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The Penultimate Map

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Here's a preview of the new Map of Creation in an almost finished state; there are just a few notes from the Devs that need to be sent to our brilliant cartographer and it'll be done. But rather than wait for that, here you go- happy holidays! 

Unapproved, almost-final, Map of Creation by Jared Blando.
Unapproved, almost-final, Map of Creation by Jared Blando.

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    1. Creator Christoph Laurer on January 13, 2014

      @ Dev Team: Will there be a large version of the map, large enough to be used by fans to use for their map projects? I couldn't wait seeing this Map be filled with all the locations large and small from 3 editions of Exalted.

    2. Creator Matthew John-Hall on January 8, 2014

      I do hope the west starts to make a bit more sense.

    3. Creator Alex Richard Glemzu Jr. on January 5, 2014

      What would be really helpful on either the map or in the text is a brief standard information on temporal mechanics since such things are important foundations of astronomy, farming, navigation (Land, Air, and Sea), and other timed actions. Too late probably, but telling someone that the day is 25 hours long per day, 7 days to a week, 4 weeks to a month, 3 months to a season, and 5 seasons a year, plus 5 days for Calibration could help storytellers plan events and character develop to scale. 425 days per year instead of 365 days will give players more things that can be done in a year, not less.

    4. Creator Paul Gibbon on January 3, 2014

      You teases. :) But it looks great, and I'm always a sucker for a good map.

    5. Creator Nathaniel Colon on January 2, 2014

      ... God that is sexy. That's gonna look AWESOME on my wall.

    6. Creator Cleveland English on January 2, 2014

      Sooo, depending on what you ordered, the "Estimated" Delivery date was either December or October, of last year. Was an updated (hopefully more accurate, say +/- 1 month) delivery time frame posted yet? Because don't get me wrong, while small updates like this are nice, what would really be appropriate is a rough project schedule. Nothing fancy, just something that we can somewhat depend on. Because the last EDoD could be classified as a joke, that is if it were at all funny.....which it isn't. Is this too much to expect?

    7. Creator Scaenicus on January 2, 2014

      @Ellen
      Why Earth projection? Creation is flat, isn't it?

    8. Creator Cassian Lawrence on January 2, 2014

      W....t....h?

      Just checked the unofficial Exalted wiki for info on Nightfall Island. So you can imagine my surprise when I discovered someone had edited it in 2011... with the story of my Campaign.... and tales of my Abyssals exploits on Nightfall Island

    9. Creator Cassian Lawrence on January 2, 2014

      @Ian Watson & Rich

      By the almighty armpit hair of Zeus! Damn my eyes and forgive my impertinence! The map is indeed bigger than I had thought at first glance. I beg forgiveness, would you like to rofflestomp me now or later?

      P.S. I do believe that Nightfall Island is bigger than its predecessor as well. Fantastic! Maybe I'll be able to find some more info on my favorite place in creation in EX3.... I have no idea where to find any on it at all. But my troupe always ends up there. Hell, my abyssal has a 5-Point manse there surrounded by a City of Free ghost blooded and mortals working as one

    10. Creator Cassandra Matteis on January 1, 2014

      @ Some Furf, it really seems like you're trying to find reasons to be angry. Seriously, copy paste the url of the old one and the new one in the same window and go back and forth. It's full of obvious differences that have nothing to do with continent names.
      Also, its not uncommon practice for graphic artists not to give full resolution images before payment, because being ripped off is a hugely prevalent thing in the field. Go to sites like http://clientsfromhell.net/ if you don't believe me.

    11. Creator Adam Mock on January 1, 2014

      Oh Jesus. This is amazing. I was trying to figure out how to get a copy of this image--when it was finally finished and in such a size to make this feasible--in a larger format to show people. then someone below reminded me there was the map option. And then I remembered I _had_ the map as part of my contribution. So yes. My day? Made.

    12. Creator Braden Kanipes on December 31, 2013

      The map is beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

    13. Creator Ellen Schousboe on December 31, 2013

      Also Ian, did you use an Earth projection that gives accurate/scale areas for each continent?

    14. Creator Ellen Schousboe on December 31, 2013

      Sad we can't see a higher resolution.

      Hmmmmm what are those circles around the Blessed Isle, Caul, western isles, and southeast isle? I seem to recall that the Caul is cut off from the Loom of Fate, so maybe the circles around it represent that?

      Ian, thanks for sharing those comparisons again. You remind me that most of the new water in the East was added outside of the boundaries of the earlier map. Your second map makes me want to take the Earth continents and see if I can smoosh them together and fit them on top of the landmass of the new map -- is your Earth-to-Creation comparison map to the same scale as the map from this update?

    15. Creator William Parker-Adams on December 31, 2013

      @James Shaw It was only a first impression. A complete snap judgement without any thought. I don't dislike variety, but I do despise arbitrary variety, hence the result of the snap judgement. Honestly, I like the idea of adding extra water to the map in areas other than the West, but without knowing more I can't make a more sensible comment without sounding like a complete idiot.

