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      Creator 6mmWar on April 12

      I see things are really moving over here...

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on March 30

      So now that the month is ending, Mike will either be using his paycheck to refund backers or bring us the goods through an as yet unnamed publisher? :P

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      Creator Kelly Shane Kuciemba on March 6

      I am guilty of kicking this man while he's been down, and I'm sorry. I have very little skin in this game, and am not financially devastated by losing the 40$. Out of boredom or frustration, unrelated to an RPG book, I enjoyed seeing worse off than me suffer a little. This was wrong. I think this concept has a lot of merit, and am disappointed it wasn't realized. So what. If it happens a book is manufactured, I'll get my 'mcguffin' and that will be it. If not, that money is long gone, and forgotten. I'm not going to comment on his latest update. I'm not gonna say 'hey everything is better now, let's be friends again'. I turned my back and that's where it is. I doubt I'll ever see my copy of the book, but maybe he can still create this game someday, and that would be good for everyone!

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      Creator 6mmWar on February 26

      $35,038 pledged of $1,000 goal. Never forget.

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      Creator Kelly Shane Kuciemba on February 16

      We own this since he has defaulted. Each backer owns % based on investment. This dwarf syndicate shall therefore.... well there is no actual product or inventory and no one could afford to sue anyone who wants to use this now open source

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      Creator Troy Baker on February 11

      @ Gary Beason on Jan 25
      You've correctly summarised the best ideas from 'Axes & Anvils' and I think they could still be salvaged from this mess. Personally I was disappointed by Mike's first drafts as they seemed to miss the vision he had outlined - however the work of others (Andrew, et al) brought things back on track. I'll be fair; Mike gets credit for the initial idea, but Andrew and others did the heavy lifting.

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      Creator 6mmWar on February 7

      Why work when can you spend that time dreaming up some new way to scam people out of money? Why take responsibility for your failures when you can just shrug your shoulders knowing full well there is no recourse for the people you stole from? Sell his own material possessions to pay us back...the nerve! He had to scam over 1100 people out of their hard earned money, that is work that should be rewarded!

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      Creator Chris Perkins on February 7

      @Kelly: Good luck getting a refund out of Mike Nystul. I agree with you, in that he SHOULD be working in order to issue refunds to all of those he has ripped off. Even if he is working part-time, he should be able to scrape together a little money each week to begin the process of reimbursing backers.
      At the same time I'm sure that he has RPG books and materials that he could sell off in order to reimburse those he bilked of their hard-earned money.
      He owes it to us to complete this project (which is not going to happen) or issue refunds. Sadly neither KS nor Amazon can do anything to resolve this... which is why I no longer back KS projects unless a project's creator has a proven history of delivering on their promises.

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      Creator Kelly Shane Kuciemba on February 7

      Thanks. I felt that I would be satisfied with a digital version of the promised RPG. There is no excuse for that work to have not been completed over a year ago. I have never asked for a refund, I'm asking now. I understand that everyone feels that wont happen. But I have publically and personally requested my refund, I'd like that paid in cash. Send to the address, you have it ALEX MIKE NYSTUL GRAY. That is 60$, I wont charge interest for converting my HARD EARNED MONEY, ON MY FEET for HOURS 5 NIGHTS a WEEK!!! And pursue my dreams of this or that, you follow? With your Mc Donalds paycheck, you can set aside $5 per check, and send cash please. That is doable. One pledge at a time if that's what it takes. I'd do it. What else would you be doing for the next 3 months?

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      Creator Kristian Hartmann on February 7

      @Kelly
      You won't get any refund ever as Mike is broke and has no money left.

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      Creator Kelly Shane Kuciemba on February 6

      I'd like a full refund please

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      Creator Gary Beason on January 24

      Thanks, Paul. The draft PDF from last July certainly has holes, but in studying it to come up with my take on sheets, I found a playable game that had some of why I funded the project. It's a beer-and-pretzels game with some ideas for treating a clan like a character. Mike has good ideas, which I don't think many question. I understand that he had a passion for this game and has a lot of personal investment. But as progress on this seems dead, giving the game to the community might be best. I love Andrew's intro adventure, his ideas for creating mountain path adventures, and GM-less mode.

      I don't know what Mike had planned for the game, but in reading the drafts about dwarven time and culture, I found them okay but unnecessary. But at the time I hoped the lack of progress on the doc wasn't because of these kinds of topics. The core rules need filling in, some rework, expansion, and cleanup. Putting out something like the FAE rulebook would be a good goal. Get the essentials for playing the game and put aside the peripheral stuff. It's discouraging that we've not seen anything building on the draft from last summer. Mike posted a couple of times that he had made edits and changes to the July draft. Even posting those changes would be something.

