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The Biblical Library elegantly designed & crafted for enjoyable reading, separated into volumes, and free of all numbers, notes, &c.
The Biblical Library elegantly designed & crafted for enjoyable reading, separated into volumes, and free of all numbers, notes, &c.
14,884 backers pledged $1,440,345 to help bring this project to life.

Stretch Goal: $1,000,000

Posted by Adam Lewis Greene (Creator)
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Everyone,

The funding for Bibliotheca has nearly doubled in two days.

With three days left, reaching one million is a real possibility. It's certainly a stretch, but that's why they call it a stretch goal!

If we get there:

  • I'll be able to add the Deuterocanonical Books (commonly called the Apocrypha) as a fifth volume, to be included with every set ordered. I don't have all the details worked out (whether it will fit in the wood slipcase, whether it will delivered at the same time as the other four or what color it will be). Since the Deuterocanonical Books were not released in the ASV, I will be using the translations from the English Revised Version, of which the ASV is the direct American revision. For those of you unfamiliar with the Deuterocanonical Books, there's a bit more information at the end of this update.
  • Also, if we hit the mill-mark, I'll be able to include a traditional book board slipcase with every full set. These would be covered in a nice paper or cloth material. I don't have more details on these either, but I assure you they'll be a nice addition.

Gratefully,

Adam

More information about the Deuterocanonical Books:

These are ancient Jewish texts that were written (mostly) in Greek. Therefore, they are not considered part of the Hebrew Bible (which makes up the Protestant Old Testament), and they mostly predate the New Testament. They are sometimes referred to as "intertestamental," but are more commonly called Deuterocanonical ("belonging to the second canon"). These texts are invaluable to our knowledge of this period of Jewish history and literature and in understanding the world in which the New Testament authors lived. And, like the rest, it's great reading. There are a wide variety of beliefs regarding this literature. Whatever your beliefs, I agree with Jerome: they deserve to be read.

Here's a list of the titles according to what's included in the English Revised Version:

Tobit, Judith, additions to the Book of Esther, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, The Epistle of Jeremiah, additions to the Book of Daniel (The Song of the Three Holy Children, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon), First Maccabees, Second Maccabees, First Esdras, The Prayer of Manasseh, and Second Esdras.

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    1. Jordan on

      I agree with Giff Ransom about making original artwork for the title page of each book.

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      Aaron on

      If based on the ERV, this volume will not contain 3 (and 4) Maccabees and Psalm 151, correct?

    3. Socrates on

      As a new backer who came in because of the deuterocanon stretch goal, the backlash against it is pretty startling. Let's put it in perspective: for the numerical majority of Christians around the world, the deuterocanon is as much a part of scripture as the Pentateuch. Even if you come from a Christian tradition that regards those books as apocryphal, I can't understand why you would be upset about their inclusion for those of us who do, actually getting to the point of talking about burning them.

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      Dexter Gonzalez on

      What is considered a full-set?

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      Shanna on

      Joshua, many thanks!

    6. Ro_man Fortuna on

      Come on, three more days. We can do this.

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      Giff Ransom on

      Adam, since it seems you will be shortly in need of another stretch goal, might I suggest one? In place of the stupid paragraph symbol on the title page of each book, you could put a circle with original artwork like you have on the christogram piece. I just think those are really slick, and I'd love to see what you'd come up with for each book. And hey - you've already got the artwork for the gospels finished! OK, so this would probably be totally infeasible with the demands on your time in the coming months, but it's fun to dream, isn't it?

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      Giff Ransom on

      On the main page, Adam has clarified that the fifth volume will indeed be optional, with a larger slipcase available for those who choose it.

    9. Joshua David Huizing on

      Shanna, Adam has already responded to these concerns below:

      "At some point after the campaign I will be sending out a "backer survey" by which I'll collect all the information I need from you, including your shipping address and any other specific information (for the embossers, etc.). I am not totally certain of this, but perhaps I could make the fifth volume optional and place slipcase orders accordingly. It would be fairly simple to have the cases made in two sizes."