    16. Creator Naz on December 30, 2013

      such map
      very details
      travel=100x

      /meme

      Thanks again for sharing the progress!

    17. Creator Matías Nicolás Caruso on December 30, 2013

      Amazing map. Can't wait to see it in full size.

    18. Creator Joe McGinnis on December 30, 2013

      Absolutely stunningl. I do not regret throwing in near the end for the canvas map and cannot wait to get my hands on it.

    19. Creator Coyotekin on December 30, 2013

      Richard,

      The map looks pretty good so far. You and your team do really great work. Thanks for all of the hard work.

    20. Creator Gabe on December 30, 2013

      Guys. It's a map. Online.

    21. Creator Some furf on December 30, 2013

      No, he said it's the only size "we" have. Collectively speaking in both of his posts.

      Now go back to the previous update. "Jared is working on my last comments". That came directly from Richard. It was not prefaced with "From Holden" or "From John", so clearly he is involved in the mapmaking process, unless some other uncredited person is given access to the Kickstarter account in order to post about maps some of the time (But not this time).

      Also, this map is consistent with the other sizes previewed because the only previews have been ones directly uploaded to Kickstarter, which, as I've said, is limited to a width of 700 pixels.

    22. Creator Dmitri K. on December 30, 2013

      Some Furf: You are working on conjecture. Stop jumping to conclusions. Rich didn't say it was the working copy, he didn't say it's the only size that exists, he said it's the only size _he has_ (he, not the artist, not onyx path, not the devs) and the only one he needs (to show us, because the revisions aren't done and it's consistent with the other sizes previewed so far).

      He never claimed the things you say he claimed.

    23. Creator nathan cornall on December 30, 2013

      great job Jared blando, this is excellent, this is 10 times better than 2nd editions map, I love the new landmass's, and the new interesting place's, I like the addition of previously mentioned caul make its appearance. THANKS AND HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR!

    24. Creator Some furf on December 30, 2013

      But the thing is, Ian, with this being the almost-complete version of the map, all the large-scale items should be taken care of already. Just compare this to the map on the project's front page, which was posted back in May. The land masses haven't changed at all, so unless the forest borders needed to be put in a VERY particular spot, there's nothing left to perfect but details like names and locations. Since only the names of the continents are legible, I can't believe this is the actual copy used to verify those details.

      Just look at that ring of text around the east coast of The Blessed Isle. Can you read it? If you have the production notes you can probably work out what it should be, but can you verify that it's spelled correctly? What about every other place in Creation? What if one mistake happened to slip by earlier? A large copy is important at every stage.

      And besides, if filesize is actually a big issue somehow, then you can compromise in a much better way. Save it as a 95% quality JPG instead of a 3000x2000 uncompressed PNG. That'll get it down to, what, 2MB at the absolute most? Hardly a problem for anyone, even if they were using mobile internet.

      If Richard had just come clean and said that 700xXXX is the limit on images uploaded for Kickstarter, that would be cool. If Onyx Path wanted to keep unfinished copies small so that they wouldn't be circulated once the very final image is published, that would make sense. But claiming that this is the actual copy they are working with is absolute nonsense.

    25. Creator Ian A. A. Watson on December 30, 2013

      Please don't ignore the "be respectful and considerate" text right next to the Post Comment button.

      As Rich said, at this stage he personally did not need anything larger because the issues currently being worked on are large-scale things which can be seen at smaller resolutions. You don't want to be tossing high-res 15MB files around when you can just use 150KB files.

      When the large-scale items are all taken care of, then the finer details can be perfected.

    26. Creator Some furf on December 30, 2013

      You don't need a larger file? Seriously? Take a close look at it. There's a LOT of little text all over the place that is utterly impossible to read. You had plenty of back and forth with Jared to get the details right, but as-is, how can you possibly verify that anything is correct?

    27. Creator Richard Thomas on December 30, 2013

      Dear Some furf: you are welcome to believe what you want, but I have never lied to our fans. We didn't get or need a larger file because Jared was fixing a few things that we could clearly see at the resolution of this version. Just because you don't understand something doesn't call for personal attacks.

    28. Creator Some furf on December 30, 2013

      Further to that accusation of lying, I went looking around Kickstarter for examples of large artwork being posted and I found a consistent trend. I found several images with a horizontal resolution of exactly 700 pixels, but nothing beyond that. So it seems to me that this must be the limit Kickstarter places on uploads.

      Thus, we have two possible scenarios. Either the image was resized manually before being uploaded, in which case a larger copy may not have been passed into Richard's hands, or it was downscaled automatically by Kickstarter, in which case Richard does have a large copy and he's just chosen not to upload it anywhere else.

