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Hi ORA, interested to hear you can produce Graphene diaphragm/cone up to 6" (Magico from USA also using Graphene material for Midrange driver, I'm not sure it's real deal or not), I'm using Fullranger driver from MarkAudio MAOP 7, which is very interesting MAOP (Micro Arc Oxidation Process) processing on cone to bring out a higher limit of fullranger with Material Science, and I think their R&D mission is quite close your team research, I hope to see Graphene on high Performance Fullranger in near Future, their have a good manufacturing in China so may work with your team on Speaker Production!
@Kian, I believe what happens is the Sony MDR1'a aren't that amazing sounding to begin with but when you turn them on, a build in DAC within the headphones equalizes the sound to make it more even. As for source I use a ESS9118C or I use the 9228 (i think) that is in the AP200, so I believe the source should be of good quality.
I just recently moved, who should I contact to update the shipping address? @ORA team
@ ORA team, Thank you so much for all the hard work so far! Keep the updates rolling and Im sure many of us here in the comments section appreciate your timely updates as well as replying to all our comments. This most recent batch has been extremely informative. Keep up the excellent work! Can't wait for you guys to ship these out to us (:
Indeed you did. For the other comment, it seems a bit confusing. If you use it cabled, thus without power, you should rely on the dac and amp from the source, which is alot better if you use any kind hifi gear, than the built in amp/dac in the headphones. If you use a worse dac/amp source, yes it should sound worse.
Ok, nevermind I answered my last question haha
OH AND ALSO, the CSR8675 seems to be capable of aptx HD, does the ORA support aptx HD? IIRC it was stated that the ORA would have aptx but not sure if you guys mentioned it would have HD
Do the headphones need to be charged to sound good? I have a pair of Sony MDR1a's and when the headphone is turned off they sound terrible because I'm guessing the signal isn't passing through a preamp/dac built into the headphones. Can the ORA function without battery and still sound as good as with battery?
Even with the abscence in chat, the punctual updates eases concerns more than enough. Thanks for a great project so far!
@All The Awesome People
Greetings our dearest backers! It has been a while since I’ve posted here and I apologize. I hope all the progress we have made with manufacturing GrapheneQ and with our electronics design at least helps to explain my absence. I’ve done my best to get to everyone’s comments. Thank you all for visiting our campaign and letting us know what you think, we are very happy to see all the great conversations over here.
We are proud of our progress and we truly believe you will be impressed with your headphones when you receive them. Thank you for believing in us. Keep the comments coming. Cheers!
@Jeremiah Curvers, @Kian Kirchhof, @Will Chan, @Cheung Hon Wah, @Carlos-David, @Harish Anandhajothi, @BMethods, @erick velez, @Gabriel Kao, @Frank Seeling, @Brian Phillips, @Enrrique Ares, @Gogomonster
. For everyone interested our timeline, we are on-track to start shipping the headphones in August. We did have to delay our original target date of March in part because the campaign has been far more successful than we anticipated and we had to expand the scope of our manufacturing. The delay has allowed us to make improvements to the headphone design and to our core GrapheneQ technology. We believe the Ora GQ headphones will be even better than our original prototypes. With technology-based campaigns like this, the biggest risk is successfully implementing the new tech. For our GQ headphones, the rest is just making a very nice pair of headphones using standard technologies that are already tested and used in other commercially available high-end headphone products. We have recently begun mass-production of our GrapheneQ membrane technology and we are more confident than ever that we will have a great product ready in August. Thank you all for your support!
@Scott Muhlbaier, @JJ, @Teye, @Olivier Pô, @Michael, @Chris Dowling , @Kian Kirchhof, @Erick JA , @Enrrique Ares, @Alexander Kazachkov
RE: Chipset, ANC, and “All-Black”
For you techies, we are using the Qualcomm 8675 (https://www.qualcomm.com/products/csr8675). We are proud to be using it as it is very highly regarded and found in many excellent products from other companies like PSB, B&O, etc. This chip manages the Bluetooth, D/A conversion, microphone, touch-controls, and more. The 8675 does offer ANC but implementing it is not just a matter of turning this feature on. ANC requires careful tuning of several additional microphones that inform the cancellation system. ANC is not hard to do, but it is hard to do well. It would take a significant amount of time and resources to implement it properly which is why we set the ANC stretch goal so high. Also, I personally dislike ANC and was reluctant to put it on the GQ headphones. I feel it has a negative impact on overall sound quality and that good passive isolation is a better solution to ambient noise. It is certainly useful at times, like on airplanes, but I’d rater not have it for serious listening. As for our other stretch goal… All-Black Ora GQs, we have already begun working on the logistics of providing both colours. We are very close to the $1M mark so we are making plans to be able to produce both wood and all-black. I think both colours look great!
@Travis Jensen , @A.S. Dube , @Kian Kirchhof, @Wessel Brussen, @Zageron, @Nick Adamany
Ossic X !!
What!? I did not see that one coming. Ossic really managed to build brand recognition as the “Oculus of sound” even though they hadn’t shipped. I was shocked that they went under but it is true that they were working with several different new technologies and integrating them all into one new device. Every new technology that needs developing adds risk to products, especially ones on tight budgets and timelines. Still, there might be more to the story since Ossic also received a fair amount of investment - they should have had some decent resources. Events like this with Ossic, or last summer with Kanoa, make people nervous - and for good reason. I want to assure folks that Ora is still on track and on budget. Production of our new technology -GrapheneQ - is already underway and going great. We have also finalized the electronics design and the prototype circuit boards are working seamlessly. We have managed to solve the difficult problems, all that is left is to make sure that the headset is of high-quality with good acoustics and a comfortable fit. We believe the headset is the least risky part of the equation since the companies we are working with already make high-quality headphones for other well-known brands. They are experienced and there is no risky new tech in the headset itself. We run a tight ship and are very confident that our backers will be impressed with their Ora GQ headphones. Please don’t fret, we got you… Thanks for believing in us!