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      Shanna on

      I believe stretch goals should enhance an existing project, not change it entirely. There's no controversy over a book board slipcase;)

      I've backed two slipcases. If the Deuteorcanonical book is added to the slipcase I'll reduce my pledge. While I agree it would be a good read, the four vol. set in the slipcase and any additions outside would be what I initially signed on for.

    11. Joshua David Huizing on

      Definitely on track to clear $1M, maybe even by tomorrow! Time to start thinking of another stretch goal!

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      eyeiaye on

      Also I need to add that you all are fantastic and it is an honor to back this project.

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      eyeiaye on

      Yes I am also for the Deuterocanonical Books and sleeve/wood case being able to house all 5 books. For those of us who backed the wood sleeve, given the 75 dollar up charge for the case, I hope that we have the option to allow us the oppertunity to house all five books in it.

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      Fr. Timothy Cremeens, PhD on

      I believe this is a worthwhile project and that is why I "invested" in the production. I am even more "sold" on the project now that you are including the Deuterocanonical books. The is the "complete" Bible as it was originally translated into the English language.

      Fr. Timothy Cremeens, PhD
      Interim Dean, Professor of Bible & Church History
      Grace Graduate School of Ministry (East Campus)
      Dudley, MA

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      Tony Walker on

      All this talk about a 5th volume... i just want a wooden slip case that i missed out on :(

    16. Matt Stetson on

      I was so excited when I first learned of this project that I was jumping up and down. Adam you have created a beautiful thing here and I didn't think the project could get any better, until you revealed the possibility of adding the Apocrypha. I'm smile from ear to ear for your success. Thank you for allowing God to work through you.

    17. Ronnie M on

      The struggle of what to make canon is nothing new. Even in Jesus' day, the Sadducees only accepted the Torah, the first five books of Moses, as canon. I think some have mistaken what the Deuterocanonical/Apocryphal books are. They are not Gnostic or any other sectarian literature. They have always been a part of Christian tradition just accepted at varying degrees of canon.

    18. Ng Jun Siang on

      I’d agree with making Vol 5 optional if the stretch goal is hit, if only so that Adam won’t have to go to all the effort to getting additional books printed and bound and shipped off where they won’t be appreciated. This can be done in the post-funding survey anyway.

      I’ve just upped my pledge in anticipation of this; $75 feels too cheap for what I’d be getting if this stretch goal is hit. I can always lower it down if we don’t hit the goal, but you can be sure I’m sending this around!

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      Giff Ransom on

      Timothy, I daresay the Apostle Paul and the others would be deeply saddened to find that any Christian hated the Deuterocanonical books enough to want to burn them. These books were well read and respected by the New Testament authors, even though they would not have regarded them with the same reverence and awe as the law and the prophets, since they were more recent and were not written during the age of the prophets or the exile. The books tell the story of the people of Israel, now returned to their homeland, struggling against the tyranny of the Greek pagan overlords. They include wisdom writing which ponder the theology of the logos that picks up where Proverbs leaves off and points forward to the opening of John's gospel. Christians have differed throughout history (and not particularly along Protestant-Catholic lines) as to just how much respect these writings should be given - whether they are to be held up alongside the rest of the Old Testament, or only as very helpful non-scriptural books. But to hate them - to want to destroy them - this is not a traditional Christian view.

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      Nathanael on

      I'm late commenting, but just want to add for the record: the protestant reformers, including Martin Luther and John Calvin, as well as their successors, ALL included the Apocrypha in their Bibles, even as they relativized their authority. The Apocrypha was only excluded by Bible Societies who figured they could get away with excluding it to save printing cost.

      So, Adam, including the Apocrypha would be very much in the spirit of ALL historical Christian traditions of scripture publishing--since you seem to be so inspired by those traditions, both in your respect for the written text and for the quality of its presentation. Love it or hate it, the Apocrypha is classic biblical litterature. That alone qualifies it for inclusion in this monumental edition. I would request you seriously consider the option whether you hit the stretch goal or not.

