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A post-apocalyptic adventure/visual novel hybrid inspired by Ace Attorney and Zero Escape games set in Japan.
A post-apocalyptic adventure/visual novel hybrid inspired by Ace Attorney and Zero Escape games set in Japan.
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The "We're Alive!" Update (And Some Questions Answered)

Posted by Kwan (Creator)
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Hey guys. We do continue to listen to you after all these years. Your thoughts are important to us. We wouldn't even be here without you. So, this update might be a lot shorter than we'd hoped our next update will be, but we hear you - it's worrying not to see anything new despite promises of getting work done.

For now, let's take a sneak peek at where the story of Exogenesis will unfold.

First up is a certain place in the countryside. Most of the game happens in Novus Tokyo, but our group of former treasure hunters ventures out, too. Where this is or what they're doing here, we'll have to leave that for later. :)
First up is a certain place in the countryside. Most of the game happens in Novus Tokyo, but our group of former treasure hunters ventures out, too. Where this is or what they're doing here, we'll have to leave that for later. :)

 

The locations the game takes place in are varied, but we couldn't leave out a classic. What's a visual novel without one of those Japanese high schools, right?
The locations the game takes place in are varied, but we couldn't leave out a classic. What's a visual novel without one of those Japanese high schools, right?

We can do more of these little updates if you like 'em, so let us know what you think. Now to answer a few questions...*crosses fingers*

What's talking so long?

It's easy to point at the game's expanded scope as the major reason why we're still not done. We've doubled the 150,000 word count target and that increased exponentially the necessary amount of revision and polish involved. But we're also having difficulties production-wise. Our downturns caught up on us, people are working on different things, and progress has been really slow. We have problems, but thankfully nothing grave enough to stop us.

Will there be voice acting?

There won't be voice acting on Day 1, but we will be working on a voiced version immediately post-release. The new version will be free to all backers of course, and it'll include post-game content. 

Alex Hamerling, Phil Cobley, and 19 more people like this update.

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    1. Specie8470 on

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    2. Alex Hamerling on

      FYI I am a big backer and some of the people in here annoy me. Especially telling them to abandon the project and forget about the hard work they already put in and basically telling them to screw over everyone who donated. Put yourself in their shoes, would you really do such a thing to yourself? No, they need to keep going with whatever steam they have left. They might even need to neuter the project and cut out stuff if they're running dry, but if I were a creator, with these kinds of stakes, I would not stop until I had *something*.

      At least the ones who want their money back are a bit more sensible, although your money has already been spent, which is the reality.

      Game development is hard, believe me, I know. It's easy to fool yourself into thinking you can be uber ambitious, only to be slapped in the face by reality. They don't need people who have no clue what they're talking about slapping them in the face as well.

      Once again though, the lack of updates has been poor form. You might be afraid of spoiling us, or even backlash, but trust me, radio silence is *worse*. Have you considered sharing the occasional test build? Spoilers be damned, I think at this point people deserve to have a look at what you've got.

    3. John Paul on

      @Kurt. I am in the same pledge price point as you. I pledged to this game based on what was promised in voice acting and style. However, as seen on the other updates (which were done on Facebook for sometime as well), issues happened.

      I have been a part of a few Kickstarters and maybe 1 of them actually panned out perfectly as planned. One abandoned completely, others were delayed for months to a few years and others continued on post Kickstarter with additional purchases before completing. In contrast, there are a few entities that really do it right with constant updates and giving the backers options and votes to steer the direction of the project - since they donated.

      I agree it is like betting on a horse except the circumstances can change mid-race. Not only can you lose, but in the middle of the race, the owner of the horse tells his jockey to jump the fence and run out of the stadium, or they tell the jockey to stop the horse completely and never finish the race because some big corporation decided to buy it. The big corp promises a payout but now its on their terms. Not the typical bet.

      In this case, the whole thing could be a bluff but they are still communicating unlike countless ones that simply faded away. These are donor based financing opportunities. We are not a board of directors with a stake in the company or venture capitalists with contracts demanding a certain % of profit within a timeframe or there will be consequences. We donated and gave hope to someone's idea with the promise (not guaranteed) of additional perks.

      People can and should be frustrated, but this is a huge reason why kickstarter has lost its initial popularity.

      There are many times I forget this project even exists and it seems to be plagued with issues of programmers leaving, unforeseen personal circumstances and issues trying to bring the game to Unity; but they are still talking.

