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Innovative suspension cruiser bicycle/frame, custom designed and built in Southern California by Cycles U.S.
Innovative suspension cruiser bicycle/frame, custom designed and built in Southern California by Cycles U.S.
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    1. Alan Discount Creator 2 days ago

      good news is coming. We finally got over a major hurdle last week. It looks like the funds are being set up in an escrow account for distribution. And once that is complete we also be able to start shipping bikes. Thanks for hanging in there.

    2. Daniel Pierson 2 days ago

      hey Alan, what's up?
      When are you going to do something about this?
      I still want you to give me back my money,
      such a very long, long time ago..

    3. Alan Discount Creator on February 19

      I have been asked the court if I can share more details and am awaiting their decision. If the agree this group will be copied directly on all communications from the court and parties involved with updates.

    4. Samuel Chieng on February 19

      Any updates, Alan?

    5. Alan Discount Creator on January 12

      Realized I did not answer one of your questions - the court has ordered that everyone at this point is to be made whole. If bikes were ordered they will be shipped complete. If refunds were requested they will be paid in full. I wish I had a hard end date for everyone, but each date that is given to me has slipped due to some action by the defendants, or in some cases, delays by those controlling the process.

    6. Alan Discount Creator on January 12

      Bruce -
      Without rehashing history too much as I have shared, a while after completing the campaign I was approached to sell the company. A deal went through months later for a private group of investors to acquire the business. One of the contractual components of the deal included them finishing and completing the kickstarter campaign. After a period that I can only describe as the new owners trashing the business at every turn, and them not making payments to us or honoring any of their obligations, we went to court to take back the business. Once the dust settled we had little left, a bad name, and a business in ruins. As a result of us winning two different civil lawsuits we felt we were on our way to getting not just the kickstarter situation but all of the other issues in the business resolved. But then the defendants continued to ignore court ordered actions that included restitution needed to complete the project. So we went back into court again. Ultimately the situation has been put in the hands of lawyers, accountants, and intermediaries. I have jumped up and down repeatedly to get everyone to communicate with everyone involved but I can only push so hard. The defendants have threatened to file bankruptcy which would not be a good result for any of us. So things have progressed far more slowly than anticipated (I know an understatement). I would love to share the names of the defendants and lawsuit info. But I am under a confidentiality agreement. Which is ironic, because it is only my name being dragged through the mud and they are at fault. The law works in strange ways and in this case is protecting the ones causing the issues. I am hoping the new year brings a speedy resolution and thank everyone for their patience.
      Alan

    7. Bruce Vollert on January 12

      Aloha Alan
      Holidays have passed..2017 Wow many years have gone by since this began and still nothing
      Could you please tell me what date the court set as the deadline{ 12/20 response to Daniel} and if possible What is the deadline for? Payment? Partial payment? What exactly does the settlement provide full payment or bikes or a fraction of payment? What court has heard this case and provided a verdict? A bankruptcy? a law suit settlement? or another type of case presented to a court of law? Please provide solid details and not a generalized glowing report of good times for all. Many of us have been patiently waiting and hoping you will come through. Please give us a response that is verifiable by a third party or a court of law. This has gone on long enough.
      All of us deserve that.

      Bruce

    8. Kim Smed on December 27

      Once again you have my hopes up... Here's hoping for a post-Christmas miracle. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you Alan.

    9. Alan Discount Creator on December 20

      After a bunch of back and forth issues, the court has imposed a deadline to get everything completed. I was lobbying for before the holiday but everyone shuts down for these two weeks. So it will be resolved right after. Thank you.

    10. Daniel Pierson on December 20

      Alan, you need to speak with attorneys again,
      it don't look like anything has been sorted out,
      there still hasn't been any good news.
      Just the same old tiring BS excuses from you.

    11. Alan Discount Creator on November 29

      Not the case at all. I spoke to the attorneys right before the holiday last week and everything now appears to be sorted out. Good news is coming for everyone involved.

