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SYMBIOSIS: An art book exploring a world where all technology is powered by biological engines that are deeply linked to humans
SYMBIOSIS: An art book exploring a world where all technology is powered by biological engines that are deeply linked to humans
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    1. Steven Sanders Creator on July 7

      Hi Britta, (and anyone else reading this)

      I understand your frustration, and have been living hand to mouth since... last summer?, and know it sucks. Seems like things for you are particularly tough now, and you have my sincere sympathies.

      I'll spare you things that may come off as excuses, and just say that updates have been lacking due to needing to back-burner everything that didn't help me avoid another depressive episode from overwork/hustling for work/money. Not a complete success, that, but so it goes. Still moving forward.

      The quote from a while back is the reason for lack of timelines, etc. I don't want to keep saying things will happen, only to have them not pan out.

      I'll be sure to address the other things you brought up in the next update, scheduled for next week.

      Take care,

      steven

    2. Britta Carlson on July 7

      In case we need a quote from two years ago to really qualify where I'm coming from:

      So long story short, I've been rebuilding my mental and fiscal foundation so I can do things right, and am finally properly entering the "make money money" stage, after which I'll take a break to finish book art (we are about 90% finished) and get it formatted for the printer, printed and shipped. (and copy edited, for those who are painfully aware of my poor grammar/syntax) Due to the timeline for the comic gig, and how back-end money is paid out (I'm getting a page rate too, but it won't be enough alone to cover everything) we are looking at next spring for a ship date. I'll release the Ebook as soon as it is formatted, so people won't have to wait for print if they don't want to.

    3. Britta Carlson on July 7

      I am also dirt poor and could really use some of my own hard earned money back in my pocket. I hate being put in a position to feel bad about myself for being upset with a person I don't even know, who is clearly struggling, for basically taking almost a hundred dollars from me in good faith and then declining to pay it back. In some cultures that would be considered stealing?

    4. Britta Carlson on July 7

      I can empathize with your mental and emotional state as I have issues of my own and struggle as well... I just think that there isn't enough transparency with the actual project here. And I would also appreciate a refund if you are not able to come forward with any new information or a legitimate timeline

    5. Britta Carlson on July 7

      It isn't that I would mind waiting, and I have waited years in some cases for kickstarters to pan out... it's just that you haven't given your backers a single solitary shred of evidence that you are actually working on this project. You could be posting the occasional picture of update, but instead you wait a year or six months at a time and come back with more apologies and excuses

    6. Britta Carlson on July 7

      I've actually received refunds from kickstarters before, and I know that it is within your power to do this even if you are not required or obliged to. I think that you should seriously consider cutting your losses on this one. I remember a video that you had posted a LONG time ago, where you unveiled a concrete book and it looked amazing and I remember thinking that it wouldn't be much longer...

    7. Steven Sanders Creator on March 18

      Hi Duncan,

      I'm copy/pasting from an earlier comment.

      "I understand the frustration with the lateness, and share it. It's a source of no small degree of shame and embarrassment while I'm trying to get the project back on its feet. I'm still focusing on trying to make enough money to finish the project/do it right, and working on new art when I can. The money-making is just not going as well as I had anticipated, so I'm still trying correct that.
      While I'd like to refund your $100, due to Kickstarter's "Kickstarter Is Not A Store" policy, and that I'm still moving forward, albeit slowly, with this project in good faith, I cannot offer refunds, as it will just slow things down for everyone else.
      I appreciate the patience of you and all the other backers (to the ones I've met in person, or in private discussion, or who have left comments, thanks again for your support and encouragement) as I continue to do what I need to do to finish the book. I've been essentially rebuilding my life all over again for the past two years, and it hasn't gone according to plan(s), but Symbiosis is still my baby, is something I'm always thinking about, and I can't wait to finish building that world and get it out there for everyone to explore and play in.
      Take care,
      Steven"

      And that all said, since you got the custom figure design + ebook level, and the Chapbook as been released, if there's enough there to get an idea of what kind of character you'd like, I'm more than happy to fulfill that part of the pledge!

      (and no disrespect taken. It's a frustrating situation. )

    8. DuncanCreamer on March 18

      I'd like a refund. It's been 3 years since the promised delivery date and you raised over 60k. I never received my pledge and frankly don't think I ever will. I mean no disrespect but this is too long and I'd like my money back.

    9. Steven Sanders Creator on February 27

      Hi Ben! Did you get the Chapbook update in December? (The 4 month comment made me want to make sure) I'm still trying to save up money doing comic work and working on the art when I can. Chapbook didn't bring in much, have a friend in advertising working on a relaunch.

    10. stl_ben on February 27

      Been another 4 months...any update?

    11. Steven Sanders Creator on October 28, 2016

      Hi Jonathan,

      I appreciate your comments and encouragement! I'll be sure to step up and let people know if I can't make the book happen as I had planned, but it will take more than this to get me to give up on it. :) I'm counting on "slow and steady wins the race" to make this book happen while keeping me healthy mentally. When time comes for getting the book to the printers/fulfillment, I'll be pulling in help to get things done properly and efficiently.

