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@John Kabler Thanks for the pic, but you mentioned something about flipping. Just as an FYI, I'm not sure it's meant to be flipped. That is a question I posed to the @Creator during the campaign and this was the response I got.
Me: "Does it have timers for only when things are done, or does it tell you when to flip the meat as well?"
Creator: "Hi Jason
There is no automatic timer to flip the meat. However there is a timer you can setup manual timer to notify you after x minutes or x minutes before food is ready.
For flipping meat, it isn't really time thing. My recommendation to cook most meats is to sear it at very hot temperature flip after getting nice color to the surface. Then after searing on the hot temperature, cook on in-direct heat for remaining time to slowly bring it to ready temperature. This how we did the food on our video and campaign pages... ( gets you nice and even result, cooking on direct heat for longer time gets you more brown and less red in middle vs with in-direct heat you get nice even result throughout )
thank you -- teemu"
I don't know if things have changed, perhaps if they have the @Creator could chime in.
@Doug: It's already been said multiple times that the bottom portion of the probe (the part that goes into the meat) uses the meat as an insulator so that it does NOT get to hot. The back end that sticks out can withstand a lot higher temperatures. I'm fairly certain the temperatures were mentioned at one point somewhere. Feel free to search for them here.
I still have not received mine. Early KS backer. Please provide ETA.
"What does one gain?"
That's the perfect question.
Time... The ability to finish your cook sooner.
With Sous Vide, it's practically impossible to over-cook. But it is still possible to under-cook. So, we just error on the long side. With a real-time monitor of the food's core temperature, you could know just exactly when the desired core temperature is reached -- the point beyond which additional cooking has no benefit-- thus saving time.
But Sous Vide is not just about temperature. I often Sous Vide flank steak, a notoriously tough cut, for 48 hours. The result is often mistaken for something like NY strip. It's not the temperature that does this, that breaks down all the tough tissue, it's time-at-temperature.
So, a temperature probe in Sous Vide would not be as helpful as some may think:
I do some sous vide but never thought of using a thermometer on the meat. what does one gain from that?
I think the water will be more of an issue than a vacuum..
If they can seal/harden the casing to withstand the vacuum, then the issue is only with signal propagation through the water... What rage decrease were you finding with wifi under water? It may end up that they just need to put their phone/block/link immediately beside the sou vide cooker...
Judging by Chucks amount of comments and knowledge I wouldn't mess with him
@chuck Your right that's what sous vide translates to but you don't have to use a vacuum sealer to cook sous vide. I use a water displacement method every time. Thermoworks makes a sousvide thermometer. I personally just trust my joule never needed one.
Sous Vide is going to be a tough nut to crack. I don't know about Bluetooth in water, but I have experimented extensively with WiFi in water and I suspect that Bluetooth is even worse given the lower power levels. These frequencies just don't propagate well in water at all.
Also, the Vide in Sous Vide means vacuum. Drawing a vacuum on a battery not specifically designed for that use is not good. I don't know anything about the battery in the Meater Probe except that our creators had a heck of a time finding it and it was selected for high-temperature operations. It may not also be suitable for use in a vacuum.
Fair warning @bill, sous vide isn't supported, despite being delicious.
Amy other reviews? If I received mine, I would be testing on my smoker, bbq, oven, and Sous vide while posting all kind of pics.
@ J. Arnold I used mine again last weekend on some chicken breasts. The probe placement in the pic didn't work so well when I flipped them (I wish the app told me when to flip what I'm cooking) - so, I had to reinsert it more from the side. The chicken didn't turn out as well as the Pork Loin I grilled last weekend - but, that may have been a result of fidgeting with the probe placement. But, I'm a chronic over-cooker, and the probe has definitely improved my game. http://www.fototime.com/3EF61483618FDE5/medium800.jpg
Yes, John Kabler a couple of posts down.
Can any backer confirm here that he got a Meater?
Is this really happening? Im not getting my hopes up until Meathead gets his unit and does a review...
"Apparently apple devices can't even see the estimated ship dates for projects..."
Kickstarter buries that in a recent update.
My guess is that they got tired of backers going ballistic when estimated shipping dates got missed.
I still think everything is sketchy....fingers crossed. No video, horrible pics, bad updates. Sorry Chuck, trying to see the positive but probably not gonna feel warm and fuzzy until I get shipping info!!
... concerning your first picture of the actual update ... THIS IS THE WORST IMAGE I HAVE EVER SEEN HERE ON KICKSTARTER ... »shows exactly nothing but paper boxes«??? ...
Yup... The mobile apps are basically only able to track updates and comments...
Can't check/see/fill surveys, can't send/check dm/pm...
Apparently apple devices can't even see the estimated ship dates for projects...