    12. Daniel Pierson on November 29

      still nothing...
      I can understand that you are broke and can't afford to pay your debts,
      but you still haven't shipped anybody their bike, have you?
      You don't plan on making good on any of this, do you?

    13. Alan Discount Creator on October 23

      Not top secret. Legal action has confidentiality requirements. The lawsuits were private legal actions with court ordered outcomes. The companies appointed to resolve the matter are supposed to be working with the defendant that lost the case to resolve. I am not in control although I have been involved in providing proper info about refunds and shipments. I am constantly on them to get out communications as is the court.

    14. Daniel Pierson on October 23

      Why are they supposed to be so Top-Secret?
      How about you give us an address, I'll just go get my refund from them.
      How about you give us a phone number?
      How about you give us an email address?
      No excuses huh?

    15. Alan Discount Creator on October 20

      No excuses Daniel. I am no longer in control of the process. I continue to press those that are to bring this to a final resolution for everyone. I am frustrated too. My apologies.

    16. Daniel Pierson on October 20

      Alan, when will I receive my refund from you?
      Nothing that you've said ever happens,
      do you have any new excuses for us?

    17. Daniel Pierson on October 13

      A tracking number for my refund would be great,
      but you don't seem too concerned about it

    18. Alan Discount Creator on October 12

      I am as frustrated as all of you. I copied this thread and sent it to everyone involved. Hoping they get to each of you soon. Thank you.

    19. Daniel Pierson on October 12

      Well Alan, nothing has changed, still. What you told us two weeks ago hasn't happened yet. They lied to you two weeks ago, again.
      Don't you wish people could just be honest?

    20. Alan Discount Creator on October 1

      Email

    21. Bruce Vollert on October 1

      Alan
      How are the "accountants" planning on contacting us? email? phone? or would it be by US postal service ?

    22. Alan Discount Creator on September 28, 2016

      I have been pushing and got an agreement yesterday for communication to everyone involved direct from the source. They have promised to reach out to everyone directly.

    23. Daniel Pierson on September 28, 2016

      Well Alan, nothing has happened yet, or still.
      You don't seem very concerned about it,
      you just keep blaming this on lawyers, accountants, new owners, etc.
      Nothing you've told us has ever become the truth.
      How many times have you told us the checks have been mailed?
      I believe I might not live long enough to see you make good on your debts.
      It'd be nice to hear some good news from you,
      instead of "I am just not in control of the process."

    24. Alan Discount Creator on September 10, 2016

      Bruce their were delays that I wasn't aware of. Please read recent comments. They are coming. I am just not in control of the process. My apologies.

    25. Bruce Vollert on September 10, 2016

      THIS WAS YOUR POST FROM 8/12/16 If things were sent what happened!!...."It was sent certified return receipt requested. I will get certified number for you from the accountants. If you are not home when it arrives they won't leave it. It requires a signature"
      STILL HOLDING OUT HOPE WILL YOU COME THROUGH ALTHOUGH ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD

    26. Alan Discount Creator on September 8, 2016

      I have asked them a number of times to reach out to all recipients (bikes and refunds) ASAP. I have been assured everyone will her directly from either the accountants or shipper respectively.

    27. Daniel Pierson on September 8, 2016

      Alan, have you asked the accountants when they are planning to mail the refund checks?

    28. Alan Discount Creator on September 3, 2016

      They have been out of my hands since the first time I told you. I was unaware of the process and bureaucracy around their distribution and had no idea it would take this long.

    29. Daniel Pierson on September 3, 2016

      Are you planning to continue telling us that the refunds were mailed many weeks ago and that we should just keep waiting for them to show up?

    30. Alan Discount Creator on September 3, 2016

      I would prefer it to get me out of the middle. But I asked and they said no. They are not set up to handle nor are they allowed to field a bunch of individual consumer contacts. They can only speak with the court appointed contacts. Confidentiality reasons since this is the result of a legal dispute.

