by Scott Glancy
The Crowe thing is weird he pulls out for some vague reason and demands that his work isn't used and doesn't return the calls and e-mails of someone who he's worked with and known well for years? Does he know something we don't?
I'm disappointed that John Crowe is leaving the project so late into the day but will stick with it as I have no doubt in your honesty and valour. I've settled for a long wait
I'm sad to hear that John is leaving, but appreciate that you're giving us the heads up and that Chaosium is giving you the time to fix the problem. I'd advise against converting and focus on getting the book out, especially given how easy it is for people to convert to 7th Ed anyways.
My vote would have to go to The Wounded, Garden of the Medusa, and Shadows of Leuven.
Don’t convert. Otherwise you’ll be explaining to us this time next year how the conversion took 6 months longer than you thought.
I still use the 6th ed rules so opting to convert to a rule set I don’t own going to push me towards refunding.
Two things I would like from you: monthly updates, even if you have nothing new I want you to admit that to the backers.
And a list of all the scenarios that are still in the book.
I want a total refund.
Sorry to head of John’s departure, but glad up learn Hans is attached - his work is excellent. My vote is for Leuven, Wounded and Medusa. Let’s hope for smooth sailing from here on.
Sorry to hear of the added complications, but I'm glad Chaosium is understanding. I vote for Leuven, Plague, and Medusa.
I’ll vote for Plague and under the gun. 7th edition would be good but isn’t worth pushing yourself for as converting can be done at the table as well.
Sorry to hear Mr. Crowe is no longer involved. I like the sound of all the scenarios, but am leaning towards The Wounded, Plague, and Under the Gun. I prefer you keep the project 6th edition. Thanks!
My picks are: Shadows, Plague, and dealer's choice for the third
I have no preference over rules but urge you to go with what you have since it's easy enough to convert.
Preferences from this end
Scenarios: Plague, The Wounded, dealer's choice for the third
Rules: Definitely would prefer 7th Edition
Ah nightmare! That's very sad to hear about John, I hope the medical crisis can be solved.
All of the other five scenarios sound excellent, but I would definitely like to see Garden of the Medusa.
Happy to provide proof-reading and nit picking skills, just let me know how I can help and send over some manuscripts :)
Plague, Garden of the Medusa, and Shadows of Leuven all sound fantastic! Thanks for all your work on this.
My preference, in order of most to least, would be:
The Wounded, Shadows of Leuven, Under the Gun, The Plague, Garden of the Medusa
Sorry to hear about all the troubles with this project. From the scenarios I would prefer:
Garden of the Medusa
Under the Gun
As for conversion, I don't think it's necessary given how easy it is to do on the fly.
From the new scenarios, I prefer:
Shadows of Leuven
Under the Gun
Garden of the Medusa
With that said I am looking forward for this project, and with best of hopes.
My picks would be;
Under the Gun
Garden of Medusa
As for edition, I would rather a prioritisation of finishing the project. Converting to 7 on the fly aren't hard, but re-writing everything just doesn't seem like a priority to me.
My top three picks would be:
Garden of Medusa,
but I'm happy with any that you pick. Mildly, I would prefer them to be 7th edition, but I really don't care since I use both 6th and 7th and converting back and forth is childishly simple. Glad to hear that Chaosium extended your license. Now get this product done; it's already taken more time than the actual war did to fight (we're only 6 days from Armistice Day).
That's a shame that happened. But Shadows of Leuven was a really good RPPR Scenario as was The Wounded. But it is a very hard choice to pick from the because they all sound great. Though the one you did with RPPR in Russia with the armored train would also be good
An epic journey of fire for your memoirs Mr. Glancy! 7th ed is cool (been running it since the PDF dropped way back when) but as has been pointed out, focusing time on the completion would be time better sent. I convert 6->7 on the fly, so no worries. As for the scenarios, I like the sounds of Shadows of Leuven, Plague and Garden of the Medusa, but would take whichever you feel is best polished.
Sorry John has dropped out, he was a selling point for me, but I have no don't you'll carry the project across the goal line for the win.
Conversion takes time better spent on completion. Players are split on edition, large numbers will need to convert either way, conversion is time consuming but not hard, considering that what you lack is time, it makes sense to continue without conversion.
My scenario vote:
Shadows of Leuven
Under the Gun
Congratulations on the extension. It is sad news to hear of further trouble in the background. Here is hoping the final stretch is free of stress for all concerned.
No need to invest work and time on doing conversion to 7th edition.
Interested in seeing these scenarios
Gardens of medusa
Personally I don’t care for the 7e rules and find “back conversion” irritating, like fine grit in the gears of an elegant machine.
All of the scenarios sound fascinating, but if I had to pick three: Leuven, Wounded, Plague.
Thanks for your continued honesty and transparency Scott.
My preferences would be any scenarios that are nearest to completion; no preference on the 6e/7e rules(if someone can help speed things up and convert to 7e, I guess?); can and will help with anything you need to finish this project.
I’d be most happy if the 7th Edition conversion went ahead, I’m a big fan of the latest Ed.
If your thinking of selling the PDF beyond the fulfilment of the Kickstarter you’ll very likely need to do it anyway.
Good luck with the rest of the development!
Thanks for the update and explanation - I think given the circumstances, the extension from Chaosium is more than fair, and as a backer I'm certainly happy with the new date. Tiny proto-gamer in my life means nothing's hitting the table for several months still, and my backlog is nuts anyway.
I'd like to see this moved to 7th edition too; it's the "defacto" edition for me now, and would otherwise be doing the conversion myself before playing. However, reading other comments, perhaps it would be best to stick to 6th edition for the release, and then if you are feeling generous at the end of it all, perhaps a 7th edition conversion guide PDF could be offered for free - I dare say other experienced CoC backers would be keen to assist with this when the time comes (or if no-one steps up, maybe just drop it).
