An dieser Stelle kannst du dem Projektgründer gutes Gelingen wünschen, Fragen stellen und dich mit anderen Unterstützern austauschen. Wir bitten darum, den Austausch stets respektvoll und höflich zu halten! Danke!
Last login Sep 4 2014 - no one is getting their money back unless someone physically goes to the man and takes it out of his walled. Has proven to be a scum bag that does not log in, does not respond to e-mail and just does not care. He has out money and has disappeared.
Look at the Zano case
Kickstarter was forced to do something.
But an 2Million$ case makes more noise then 24.486$
So 1.171 Backers should open an case at Kickstarter.
They should check where the money gone.
And if there are only 7,000$ left…I take 33% of my money instead of loosing all.
As we approach the iPhone 7 with no audio port I guess you can keep my money and buy something to make yourself feel better. This seemed liked a simple task but I do understand and I forgive you for the failure. Better luck next time
Ron - Seriously... How about making good on your commitment to a refund. This is simply theft and your lack of response is cowardly and frankly disgusting!
I am so done with KS also. I have backed several projects and am done with getting for a ride. The Eclips wallet guys just bailed like Ron did with out a word.
Ron, First let me say thank you, albeit little communication, I personally accept your reasoning... do not give up on your dream. "A Man Without A Dream Is A Man Without Hope" I do *NOT* want a refund – risk of a project failure was something I assumed when pledging to this project. Quite frankly, I spend that about after a week visiting Starbucks! Stay strong, stay true to yourself and your project dream. Someday I hope to get a mail from you... with an awesome devices... and I'll smile, wonder what... remember... and say... "He did it!!"
Forget it everyone. KS is not going to do anything because we all agreed that they will not be held responsible for scamming and the fucker Ron won't respond. He's probably just sitting back enjoying his $24k dildo while reading our complaint.
I'm excited to announce! I have officially reported this to the FTC which looks like they are going to start looking into the campaigns that do there backers wrong.
I've backed dozens of projects on Kickstarter/Indiegogo and can honestly say for the most part I've had great experiences and have never posted in the comments section (in this manner) before. I'm a reasonable person and have come to terms that any "release date" set by someone crowd funding will be extended at some point. I can live with this. Even if a project fails I understand my role & the creators and could move on knowing I tried to help someone create an interesting project but it just didn't pan out. Reading through all the comments below it's hard to believe this is a simple case of a failed project. I was never thrilled with the updates but seeing the responses from others I think we can all agree this falls on the side of a "scam" crowdfunding attempt. While it's true that Kickstarter can not force a creator to refund money it is also true that numerous people have already been sued because of these "scam" projects when it becomes evident that very little truth can be found behind their entire process. If we could be given the respect we deserve, as people who blindly backed this project because we believed in it, then it would be an easier pill to swallow. I don't like being disrespected and I don't like being lied to. Even when "admitting defeat" and trying to appear humble we were given the line "I will be posting a secondary update soon which will outline how to officially request a refund. As with all previous updates this update will go out to all backers, so you will be notified once it is posted." but it's been 9 months and this secondary update has not come. I was not going to request a refund but after seeing the treatment of all the backers I am now. I know I will be ignored, like countless others, but I would like to join the ranks of all the others who have requested them as well in order to document how we were all mislead and there was never an attempt to finish this project. Luckily we live in the age of the internet where all this information is documented and will follow the creator if he ever attempts another project. I've already found this project on a number of lists/articles including Gizmodo's "worst crowdfunding scams" article. I will gladly change my tune and retract this comment if I am simply given the courtesy of an honest response.
Yes, John, This @$$ did say that he would refund but since he knows that he can get away with not giving a refund he is not going to. The only time he even responded to anyone and posted something is when someone would threaten bodily harm to him. I am not going to jail over what I gave him but we who knows who maybe pissed off enough to go after him, we may never know what people will do. (i.e, I live in a good area but one of my neighbors dog pooped in another neighbors yard and the guy shot him because he was pissed off, you just never know). Projects fail but Ron handled this in all the wrong way and could have avoided all the negativity if he was an upstanding guy. I personally think he is just a scam artist or he would have handled things sincerely and differently.
