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Kwan why aren't you working on the game more is it because you are busy doing the drugs? Some of your backers aren't willing to wait another 10 years in between you getting high to finish this game.
GIVE ME A REFUND!!!!
@Frank Ko you are probably just a low tier pledge but I will say this anyways. You do realize that the longer Kwan takes to make the game the more money they burn through and then we don't get a game right because unlike other game companies all Kwan has is the kickstarter money that we gave and once that is gone it's game over. We gave him almost double of what he asked for in the kickstarter he launched and almost four years later nothing. Frank I will cut you a bit of slack since you backed all of only two kickstarters but according to kickstarter terms " A Project Creator is not required to grant a Backer’s request for a refund unless the Project Creator is unable or unwilling to fulfill the reward.
Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
Now Kwan really doesn't seem focused on getting the game done anytime soon because he is obviously busy checking out other games posting about other things or doing drugs. If Kwan really wanted to get the game done more then anyone else like he has told me he would be working on the game full time and not posting about unrelated stuff on facebook or creating christmas themed artwork that's probably won't even be in the game. Kwan is unwilling to finish this game or even answer basic question about the progress of the game. Frank the longer this takes the more likely is Kwan is going to take off and disappear or overdose on drugs and I don't know about you but I know some of the backers don't want to waste their money on someone that says the same basic thing year after year.
KWAN I WANT A REFUND SINCE YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER BASIC QUESTIONS AFTER MONTHS OF ASKING!
I would rather wait 10 more years than see this game unfinished. If they're going to release the game, then I don't care if I have to wait a little longer. Also to those who say they want a refund, Kickstarter is NOT a store. You are giving money to help FUND a project that will provide rewards for its backers. You can't get a refund anyway since it's part of Kickstarter's policy. You aren't purchasing anything and as long as the creators are working at it, you haven't lost anything yet. The lack of updates is discouraging but I still have faith in this game. If the game doesn't come out by the end of the year, I will be disappointed. But that's fine since I care more about the quality than how fast I'm gonna receive my stuff. It's been 3 years and I'm still excited to see where the story goes. To the creators, I hope you guys stay positive. To everyone else, patience is a virtue.
Shouldn't you be working on this game full time or do you honestly expect people to wait for whenever you want to get around to making this game that has been delayed since 2014? You are not doing much talking regardless of what I say and you are taking drugs the proof is on facebook. Seems like you got a lot of time for posting things not related to this game but no time for game updates or to answer questions without a vague answer from people that gave you $56,288. Honestly how long do you expect people to wait before they get pissed off with the same nonsense year after year from you? How much of this game still needs to be done or do you even know?
Where full-time is required, yes. At this point, we've almost completed all the assets we need and therefore don't really need new backgrounds being created full-time, for example. Easier to talk when you're not accusing people of taking drugs, eh? :)
Kwan is this game being worked on full time?
Hey Kwan do you pay people a salary and not do much work is that where the money went or did the money go on the drugs you are taking?
Kwan how many times have you said the last stretch or similar words? You said you were in the final push to get the game out September 2016 and earlier this year on facebook you stated you were within the finish line and we are at the end of 2017 and this game most likely won't be out this year. I am convinced that the money is gone and this game will be made whenever and if you get around to it. You refuse to answer most of my questions or just give me vague answers. If you really wanted to get this game done you would have by now but somehow you have time post about other things and other games and create artwork that will probably not be in the game. You can't even answer a simple question how much this game is being worked on other then we are doing what needs to be done to finish this game. IS THIS WITHIN OUR LIFETIME???
We're not abandoning anything, guys. We're in the last stretch - leaving anything unfinished would be quite a waste. ;)
I'm not necessarily talking about the details of the publishing agreement, but what we have now is complete abandonment for months at a time by project creator. posting here and begging for answers is not working. What else are we supposed to do?
Any news ?
Sekai Project is probably contractually obligated to not reveal the details about their deal to publish this game. I did hear from Nicolas he told me to calm down I been asking questions for months with no answer. I question if they game is being worked on full time or part time or spare time and it seems like the later. How long should we be expected to wait five years or more? Going to wait a bit then get on Nicolas again.
