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The Solartab is amazing!
Not like the crap these guys tried to ship me..,
I did refuse to receive...
And I would like my money back, but I do know they will no refund me...
Get the solartab! Amazing product and not a scam like these jackasses.
Well, i did back another solar kickstarter...
It will be shipped soon.
I'm hoping it's what was promised, what did not happen with the magma...
Shame on you guys for doing us like you've done. Shame.
What now? Still no panel
You all didn't deliver what you promised! I want my money back. "Reward > Creator accountability
Yeah they sure got away with ESTAFA. Didn't get mine. I'll be wary of Kickstarter from now on and try other crowdfunding sites instead.
Well I'd given up hope on this kickstarter then out of the blue a package arrives from Duniah. The package contained a solar panel with two handles, what appears to be a battery pack with a solar panel built in and a cable with a USB at one end and some sort of power plug at the other end. Nothing resembling what was promised to be delivered. Sigh.
There won't be any news. They will not respond because they know they go away with it.
what they sent me doesn't even work. This is horrible. I love how KS added the be respectful and considerate when Magma and KS are both laughing all the way to the bank with our money.
No news from scammers?
Any news in lawsuits?
I just want them to pay..
Since I'm not getting my magma...
Anyone that sues them, and get them to pay... Hope for some jail time also, can keep all the money in my opinion...
Nothing received either
Nothing received, lost cause. When backing projects now choose the $1 option more often. If the project succeeds the $1 group typically get an offer from the creators which closely matches the initial KS pledges.
Did anyone else receive an email from Muaz Rabah email@example.com via gmail.com regarding the package being returned and asking to confirm your mailing address but then can't actually email them back because the domain doesn't exist anymore? Ridiculous.
For kickstarter moderators:
Before punishing backers that were ripped-off, check the projects and try to help them, otherwise you'll loose all backers to several other crowdfunding websites.
905 New Gulf Rd.
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010
From the package they sent me and I did not accept it.
Has anyone an address for these people so a small claims case can be filed. I live in Michigan so I should be good
I wonder if they could be sued in small claims court? Maybe a recent law school graduate would represent each of us. All he/she would have to do is just change the name and address of the person filing the suit.
I never even got any crap!!!! Why is nothing being done ?!
I do not want the crap you sent!
I want my money back!!!
Just sent the package back
I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!
yea I would love my $158 back as well .... but, with this group of cheats it wont happen
I still want my money back!!!
Why am I surprised that the website is no more. Domain has expired.
I still find it unbelievably stupid for them to impact their professional careers for so little money. $28,000 less expenses divided by three
Time to contact our state attorney generals!
Hi there, I received ur product but there is no instructions on what to do with it and also I didn't have any cables with it... Where can I get the cables for it?
So my amazingly POS charger has been sitting in the sun all day and will still not hold a flipping charge. I want my money back
If I decide to use Kickstarter again, I am adapting a more xenophobic approach to my support. I have already put their countries of origin that they so proudly advertised on my no no list. Obviously, they do not have the same beliefs in Honor or Honesty as I have so I blame that on their upbringing.
I am going to lean only towards local support if possible. This way I can meet these people face to face. Also, since I will most likely know people that know them, there is a better chance of success.
I also will not do business with anyone from Chicago... just read the news about that pit.. if they can get a job there.... and a certain liar in high office came from there...
I will only support projects that deliver under 90 days.
Since I am going through my Amazon CC, I will post a complaint at 89 days, for non delivery, regardless of what a campaign says. This way I have the ability to get a refund. Generally after 90 -100 days you are SOL.
You can see that I have backed a number of various campaigns, This is the first $100 rip off. There is another tech one for $39, I have not received anything and it is looking like a scam too. One other one for $100, I certainly hope this is not a scam. He has not delivered in over 6 months (cancer treatment) but now has another campaign elsewhere going. He being a minister I hope this comes through.
For tech projects, I think I am going to stay away from the more high tech ones... More of a chance for failure and being a rip off....
Nice way to ruin it for others....
Kickstarter has to change of policy for these kinds of projects. They may have to start demanding some kind of prototype before these projects can go online.
Kickstarter is not going to do anything for us. Right now, they have to look after themselves. The moment Kickstarter started posting generic legal like responses here, that in and of itself is their response about this.
