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Tim seems strangely bitter about something that can't possibly be making his life worse. @Tim, if you like the game, and feel like you got your money's worth, that's all that matters. Who cares if other people get to enjoy it as well? If anything, it seems like we should want MORE people to have good experiences in gaming, not less.
Glad you opened up late backing. No reason not to. People like Tim just feel super entitled. You looking to resell your copy Tim?......that's the only reason to act so aggravated haha.... Mark you guys are doing great keep it up and ignore whiny babies like Tim. When you have this many backers in a project there is bound to be at least one whiny child in the bunch. Haha
I'm still confused as to why they're called deadlinse (sic).
@Mark, It's actually pretty excellent that you have opened up to late backers. The more interest the better, because ultimately the extra money and larger backer community will lead to greater resources for the game. IE: replacement parts, possible future expansions, rules revisions from player feedback, and more games from odd bird games. Keep up the good work!
I have absolutely nothing against having that window open for some late backers. In fact I love that you are doing this!
PS is it October yet? :-D
I see no problem with it, there have been plenty of occasions where I would have wished to jump on board late if I had the chance. It doesn't change the cost to me, what I'm getting or when I'm getting it, and it isn't undercutting the price I paid, so I have no issue with it.
Hi Tim, I see that you have posted here as well. : ) Just to be thorough, I'll repost my message here too: .........Hi Tim, I understand where you are coming from. I got feedback from different folks on this, and my advisors explained that there are lots of different ways to handle this. My intent was to give backers who truly missed the boat, a little extra time to jump on board. It is a small window, and if its any consolation, just a small number of people. Late backers (It's only been open a couple weeks) still represent early adopters that are willing to risk pledging money for a game pre-production. In my view, this does not harm my original backers, but empowers me more to deliver a quality product. I have an intense desire to please you and all backers. I am very grateful for your support. This is not a flood gate, but a limited opening of a door, so that dozens of folks who have emailed me pleading for me to give them a second chance can be part of the early adopter crowd.
@Tim, how exactly am I, as an original backer, being harmed by this decision? It's only a temporary discount.
@Tim, lolololollololol. MA-MORE CHEEZIE POOFS!
Isn't publishing a game a "money grab". This isn't a charity.
Dude relax. Publishers need to print so many games to get a deal from the supplier. Selling extras isn't holding anything up or a personal vendetta to screw anyone over
Mark, there is a reason they are called deadlinse. You are not doing this for altruistic reasons. You even state as much in your most recent post after opening the backer kit.
Pure money grab at great harm to your original backers. Thoroughly displeased!
I still have to compile the backerkit, as I'm still figuring out a bulk shipment agreement: could somebody confirm me that nothing locks down today?
Mark seems to have said so but maybe I misinterpreted.
Backerkit clarified something to me recently. Paypal charges are immediately charged. However, credit cards are not changed until 4/28. (The 2/14 deadline date was incorrect and has been removed)
I was charged by Backerkit immediately, is that unusual? I don't want to pay twice!
In my previous comment "changed" = "charged". Autocorrect FTW!
Sorry if this has been answered already, but what's the difference in the dates for the Backerkit? Looks like the deadline mentioned is 2/14, but then we have the opportunity to make changes until 4/28? When will we actually be changed and our orders "locked in"? On or around 4/28?
@Kris- it should be an acordian fold. It maintains its width, but folds back and fourth against the length.
I have a question, and I may have missed it, but how does the board fold?
ah, i see that in the notes.. my bad
@Mikael - squirrels is included with friend, no need to add it in, so subtract 10.00 (unless you want the squirrel box)
So, I made this spreadsheet to help me make my decision. I wanted to make sure this information was correct. If so, perhaps it may help others make the decision that is best for them. Let me know if there is something I've gotten wrong.
@Brian.. Yup. the thought crossed my mind. Working as fast as I can. : )
@Mark, will you have the game up on Tabletopia before sending final rules to the printer --- figure if there are lead times for certain things, having a month or so of public play testing couldn't hurt, before locking down the printed rules, assuming it didn't extend the delivery date.