Just pickup a i-pin at this point. Since we haven't heard from Ron that seems like the logical thing to do. It does basically the same thing and serves dual purposes.
By the way.
I'm sorry for all of you that lost a lot of money on this I guess we have to take responsibility for the projects we praise and follow just as much as the creators themselves. It's ashame that this project is what it is. I would have liked to see it have more "success". Live and learn. And be more cautious of projects in the future. Or crowd funding in general.
If you did lose a boatload and would like to vent I'd certainly like to see it here. Without any violent remarks plz.
Note to everyone: take the loss and move on. Amazingly enought, this fucker is the only bastard who scammed me and KS won't do shit. Watch my language? If KS refunds me my money I will.
yup, well I've been a bit luckier, 3/12 projects were scams.. KICK STARTER should bear some responsibility on this. Once the current run of projects are delivered or been scammed out of me, I will close my Kickstarter accounts, Unless YOU KICK STARTER take some action, I suggest many of us scammed ones should do same...
Yes, a big "Thank You" for taking our money and running. No contact, no refunds, no product and no consideration for backers. Unless someone takes you Ron to court you get away with it. You are not welcome!!!. Projects fail and people are upfront about it but this is frankly just a scam clearly defined by the lack of contact. I love how we are to be respectful and considerate in our comments yet Ron is in now way considerate to his backers that have funded his vacation or whatever else he has spent the money on. What I would like to say to Ron I can't write in this post because it is far from respectful. I share this account with my father and don't wish to write anything that could reflect badly on him sincerely JC jr
Just noticed something funny. I am up to 63 projects. I have a lot who have delivered, some still raising funding, some experiencing delays and some working towards their delivery date. But I only have 1 project with a big Thank You on the cover page.
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Ältere Kommentare anzeigenAlan Karasin am October 20
What a con artist. Shameful!!
Kim Nicastro am June 6
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/the.ron.adair
JC am May 6, 2016
Last login Sep 4 2014 - no one is getting their money back unless someone physically goes to the man and takes it out of his walled. Has proven to be a scum bag that does not log in, does not respond to e-mail and just does not care. He has out money and has disappeared.
Huw J Long am May 5, 2016
Thought I'd have a peek to see if people are still asking for a refund :0)
AB-Proved
Superbacker
am April 30, 2016
Want my money back or an product !
Look at the Zano case
Kickstarter was forced to do something.
But an 2Million$ case makes more noise then 24.486$
So 1.171 Backers should open an case at Kickstarter.
They should check where the money gone.
And if there are only 7,000$ left…I take 33% of my money instead of loosing all.
I just clicked the "report this Project" Button
Michael wilson am March 29, 2016
As we approach the iPhone 7 with no audio port I guess you can keep my money and buy something to make yourself feel better. This seemed liked a simple task but I do understand and I forgive you for the failure. Better luck next time
Todd Cope am March 10, 2016
Phone Us.
805.705.2783
435.890.4439
Email Us.
chit-chat@adaircreativegroup.com
Todd Cope am March 10, 2016
Ron - Seriously... How about making good on your commitment to a refund. This is simply theft and your lack of response is cowardly and frankly disgusting!
kentikins am February 24, 2016
Ron Adair is a prick
JC am February 4, 2016
I am so done with KS also. I have backed several projects and am done with getting for a ride. The Eclips wallet guys just bailed like Ron did with out a word.
Warren Kane am January 30, 2016
won't and haven't invested in ks since this incident
Marc Mangold am December 31, 2015
So when do i get my pledge back?
Brian am November 7, 2015
Just going to put this here - https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/06/crowdfunding-project-creator-settles-ftc-charges-deception
PLEASE fill this out - https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted… This will help get our money back
Ziggy am November 4, 2015
Hey Rob Barba You're an idiot like this thief and liar.
Ziggy am November 4, 2015
Hey Rob Barba…you're a fucking idiot and chump. No wonder you like this fucking thief and liar.
