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Wow. Just wow.
So this is interesting. It seems that Mineserver LLC was registered in September/October 2015 in Wyoming. (https://wyobiz.wy.gov/Business/FilingDetails.aspx…)
It then became delinquent in paying taxes in October 2016 and was dissolved in December 2016.
If you look at the articles of organization (see the "Initial Filing" in the "History" section), the members of the LLC are Crookely himself and his 401k (no mention of the boys, but perhaps they can't be listed given that they're underage.) I'm not sure why he would include his 401k on the filing (I'm not a tax/money guy), but it seems odd to me. (btw, it's a Wyoming LLC because there is no corporate income tax in Wyoming.)
@Roger Thanks for summarizing everything pretty nicely on his latest blog post — I just didn’t have the words to comment after reading...
Crookely: Waaah, my kids are just wittle kids! Why you being so mean to them? And look at me, I had eye trouble! Waaah! All the Mineservers burned up because I couldn't be bothered to send them out and now the State thinks I'm dishonest! Waaaaaaaah!
My 15-year-old is ten times more responsible and honorable than Crookely. Heck, my 9yo is too. For that matter, I've seen piles of dog dirt that are more respectable than Crookely.
Update on his blog:
Happy New Year.
May 2018 bring all involved in this what they deserve.
Here comes Christmas. With nothing shipping from the cringely house, Except cards with our money likely in them. :)
@Jay Welshofer - Have you OR ANYONE contacted KickStarter ? I have - several times - without response from KickStarter. Perhaps KickStarter is partially at fault her as well - as they obviously not even attempting to help find a solution. I would bet KickStarter (if forced to respond) would say something like "KickStarter provides an avenue for entrepreneurs to crowdsource ideas and we take no responsibility in the actions or results of said entrepreneurs"... but we do profit by collecting fees from said entrepreneurs. We heard no evil - see no evil - speak no evil. We are not the villains you are looking for. Was that respectful or considerate enough KickStarter ? Considering I paid $184 and I feel I was ripped off ? KickStarter --- was it ? I think KickStarter needs to join this conversation. I think it's been 3 YEARS now.
@Jay Welshofer... that page https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012 seems to be for projects before 1/18/2014. The funding period for this failed mineserver project was Sep 29 2015 - Oct 21 2015 (22 days). I think this page https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use applies to current issue.
@John M. Wargo -- While his home was clearly threatened, there is no word on whether or not it was indeed affected in any way. In fact, there appears to be some evidence that his home was spared. If you punch in his address (1934 Los Alamos Road, Santa Rosa, CA) on this page: https://robinkraft.github.io/norcal-fires-imagery/compare.html you can see that his home may have actually escaped destruction.
Even if his home did burn down along with all the mineservers, that doesn't explain his silence here. I don't know if he's just hoping we'll all go away and he can forget about the whole debacle or if he's really the sort of privileged prick who thinks he doesn't have to answer to the common people who backed his project. (Frankly, I suspect is a little of the former and a lot of the latter.)
As for being blind, he seems to be able to generate the occasional column on his website; surely he could manage to post (or have one of his boys post) something, even if it's simply "Sorry, we screwed up, it's over."
As I've said before (and, sadly, will likely have to say again), I know how hard it is to say publicly "I've made a mess of things; I'm sorry." I had to say that to the backers of my kickstarter project, a number of whom were friends and family. It's not easy, but if you're a grown-up and a person of honor, you do it. Crookely seems to be neither.
Do you know him personally? Do you know his house burned down? Do you know if he is blind? We don’t know anything and unless you know him personally you don’t either.
You all know Mark is blind, and his house burned down, right? I'm certain all the equipment they purchased burned in the fire and we'll never see it.
The only Christmas gift I want shipped from mineserver is my refund.
I hope the boys are getting the Mineservers in the mail to make sure they are delivered by Christmas. :)
"Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
I demand a full refund for my pledge amount.
And another Thanksgiving gone by. My son actually asked if the server might come this year...
So it has been 1 year since the last update on Kickstarter where Crookely announced that "we'll finally start shipping the week after Thanksgiving." I wonder if he meant Thanksgiving 2017?
(On the upside, this revealed a bug in my code to calculate date difference at http://www.sinasohn.net/Mineserver/)
Apparently we're to be graced with an update on the 'Mineserver Jihad' (his words, not mine) at some point in the next week or so.
Forgive me if I don't hold my breath for that one.
I missed the day. But the two year mark passed.
This project, more so than any other, I thought had a good chance of reaching a resolution. Others, I gave up on much sooner; I think that I thought that, because of his very public reputation, Crookely would be more likely to -- eventually -- follow through on this. Or perhaps that's what I hoped, for his sake.
But it seems that he didn't see this as important enough (or that he's too important) to bother with, once the shine wore off.