Glad these are stating to ship finally! I am really wondering what Chuck Gollnick will do with all the extra time he will have on his hands when this is all over! :) ...nobody can question his level of conviction about this project that is for sure.
Oh, well there you go, haven't even noticed that! So these information are nowhere to be found in the mobile apps? That's ... unnecessary.
You forgot to mention that those instructions only work when logging into the kickstarter website via a web browser. Mobile apps do t support any of that for some reason.
Klick on your avatar in the upper right corner, then klick on "show all projects". In the list, klick on the Meater campaign and then the "survey" register. It will display your address and there you can change it.
Notice all the pics in this update have the probe protected from direct heat? Hmm.. Hope I don't learn (if I ever get my block) that the battery will be shot after a month.
Another update lacking details.
I love looking at my pledge with an estimated delivery of Jan 2016......
Are you going to email us and let us know when our own item is scheduled to ship??
I have recently moved and cannot find where I change my address, can you please help? Thanks
It's great that you update us, but once again, this update lacks the meat we were asking for.
HOW many single probes were shipped? HOW many are you planning to ship in the next batch.
Block probe updates from here on need to have some more information on what the progress is, as well as telling us honestly any setbacks and what they were. Don't string us along with promises they will ship in May, only to backpedal on dates for months without telling us why.
Sounds like it will be just in time for bbq season here in the Pacific northwest. Thanks for the update, looking forward to my meater. way to keep moving forward!
Would it be possible to receive a weekly update? Or at least, every two weeks?
Any updates pls
all these pictures of probes sticking in a piece of meat look like a fake, the probe is always perfectly clean and not how you would expect it if it was in the meat the whole time.
I am delighted to see the first round of actual Kickstarter rewards has been shipped.
I am hoping that more backers will post about receiving theirs.
I am also curious as to how many were sent in the first round, when the second round is expected, and how many are expected to be in the second round. Hopefully our creator (small c creator) will include some of that information in an update.
The progress is great and I'm looking forward to the next update and to eventually receiving my Meater Blocks.
Any updates on the block? Would be great to hear.
That should have said is not an exact...
Chuck, despite your desire to come down on anyone who doesn't have happy thoughts and comments for "the creators", asking if more than one backer received their probe is not inappropriate.
Based on his stated backer number, we can assume they did ship a batch. But just how big of a batch can't be determined. So if someone was backer #653 for a single probe, and they shipped a batch of 100, knowing that would give some indication of when they might get their probe if they continued to ship a batch of 100 every week.
And of course even that is an exact indication as early backer # would not distinguish between single probe and block backers who still will not see theirs for months to come likely. So you would have those to pull out of the guess for shipping time.
But regardless, an update from "the creators" on how many were shipped, and expected future shipping numbers is not an out of bounds question for "the creators".
Excuse me, as 99.99% empty or 0.01% full.
This is one of those cases where you can choose to see the glass as 0.99% empty, or 0.01% full. I choose to perceive it as progress and a good thing.
So..... did more than one backer out of 9,737 receive anything?
@John just saw your pic. Beautiful and I'm glad to eat this slice of humble pie.
@Christopher......that was perfect!!
nice one ;)
Meat each other half way?
Sorry, couldn't resist
Alright, whatever, we will never be on the same page here, let's just let it rest and try not to step on each others nerves here anymore.
There is no way you can blame anyone for their skepticism on this project and, in turn, skepticism when someone finally states that they got the product. I simply asked if it was true and then gave a big "Thank You"!
Calling a troll? Questioning his veracity?
Yes, he was attacked.
And yes, I can be aggressive when I believe in something... like civility.
Do you have other posts in your comments board than I do? I can see nobody attacking John's character or making coming here a negative experience for him. You make it sound like there was a shitstorm here, when all (three) people did is basically ask if he is for real (and, btw, then thank him). If anything, you " apologizing for your fellow backers" and then "see if they have the character to apologize themselves" is aggressive.
I'm stoked to see a Meater out in the world, thanks for the pic, John! Please do keep telling us what you think.
Instead of attacking Mr. Kabler, why not thank him for sharing this good news with us? Why not celebrate with him his good fortune in being one of the first to receive his Meater reward?
Why not make coming here a positive experience for him? In that way, maybe he will continue to share his Meater experience with us. People do well and do repeatedly that which they enjoy doing. If you make something unpleasant, then people will stop doing it. This is basic. If you want to hear about the experiences of the first Meater recipients, then don't attack them, criticize them, or belittle them. Welcome them. Thank them. Celebrate with them. Make it a pleasant experience for them to come here and share with us.
The common practice on Kickstarter is to refer to the project's creator(s) as... well... the creator. This is not to be confused with The Creator, a term for God.
And when you call someone a troll and question their veracity, you are, indeed, attacking that person's character.