@Buddy Christ: Thank you for saying that. I felt that the Big Box folks deserved foil. I hope you like. As for late backers. I've received so many (legitimate) emails from folks who JUST missed the campaign (out of the country, missed by 1 week, etc.) that I wanted to create a LIMITED window for them. Doing this helps me in so many ways. Lower production costs, extra funds to fund a solo expansion. I get your point though, but keep in mind that late backers are STILL early adopters, taking a risk like the rest of you on an game not yet released. Rest assured, I'll be switching over to MSRP pricing soon.
@Chris Warr, @Spider Emnine, @James Short: Visit this link and click on "Squirrel Card.pdf": https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zkedopqk54dcdvd/AAAI-kLVAZYfH9KMpv6gi0dTa…
@Mark "the spot varnish on all boxes stretch goal was not reached. However, I did conceded and added foil to the “Big Box”"
Thank you for some concession. I admit to being a little annoyed when us backers put up the money up front to ensure a project funds and hits stretch goals - only to have 'Late Backer' options which offer the SGs and all at the same price. If some of them had backed with the rest of us we would presumably have hit that next stretch goal. Not a fan of encouraging this type of backing. Just saying.
Congrats on the project
@Chris @Spider @Brian : I found this old comment from Mark that explains the rules for Squirrels:
Essentially, at the start of the game and at the dawn of each new epoch during the replenishment phase, goods get added to N, S, E, and Western most locations of each region. If a wood is added, a conifer tree gets placed there. During subsequent epochs, you add one squirrel to every tree that has been placed. In this way, squirrels can add up, providing a randomly occurring food source on the map. It's subtle, simple, and a bit silly cuz, who would actually eat an innocent squirrel? ; )
@Nico Claeys if I'm not mistaken Gloomhaven contracted their shipping prices about two years ago. Unfortunately in meantime prices for shipping went way up :( so that's why there is such a low price for Gloomhaven shipping.
Just filled out the backer survey and saw that the shipping rates did go up a little more for Europe (21$). When I compare to, for example, another kickstarter I backed a while ago (Gloomhaven) and notice that for shipping that box of approx. 10kg, I needed to pay 10$. I think for future projects it would be wise to extend your search for a better deal, cause apparently it is possible...
Exactly. "Multiplying food source" implies new rules.
I remember seeing something about how the squirrels (via the trees), become some sort of additional source of food.
Feudum: Squirrels & Conifers is a beautiful "mini-expansion" featuring 50 tasty squirrels and 6 wooden conifer trees that bring the board's topography to life! This expansion replaces the green food cubes with pink ones and creates a multiplying food source on the map. The expansion also enhances accessibility for the majority of color blind players. Oh, and it’s FREE to all backers.
@Chris Warr - I may be wrong, but I think it's just decoration for the game board and alternate colored cubes for food to assist those who are colorblind.
Do we have any rules for Squirrels & Conifers yet?
One thing I didn't quite get... Are you implying that there'll be no print and play, but in March you'll lend the files to Tabletopia? ;) :P
@Joe Walker: yes, you may change pledge levels too! Should be easy to switch to the Big Box.
@Chris Warr. Correct. No print and play planned. However, in early March all files will be handed over to Tabletopia so that the game may be played online there!
@Joe Walker, You should be able to go back into the pledge manager and adjust your rewards. I am not sure if you can change pledge levels. Maybe someone else knows that answer.
Being the mostly unobservant type, I didn't know there was a Big Box version available until Mark's message in my inbox this morning. Can someone guide me through changing my pledge to the Big Box version?
So no Print & Play?
By the way, the last update kind of implies that Backerkit doesn't take payment immediately, but I was charged straight away. Is this normal? Just making sure I won't be charged again in April! :-)
@Chris Warr and @ Alessandro Ruocco. Contract signed for Tabletopia, so it is happening. My artist is finalizing art before we transfer all final files to Tabletopia, so it will take a little longer than we anticipated. Files sent in March. We just want to make sure all files are...... perfect! : )
@palmi8 I added them. That sort of stuff makes me happy.
I tried installing Tabletopia, it wouldn't even start up :-(