by Patrick Leder
@Kory I believe they said they will not be stitched. @Miguel there were a lot of folks who had warped boards of the previous printings. Playmats I guess are nicer to play on, and you wouldn't have a problem with them warping at all
While I see that having both sides printed adds value of course. If the playmats are double sided wouldn’t they move around a lot? I have another playmat and the non-playing side is made from anti-slip material. If these are anything like the one I have, then having both sides printed would make the board move around on the table rather easily (in a bad, everything gets scrambled, kind of way), no?
No details as to the size? I hope this is given before end of KS or very least before PM.
Glad the WA meeples were acknowledged but disappointed they won’t be until “later”.
Are these the same size as the normal board? Curious if they'd fit in the box rolled up.
@Pier they already addressed why there are no stretch goals in this Kickstarter in one of their other updates.
That would have been a nice touch if it were to be added as a Stretch Goal. I already pledged for the expansion and added top dollar for the upgrade kit and the bots. Why there is no stretch goals in this campaign? Will you be adding something before it ends?
I've not been able to find an answer to the several queries about the neoprene map sizes. I too hope they will be a bit larger than the card game boards.
Double sided printing doesn't matter. Again i'd like to reference TMB.
Granted that the edges would be slightly raised, but in a non-impactful way.
Only the outer rim would be ever so slightly raised and there are no game components on the board's edge.
I'll stop talking about this now, since I'll be getting the playmats either way. It's just that I found Patrick's argument against stitching hard to believe.
Do you know what actually doesn't lay down real well? The current carboard map that comes with the core game. haha. J/K ;-)
Wish I could afford to add these, but I've gotta save for the Blood on the Clocktower Kickstarter at the end of the month. :(
@Dimi It's probably because they're double sided.
@Patrick I'm really happy for the playmats, but I find it hard to believe what you are saying about edge stitching.
How can they not lay down well? Look at Too Many Bones. That game has loads of neoprene mats with edge stitching and they all lay flat nicely. Those mats are even smaller than the ones you are making, so if stitching had any impact it would be more apparent on those.
Perhaps your mats are thinner or made of a different material?
One of the biggest benefits of these neoprene mats is they grip the table nicely, and I worry that this benefit will be lost with double-sided maps. Is this something you've looked into/tested? In my experience, the printed side of these mats slides around even worse than a regular board.
Where do i go to increase my pledge?
Vivien - :P Me too!
Stitching - We tried it and it didn't lay down real well.
+1 for edge stitching for the playmats.
Play mats are a welcome addition to the game :) Would it be possible to have stitching around the boarders for extra durability ?
I just realized ... if folks get the Expansion, get just 1 playmat, you could have 2 parallel games going. There are enough factions for two 4-player games. One will use the standard deck, and the other, the Exiles deck. PNP the quest items on the board, get 2 d12s and off you go!
Did I miss anything?
Holy cow! Proud to be part of this campaign. And oh my goodness --- playmats! This might be the only game I'll purchase playmats for.
And CONGRATULATIONS !!! Love the game! And the wooden Meeple insert!
I request that the new mats be larger so when playing with 4-5 players there is more room. Other games increased the size of their boards/mats and I love it!
My other request is for more stuffed critters for purchase like the Raccoon vagabond.
hehe I was funnin'
@Rotshrek @Patrick Leder - Oh cool. That sounds cute.
I would also like to know the size of the mats as @breezingthrough also asked.
I’d hope they’d be offered during a Root KS!!
I really hope the WA meeples don’t become a promo somewhere.
Vivien - 4 sided like a box?
Luke - There are designs for a rabbit and fox meeple out there we dropped for useability reasons. Many people have asked them, but I have a more logical place to insert them later on
@Luke Venables We´ve been asking for foxes and rabbits meeples for the alliance (as were depicted in the original KS). And while I´m glad they acknowledged our plea, I´m sad it won´t come until 'later'. I´m guessing next KS campaign? 2020?
I've looked through the comments but I can't find what Patrick is referring to regarding "variant Woodland Alliance Meeples". What are people asking for? I'm curious. Is there a problem with the current Toast design?
you could save your backers a few dollars by releasing all the maps on a single 4-sided playmat. please consider it.
This is good.
Will the mat fit in the box rolled?
Or will it need to be folded to fit or live outside the box?
Also, I for one do not need SGs to feel the need to support a project I want to succeed.
You told us what we get and what we get as a thank you for buying early that will cost others more later... I was satisfied and gave my $ . . . done.
@Tim yes and that was when the funding goal was $25k we are now 4000% higher than that goal and nothing at all has been added to the game as a thanks. Sorry but I don’t see the how the pittance of any SG makes this a value for me.
Congratulations, success well deserved!
@Ken: Because they added the Stretch Goals from the very beginning (extra deck, vagabond meeples...).
Size of mats? Please
HBG - Nah they will ship in a tube.
You should be sharing the love to be truthful. The lack of any stretch goals especially for the meeples is disheartening. Not sure why you decided to forgo any stretch goals.
Root is the "Fables de La Fontaine" of board games, a overview of the acting social forces, a comedy of nature it has the right content and the right form, that puts things into perspective, that's why... ;)
Yassss! My board keeps warping lol
Awesome!! Can we have wooden tokens with sticker on each side next?
Please add an add-on for the new dice to be ordered separately. By popular demand by me. :)
@Leder Games - How will the mats be shipped? I'm afraid that they will be folded and get some wrinkles that won't go flat again. Edge-stitching would be awesome as well.
Yay for mats!!
Yes, playmats are more durable for people who play a lot. They are also easier to set up. They also feel a lot better to the touch, and have more friction to the table and to the pieces that are placed on it, so there will be lessened confusion from accidental bumps and stuff.
It's just a preference thing. I prefer to have it easy to pack and bring with me, so having the board IN the box is better for me. I do really like playmats, but not for %25 each. But to some people who like them more than you or I, it's definitely worth $25.
Fantastic! Added in for the playmats. Glad to hear about the WA variant meeples down the line. Any chance of double-sided meeples as a stretch goal or addon? I think the birds, lizards, crows, and moles would all look great double-sided and I would be happy to pay for that on my copy.
Are the playmats going to be the same size as the board? Or a larger "deluxe" size like some other companies do?
Will the edges be sewn on the playmats? I hope so, would be a nice touch
Out of curiosity, what's the draw on the playmats? The box is already pretty cramped for space and it's unclear to me what value having the playmats provides compared to the original board? Is it just a matter of the playmats being more durable if you're planning on playing dozens of times?