With the destruction of his home, I guess it's finally time for me to face the reality and move this from the "Active" folder to the "Abandoned", in such fine* company as Znaps, gStick, Sum Wars, and Animusic 3.
"And when he falls, he falls like Lucifer,
Never to hope again."
Force majeure, you say? How convenient �
Oh well, it's been fun*
Since Mineserver is now a commercial enterprise (supposedly), I doubt Mark's insurance would cover that loss. Besides, he would probably just spend it on another military jet>
I agree with John, I felt this ended long ago but felt that we deserved actual closure and to not just be left in the wind...
Well, when he claims on the insurance he can send out refunds.
... I'm not holding my breath. This one went in the "Creator defaulted" folder long ago.
So… It appears Mark’s house burnt down Sunday in the California wild fires. I assume the Mineserver hardware was still inside the house. Having your home burn down is a tragic event and I pray his family is safe. This may be the end to the Mineserver saga.
Can’t wait for my two year old technology with dead batteries.
Happy to report that Mr Cringley still finds time to pontificate about startups etc. over on Quora.
The brass neck...
Wonder if this will even work with the current version of Minecraft?
Only 2 years? Feels like this has been going on for an eternity already!
Ok coming up to October. Almost 2 years since project launch.
@Will Harden -- Crookely claims he's still working on it and will send out the Mineservers Real Soon Now(tm). His claim is that he ran out of money so he hired a bunch of fancy lawyers and started a real corporation. You can read all about it here, if you're so inclined: http://www.cringely.com/2017/05/22/mineserver-update-not-dead-yet/
@Roger Thanks for the follow up, I was aware of that but had noticed that day that the "creator" was even more AWOL. I've backed maybe 15 projects so far (watching a few more) from $20 to $2K and this project has been by far the worst! Every now again I check back in here, and it always leaves me confused as to why they wouldn't just shutdown (or send out hardware we "bought" as-is and shutdown).
@Will Harden, in all fairness, there was an update a little over 9 months ago (you can check it here: http://www.sinasohn.net/Mineserver/) but, yeah.
He did post about it on his blog back in may saying that they were going to send out the mineservers to backers, but you know how well that turned out. He also lawyered up which, it seems to me, is almost an admission of guilt.
No "Creator" login for just about a year, I'm pretty sure this was abandoned at this point... I'd like to call it a scam, but they obviously never took it as seriously as they pretended to!
Coming up to September.
Cringely has been starting his Blogs with “I’m not dead yet!”. Maybe we should all let him know his backers are Not Dead Yet!
I can't believe how close we are getting to another Christmas without one.
Roger how long ago was Fallon's update. At least a month. Notice they said any day now. (Another wrong time estimate.) this is breaking Kickstarter code.
I don't understand how Kickstarter keeps letting people get away with this. We've not received anything and my kids have moved up two grade levels and lost most interest in minecraft by now. Shame on you. And shame for teaching your kids that scamming people is OK. Karma is a really horrible thing, and I hope they never have to experience something like this
Almost reaching August
Thanks for keeping us updated, Roger!
I tend to forget about this project (not unlike, ahem, some people pretty important to the project's completion) and then check back on it because I've given up so much hope at its completion at this point. Maybe its a psychological subconscious coping mechanism. Not sure.
Not the first undelivered KS I've backed. I would just like updates, like we all keep saying.
So, in case anyone still cares, Crookely now says he's blind (Cataracts) and his latest column was typed by his son Fallon. Too bad Fallon couldn't type something up over here (what with this supposedly being the kids' project anyway.)
Fear not, dear backers -- Crookely is getting surgery and will be back in business and pumping out Mineservers any day now.
(Also, I hear he has some ocean front property in Kansas for sale.)
What a joke
@Scott At least you're not alone...
I meet the definition of insane. Keep looking at the Mineserver project expecting different results.
Can you just give us an actual eta that's not getting delayed again.
We've waited a year and a half already.
Given that some have searched for "MineServer" and failed to find any Delaware registration, it looks like the latest update -- given at the blog, NOT here for backers -- is as much vaporware as the rest of this project. My comment there:
Backing this project didn't bankrupt anyone. Nor was it bought for a backer -- it was for their kids. Like mine, who've remembered and ASKED why this wasn't under the tree -- TWO YEARS IN A ROW!
This wasn't a "gamble", it was sold as a READY-TO-SHIP project, by someone with a long history in the field, on the basis of reputation. Failure to ship ANYTHING is bad; failure to communicate with backers rubs salt in the wound.
Cringely is a writer, not a businessman. He has deadlines to meet, not payroll. He pleases editors, not customers. He crafts words, not products.
Don't hold your breath on delivery -- of anything.
I assume Chase is being ironic.
There is a mention - in the update that isn't an update - that the first order of business is to ship existing orders. It also mentions that the SD card will be bigger. Update 9 showed a box of 8Gb SD cards so 16Gb cards are costing extra money. Has the code got that much bigger?