      As a backer, I say let them do what they want to do at this point because my money was donated. Do the best you can. Set a clear plan, a clear one, and stick to it no matter what. If it doesn't turn out the way you want it, so be it. No voice acting, so be it. As others have also said, if this is turning into a huge burden, then either let the project go completely or cut out some of the ambition and get a coherent game out. If it is a little bit longer, then just put in the final stretch to a firm unwavering date and make it happen.

      Life is too short and mistakes happen to all of us. Sometimes the best thing to do is move on and reset or finish it and move on.

    4. Tracey Craig
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      I pledged $50... after 3 years and only 34 updates... frankly i've had enough.... do what you want.

    5. Martin Joly on

      I for one am happy to see an update and being able to to see some new stuff. Just keep them coming until release. The sooner we can all get our hands on the game the better, but I'm okay with waiting that little bit longer if you need the time. Looking forward to playing it and seeing the next update soon.

      (P.S. - I can wait for voice acting, if I can enjoy 999 and Phoenix Wright without voices then I'm sure I can do the same with this)

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      Kurt on

      @Specie8470 The sad truth is I only pledged $50 and honestly as much I want to, I can not provide any solid justification to refute your posts and comments as you actually make a lot of valid claims and points. Maybe I'm just too much of a softie or something. I just run into a lot of these same situations on various crowd funding projects and I usually see more negative remarks than I see positive ones. I really hope the game does get finished and is a product that everyone can enjoy. Will it be as awesome as I thought it looked like during the initial campaign? Probably not. Still I must either have a lot of patience or maybe I'm just weird. I really do not know. Given you say they've privately messaged you in the past, you probably know more about the progress of the overall project than I do. I have never made a game before and I imagine it is not easy.

    7. Specie8470 on

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      Kurt on

      I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I may have no place to say this; however, the comments in this update thread by other backers quite frankly annoys me. Every time I back something on Kickstarter, I know right up front that I could be throwing my money away. Just like if I went to a horse race. I could go to a horse race and leave rich or I could leave with nothing. After reviewing some of the older updates from previous years again on this project, it is my opinion that this is still an exciting project and clearly the author is working as hard as they can. If they did not care at all, they would not even bother giving us an update at all. I really hope that the author does finish this project and I will gladly play it and probably enjoy it as well. So whomever is still working on this project with whatever staff (if any at all) just do the best that you can. There is always going to be haters out there who feel cheated of their money but the people that do play and enjoy your finished product will hopefully make up for it. Of course this will only happen if the game actually turns out well and not be the type that feels like a rushed unpolished crap visual novel. My final thought: I already gave you my money. Nothing about how this project turns out will make me ask for that money back. As far as I'm concerned that money does not exist anymore to me. When you finish the project, I'll review the game, play the game, hell I'll probably broadcast it on my Twitch page. I'll wait until then to pass judgment on whether I liked the game or not. NOT before and not now. I hope other backers feel the same way and still have some faith in this project.

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      Caitlin Krueger on

      The money ran out, everyone left, no screenshots, no release date. This project is dead.

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      Marco Beltrame on

      @John Paul Zahary Sorry, but I don't agree. The updates (or lack of thereof) have been incoherent, vague, and pointless. In all honesty, the personal life of the developer, while may have been a contributing factor, does not warrant a post that has nothing to do with the game itself.

      My best guess. given the extremely vague update which promises another update- like last time, I have to add - is that they don't have any programmer working on this full time (IF they have anyone. I hardly trust what is being said), and again, most of this mess was born out of feature creep and the Unity idea of porting. It would be more honest and quicker to admit defeat and move on, instead of keeping this "tragedy" going on.

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      Marco Beltrame on

      @John Paul Zahary Sorry, but I don't agree. The updates (or lack of thereof) have been incoherent, vague, and pointless. In all honesty, the personal life of the developer, while may have been a contributing factor, does not warrant a post that has nothing to do with the game itself.

      My best guess. given the extremely vague update which promises another update- like last time, I have to add - is that they don't have any programmer working on this full time (IF they have anyone. I hardly trust what is being said), and again, most of this mess was born out of feature creep and the Unity idea of porting. It would be more honest and quicker to admit defeat and move on, instead of keeping this "tragedy" going on.

