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The Arist coffee machine brews coffees like the world's best baristas at the tap of a smartphone.
The Arist coffee machine brews coffee like the world's best baristas at the tap of a smartphone.
The Arist coffee machine brews coffee like the world's best baristas at the tap of a smartphone.
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Running out of names, Update #13

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Hi Everyone, 

It’s been a quick 2 weeks and here is Update #13.

Technical 

In addition to the specs of the Arist machine from last Update, here are the features of the Arist App. Feel free to suggest more features you like for our software team so we can prioritize them.

Features of the Arist app: 

  • 13 brew configurations
  • bean type (from one of the two coffee compartments ) 
  • bean quantity 
  • grind size 
  • water quantity 
  • water temperature 
  • water pressure 
  • milk quantity 
  • milk temperature 
  • milk froth level 
  • sugar quantity 
  • syrup quantity 
  • chocolate quantity 
  • water / milk dispense order
  • Save a brew configurations set 
  • Assign brew configuration set to an nfc sticker
  • Set a timer to automatically brew pre-configured coffee 
  • Browse and download coffee recipes by professional baristas on the Arist online store 
  • Order coffee ingredients (coffee beans, syrups, etc.) 
  • Search for the recipes of a specific coffee bean by scanning the bar code on the package 
  • Get notifications for new recipe recommendations 
  • Inspect the status of Arist ( fill level of beans, water, milk, drip tray ) 
  • Alerts for maintenance ( descaling, milk frother cleaning, etc. ) 
  • Share brew configurations

Clarification of some questions

Max Temperature

Currently our water heater is set at 95C = 203F. Higher temperature is possible. We will conduct more testing with the manufacture unit to make sure higher temperatures are consistent and accurate when above 205F.

Milk Container

The milk container is part of the machine. It was marked optional because it is not required to be there when brewing coffee that doesn't have milk. In addition, the milk container can be taken out to wash and or separately put into your refrigerator.

Cocoa powder/Sugar powder container

While redesigning the syrup dispenser, with further research and technical investigations, we realized the humidity difference in each country may cause solidification in the powder container. So we are considering to replace the powder (cocoa and crystalized sugars) container with cocoa syrup and white/brown sugar syrup for our first version of Arist.

Rewards 

We have already sent out the coffee starter kits and backers should expect to receive them within the week. Our coffee team worked really hard on selecting the beans so that you can try a wide variety of flavors. We welcome your comments and critique of the quality as that will greatly help us in finding the most suitable suppliers. 

Once again, we want to kindly remind backers with the T-shirt reward to respond to the survey regarding T-shirt size to ensure the prompt arrival of your reward. If you did not receive a survey or email, please contact aristcafe@nbition.com and leave your size option and a valid shipping address with the full name of the recipient.

Concerns

It has come to our attention that the updated machine specifications have left some of our backers with concerns. We would like to address that here. First and foremost, we want to thank everyone for your involvement in this project and for giving us the time we need to work hard to bring this project to life. We assure you, the minor changes in some specs and dimensions will not affect the expected functionality of the machine and are done to optimize cost and efficiency. Please continue to be patient with us and avoid submitting unsupported refund claims to Amazon, as it uses up our manpower to deal with such issues. Wouldn’t you rather we spend our time working on this project?

Up until now, there have been 3 unsuccessful disputes asking for refunds through Amazon. For those of you who raised their voice to help explain in the comment section, thank you. We monitor the comment section very closely, and your support whether through funding to efforts in the comment section is very very much appreciated.

And for those of you who think Kickstarter has contacted Arist, I want you to understand that they have not contacted us since releasing our campaign from suspension on Nov 3. It is up to us (Backers + Arist) to cooperate together to complete this project

Issues that we are facing 

Like most projects, there are many hurdles to cross before the project is completed. We would like to use this section to share some of the challenges we are facing after the initial Kickstarter campaign. Also, we want to provide explanations to some tweaks we have made. 

External casing modification 

We decided to change the case size due to manufacturing challenges. A few of our components were larger than expected in the manufacturing model and needed a stronger internal mechanical case to secure their performance. Some components have also increased in size due to cost. 

Picking the right manufacturer 

Picking the right manufacturing partner is essential to the success of the Arist. I have just spent the better part of the past month visiting with many different manufacturers in China to ensure they are capable to comply with all our specifications and deciding on the strategy of how to separate the machine into a few OEMs. The negotiation process is super challenging; the difference in cultural background, business standards, and mindset has been the biggest resistance for us to identify possible genuine partners.  We have narrowed down to a few respectful manufacturers. I just want to thank all backers and Kickstarter again for providing us with a large enough initial order quantity to keep costs within budget. 

Investor relations 

The challenge of working with investors was truly an unforeseen one. Shows like “Shark Tank” oversimplify this process. In reality, instead of one quick meeting, it involves multiple meetings with interested parties for numerous hours. Since December of last year, I have met with more than 50 interested parties exploring opportunities to expand Arist and make it a better company. In addition, we are also negotiating with distributers from 30 different countries.