      I'm not trying to be a pollyanna. I had pretty much walked away from this, but when my son asked about it, I thought, geez, it would be good to get something out of this. Unfortunately, I think Andrew's participation was the best shot at that, but he's no longer contributing.

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      Creator Paul Bachleda on January 23

      Hats off to Gary for the character sheet. Honestly, I think that's the best route to seeing anything tangible come from this Kickstarter. At this point, Nystul has no reason to fulfill anything. Our best bet is that he comes to his senses and just puts out what work he has completed on Axes and Anvils and we finish it ourselves. Let it be a running collaborative process so people that give a shit have something positive to take away from what's turned out to be an enormous embarrassment in crowd-funding history.

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      Creator Savage Robby on January 23

      Civility?
      What is civil about lying?
      What is civil about theft?

      For the record, my mom would probably advise me to punch Mike in the mouth. Or sue him. Or both. But he's not worth the time or effort to do either. He's barely worth checking in here periodically -- but truth be told, the train wreck is so rich, it is hard not to, if only for entertainment value.

      As for those who think the negativity is going to hurt his "productivity" - c'mon really? When things were rosy and bright, what did he produce? Ah right, I remember. A crappy draft document. That's it. And we were the lucky ones - he didn't produce crap for his other two projects.

      So spare me the lecture. Mike deserves every ounce of public shame and negativity he gets. If he had the sense of a doorknob he'd just shut it down and say "I can't do it" - but I have a sneaking suspicious that he actually thrives off the negative attention. After all, at the end of the day, it _is_ attention.

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      Creator Chris Perkins on January 23

      @Luke: Mike took backer funds and, rather than use them to publish "nearly finished" RPG books (as he claimed he would do), spent it on starting up a company that employed himself and his friends. That misuse of funds borders on embezzlement and warrants the ire of his projects' backers. He is obligated by his agreement with us and Kickstarter to fulfill his backer rewards or issue refunds. Until he does so he is, literally, in our debt.

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on January 23

      Well, nothing is going to help Mike finish this project. He can't. At most we'll get a PDF. If Mike isn't prepared for a bit of negativity considering he's blown roughly $75k over Infinite Dungeon, Cairn and Axes & Anvils, and my opinion hurts his ability to write... well I don't really know what to say. Civility is reasonable and respectful behavior. I don't see anyone being particularly disrespectful or unreasonable, apart from Mike who has flitted away all this money with no explanation and a "deal with it" attitude. I'm pretty sure my mother would have harsher words for someone who has absconded with that amount of money. :P

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      Creator Luke Stowell on January 22

      Wow, I love internet manners. I mean, I am as pissed as anybody else having lost $170 between this and Cairn but all this negativity is not going to help Mr. Nystul to finish this book. In fact it may be working against you in more ways than one. When I see things like what are said on the internet, I ask myself where is the civility and what would your mother think?

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      Creator Marius Bredsdorff on January 21

      I simply can't be arsed with this any more.
      I'm done with checking on this Kickstarter. It's clear that it will never happen and it seems unlikely that you'll be able to refund me my money.
      Mr Nystul, if you win the lottery or something, I expect you to reimburse me my 117$.
      If you don't, just go on with your life. I'll make my own dwarf game if I feel the need to play one.

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on January 16

      Well sure you can clarify. You can clarify what you pissed our money away on. You can clarify what progress is being made. You can clarify what exactly you are going to deliver beyond a PDF of rules that were apparently finished long ago. So yeah, tell us more.

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      Creator 6mmWar on January 15

      You are suppose to deliver.

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      Creator Mike Nystul on January 14

      So I wasn't supposed to clarify? Ok.

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      Creator Savage Robby on January 14

      Maybe our stuff is at TSR, too. ;)

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on January 12

      Now that we've cleared that up, where's our stuff?

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      Creator Mike Nystul on January 10

      I was a playtester of the L series with my entire family - our GM was Len "Leomund" Lakoffka. We all submitted spells. There were more than just that one that got the family name attached to it. I went pro young - my first work was for Dragon. I worked freelance for years then in house for several large companies eventually including TSR. It was nice to be around back then - I was certainly never one of the core group - they were all in Lake Geneva.

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      Creator leperkhaun on January 10

      I wish i had done some research before i bought into this.

      http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php…

      Importantly: http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php…

      Which seems that Mike Nystul isnt the Nystul from the spell, at least according to Gygax it was named after his father (Gygax posted under the name Col_Pladoh). kaskoid is Tim kask who was an actual play tester/designer for Gygax during the time Mike claims to be the one who had the spell named after him. It seems like that perhaps some of the big names from the start of DnD where he makes it seem like he was playtesting/designing he might have just been a kid tagging along with people his father knew.

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      Creator Chris Perkins on January 4

      With 509 backers getting, at best, a pdf valued at $10... Mike is left owing backers over $29,000. What he should be doing at this point is finding ANY means of reimbursing all backers who contributed more than $10.
      Even if he scraped together $75/week (which should be possible, even on a McDonald's salary) it would be a start. Stop with the excuses and own up to your obligations.