The chip we are using for our headphones does have DSP such as EQ and it would be possible to develop software that would allow user access to additional features. However, we are a really hardware focused company and we do not currently have any plans to develop anything like that ourselves. Still, you never know…
I’m actually Dr. Gaskell, I teach in the Music Research Dept. at McGill. Dr. Szkopek might be able to answer your electron mobility questions but, unfortunately, that’s a bit outside my area of expertise :) I know much more about mechanical properties. You are correct that the cross linking agents are optimized to improve the mechanical properties of the material and promote strong inter-layer bonding between Graphene flakes. We are less concerned with electrical performance and, actually, our material is not electrically conductive unless we do a significant amount of post-processing. We are also excited for larger drivers… We are now capable of making up to ~6” speakers!! Thanks for backing!
@Matthew Manzi , @Michael, @Andrew Kochn
We are using a standard size Lithium polymer battery. The typical life-span for LiPo is ~500 cycles, so when the battery needs to be replaced depends on how frequently it gets discharged and charged. We want the Ora GQ headphones to last a lifetime, or at least until we listen to music through chips implanted in our brains. The battery has been socketed so it can be replaced. Ora will do its best to provide replacement batteries but even if we are not able to in the future, replacement batteries can be sourced through other online suppliers. In order to replace the battery, the headphones will need to be disassembled. This can be done by a skilled user since the headphones are made with screws and clasps so that the ear-cups can easily be disassembled and reassembled. Cheers!
Thanks for the great question! With the improvements we have made to our GrapheneQ material and the optimization we have done between the GrapheneQ drivers and the acoustics of the headset, the Ora GQ headphones are sounding even more detailed with much more deep bass than we had in our prototypes. We are still adjusting things a bit with different acoustic materials. We will probably continue to make some small adjustments even after we get the first production prototypes. I find the changes have made the GQs more enveloping and have made the low end more satisfying.
Finalising everything and then production. I'd be happy if i saw them before september
So what your saying from the new update is that I'll have my headphones by june/july?
Thank you Ora, punctual as usual. One of the very best project managements so far, one thing though, what's the next step for june?
Waiting for the may update!
Ossic X was a joke from the get go, not sure why you guys are comparing it with this.
They overshot and tried to do too much without nailing down the core, and their stretch goals ended up killing them.
Ora's stretch goals by comparison are pretty small and easily attained.
Also the people asking for updates is really funny since they always post at the very end/beginning of the month.
Also there are no assurances on Kickstarter, by design. You didn't preorder a product, you donated in exchange for a reward on success. :P
I'm not worried though, they feel comfortable.
I was at the wine and cheese for ORA and let me tell you these guys know what they are doing. There is no need to worry, the rust prototype sounded pretty amazing and we’ve already seen the tech. Give them some space and they’ll deliver.
Im not an ossic x backer, but haven't this been managed better? I have had some concerns upon reading the ossic news
Many of us backed the failed Ossic X project and have lost lots of money. Can we get some assurances from ORA that we will actually get delivery of their product?
With Ossic X headphones going under I'm starting to get nervous about this Kickstarter also turning into vaporware. I hope I'm just being paranoid and it doesn't happen.
They also said on indiegogo they would send out surveys to update shipping before they ship. Pretty standard for kickstarters.
Is there any chance to update shipping?
For those wondering about the battery they did answer 14 days ago on indegogo that they would be easily for the user to change and that it’s a standard rechargeable battery so it should be easy to find replacements.
Not really that long ago they updated. But i can tell you they have made their first production of GQ membranes according to a 'recent' photo.
Bro's... Any updates???
No, they mentioned it already, this would require additional wiring and a whole redesign of the headphones and could lead to a worse speaker experience.
Can there be an ANC option for a little bit of extra cost?
Can't answer the second question but PSA for everyone who doesn't work with PCB's the attachment is plenty strong enough even though it looks minimal, trust me there will be no worries with that piece
Looking at the last update, I'm worried about two things:
1. How strong is the usb-c mount
2. How much of the life of the batteries and can they be replaced?
Any updates on the timeline?
Hey Gabriel, that was a pre production prototype that didn't have a functional touch control and didn't have an internal amplifier. So we demoed it after connecting to an external one. So now that we only 3 months away, mass production shud be anytime soon and they shud have had full working prototype by now. Anyways it's for this that i see the new schedule. Just saying we will deliver in Aug is different from saying when mass production starts, Where they are now etc. If u remember last time, till mid Jan they said March delivery is possible and then we had this delay.
@Harish Didnt they have a meet and greet where you could demo their prototypes?
LOL this is one of those projects I backed awhile ago and just forgot about cause it was taking so long. But I really diddnt mind cause its a new technology. Now its any day now and i dont know what to expect
We are in their usual update time, so should come any day. I am also hoping for more details as their last one wasn't really an update
Would really appreciate some progress updates. Feels like forever since I funded this.
Just 3 months left and we still haven't seen a fully functional prototype (with amplifier and working touch control). I hope in this month update you would share the exact state of the project with more information and real pictures
These headphones gets a few mentions on hiby r3 campaign. Im personally also looking forward to the pairing
Any update on how the headphones sound now that improvements have been made to the driver and design.
They will be shipping in August 2018.
They announced this delay in a previous update.
Not sure if this was answered but will the Bluetooth support apple’s AAC.
I am looking back to the back, shipping fee CA 39..... If they ship the product from China which is my homeland....may only cost CA 3.....suddenly feel losing money...
@Carlos You can find the answer in the update from January