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The ultimate asymmetric cave-crawling adventure where you become the brave Knight, Goblin horde, massive Dragon, or malevolent Cave.
The ultimate asymmetric cave-crawling adventure where you become the brave Knight, Goblin horde, massive Dragon, malevolent Cave, or cunning Thief.
The ultimate asymmetric cave-crawling adventure where you become the brave Knight, Goblin horde, massive Dragon, malevolent Cave, or cunning Thief.
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Vast: The Crystal Caverns

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Assuming no other legal complications I am changing Trove: The Crystal Caverns to - Vast: The Crystal Caverns. Timothy Carr appears to be the first person to mention Vast. Nice work sir I will contact you soon about your reward.

I am very excited about this title. The Cave is a Vast place for the Knight to explore, the Goblins to hide, the thief to Scurry, and the Dragon’s Vast treasures to be stashed. But more importantly it represents the Vast possibility of the series.

The other exciting news is that editing is complete and all the files are at the printer or getting ready to go to the printer! Within the next couple of days everything should be wrapped up and I will have the hard job of waiting to see my game in hand. I'm so excited to see the finished product! I will send another update once the printer creates a timeline but we are attempting to get the games into the US in July.

Here is the new cover. Thanks and I will talk to you all soon!

I wrote a longer post but just decided to cut it down to the facts. If you want to read the whole thing you can here:

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/22326053#22326053

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      Charlotte on April 8, 2016

      Forgot to say that I'm really excited about receiving the game in summer.
      And again: Really good solution for the awkward business of changing an already well-established (among the backers) game name!
      If I were to pick this up in a store, I'd definitely be intrigued and want to buy the game.

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      Charlotte on April 8, 2016

      I was super sceptical about the rebranding, but I really like the mock-up for the new box cover. Even though I would have preferred keeping the original name, I think that Vast is a good choice!

      I don't mind the dragon's chin either, or rather I don't see what's wrong with it.

    3. Marcel Metter on April 8, 2016

      What about the opportunity to offer a download of the olod box cover for self-printing?
      There's no lawyer in my shelf looking through my games.
      Or the "The" above the "Vast", making it "The Vast Crystal Caverns".
      All the letters in the same size like now, so that "Vast" is still the Main Title, but it could be read smoother as a sentence.

    4. Chuck
      Superbacker
      on April 8, 2016

      "Vast" sounds funny! And not "Funny as in Hahahaha"...but "Funny as in weird and it doesn't feel/sound right".

      Sorry...I'm just being honest. Had the name been "The Vast Trove: Crystal Caverns"...I would have been Ok with that as it rolls off the tongue better. This just sounds awkward!

    5. ionas on April 7, 2016

      RandomEnglishWord ^_^

    6. David Caldwell on April 7, 2016

      I also prefer the original name. Who asked you to change it? Trion? They have a video game named Trove...

    7. ionas on April 7, 2016

      I like how it bugs me… the chin I mean.
      For the name… bleh.

    8. Timothy Carr on April 7, 2016

      I want it on the record that having become accustomed to calling the game "Trove" for so long, it's currently really hard to picture it as "Vast" despite it being my suggestion. I think as we all became attached to the game we also all became attached to the original name and, again, I'm sorry you were asked to change it. I think a somewhat mixed reaction would've been expected regardless of which new name was chosen (of which you had several equally fantastic choices to pick from). There were many other catchy/appropriate suggestions I would've personally supported wholeheartedly as well, but they'd never be the name I had come to associate the game with.

      That said and done... I'm incredibly excited and honored that you settled on "Vast"! Despite what I just said, I obviously wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think it would make a good name. I can't tell you how shocked I was to see it do so well, let alone become official! I'm dumbfounded, proud, and a wee bit giddy! So thank you. Thanks for letting the community try to help you out of an unfortunate situation, in which my suggestion was simply lucky enough to stick. I'm very glad you are excited about the title, and (although I'm biased) I think once we're used to calling it "Vast: The Crystal Caverns" it will work very well for you going forward!

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      Liam Granbery on April 7, 2016

      Sorry, I really prefer Trove.

      I'm sorry that you were approached and asked to change it.

    10. Mist_Wave on April 7, 2016

      I'm curious to know when we will complete the survey, like the adress we want it ship etc.

    11. Carlos D
      Superbacker
      on April 7, 2016

      Great name. However, similarly to what other fellow backers have stated -- the intersection of text and chin kind of bugs me.

    12. JKP
      Superbacker
      on April 7, 2016

      Vast doesn't blow me away but I agree that Vast: Crystal Caverns is better.

    13. rowe33 on April 6, 2016

      Bleh, not a fan of the name at all but looking forward to playing the game nonetheless!

    14. Stephen Palmer on April 6, 2016

      Yep I agree with Ben on the whole Vast: Crystal Caverns naming. I think it sounds just a bit better and leaves it open for naming of future expansions. But I don't know how to feel about the dragon's chin, cause I love how it looks, but the way the "T" intersects with it just . . . I don't know.

    15. Ben Turner
      Superbacker
      on April 6, 2016

      The game still looks amazing, that's the key thing. The name is OK, I guess. I feel it should have been a noun (e.g. NOUN: the crystal caverns) - VAST / ADJECTIVE: the crystal caverns sounds a little odd.

      But a rose (or in this case, an asymmetrical game with beautiful art and great gameplay) still smells as sweet - look forward to getting the final version

    16. Edward
      Superbacker
      on April 6, 2016

      Awesome update and congrats Timothy!!
      Going with Vast I think "Vast: Crystal Caverns" flows a bit better than "Vast: The Crystal Caverns"
      Works better without the article and for future expansions would be just as good, in my personal opinion:
      Vast: Plains of Despair!, Vast: Oceans of Gold, etc...

      *posted in both locations*

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      Brett Alan Miller on April 6, 2016

      I agree about the dragon chin, it's borderline a tangent. At first I didn't notice it - but now I can't stop seeing it

    18. Ethan Furman
      Superbacker
      on April 6, 2016

      Great name!

    19. Paul Johnson on April 6, 2016

      That chin just doesn't work. The name itself is starting to grow on me, but the dragon's chin is just right there...