Honestly, I supported many projects in the past. And so far, they all gone very well. I just hope that KS is more responsive about what they're doing to make sure this doesn't happen again. This is a great opportunity for KS to engage us and trying to find some kind of process to prevent this from happening again and what can be done if it does happen again.
KS won't engage us or help us or get back to us about what they might find. They'll let this pass and hope it goes away and be forgotten. It's how companies work today.
If however, the creators choose to fulfill their promises or issue full refunds to everybody then this would not be necessary.
@Kickstarter, I hope this is within the term of use/guidelines. I have tried to keep things brief and accurate. I would prefer a civil resolution and hope the creators do too.
We will need the personal contact information to file legal motions such as breach of contract,... and criminal motions such as mail fraud, wire fraud, internet fraud,... most of which are felonies.
Publicly available information can be found here: http://paste2.org/v8InpYhz
My kickstarter emails here: http://paste2.org/paVFs9pN
Lets show them we mean business.
Let show Kickstarter that they cannot turn a blind eye to corruption without implicating themselves.
Hi everybody, here is my saga:
Regarding abusive comments posted on a Kickstarter project
Apr 07 15:21
We're writing because we noticed you posting abusive comments on a project - specifically, comments including personal information of project creators. This kind of activity is against our Guidelines (http://www.kickstarter.com/help/community) and it is not permitted. We take our guidelines very seriously; please take a minute to read through them.
We understand the necessity of an open discourse between backers and creators. If you've had experiences that have led you to distrust this creator, it's fine to voice those opinions as longs as you do it in a manner compliant with our community guidelines.
All information posted are from links provided by project members, they have disregarded the Kickstart rules and have no intention of delivery of product or refund. Why doesn't KS address this, as it damages the reputation of KS as a whole? Instead you censor backers who are trying to find legal ways to deal with KS fraud.
April 08, 2014 22:22
While I understand that this is a heated situation on all sides, posting personal/private information about a creator is strictly against our Guidelines, and can merit permanent restrictions being placed on an account.
If you agree to abide by our terms moving forward, I can remove these now-temporary restrictions, but further violations could result in stronger action. Let me know.
April 09, 2014 11:00
I have always been willing to abide by the terms of Kickstarter, however I need Kickstarter to acknowledge that if the project creators post private personal information on a public forum, that information is no longer private and therefore can be reposted. That information was made public at the discretion of the creator.
I will not and have not post any private personal information without proper authorization.
If you investigated this critically, you will find that the "personal" information that was posted were in the LinkedIn links that the project creators provided voluntarily. In fact, on the Kickstarter's site, those links are still present and active. So if I am in violation of Kickstarter's terms, so is Kickstarter.
If you find private personal information that was posted, that was not provided by the project creators, please let me know I would gladly apologize and rescind that information.
I am trying to be very reasonable. It would help if Kickstarter, would take a more active and transparent and responsible role when situations like these arise.
Is this acceptable?
April 09, 2014 16:07
Also, technically all the things I have posted were public information provided in urls links which were provided by the project creators.
I haven't violated any of kickstarter's rules since I did not post any private information which they had not already provided.
Check for yourself and you will see that this is true.
April 09, 2014 17:26
I have not heard back from you.
I would politely ask for answers to my questions related to this matter.
April 11, 2014 19:37
Even if this information is publicly available, we do not allow posting of personal contact information on Kickstarter comments sections. This is not negotiable, and your account will remain restricted until you agree to abide fully by our terms moving forward.
April 15, 2014 10:30
Please identify ot for me so I can better understand.
April 15, 2014 13:49
I will abide and not post personal contact information, ie address, telephone number.
Also, I would like the project creators' contact information as I will be filing a lawsuit against them and well as police/fbi reports. I will need, names, addresses, telephone numbers, social security numbers, any other identifying information.
This is an official request. I definitely will not be posting this information on Kickstarter.
Your cooperation will be appreciated.
April 15, 2014 13:55
Thanks for agreeing to our guidelines. I've restored your account to full functionality. Keep in mind, inability to comply with our guidelines going forward could result in further irreversible action.