The Comment Section 

I just want everyone to know we read all of your comments, as I have the Kickstarter app on my iPhone and I’m notified immediately once a comment is made. Every positive constructive comment gives our team motivation and encourages us to continue to strive for the best. The entire Team Arist thanks you for your positivity and optimism. Negative comments to speculated problems, in contrast, only spread fear and negativity, which brings stress to our team. And as you all know, stress is not good for productivity. Also, the fear of a problem usually causes more trouble than the problem itself. Please keep things positive and hopeful in the comments section while we work our bottoms off to get the Arist to you.

That's it for this update, enjoy the Super Bowl everyone!

Thanks

- Team Arist

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    1. Missing avatar

      Benibi on

      Good job but Pleeeease no chocolate sugar ! I don't want to have sugar, I don't want to have artificial flavor and conservatives, and I don't want to pay for a specific syrup rather than choose my own 100% cocoa powder ! In adding few brown crystalized sugar to cocoa powder, it doesn't agglomerate. Syrup is for Starbucks fans. Starbucks coffee is just ultra-expensive, not tasty. Your coffe machine is for coffee lovers, for geek coffee lovers, not for Starbucks fanboys.

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      J. Ross on

      You need to EARN positive comments not simply receive them!

    3. Lucas Hantz on

      Please keep the powder container (at least one) as we have a lot of powder product in France that can't be use as syrups. Arist would not be the same without it!!

    4. Lisa Stuart
      Superbacker
      on

      Keep up the good work!
      I'm sorry if this has already been addressed but can you make sure that we can draw from both coffee bean dispensers for a single drink. I'm a "half-caf" person.

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      Erin on

      One of the primary reasons we supported this campaign by purchasing 2 Arist units was the ability to use our own ingredients and not be forced to rely on higher priced / proprietary supplies in order to use our machine to its full potential.

      The loss of both powder options would be a big let down for us as it raises the cost of supplies considerably while also removing options. We would hope that providing proper directions, maintenance and cleaning instructions would eliminate most of the issues humidity might cause. We would think humidity would be a greater concern for the grinder/coffee bean section of the machine. Perhaps the process used to keep that portion of the machine protected should be used elsewhere? (I am no engineer but the logic seems sound)

      Admittedly, I haven't read through every post but the ones I have read through do not appear to be disrespectful or overtly negative. They appear to show concern after a slow down in promised responses/updates. If that issue is fixed on the creators end I'm certain remaining negativity would cease.

      We are very excited to be part of the process and can't wait to use our new machines!

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      Andrew Milligan on

      Totally agree powder is better than syrup - please keep it in.

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      Josh Wilkerson on

      Keep up the GREAT work!

    8. Michael Rooney on

      @Tom: On cinnamon, cinnamon gets goopy when exposed to hot water. I'd be really worried about clogs in the system if you were to use cinnamon powder, even under optimal conditions.

    9. Tom Randolph on

      I'd like to throw another vote in for powder instead of syrups.

      I know there are concerns regarding humidity, but I would vastly prefer a powder solution to a syrup solution. Wouldn't a nice rubber sealed container for the powders solve the majority of the humidity issues? Just throwing that out there, as I know nothing about this.

      On a tangent, it would be really cool if we could label the powders as any arbitrary name in the app so instead of "cocoa" and "sugar" we could replace one with "cinnamon" or "nutmeg" (maybe somebody uses a ridiculous amount of those spices!). I think this speaks to the power of using powders instead of syrups.

    10. Rob
      Superbacker
      on

      Can you please just ensure that the cocoa dispenser does not turn into a proprietary design? Keeping it open is extremely important. That way, should Arist ever go out of business, or stop producing the units, we won't be SOL. Either way, though, I am very much looking forward to seeing the updated design. Do you have an estimate on when we might be able to see the new unit?

    11. Kaveh Shahabi on

      Man, in Shark Tank they sell recycled pizza box... you guys are making the Tesla of coffee machines. Of course it's a harder sell to investors :P . Keep up the good work.

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      Phil Lindenbaum on

      Thanks for the update.

    13. Jørgen te Giffel on

      pls NO proprietary sugar/cocoa syrup - pls keep with promised powder containers and we'll monitor humidity issues ourselves

    14. Harry Armytage on

      Thanks for the update - I would prefer cocoa powder to syrup.

      You are doing a wonderful job, keep it up :)

    15. Michael Rooney on

      Can you explain more about the sugar/cocoa proposed changes? Would there instead be 4 syrup containers with 2 dedicated to sugar/cocoa? Or are you saying cocoa would take up one of the 2 other syrup containers?

      Can you use sweetener instead of sugar? I tend to use sweetener for my every day coffee and sugar when I am having coffee as a treat instead of a means of survival.