      Thanks again and take care!

    12. Jonathan Walters
      Superbacker
      on October 28, 2016

      Hi Steve,

      I have to say I'm disappointed that this project has stalled like it has, but I completely understand where you're coming from and am still looking forward to seeing the finished project which, as others have mentioned, is clearly a labor of love for you. Ultimately, all I care is that work is proceeding forward in good faith and we receive the kind of book that pulled so many of us into this project in the first place. All I ask is that if you find you're realistically unable to complete the project, please be up front with us about that and keep us all in the loop. This is an ambitious project for sure, and there's no shame in admitting if it's beyond what you can manage, given the situation. That said, I sincerely hope you're doing well and I still look forward to seeing your vision in my hands, no matter how long it takes. :)

    13. Lee Alley on October 12, 2016

      I must have missed an update but what happened to all the money from Kickstarter?

    14. Anw on October 4, 2016

      "I'm still focusing on trying to make enough money to finish the project/do it right..." We gave you $60,000... anyway, thanks for the update I guess...

    15. Steven Sanders Creator on October 2, 2016

      Hi Lee,

      I understand the frustration with the lateness, and share it. It's a source of no small degree of shame and embarrassment while I'm trying to get the project back on its feet. I'm still focusing on trying to make enough money to finish the project/do it right, and working on new art when I can. The money-making is just not going as well as I had anticipated, so I'm still trying correct that.

      While I'd like to refund your $10, due to Kickstarter's "Kickstarter Is Not A Store" policy, and that that I'm still moving forward, albeit slowly, with this project in good faith, I cannot offer refunds, as it will just slow things down for everyone else.

      I do have plans to get ~something~ out to people soon, to hopefully tide everyone over somewhat until I can finish the book properly, and will provide an update about that as soon as I get the details sorted.

      I appreciate the patience of you and all the other backers (to the ones I've met in person, or in private discussion, or who have left comments, thanks again for your support and encouragement) as I continue to do what I need to do to finish the book. I've been essentially rebuilding my life all over again for the past two years, and it hasn't gone according to plan(s), but Symbiosis is still my baby, is something I'm always thinking about, and I can't wait to finish building that world and get it out there for everyone to explore and play in.

      Take care,

      Steven

    16. Lee Alley on October 2, 2016

      This Kickstarter is 2 years over. Could I get a refund?

    17. Steven Sanders Creator on August 9, 2016

      Hey Corey,

      Yeah, it definitely is, I'm currently bogged down trying to make money to get the project back on track. The comic project I took on to hopefully do that isn't panning out quite how I had hoped, at least at the moment, and I'm trying to add on other sources of income. I've been putting off updates hoping I'd have something more concrete than "Still trying as hard as I can to get this rolling again" but I'll get one out as soon as I get a bit more breathing room.

    18. Corey Parker on August 9, 2016

      Is this Kickstarter still going to happen?

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      Nick Mercurio on April 29, 2016

      Hi Steve-

      Just got Project Update #26. You mentioned that you wished you had a preview of THROWAWAYS to show, but that the material is only in the hands of comics retailers. I just wanted to let you--and any interested parties--know that there's a 5-page preview in Image+ #1, the Image magazine that just came out this Wednesday. Art looks great! (And the magazine's only $2 if anyone wants to check it out.)

    20. Stephen Pieraldi on January 12, 2016

      Keep on keeping on. I agree with all the previous comments. While being "late" is never a good thing and being fashionably late is "a thing", no one expects everyone will be on time. Updates are greatly appreciated and keep your fans close. Never let fear keep you from the support you need. Your fan base is true if your communication is too. Be well and keep on the recovery. Looking forward to your vision.

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      HT Goh on November 23, 2015

      I think what we're trying to say is that we trust you and we understand the scope of this is pretty ambitious! It's not a tech object, it's not even 'just' a comic, it's summoning an entire mythos, and we're happy to be with you for the ride.

      So just trust us too! We're with you on this. It's kind of like people at your house party who love art, love your art, and want nothing but for you to make the stuff you want to make, including supporting you through the creative process (like having breaks so you can keep on truckin').

    22. Steven Sanders Creator on November 5, 2015

      Thanks Andy, that's... oddly comforting? I guess? But yeah, still pushing forward. I read old Popular Mechanics from the 30's before bed and take screen caps for inspiration. So there's an "excitement" folder building up.

      There's a local comic creator drink (coffee) and draw on saturdays and I'm working on Symbiosis when I can during that time. The last small-group update should have had a Tumblr link to some new work and another is going up tomorrow morning. stevensanders.tumblr.com

      I'm easing back into the large scale work with these smaller pieces/vehicles. Having fun and looking forward to making more!

    23. Andy Kitkowski
      Superbacker
      on November 5, 2015

      I looked into the old projects that are still not out, late years past their release dates...

