aren't receiving shipment confirmations, but all new orders are. Sorry about that. I expect they will arrive within the next few days. Drop me a line when you get them!
I was just wondering if my pants have shipped. They should have shipped over 10 days ago but haven`t received a tracking number or anything saying they shipped yet.
Hi Dan, That size is fully in stock and will ship the same day you order them. I just sent a coupon to you via email.
The vast majority of color and size combinations will be in stock this Friday, which is the same day we'll ship the final Kickstarter orders. Thanks for the note, and I'm glad you love them!
I've worn my Bluffs on a number of different occasions so far and still love them. Thinking about ordering another pair (Dark Dark Grey in the same size 33 waist / 32 length).
Do you now approximately when they would be able to ship?
Also, what's this about a coupon? :)
Hi Sharil. Yes, your pair shipped on December 3rd and should have arrived by now. I'll send you a message and we can discuss.
Hi Danny. No but your pair is at the warehouse. I expect they will be received Thursday and ship on either Thursday or Friday of this week. You'll receive a tracking number when they go.
The inventory being received now will enable me to fulfill the remaining Kickstarter orders. That will be a great day!
still have not received my pants. have they shipped ?
Just wondering if my pants have left the building (first time asking that to anybody that's for sure).
I know some of my countrymen have been receiving them.
Cant wait to use abuse and reuse them soon!
Jonathan and Lawrence: I just sent both of you coupons in email.
I loved Jonathan's story of wearing them so many nights in Mexico. Whenever I used to travel before having Bluffs, it drove me crazy to wrinkle my pants after just one dinner. So I'm glad they worked for you.
Lawrence: love that you're in Miri, Malaysia. Sorry on the duties, as we can't alter the market value due to the legal risk.
Thanks for your notes!
I would love to get a few more pairs, just got back from a trip to Mexico and I wore the pants every night. They still look perfect and fit great.
Can I get hooked up with a coupon too?
As for the tax issue, it would help many international buyers (who are ordering through your website) if the value of the pants are under-declared. Though some would consider that dishonest..... =P
Received my Bluff yesterday. Awesome cutting. Love the fit.
I need to get me a few more pairs of these. So...what's this I'm reading about a coupon? =)
Awesome. Dirk! I hope you get lots of kilometers out of them. Thanks for letting me know.
Received mine 2 days ago in The Netherlands. Fit is great! I like the fabric a lot too. It already survived a very rainy night with lots of traffic and mud pools. Spotless the next day! ;)
Hey Stephen. Best pants? Hot damn, that's amazing!!! I love that you're enjoying them.
They're available now on www.bluffworks.co and anything in stock ships the same day. All colors in your size are available. As a thanks, I'll send you a coupon to take the edge off some extra pairs.
Stefan, got my bluff today and WOW! These are the best pants I've even worn, comfortable, fit amazing, and move when I move, no restrictions at all.
I was a little thrown off by the high pockets at first but I'm sure I'll appreciate it when I'm on my bike.
To bad I only ordered two pairs, wanted to test them first but rest assured as soon as you start accepting orders I am going to replace the rest of my pants with the other two colours. Can't wait to rock your brand everywhere I go, keep up the amazing work!
Aw, bummer. Sorry you got hit with taxes. It sounds like some other countries, like Canada have been OK so far. On the upside - I'm glad they fit! Enjoy.
Hi Stefan, got my pants! Delivered in the Netherlands, just a heads up to other backers, i had to pay custom fee unfortunately. But nice looking pants and fit me well!
I just sent an email to everyone who doesnt have a pair of Bluffs with a shipment of date of:
- All remaining pairs with inseam 28 / 30 / 32 will ship by December 28th
- All remaining pairs with inseam 34 / 36 / 40 will ship by January 4th
I saw them in production in the factory today. Thanks for checking in. This is the last batch of unfulfilled orders, and from here on out we will accumulate the inventory to ship orders the same day they are ordered (or tell you when something is out of stock).
Thanks for checking in. Would love to see what you're baking for the holidays... Stefan
Hey Stefan, I was going to shoot you an email but can't find it on my phone. Like the others, wanted to check in to see if I'm one of those 61 pants that didn't ship from the update back on 11/22. Let me know. Thanks!
Alexander and Rolando - both of your orders are being held up by the light grey being out. Latest they'll ship is Dec 26th, however I have some options to discuss with you and will send both of you emails. Thanks for checking in.
Everyone else - I will message everyone without Bluffs via email tomorrow. And publish a more fun update for all backers after that. Thanks.
Hey Stefan, Im wondering if my bluff pants were shipped or not, and if the answer is yes if is a tracking number available.
Thanks and i cannot wait anymore to wear it!
Hi Stefan, do you know when my pants leave the US?
Hi Danny, Sorry for the trouble. I still need you to check out. I'll resend all of the info. Your coupon code hasn't been used yet. Thanks, Stefan