Ziggy am November 4, 2015
This guy is a liar and a thief! We've been robbed.
Huw J Long am November 1, 2015
@ Noah give him a ring if you want
Telephone
805.705.2783
Email
ron.adair@iamron.com
Huw J Long am November 1, 2015
Why do I keep looking on this page :0)
Robert Erlick
Superbacker
am October 20, 2015
Amazingly disappointing.
Jimmy Hudson am September 25, 2015
Iphone 6S came out today. Which phone was this originally created for?
George Dunye am September 13, 2015
Wonder if something like this would work!
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/253471/State_court_orders_Kickstarted_game_creator_to_pay_54k_for_failing_to_deliver.php
Noah am September 5, 2015
Wow. What a piece of shit this guy turned out to be... anyone know his address so my lawyer can send him some paperwork?
mashdots am September 3, 2015
I am here to mention that as of tomorrow, it will have been one whole year since Ron has logged into Kickstarter. Three cheers for integrity, people.
Brian am August 28, 2015
Hey Rob can I start a project and feed you bs and you throw money at the screen?
Rob Barba am August 14, 2015
Ron, First let me say thank you, albeit little communication, I personally accept your reasoning... do not give up on your dream. "A Man Without A Dream Is A Man Without Hope" I do *NOT* want a refund – risk of a project failure was something I assumed when pledging to this project. Quite frankly, I spend that about after a week visiting Starbucks! Stay strong, stay true to yourself and your project dream. Someday I hope to get a mail from you... with an awesome devices... and I'll smile, wonder what... remember... and say... "He did it!!"
Eric Mourant
Superbacker
am August 11, 2015
Very disappointed.
Apit C L am June 29, 2015
Forget it everyone. KS is not going to do anything because we all agreed that they will not be held responsible for scamming and the fucker Ron won't respond. He's probably just sitting back enjoying his $24k dildo while reading our complaint.
Daniel Arevalo am June 27, 2015
Complaint: 63225020
Antonio Reyna am June 25, 2015
My complain: 63177254
I hope this works :)
Kim Nicastro am June 22, 2015
I'm in
62979099
Ron
Superbacker
am June 20, 2015
Thanks Brian
just submitted, here is my reference number 62963766
Warren Kane am June 13, 2015
Submitted an FTC complaint as well.
mashdots am June 12, 2015
FTC Complaint Submitted by me as well. Reference number: 62757295.
Brian am June 11, 2015
FTC Complaint Submitted - Your reference number is: 62734351
Brian am June 11, 2015
to help report this go to https://ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1
I did mine under https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted…
Brian am June 11, 2015
I'm excited to announce! I have officially reported this to the FTC which looks like they are going to start looking into the campaigns that do there backers wrong.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/06/11/the-ftcs-first-crowdfunding-enforcement-is-over-a-failed-board-game-on-kickstarter/
When I heard about this I was fast on reporting this Ron Guy.
Sorry Ron but I hope you get what comes to you legally. Karma is a Bitch!
Thomas McCarthy am May 26, 2015
I've backed dozens of projects on Kickstarter/Indiegogo and can honestly say for the most part I've had great experiences and have never posted in the comments section (in this manner) before. I'm a reasonable person and have come to terms that any "release date" set by someone crowd funding will be extended at some point. I can live with this. Even if a project fails I understand my role & the creators and could move on knowing I tried to help someone create an interesting project but it just didn't pan out. Reading through all the comments below it's hard to believe this is a simple case of a failed project. I was never thrilled with the updates but seeing the responses from others I think we can all agree this falls on the side of a "scam" crowdfunding attempt. While it's true that Kickstarter can not force a creator to refund money it is also true that numerous people have already been sued because of these "scam" projects when it becomes evident that very little truth can be found behind their entire process. If we could be given the respect we deserve, as people who blindly backed this project because we believed in it, then it would be an easier pill to swallow. I don't like being disrespected and I don't like being lied to. Even when "admitting defeat" and trying to appear humble we were given the line "I will be posting a secondary update soon which will outline how to officially request a refund. As with all previous updates this update will go out to all backers, so you will be notified once it is posted." but it's been 9 months and this secondary update has not come. I was not going to request a refund but after seeing the treatment of all the backers I am now. I know I will be ignored, like countless others, but I would like to join the ranks of all the others who have requested them as well in order to document how we were all mislead and there was never an attempt to finish this project. Luckily we live in the age of the internet where all this information is documented and will follow the creator if he ever attempts another project. I've already found this project on a number of lists/articles including Gizmodo's "worst crowdfunding scams" article. I will gladly change my tune and retract this comment if I am simply given the courtesy of an honest response.