      ...this one has NOTHING on the video game projects I backed (the ones that are still chugging along and actually proceeding forward, 2+ years of delay later).

      So no probs. Take your time and do it right. But please keep pushing forward. Take a few hours a week to set aside and keep it in motion.

      Best of luck. Thanks!

    24. roy cowing on September 30, 2015

      You "HOLD FAST" man. I fell in love with this back when I met you at SFAL 1. It is all good. Take your time, creation is what counts. Glad to hear things are progressing for you.

    25. Britta Carlson on September 26, 2015

      Good to hear Steven! Glad everything is going alright for you=]

    26. Steven Sanders Creator on September 15, 2015

      Hey Britta! Hm. "Frustrated and ashamed at the time it's taking to get back to speed, (though trying not to focus on it/let it impair progress) but now that I finally have some steady comic work and am seeing work efficiency get higher every day as I get healthy work/sleep/socializing habits dialed in, excited to get fiscals in shape, start putting out more Symbiosis art, and get this out to everyone."

      Or maybe "Holy Moses getting back on my feet is/was harder than I thought it was going to be, but I'm in this thing to win it."

      So.. a bit war-weary, and not yet where I'd like to be, but doing much much better and am excited and optimistic. :) Thanks for asking!

    27. Britta Carlson on September 15, 2015

      How you feelin Steve? I'm honestly wondering

    28. Steven Sanders Creator on April 5, 2015

      Hi Marwan, are you caught up on the updates? Those should fill you in on everything. If not, feel free to shoot me a message and I'll be happy to answer whatever I can.

    29. Marwan Marwan
      Superbacker
      on April 5, 2015

      Anyone hear anything? What's going on?

    30. Christophe on February 7, 2015

      Thanks for the first update of the year ! The waiting is abominable.

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      MARVIN STEPHENSON on January 27, 2015

      Any updates on the progress!!!

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      Michael Faries on January 1, 2015

      Happy New Year, Steven!

    33. David Churn
      Superbacker
      on October 19, 2014

      Steven, Thanks for the update.

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      Everett Thompson on September 29, 2014

      Steven - Take a deep breath, exhale and release all that angst. The book will happen and I will enjoy it. Take all the time you need.

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      HT Goh on June 24, 2014

      This must be the most amazing Kickstarter I've backed. It's difficult to trust projects sometimes when they're delayed but this so isn't the case here. Totally happy to wait for a great book. Well played Mr Sanders.

    36. Richard Bruning on June 19, 2014

      Wow. Those samples you sent the links out to in your last email were amazing. BUT, I think I've discovered why it's talking you so long. The details! Why, if you were to stop doing all those amazing little constructions and renderings and miniature buildings, heck, you'd be done in no time. winkyface.
      Seriously though, with art, it's almost always worth the wait when it's work of this calibre. Anxious to get my copy but take the time you need. It'll be worth it to everyone in the end.

    37. Steven Sanders Creator on May 27, 2014

      Hi Randy, I'd say within a month.

    38. Randy on May 27, 2014

      When can we expect to have an official update on the status of this project?

    39. Steven Sanders Creator on May 4, 2014

      hello! I've been trying to keep updates to a minimum/only major events due to hearing a lot of complaints about kickstarters with too many updates. :D I'm still grinding away on art, hope to have it to the printers in a little over a month, give or take. (I'm currently living on my credit card to get this finished ASAP. Gah. ) I should be getting a mock-up/dummy of the book for people to see soon. If you wish to see work in progress, I'm posting some of it on my tumblr at stevensanders.tumblr.com

    40. Necrozius on May 4, 2014

      Hello! The last update was a month ago. How's progress?

    41. Arnd Felten
      Superbacker
      on January 23, 2014

      How are things coming along?

    42. Don Balao on October 2, 2013

      thanks for the hard work steven, cant wait for my BIBLIOPHILE level, i hope my # is 135

    43. Steven Sanders Creator on October 2, 2013

      Hi Jack! Nope, I'll send a survey when we get close to shipping to make sure I have current addresses for everyone.

      thanks again for the support!

      steven

    44. Jack Hud on October 2, 2013

      I recently moved. I know the book won't ship for a while but do I need to change my shipping address somewhere or will a survey be sent out before shipping?

    45. Steven Sanders Creator on June 29, 2013

      Anyone asking about the book or ebook, they both have ship dates of next spring. Everyone's contributions are allowing me to take some time off and make the book in a year vs the ten years it would probably take if I only worked on it in my normal spare time. :) (I work 60-80 hr weeks to pay the bills as a freelancer.)

      Thanks!

      Steven

    46. FredH
      Superbacker
      on June 29, 2013

      Was the ebook ever sent? If so, I fear I may have accidentally deleted it.

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      Tyler Ross on June 16, 2013

      Nvm... I backed the ebook. Was it sent to my email?

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      Tyler Ross on June 16, 2013

      I believe I backed a print and never received it. Can you check on this for me. Thanks

    49. Gary Simmons on May 21, 2013

      Received the "Failing" print, nice work.

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