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      Creator Savage Robby on January 3

      Heh. That's funny. :)

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on January 2

      Everyone got their New Years resolutions? I thought about making one where I would give everyone what they were due or owed, but it doesn't apply to me. Then I thought about providing excuses for material that was claimed to be in existence a year ago, but that doesn't apply to me. So I figured I'll go to McDonald's as that's where serious thoughts and ideas are developed. I'll keep you posted.

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      Creator Gary Beason on December 30

      With my son asking about this game (since I donated on his behalf), I decided to try running a game based on the rough draft from July, as well as Andrew's responses on the forums and elsewhere. So, I created the following character sheet with a summary of combat, health, and tests/resolve. The idea is to create one for each role. Doing this sort of thing helps me review the rules, which are not clear on some points.

      I'd like to do a similar sheet for the clan.

      If folks are interested, you can try it out or give feedback. I realize folks might consider this a waste of time, but I'm trying to see if there's enough in what we have to get some gaming out of it.

      https://app.box.com/axesanvilscharsheet

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      Creator Mike Nystul on December 17

      I have made progress. Cairn is with SoulJar and I have worked with Ross on it - it looks awesome. The Dungeon is with D3 - Jeff is laying it out. A playable draft of A&A was posted to Backers.

      I have NO job. My situation has gone from bad to worse and yeah - I have tried to write at McDonalds, I failed. I'm not sure if you are a writer but man, its not like i need to court the muse but there is a point where yes - as things stand I am in no position to do anything reliably but try to survive. Obviously I didnt think I would be here when i started out - I thought I would have a company and be working with some old friends. It didn't work out that way,

      I understand your anger - I do - I'd be pissed too. I am looking forward to getting past the crap to a place where i can show you what i can do - what i have done in the past and will do in the future.

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      Creator leperkhaun on December 17

      he just posted an update. its the same thing. Honestly lets take a look at the situation. he has had a long time with his projects. I think the problem is he lacks the ability to be responsible. Lets take a look at it honestly. He has three failed projects, This, Cairn and the infinite dungeon. he hasnt made ANY progress with any of them and thats after he basically gave cairn to someone else to finish. now when this first happened i was tempted to put it down to poor money management skills.

      however its been shown thats simply not the case. Lets say he has a full time job and works 40 hours a week. If thats the case then he has two off days a week to do nothing but sit down and write. This is NOT including the probably 3-4 hours a day he could spend on the days he is working.

      If perhaps he was making progress on his other project, the infinite dungeon, i wouldnt be so angry, since he would have been completing projects in the order he started them. But nope he hasnt done anything at all with that.

      In my mind he has not made a good faith effort. I dont care about art. give me a world thats full of life and solid rule mechanics. But he has not even done that. What has he done with all his extra time? even working TWO jobs he could still do this.

      His problem is lack of disciple and lack of responsibility.

      unfortunately we paid the price for trusting his name.

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      Creator Kevin Johnston on December 17

      So... how's this train wreck progressing?

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      Creator Chris Perkins on December 15

      @Toby: Agreed. Everyone who pledged above $10 should have a way to recoup their pledge (-$10), as a PDF is likely to be the only reward that will ever goes out.
      Mike is in a bad spot and, in some ways, I feel badly for him but he was reckless with OUR money and needs to be held accountable for his actions. If his debt to us were to a financial institution, creditor, etc he could claim bankruptcy and have his assets liquidated so that his debts could be discharged (to some degree). As it is, I see no way for him to make good on his considerable debt to us.

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      Creator Toby Evers on December 15

      So, what's the chance of getting money back here, from a legal standpoint? Whilst it's pledging to back a project, if there is jo project, then it's not pledging, it's a scam.

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      Creator 6mmWar on December 3

      The problem is...inaction has spoken louder than words at this point. Inaction funded at 35 times the initial goal. Mismanagement, lack of focus and other sketchy crowdfunding attempts on top of your inaction is what is screaming loudly at the backers of all your projects...

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      Creator Chris Perkins on December 3

      @ Mike Nystul: As someone who contribute $80 to this KS project, and $75 to The Infinite Dungeon project, I feel cheated. Whatever your intentions, you took and misspent tens of thousands of dollars from backers and have offered nothing but excuses in return.

      Thankfully d3adventures salvaged the Infinite Dungeon project after it tanked due to your mismanagement. Likewise SoulJar appears to have rescued the Cairn project. In fact it looks like the folks at SoulJar are using their own funds to fulfill backer rewards after you squandered all of that project's funds.