    12. John Paul on

      After watching the original pitch video again, it was pretty ambitious what this game was trying to accomplish. Having voice acting (which now may or may not come after launch - no offense, but I understand how wording things can be if unforeseen circumstances continue to come), how there would be multiple interactions and relationships, political intrigue, different factions in the post apocalyptic world - all of that atmosphere presented was why many people, including myself, put money into this project. That and the fact that the pitch stated we have to wait so long for those types of games to be released.

      I have learned that when giving to kickstarter, it is not an investment where you are guaranteed a return. It is really a "donation" of sorts with an advertisement of possibly getting something back while the developers do their thing and who sometimes change everything up.

      Bashing is not going to be my thing. There have been kickstarters where creators disappear and take the loot without saying a word. This could be a big bluff just to keep people calmed down, but in a world where kickstarter doesn't force anyone to refund people (not in this circumstance at least) or that they could have gone quietly into the night, these developers still are communicating.

      Do the best you can...and if you have to make a deadline and release it, then do it. If it is not what was originally promised especially with the voice acting, then so be it. Sometimes, it is best to give it all and if it turns into a burden, then finally let it go.

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      Marco Beltrame on

      Everytime I back something I consider it a loss. In this case, the loss is pretty much justified. This update says nothing, as I expected, and I don't think the next one will be more clear.

      I just with the devs would finally admit all this mess happened because they wanted the Ouya money (hence the need to port to Unity, etc), which I'm not even sure they got in the end.

      My humble suggestion: close it down. If you are unable to complete it, better say it now instead of promising "new" updates which will probably never come or will be sanitized like this one.

    14. Mooshman on

      I honestly forgot I backed this so long ago until this recent update. Still excited for it but this short an update after so long a radio silence is pretty crazy.

      @Kwan if a large update is in the pipeline, when can we expect it? Are we talking days, weeks or months? With the announcement of the release date, will that be set in stone or subject to change?

      I'm amazed this game is still alive and I'm still happy to have supported it, but if there have been people working on different things at least show us something to entice us, instead of just posting 2 pictures less polished & animated than the initial Kickstarter pitch.

      Looking forward to knowing when I can finally plow through this. (I mean this in an "it's the game I believe in and I'm excited to experience the story" and not an "ARE WE THERE YET?!!?" comment.)

    15. Specie8470 on

      Wow has hell frozen over there is an actual game update? Thanks for the update although it is very little news and I know there is more going on then this since the last game update in 2015.

      @Wistrel Chianti I tolally agree with you about this we are at the three year anniversary of this kickstarter and this is all we get. About the voice acting I asked them about that and they said they due to them missing the deadline (WHO SET THIS DEADLINE?) that they had to pull back on the voice acting for the game launch (WHENEVER THAT IS)
      @Zack velicogna I really want my money back at this pont too considering how we are being treated. I doubt they will pay anyone back honestly even if the game fails to come out. I don't know how much money you put into this kickstarter but I invested hundreds of dollars into this kickstarter and also supported many other visual novel kickstarters and feel that most of that has been wasted. I have been lied to by many creators and caught them in lies even had one creator have the nerve to reuse artwork for multiple games and he launches kickstarters for visual novel games every few months while unable to finish visual novel games that have been in development for years.
      I feel that this game will fail to see the light and people on the team are just going their own seperate ways after all it has been three years and time cost money and I think they are out.

    16. Kwan Creator on

      @Wistrel People asked for the smaller update in the comments. The large update that explains everything and answers all the questions (including release date!) is still in the pipeline. Sorry for the wait.

    17. Christian Rose on

      I would love to see more updates, i understand that it might be hard to make updates with all that's happened, keep going towards that finishing line!

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      Wistrel Chianti on

      I hate to say it, (sorry for the negative sentiment) but this update does kinda send my bullshitometer flying into the red zone. Long gap, very little upfrontness, vaguearies, pictures that might have been produced years ago. Backpeddling on voice acting without explanation (didn't you have some of the cast of Attack on Titan Abridged signed up for this?).

      Lets be real, people gave you money and you don't even have the decency to be fully honest about the situation with game progress. If someone asked you what you did at work last week, you'd be able to tell them in some detail, but not backers?

      No wonder Zack wants his money back. If you'd been providing regular honest updates, despite the delay, do you think he'd have still lost interest?

    19. Zack velicogna on

      please give my money back i no longer have any interest in this game