Aaron Gustafson am May 25, 2015
I'd like a refund.
Garrett D. am May 23, 2015
for anyone interested, Ron's LinkedIn account is still active, https://www.linkedin.com/pub/ron-adair/4/62a/170
JC am May 13, 2015
Yes, John, This @$$ did say that he would refund but since he knows that he can get away with not giving a refund he is not going to. The only time he even responded to anyone and posted something is when someone would threaten bodily harm to him. I am not going to jail over what I gave him but we who knows who maybe pissed off enough to go after him, we may never know what people will do. (i.e, I live in a good area but one of my neighbors dog pooped in another neighbors yard and the guy shot him because he was pissed off, you just never know). Projects fail but Ron handled this in all the wrong way and could have avoided all the negativity if he was an upstanding guy. I personally think he is just a scam artist or he would have handled things sincerely and differently.
John Hitchins am May 12, 2015
Didn't he say a while back he was going to give refunds?
Sipke Wagenaar am May 3, 2015
Dear Ron,
Is there any news? We are some iPhones further, but still want the mutator.
David Xavier am April 30, 2015
Just pickup a i-pin at this point. Since we haven't heard from Ron that seems like the logical thing to do. It does basically the same thing and serves dual purposes.
By the way.
I'm sorry for all of you that lost a lot of money on this I guess we have to take responsibility for the projects we praise and follow just as much as the creators themselves. It's ashame that this project is what it is. I would have liked to see it have more "success". Live and learn. And be more cautious of projects in the future. Or crowd funding in general.
If you did lose a boatload and would like to vent I'd certainly like to see it here. Without any violent remarks plz.
Brian am April 4, 2015
Actually this guy should get put in jail for grand larceny plus kickstarter and this creator should be sued
Apit C L am March 31, 2015
Note to everyone: take the loss and move on. Amazingly enought, this fucker is the only bastard who scammed me and KS won't do shit. Watch my language? If KS refunds me my money I will.
frank greco am March 21, 2015
yup, well I've been a bit luckier, 3/12 projects were scams.. KICK STARTER should bear some responsibility on this. Once the current run of projects are delivered or been scammed out of me, I will close my Kickstarter accounts, Unless YOU KICK STARTER take some action, I suggest many of us scammed ones should do same...
JC am March 16, 2015
Yes, a big "Thank You" for taking our money and running. No contact, no refunds, no product and no consideration for backers. Unless someone takes you Ron to court you get away with it. You are not welcome!!!. Projects fail and people are upfront about it but this is frankly just a scam clearly defined by the lack of contact. I love how we are to be respectful and considerate in our comments yet Ron is in now way considerate to his backers that have funded his vacation or whatever else he has spent the money on. What I would like to say to Ron I can't write in this post because it is far from respectful. I share this account with my father and don't wish to write anything that could reflect badly on him sincerely JC jr
Brandon McAlary am March 14, 2015
All that aside. This is now 3 out of 7 projects I have backed that have taken the money and run.
Brandon McAlary am March 14, 2015
Well Ron, weren't you raised to thank others for $24,486 gifts/vacations
Ron
Superbacker
am March 14, 2015
Just noticed something funny. I am up to 63 projects. I have a lot who have delivered, some still raising funding, some experiencing delays and some working towards their delivery date. But I only have 1 project with a big Thank You on the cover page.