    31. Daniel Pierson on September 3, 2016

      Would it be possible to provide the name of the accounting firm and contact info? Seems to me that would be the easy way to get the answers we need.

    32. Alan Discount Creator on September 2, 2016

      It is because of the legal complexities in the lawsuit we won to take back control. The prior owners are on the hook to financially resolve all issues per the court. And it has been ugly. So every step we take is burdened with excessive documentation and administrative requirements. Which means delays are greater costs to get simple things done. My apologies.

    33. Kim Smed on September 2, 2016

      Alan, I know you are not shipping these, but have you heard what the delay is? I have been in manufacturing for 25 years and never dealt with a bonded warehouse that takes more than a couple days for fully processing. Their money is in the quick turn around not storing stuff.

    34. Alan Discount Creator on August 25, 2016

      I don't have them and am not personally sending anything. As mentioned to Bruce the accountants who are sending them have been requested to send out the tracking info to each of u directly

    35. Daniel Pierson on August 25, 2016

      Where is the tracking info you said you would get for me 13 days ago?
      You can't provide that info because it doesn't exist?
      Go ahead and post my tracking number right here,
      so that everybody can begin to believe you.

    36. Alan Discount Creator on August 25, 2016

      I have asked them to send all tracking and shipping info to each recipient directly

    37. Bruce Vollert on August 25, 2016

      Aloha Alan
      I see that you claim that your accountants have sent out refunds on August 12th. If they were sent as certified return receipt requested I believe then the letter would go first class USPS. Although I am in the middle of the pacific ocean in Hawaii the letter should be here by now.
      When the Accontants sent the refund checks why didnt they send tracking info at the same time? Would it be possible to provide the name of the accounting firm and contact info? Seems to me that would be the ea
      sy way to get the answers we need.

    38. Daniel Pierson on August 25, 2016

      Alan, here's another reminder for you.
      You never mailed my refund to me,
      that is why you cannot provide any info.
      When are you going mail my refund?

    39. Alan Discount Creator on August 23, 2016

      I forgot to send a message to them to ask. Will message them now. Thanks for the reminder.

    40. Daniel Pierson on August 23, 2016

      Alan, on August 12th you said "I will get certified number for you from the accountants."
      That was eleven days ago.
      When are you going to make what you say become the truth?

    41. Daniel Pierson on August 18, 2016

      well Alan, there is still no refund from you at the Post Office. I didn't think there would be. It doesn't take this long for mail to get here. So, now it's time for you to provide me with the tracking number to prove what you are saying is the truth. Please...

    42. Alan Discount Creator on August 16, 2016

      The accountants said everything went out. Please give it another day or two and let me know

    43. Daniel Pierson on August 16, 2016

      well Alan, did you verify that my refund never was mailed to me yet?

    44. Daniel Pierson on August 12, 2016

      All of my mail gets delivered to the Post Office, not at my address

    45. Alan Discount Creator on August 12, 2016

      It was sent certified return receipt requested. I will get certified number for you from the accountants. If you are not home when it arrives they won't leave it. It requires a signature.

    46. Daniel Pierson on August 12, 2016

      well Alan, I still have NOT received my refund from you.
      And, I have NOT received a tracking number either.
      You do have a tracking number, don't you?

    47. Alan Discount Creator on August 9, 2016

      Sorry for the typo. It should say bonded carrier.

    48. Alan Discount Creator on August 9, 2016

      Yes we sent them to abounded carrier in bulk. They were handling shipping to each individual destination. You should hear from them shortly with delivery info and tracking. Thank you.

    49. Kim Smed on August 9, 2016

      Alan, any update on shipping? I haven't seen tracking and they were to have shipped last month.

    50. Alan Discount Creator on August 7, 2016

      They were mailed Give it until mid week and contact me if any issues. Thank u

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