Maybe it would be a good time to target our complaints to Sekai Project, they have inherited certain obligations by agreeing to publish this game. Maybe if we flood them on twitter and through customer service emails for action, they can use their leverage to get some type of answer.
Do you intend to just take our money and give us nothing? What is happening with this game? Why won't you answer my questions? I want my game or give me a refund!!!!!
I would appreciate an answer to the questions I am asking I put $500 into this kickstarter and I deserve respect and so do the rest of the backers that gave you money. We have been waiting three and a half years for this game that was supposed to come out in 2014. What is the current completion progress of this game? How much longer is it going to take to get this game made exactly. What exactly does Sekai Project bring to the table to help get this game made? What happened to your previous programmer that was with you since 2015? Either give me my game or give me a refund. How long do you expect people to wait WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE GAME!!!!?!?!? AND DON'T SAY SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Jim I appreciate the support. We been at this for three and half years and still no game in sight and not much from the creator. I still question what Sekai Project is bringing to the table to help get this game made. We heard a year ago they were in the final push to get the game out before year end and a year later still nothing and who knows if it will ever get done.
Imagine what type of content you have to present to a publisher to get a deal, I bet Sekai Project has seen more of this games progress then we have for entire duration since kickstarter. I'm sorry your question has been ignored for a week @Specie8470. Sadly, that is the continuing status quo, even though I hoped it would change following this news of securing a publisher.
Nicolas Sanchez can you please answer my questions. What does Sekai Project bring to the table that will help get this game made exactly? How are you in any better position to get the game made with Sekai Project then with Razer which you failed to meet any of those deadlines? On the subject of programming what happened to the programmer you had since 2015 that you had confidence in? You seem to be having alot of problems with progamming is finding a Unity programmer harder to find then a Ren' py programmer? Where has all the money you had saved up exactly gone are you just paying programmers money who arn't good at coding or have you spent all of our money we gave you on drugs? You said six months ago on Facebook that you were close to the finish line and six months later we still don't have a game and no clear delivery. You said a year ago that you are in the final push to get the game out before the year ends but a year later still no game and no idea if will ever get released. Nicolas Sanchez where do you stand at the overall completed production percentage of this game? I am tired of hearing you say soon for every damn question I have been waiting three and a half years for this game. Nicolas Sanchez I want your physical address because you have not delivered what is promised by Kickstarer you are legally obligated to give me. I want my game!
Where is my Game?
Just so you know, while I am still excited to see the final product, you still get an F- for communication.
Feels like we are the last to know here on the original kickstarter what is going on. Would have been nice to have a kickstarter update for backers to coincide with this news. Instead of just leaving everyone here to guess and assume what this means.
I'm not on Twitter so I hadn't seen the announcement.
This is very promising all of a sudden!
Not sure if this is good news or not, but it's bad news for anyone that wanted a Vita copy. Glad I backed this for the PC version. Sekai hasn't released anything on Vita yet..
Hopefully there are some benefits aside from marketing for joining up with Sekai.
Suprised Sekai Project picked this game up. Upset this was announced in other places first before the kickstarter because honestly we gave alot and got nothing but nothing yet. Hopefully Sekai Project will be able to help finish the game. I did have a chance to meet with them last weekend so atleast things look less hopeless. Wonder when the game will be released though.
Seems like the news is that the game is now published by Sekai Project:
I've lost patience.
Hopefully the news is an actual release of the game.
Sorry, guys. Soon it'll be made clear what the silence has been about.
Please stop going dark. It's frustrating.
Can we get some kind of update? Haven't seen anything since May
@Kwan It's been six weeks now... getting pretty hard to defend you when you keep disappearing like this
@Wistrel Chianti the reason for silence is because nothing is getting done. The producer blew all the money developing for Ouya and prescription meds and the money is gone.
Hi Dev Team. Please see the following link. This is how you should be updating people as to progress. (not the silence you seem to be so very very fond of ; ) ) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/64161490/the-13th-doll-a-fan-game-of-the-7th-guest/posts/1920038…
@Kwan Hey man, been a month since your last update. Got anything more to show on your progress? Would be interesting to see what's been done in that time.