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      Tom Narow
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      @Daniel Rinehart, thank you for the links and I look forward to the hitting the stretch goal. To those that do not want the additional book, simply opt out as others have said. Great job Adam, what a fantastic Kickstarter project.

    22. Kristin Watson on

      Adam, thank you for the added 5th volume and book cover if you hit the mil goal. Even though I dont consider the added vol in the same light as the bible I would love to read it simply for the hisy context alone! It would be a lovely addition!

    23. c
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      Burning any book would be tragic! Frankly dismayed at some of the reactions concerning the possibility of a fifth volume here--as Adam said, he's considering making the fifth volume completely optional. If you don't like it, just opt out and leave the deuterocanon to those of us who enjoy it. (Personally, I could not imagine owning a bible without it!)

    24. Sabrina Nauman Peterson on

      Timothy, please don't ever burn so beautiful a book! would be tragic.

      also, read Adam's comment. It will be optional. No need to be so dramatic, just opt out of the 5th volume.

    25. Jordan Gons on

      I'm not for adding it in the slipcase. As many don't see it as canon (myself included), I feel this changes the scope for more broad appeal rather than sticking to what the textual care and scope of the project was as originally stated.

      I'd rather see you use profits to make this is sustainable edition rather than a one time backer event. Use the profits to be able to sell the in perpetuity.

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      Timothy Davies on

      I would not be interested in the Deuterocanonical Books. I would see them used as fire starter rather then leave them for reading. Please use the additional resources elsewhere. I'm serious, I don't want it.

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      Yves on

      Adam,
      Thanks for this generous stretch goal. I'd be happy to have the extra book. I didn't back the slipcase, so I can't comment on that, but I hope you consider offering the Deuterocanonical Books as an option to backers.
      Best Regards.

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      Daniel Rinehart on

      And congratulations, Adam, on coming up with such a beautiful idea and getting so many people on board with it!

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      Daniel Rinehart on

      I would think this would go without saying, but...will you print Esther with additions as a whole in the Apocrypha, or just print the additions? (Printing just the additions would be bordering on the incoherent, but that is apparently how it was printed in the Revised Version Apocrypha.)

    30. c
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      on

      Thanks for the comment Adam. I've seen other Kickstarters do something very similar on an even larger scale, so I think if you can make that work (if we hit that 1 mil mark!) then I imagine most people would be quite happy!

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      caroline on

      Adam, I cannot wait to read this. I love the extra volume. Thank you for making something so beautiful and thoughtful. Hope US presses can run on worthy projects like this again someday. Peace!

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      Steve Wright on

      I used to a Pastor in San Francisco and saw that you were from Santa Cruz. I've backed you at $201 and I'm sharing it often. I'm thankful for your heart and obedience.

    33. Steven Landau
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      on

      Adam...please read my message...I have a very quick question...
      Steven Landau

    34. Adam Lewis Greene 2-time creator on

      Everyone,

      Thanks for the feedback! There are some great ideas here. I will try to address some of these concerns before the campaign is through, but for now, here's what I'm thinking:

      At some point after the campaign I will be sending out a "backer survey" by which I'll collect all the information I need from you, including your shipping address and any other specific information (for the embossers, etc.). I am not totally certain of this, but perhaps I could make the fifth volume optional and place slipcase orders accordingly. It would be fairly simple to have the cases made in two sizes.
      Also, I really appreciate how respectful you all have been in sharing your thoughts on this with one another and with me. You are classy people.

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      Matt Nitzken on

      I can see the point of a lot of the comments. Since I didn't back the wooden cases, I'll only offer a comment for the traditional bookboard slipcase, but it probably wouldn't be that hard to just make it an option of getting a 4 or 5 book slipcase. Personally, if it does end up as 5 volumes, I'd like them all in the slipcase, but that's just my nature of keeping things together.