    29. Creator Some furf on December 30, 2013

      This is the biggest size available right now? I don't believe that for a minute. Why would an artist ever submit a severely-downscaled image for approval of its details? Why would any developer accept this as-is?

      Either something weird is going on at Onyx Path or Richard is lying. I can't imagine which is the case or why.

    30. Creator Brandon L. Quina on December 30, 2013

      Wow, that's awesome. Just wish we had a higher resolution version of it; so many awesome little details that look like they'd be pretty cool to see up close.

    31. Creator Simon Geard on December 30, 2013

      Wasn't too impressed by parts of the new map initially, particularly the jagged coastlines around the north, which were visually jarring in images like the ones StephenLS linked to below.

      But it's looking a lot nicer in this rendering... those hard lines don't stand out so much with the addition of the mountain ranges and trees and general mappy detail. Good work, folks.

    32. Creator Naz on December 30, 2013

      Can't wait to see the map at full don't-need-to-squint size.

      @Tab: Thank you for spreading the word that Jem is truly... truly outrageous.

    33. Creator Max Nevill on December 29, 2013

      Thanks for the update guys. This is really quite inspirational!

    34. Creator Matthew Walker on December 29, 2013

      So stoked for this edition! The cartographer is phenomenal!

    35. Creator Stephen Lea Sheppard on December 29, 2013

      I think he just means "To share with the public."

    36. Creator Nicholas Scott on December 29, 2013

      >
      Since clearly more folks are going to ask- No, I do not have a bigger size or resolution map at this stage. When it is done, we'll have a whole range of sizes, but right now you have what we have. Thanks!
      Since clearly more folks are going to ask- No, I do not have a bigger size or resolution map at this stage. When it is done, we'll have a whole range of sizes, but right now you have what we have. Thanks!

      Wut. Doesn't the production process go from high-res to low-reslow-res, because it's impossible to go the other way around because of physics/information theory? How could you possibly *not* have a high-res version?

    37. Creator Tab on December 29, 2013

      Jem is too outrageous to ever die!

      Ahem. I was wondering what was taking the map so long. Now I know. True quality cannot be rushed. The same can be applied to the wait for the corebook.

    38. Creator Brennen Willer on December 29, 2013

      Does Jem still die?

    39. Creator Ryan Powell on December 29, 2013

      Looks great. Very curious to learn what thelarge dark looking things in the east are. Enhance is failing me.

    40. Creator Stephen Lea Sheppard on December 29, 2013

      The game is still set in R.Y. 768; changes to the setting, like the sudden presence of the Caul and the Dreaming Sea, and the new coastline for the far North, will be presented as having always been there.

      It's kinda like going from Marvel to Ultimate Marvel, or old DC to New 52 DC, except not as drastic everywhere—if a setting element worked well, you're likely to find it largely unchanged, and I don't think we have any plans to turn previously sympathetic characters into colossal jerks or serial killers.

    41. Creator James Shaw on December 29, 2013

      Just across from the Caul.

    42. Creator James Shaw on December 29, 2013

      @Cassian Look at your old map carefully. The old map goes approximately out to those first 2 creases, then gets cut at the bottom just below that small archipelago off the southwestern shore.

    43. Creator Ian A. A. Watson on December 29, 2013

      Cassian, it is bigger. Here's a comparison I made with an earlier version of the map:

      http://24.media.tumblr.com/c3ca71b6ef325c999f09dd22ba346009/tumblr_mmnl67RjZ91rhvgmao1_1280.jpg

      And here's roughly how big it is compared to Earth:
      http://25.media.tumblr.com/ffa151f7829e5ec5c2c04bba0df0c1b4/tumblr_mmvne81oOQ1rhvgmao1_1280.jpg

    44. Creator Trodax on December 29, 2013

      Gorgeous!!!

    45. Creator Cassian Lawrence on December 29, 2013

      Oh...and FANTASTIC LOOKING MAP!!!
      Great work

    46. Creator Cassian Lawrence on December 29, 2013

      Wasnt the world supposed to be much bigger? It looks like the old map to me

    47. Creator bkee on December 29, 2013

      Is the time frame the same, 5 years after the Empress disappears? Is the new book a restart, or a continuation where something has happened to change face of creation?

    48. Creator Christopher Shaffer on December 29, 2013

      Oh my. I'd missed that Jared Blando was doing the map until now. Such a good choice, he's such a top-notch map artist.

    49. Creator Cassandra Matteis on December 29, 2013

      The map is really gorgeous. I can't wait to receive mine!
      Though based on the size, just how far away is the Blessed Isle form... everything? And some of the oceans?
      Still, quality on this is phenomenal.

      ...though part of me wants to go around the edges with rainbows and glitter and fill in "THE WYLD!!! :D" (Yes, I know, not fully accurate, but certainly a great contrast ;P Clearly just need to put the map on a bunch of Lisa Frank binders.)