      Are you going to be able to make your own sugar/cocoa syrup to use in the machine?

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      Jukka Alakontiola on

      Hi & thanks for the update.
      I just wanted to say that I'd also prefer the cocoa powder over syrup.

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      Carleton H Smith on

      I for one would much rather have you focusing on bringing my next coffee beverage machine to market than dealing with any annoying negative distractions. The sooner it happens, the sooner I can enjoy my highly anticipated new creations that I am working on in my head already.

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      Thomas M. Reese on

      Hang in there guys -- you're doing a great job balancing all of the demands on your team!

    19. Abbas Raissi
      Superbacker
      on

      Thank you so much for the update and I am really looking forward to the final machine. Please don't change the powder compartment to the syrup.

    20. Chris Desforges on

      Thank you for sharing this thorough update. Please keep the bi-weekly updates on a regular schedule. Demonstrating consistency in the scheduled updates should reduce backer concerns and unproductive comments.

    21. Rob
      Superbacker
      on

      Thanks for the update, team Arist! It's great to see the progress you have made, as well as the challenges you are facing. No project comes without its fair share of hurdles, but it seems you are taking the right approach here. Glad to see that you are keeping a close eye on the budget. Please keep us updated as you go through this process.

      I can't wait to have my very own Arist!! Thank you for all of your hard work!

    22. Sharon Lang Borovay on

      My only concern with using chocolate syrup, as I don't think that there is "cocoa syrup", is that it leaves out those of us who want to use our own sweetener to sweeten the coffee. Every mocha would have to be with sugar. Chocolate syrup that is "sugar free" uses splenda, which I can't use.

    23. Marcio Camurati on

      Great update and great job! One suggestion create a regular 2 weeks update like other projects do here at Kickstarter.

      And one point for me here in Brazil the update of cocoa powder and sugar powder to container with cocoa syrup and white/brown sugar syrup will be very bad because here we don't have this type of syrup we only have the powder.

      I think that people who live in countries that will have this solidification problem can put less powder in the dispenser and the others can use it normally.

    24. Chris Nursey on

      Thanks for the update. Great job guys. I'm super excited!
      I think it would be an interesting option to allow the software to put multiple layers of coffee and milk (foam). Technically I don't know the mechanics of this. But even if the mechanics prohibits this it can be done by brewing multiple cups (iterations/recipes) into the same cup without a message to remove the cup in-between. It would be interesting to know the practical minimum brew quantity :-)
      I, for another, would also be disappointed to to lose powder (sugar) ability. I will in a dry climate and syrups taste different to regular sugar so will make the coffee taste different and that could be very disappointing. I encourage you to continue to look for solutions to this. You already have 2 dispensing units one for power and one for syrup, so i understand that some people may only be able to use one due to their location but it's worth pursuing for the rest of us. :-)

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      Kaz911 on

      Machine has already shrunk from 200g coffee beans to 100g per cartridge. And now coco and sugar disappearing? I would rather have NO syrup cartridge than loosing cocoa and sugar dispenser. I do not like syrup in my coffee and syrup's tend to be a LOT more unhealthy than standard sugar and cocoa powder.

    26. Eliott Mendelson on

      You requested suggestions for the software/firmware. Here is one issue that I do not think has bee addressed. Many machines of this type are plagued by calcification of the heating systems. It might be a good idea to do the following: 1. Determine the calcium level in the water being used in the system. 2. Then forecast the number or amount of water passing through the system based on the calcium level. 3. Notify the user when to de-calcify the system. 4. Provide a process for completing the de-calcifying of the system.

    27. Erik Wilgenhof Plante on

      Thanks for the long awaited updated. Communication is as important as getting the product finished at this stage. At least my concern about the milk container has been addressed. Without it I might as well buy a Nespresso or Krupps. It's exciting to see what will become of this! Keep up the good work and don't forget to enjoy CNY!

    28. Arist Creator on

      Thank you for the encouragement! It means a lot to us. We will try our best to make it the most awesome product!

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      David Adri on

      Please please please,
      Don't change from Cocoa powder to cocoa syrup! Let us choose if we want to use syrup or powder- and I want to use only powder!!!

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      H.Y.Kwee on

      Sounds great. Keep on the good work. Don't lose focus because of the critical contacts.

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      Dac
      Superbacker
      on

      Thanks for the update, guys! You're really doing something fantastic, and I'm incredibly excited to see the final product.

      Always remember that while there may be hurdles and changes that not everyone agrees with, at the end of the day you guys are creating an all-in-one mechanical barista, something that has never been done before. And you're doing it at a ridiculously low price, considering the cost and functionality of even the best home brewers out there.

      Don't ever be discouraged by people who complain here and there about this and that. It simply doesn't matter. As long as you deliver a product with the functionality you claim, you're doing everything right.

      Keep up the hard work. 99.9% of us think you're doing an incredible job.