As for scenario choice, they all seem very interesting - I'd rather let you, with play-testing and knowledge, pick the three you think suit the compendium best, rather than let my pure guesswork about what might be better influence the choice.
I'd prefer that no more time/money was spent writing and commissioning art for the outlined scenarios, or at least preferenced according to ease of completion.
It seems like this book is already a millstone around your neck, a reduction in scope rather than expanded promises might be just what you need.
Five polished scenarios is still pretty good for a scenario book.
Hi, conversion to 7th edition would be great, and I'll put my hand up to help out with that, as well as do some proof reading for you.
As far as the scenarios go, my preferences would be Shadows of Leuven, Plague, and Under the Gun.
That's great news about the extension! And I for one would love to see a conversion to CoC 7th ed rules. As for the scenarios, they all sound great, though The Wounded sounds the most interesting to me.
Thanks for all your efforts Scott, and sorry that the project has spawned Horrors of its own. I still look forwards to it, and have no shortage of things to play in the meantime.
I am enjoying 7th edition these days, and think it's better to go forwards, even when talking about a war which finished 100 years ago next week. But the content is the main thing so, as with the scenarios, support you on what you think best suits the book. Carry on.
Shadows of Leuven and The Wounded for sure. After that it gets hard. Of the last 3, I'd rank them in this order: Under the Gun, Garden of Medusa, The Plague.
Still available to help, though will be bogged down with a project-in-progress for the next couple of months. (I can still multitask, but it will be a bit slower.) FWIW, I've done a fair bit of work converting Invcitus material to 7th edition.
The Wounded, Plague and Garden of Medusa would be my pick but very happy to go with whatever is easiest for you to complete.
I have a preference for 7th and also think it would help with post KS sales but.... it's really easy for folks to convert in play so I wouldn't if it's a major drafting effort or you can't find help to do it.
Thanks for the openness and good luck!
I'd like Plague, Garden of Medusa and Under the Gun. Having played 7th Ed, I find it difficult to go back to earlier editions so I'd prefer that. Plus it would help the product sell to others post-KSer delivery if it uses the current rules.
Glad to see the license and your effort to get it. Very sorry for Crowe.
Garden of the medusa
Shadows of Leuven
I'm not a fan of the 7th Edition of CoC, so would prefer that you stick with what you have. Folks who want to use the new ruleset can make the conversions - it's not difficult.
My pick of the scenarios are:
Shadows of Leuven
Under the Gun
also, happy to lend a hand with proof reading.
How about publishing whatever you have now, and then publishing the other 3 as you complete them.
Of the options, I like the premise of Wounded, Plague and Medusa best.
thanks, and hope all works out for John as well as they could.
Always happy to hear that the project is moving forward, even when hiccups like this occur. My preferences for new scenarios are Plague, Under the Gun, and The Wounded. I think that, in the interest of saving time, not converting to 7th edition is preferable, but I don't have a substantive objection to that system mechanically.
Let's hope John will get better soon and that his scenarios appear later.
Keep up the good work Scott. For the 3 scenarios, my preferences are:
- Shadows of Leuven
- Under the Gun
Count me in for proofreading.
Hi Scott, I'm sorry to hear that John left the project, as he's a very talented writer. However I'm still on board and would like to see this project happen!
My choices for replacement adventures: Shadows of Leuven, Under the gun, the Wonded.
If you need any help with proofreading, fact-checking and translation from/to French for some adventures, I'm your man as well, and I volunteer for proofreading in general (I do have professional experience with that).
Last: I would welcome upgrading the adventures to the 7th edition, and I can help with that if you need some.
1) My preference for the scenarios would be the ones that are closest to being ready - they all sound good.
2) I don't care if you convert to 7th.
3) Happy to lend a hand with proofreading.
I think all five of the proposed scenarios sound great, but I'm most interested in Plague, Under the Gun, and Garden of the Medusa! I have no preference either way for the rule set.
Thanks for the update and I continue to look forward to seeing the finished product!
I prefer the edition rules as well, if time allows it. As been said, the scenarios most complete arethe ones i like you to work on. Rather one less scenario than no book at all.
I'd rather get the 5 scenarios that Crowe is not involved in, if that's going to mean that the final product is available sooner. Then the 3-5 replacement scenarios as PDF follow-ups at a later time.
I'm a fan of Vortisch's work, and it would be great to see his material included - sooner, if it doesn't take much time to integrate; or later as a PDF release, if it's going to delay the Kickstarter by months.
I'm not interested in a 7E version of Horrors of War, preferring either 6E or Delta Green: the Rpg rules. If this Kickstarter goes that direction, then it might convince me to ask for a refund and bail.
I would prefer 7th edition rules, mildly.
As for which scenarios... whichever you feel are the best fleshed out. That's my preference.
If you don't convert to 7E rules, some people will have to do that on their own. If you do convert to 7E rules, some people will have to convert back on their own. Plus, that will take time. I say don't spend time on that.
I'm sorry to hear about Mr. Crowe's crisis and hope he gets through it. I would prefer you to choose 3 scenarios that are closest to being finished. 7th edition is nice but not a big deal.
I am most interested in The Wounded, Gardens of Medusa, and Shadows of Leuven, but would love to see all of them at some point.
I am disappointed in hearing about Crowe's departure, but also heartened by the license extension from Chaosium.
I have a mild preference for 7th edition rules, but it is not at all critical.
Finally, if you are still in need of proof-reading, I am happy to contribute to that effort.
Poor John. Looks like this project has a curse on it.... You haven't been opening any mummies tombs have you? Good luck finding some luck!👍