April 15, 2014 15:53
If you have been following this case, then you know that the creator has not fulfilled their promises in good faith and have not responded to the emails of multiple backers requesting refunds. My attorney has instructed me to request this information from kickstarter. This represents a contractual issue between the backers and the creators who have access to our information. If Kickstarter cannot or will not comply with this request, then we will have to assume collusion between kickstarter and the creators to prevent legal action and would have to include Kickstarter as a defendent, which is not what we want to do.
@Richard - Hey thanks a lot! I'll be rejecting it. There is $125 down the drain.
I've continually got the run around from Kickstarter. At every step unwilling to help. I vow never to buy anything on Kickstarter again. There is simply no protection against this type of behavior. Too bad for all the legitimate products...
@John they are not gonna refund your money. They intended cheating us. I also asked several times to KS but they never give me proper answer.
Anyone have advice and/or direct contact information to help secure a refund? I have yet to receive responses from the creators about a refund through Kickstarter's message system.
So here is the PUBLICLY posted info on the kickstarter SCAMMERS
This infomation is available via linkedin from the links provided by the project founders:
Muaz Rabah, PMP
Program Manager at Philips Lumileds
Farmington Hills, MI
370 W Trimble Road San Jose, CA 95131 United States
Continental, Ritaj, FTR International, Inc.
Master of Business Administration (MBA)
2013 – 2015 (expected)
M.S., Electrical Engineering
2003 – 2006
Michigan State University
B.S., Electrical Engineering
2000 – 2003
University of Michigan-Flint
Bachelor of Science (BS), Engineering
1999 – 2000
Detroit Engineered Products
AJM Professional Services, Honeywell Middle East Ltd., Birla Institute of Technology and Science Pilani
University of Michigan
University of Michigan
M.S.E, Mechanical Engineering,
2009 – 2010
Birla Institute of Technology and Science
B.E.(Hons), Mechanical Engineering,
Md Shahnoor Amin
2000 North M63 Benton Harbor, Michigan 49022 United States
Chrysler, June Energy, Nima Group, LLC
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Global Strategic Sourcing
July 2012 – Present (1 year 10 months)
St. Joseph, MI
2011 – 2012 (1 year)Chelsea, MI
Co-Founder / Lead Engineer
April 2009 – December 2011 (2 years 9 months)Ann Arbor, MI
Nima Group, LLC
June 2007 – June 2009 (2 years 1 month)Rochester, MI
July 2005 – June 2009 (4 years)Madison Heights, MI
@Kickstarter This information is freely available on the internet from links provided on this site
@Brad Hsu - They made it public, just post the links to that info. Personally I would post the full info on one post including the link on Kickstarter to it. Keep posting it.This way we will know that Kickstarter protect scammers when they delete it. More ammo for the news media!
Quick question- I posted the information that the project creators made available via LinkedIn URLs. Kickstarter says this is private/personal information which I shouldn't have posted. I say this is public information they voluntarily posted, so that Kickstarter rule does not apply.
Was I wrong to post that information?
Nothing like getting hosed... They sent us a cheap Amazon product!
@Sandy Zisser - You are on the money. If everyone started to contact local media about this and how Kickstarter is protecting the scammers by deleting comments and such, we will at least have the satisfaction of getting the word out. I have supported a number of campaigns and have been scammed on 2.. plus another one for $100 that may or may not come through. The guy has cancer, but I see he is doing another campaign on another site.
I am not sure if I am going to continue on kickstarter, 3 strikes and you're out...
@Eric Ness - Might as well reject the shipment and save the $30. What they sent was absoulute crap and virtually unusable.
Time for you all to get angry enough to start taking to local media about ks and these dirt bags. One phone call or email to local tv news will do it. They LOVE these stories. It boosts ratings. Flip side we blow the whistle. Do it.
It's interesting. KS covers these guys instead of investing their crappy con.
This is what Kickstarter sent me:
Kickstarter Support (Kickstarter)
Apr 07 15:21
@ Kickstarter- I agree, internet stalking is not in good form, however, I was only posting information that the project creators had freely given themselves by providing URL links in the project description. As such there is no expectation of privacy for that information and it should be allowed. I would request that you restore all my comments in all fairness. Be respectful and considerate.
I was wondering why the comments dropped from near 310 to under 300 the other day....Go Kickstarter......