      Overall very interesting project and I am excited to be backing it! I have never actually read the whole Bible (probably less than 25% of it in reality) and this project seemed like a great way to not get lost in the numbering and indexes.

    36. Ronnie M on

      @Daniel R.- Thank you for posting those articles. I really want to see this campaign hit $1M now.

    37. Jerry Oates on

      Daniel R., these links you included are quite insightful. Thank you for posting them. I learned something new today.

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      Daniel Rinehart on

      I totally get where people are coming from with the slipcase worries. If you want "The Bible in a slipcase," you want the slipcase to be just the right size for what you think of as The Bible. But a lot of the comments...I mean..."Hey guys, if we make it to a million dollars, everyone gets an extra free book!" Who wouldn't want a free book? In a Catholic or Orthodox Bible, the apocryphal books are right in there with the other OT literature—history with history, wisdom with wisdom, Esther and Daniel translated from the Greek with no notice that some of what is being presented is not in the Hebrew text. The addition of a separate volume for the Apocrypha is pretty modest change to the reading experience. Bibliotheca is still very much a Protestant Bible.

      It's an interesting snapshot of what diverse opinions there are on what "the Bible" is, and the concerns people have about policing its limits.

      http://facultyblog.eternitybiblecollege.com/2012/03/why-i-read-the-apocrypha-and-why-you-should-too/

      http://www.authenticlight.org/2011/11/six-reasons-to-read-apocrypha.html

    39. Eric Klein on

      Definitely only want the original 4 volumes. I feel like adding the 5th makes this a whole different product that I did not order.

    40. Ronnie M on

      Congratulations on the success, Adam. I'm in for whatever you decide to do. I started out skeptical but I really like the choices you've made at every juncture and am completely behind you. Keep up the great work.

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      Omar Madrigal on

      I would love for all 5 volumes to fit into the slip cover. Otherwise, it wouldn't look as complete and would take away from the the asthetics.

    42. Jerry Oates on

      Count me as another who wants the wooden slipcase only for the original 4 books. So excited how this project has grown and thanks Adam for the opportunity for the stretch goal.

    43. David K on

      +1 for 4-volume slipcases
      +1 for Jerome: They're worth reading

    44. Taylor Poole
      Superbacker
      on

      I would want the wooden case to fit all 5 books if we hit 1M. I hope we hit it!

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      Travis Hemminger on

      I take it this would be included with the international copies as well?

    46. c
      Superbacker
      on

      Just chiming in to offer a little bit of opposition to many of the below comments: I would be rather disappointed if the slipcase did not have room for the deuterocanon. Of course, this is all hypothetical because 1 million is a heck of a stretch goal, but still. Hopefully some compromise can be reached that pleases everyone!

    47. Joshua David Huizing on

      Adam, that's a really cool idea--a choice of either another New Testament or the Apocryphal volume.

      I'm interested in having the Deuterocanonical books as a historical curiousity, but whatever happens, please don't resize any of the slipcases (solid walnut or otherwise).

      I'm another person that would consider altering my pledge (just down to $140 for two sets of books) if the cases include the fifth, so please let us know the plan.

      Thanks, Adam! So glad this is spreading everywhere!

    48. Kevin Perry on

      Wonderful project...happy to back. I agree with others to not resize the slipcase.

    49. Adam Sentz on

      As a multiple slipcase backer I agree with those who want to make sure that the Apocrypha isn't included in the slipcase. I'm planning on gifting two sets to people who I'm not sure would appreciate that inclusion. If that is the case I'd have to reconsider my backing level so it would be good to have confirmation either way before the project closes.

      Perhaps you could consider, if it's logistically feasible, modifying the stretch goal to add either the Apocrypha or an extra New Testament volume or one of the other bonus items already being produced for people that really don't want the Apocrypha volume.

    50. Bill Hobbs on

      Excellent news! Congratulations on the progress that has been made. As a Catholic Christian, I am very appreciative of the potential inclusion of the apocrypha which is considered by us to valid biblical material. Overall, this is such an impressive project!