      At this point I wish you could have handed this project off. You have no way of honoring any reward beyond the $10 level. Even IF you somehow manage to produce a professional-quality pdf 408 backers will receive rewards that fall below their backer-level. Only the fortunate 101 backers who pledged solely for the pdf will have their pledge honored... if you ever manage to complete this.

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      Creator Kobayashi on December 3

      What is cristal clear is that you stole money from me and other people : that is the bottom line. An incomplete pdf and a year of whining, no matter how entertaining, does not cut it. You made your bed, now sleep in it. Every potential employer will search for you online and I think he will end up here. I don't mind giving 40$ to a charity but at least I want to choose it and the Nystul Whine-o-rama is not one of them.

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      Creator Mike Nystul on December 2

      Yes. Like that. It happens. Why have I responded? Because what I am doing right now is working on a laptop and it takes very little time to respond - so I have. Because this does matter to me and it is a priority I have made the time. Since you have made it very clear nothing I can say to you will change your mind I guess I won't bother responding to you from here on in but it isn't because I am uninterested in doing so. But for others that may be reading this - yes - this is still important to me and there are in fact reasons why it has not been completed. At this point it doesn't matter who believes me. It is what it is and actions speak louder than words but it has also been made very clear to me that silence on these issues is not what most of the backers want so I will communicate what I can when I can.

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      Creator Savage Robby on December 2

      Ah, you mean like its been your "top priority" for the last year before issues?

      Sorry - there is nothing you can say that will make me take you seriously. Its all talk, all the time. Heck, if things are so dire, why do you respond minutes after I posted? Don't you have something more important to do? Survival, or writing a game, or fleecing some other unfortunates or something?

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      Creator Mike Nystul on December 2

      I have shown. I posted a working version of the rules a while back. I have posted art all along. I posted some developmental stuff on specific topics. There has been movement and it has been shown. I did not get the job and my situation became worse. Instead of spending the month working on the game I had other more pressing priorities. Those priorities are all about survival. When I get past that and even relatively stable my pre-existing commitments such as this project are my top priority.

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      Creator Savage Robby on December 2

      Really? Then what work do you have to show? Oh, that's right. Nothing.

      Even just a month ago you posted: "Looks like I may be employed as of the end of November which gives me most of November to get a playable game to you guys. That seems like a reasonable objective." Uh huh.

      If you _actually_ cared, you'd have something to show other than a years of excuses and failures. Instead, all you offer is the same ole, same ole. "I'm working on it. Really. I want to show you something ... uh ... soon. Really. This time it's different. Really. I just have problems in the way. Again. Really. But I'm going to produce something, this time. Really. I swear."

      Please.

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      Creator Mike Nystul on December 2

      Actually, yes. I am also obligated to respond. I won't shut the fuck up because people get annoyed (and rightfully so) when I don't at least let people know I'm out here. I have mostly tried to shut up about what these problems are because I don't want to make excuses and they are irrelevant anyway. The reason I spoke up was in answer to "no one is working on this project any more" because that isn't the case.

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      Creator Savage Robby on December 2

      Uh huh. Personal problems since August of 2011, eh?

      Please, cut with the promises. Deliver something, or STFU.

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      Creator Mike Nystul on November 30

      I absolutely care. I have been dealing with some rather serious personal problems but the moment I have them sorted out I will get back to work on this. I am profoundly sorry for the delays.

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      Creator 6mmWar on November 30

      Chris, nice try but I think it is safe to say that no one is working on this project anymore, nor does anyone involved with the project care about your investment or opinions. We got taken.

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      Creator Troy Baker on November 30

      Chris you are right to add "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill" although I suspect a class action against this guy will not amount to anyone seeing a refund.

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      Creator Chris Perkins on November 25

      Any update on our PDFs? Since that's all we're getting at this point, it would be decent to see an updated rough draft.
      I'll leave this relevant comment off with a blurb from the friendly folks at Kickstarter:
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."

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      Creator James A on November 20

      Yes that was confusing, from an observational point, it looks like you are going around the internet crowd funding on different sites before you finish this one or the others. I don't know about FB i rarely go there, this was on my morning RPG news feed of blogs where i saw this. a lot of people are still patiently awaiting the completed PDF that you and Mr Shields are working on at this point. I understand from your updates that you are traveling around the country doing stand up and that you are still working on the PDF and that is great, when we see other crowd funding it does confuse people when you have said here that you are done with that method of game creation

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      Creator Mike Nystul on November 20

      James - I am selling terrain here and there. That was not a crowd funded anything. It was a personal appeal to friends for help. I never promoted it anywhere but my Facebook page and gave up on it very quickly. You are right - the last thing I need is more obligations. I have taken it down to remove any possible confusion.

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      Creator James A on November 20

      one thing that this has caused is alot of other cool dwarfed themed game bits to pop up in the DIYDnD movement. This http://www.gofundme.com/595uqs kinda threw me off as i had thought Mr. Nystul was done with crowd funding

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