@Alex Colossians 4:6 Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer everyone.
@Specie That's not what I was saying, you just hijacked my argument to spread more salt.
@Alex Hamerling Oh I get the point of your post totally, The reason for no updates is nothing much is getting done. It has been three years people are not going to sit around waiting forever.
Huh. I totally forgot about this game and that I was a backer.
@Specie You're completely missing the point of my post. I don't appreciate you hijacking my arguments just to spread more of your salt.
@Alex Hamerling thats if voice acting hasn't already been cut out of the game. I heard they will release voice acting later on as an update now but who really knows now.
Why does every "update" have to be a long post? Just communicate more. Show a screenshot, share what a voice actor had for lunch, just say hi, anything.
Whats the point in even having release dates if you never make them with no explanation? You said before the game would be out for sure in 2016 and we are almost halfway into 2017 with no news no nothing just silence. We want a damn answer of what the hell is going on and how much longer is this going to take?
I think people would just really like some evidence that there's work being done at all. We have to take your word for it all the time. I know you're probably scared to disappoint or of backlash, but only talking about stuff all the time doesn't satisfy our curiosity about the games state or prove anything really. Hard evidence that you're doing anything would be cool. Non-spoiler screenshot maybe? Your updates on the facebook have stopped as well which compounds the issue.
Anyway, not trying to come down on you. I can wait however long. I just think it would be healthier to show what's going on so that it doesn't create an environment where your backers try to attack/defend you with no proof.
Hope that release date isn't too far away.
I personally never read long updates since I don't care about development details much or the lives of the developers. Still, updates are important as an indication that a project is alive, a new screenshot/art and a couple lines of text are enough for me. Not having updates for months is not cool, since that makes me come and manually check comments, and I prefer to spend my time doing fun things.
Anyway, nice to know the game is not dead. =)
We feel that nothing short of a release date really means anything at this point. Even if we post new content, the question is still going to be: when is the game coming out?
So the next update will be about that (and revealing that new content of course!), when it comes. Thank you guys for sticking around, and we'll continue to push forward and hopefully bring everyone an awesome game. :)
I dont understand why the narrative now is that an update on the kickstarter has to be so substantial in order to satisfy backers, so for that reason we just wont update at all. It makes absolutely no sense. I'd be happy just seeing what the main menu and user settings options will look like. Some type of picture showing progress, is all I want.
@Nils Kirchhof you back all of two projects including this one. I am familar with the visual novel Root Double and have played that also and basically that kickstarer was for physical goods as the game itself was already translated and was going to come out anyways with or without the kickstarter. I know it is hard to develop a game on multiple platforms. I do often wonder what the whole deal with Ouya is and if they ever paid out the money owed and what the whole story is behind that is but I guess i will never know unless we are told which might be never.
I do feel betrayed I been lied to on many kickstarters and had every excuse. I even have one visual novel game I supported that actually came out be pulled off of steam for undisclosed reasons. The fact is that we were promised the game would be released in 2016 and it's looking like it won't be done even by half way into 2017 if ever. Also the fact the last game update was in 2015 is nonesense. There is no excuse for not having an update in almost a year and a half and i am tired of this nonesense about being unable to put out a worthy kickstarter update in that length of time.
Kickstarter isn't some investment or some chairty for developers. According to kickstarter we are promised said rewards that are stated but the quality of them is in question but we are still owed are rewards for the tier we backed.
I am trying to support the english visual novel industry but it just seems my efforts are wasted and developers don't care.
@Specie8470 I back the projects on kickstarter fully knowing that I might not get anything in return.
I'm studying CS at the moment so I can imagine how hard it must be to develop a game, let alone for multiple platforms.
You shouldn't feel betrayed or anything, because I don't think you were. Even if I don't know if the game will be released, I think the creator put his heart and soul into the game.
See your pledge as investment in an independent developer and to show the industry that there is an audience for this type of games.
@Nils Kirchhof I hope the game isn't dead but I have a feeling that you are correct. I just want to cry so let down been trying to support these types of games and been let down every time,