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As the captain of a Mandate starship, you lead a crew through the galaxy where they will adapt and grow as they fight alongside you.
As the captain of a Mandate starship, you lead a crew through the galaxy where they will adapt and grow as they fight alongside you.
As the captain of a Mandate starship, you lead a crew through the galaxy where they will adapt and grow as they fight alongside you.
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    1. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      just now

      So...official forum is dead too - wow yeh that's it - just be this ghost till KS close it

    2. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      about 17 hours ago

      @Ben, who are you getting a refund from?

      The company that made the game is belly up, the one linked to it has no responsibilities under KS

      I'm over $100 down so salty as hell but nadda I can do

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      Arthur B
      Superbacker
      1 day ago

      @Gary Sweatt - Doesn't matter that those terms of use got changed - the project ran under the old rules, therefore the odds are any court would rule that these are the rules that apply.

    4. Binh Thach 2 days ago

      In case anybody miss it...http://www.mandategame.com/forum/im-throwing-towel

      Game is officially DEAD. RIP my $75...Damn you ANGRYJOE!!! lol jk.

    5. Mike Mudgett
      Superbacker
      2 days ago

      Where in the world did people get these templated "invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use" thing? It reminds me of people who forward chain letters to avoid bad luck, or other scams to target the gullible. I see these all the time for failed KS projects.

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      Gary Sweatt 5 days ago

      @Benjamin, that isn't happening. On top of that, your link goes to a set of Kickstarter rules that were changed about four years ago.

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      Benjamin Abrams 5 days ago

      invoke my rights under Kickstarter's Terms of Use:
      https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012
      "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill."
      I demand a full refund for my pledge amount

    8. MoonRaven on

      Damn, I remember playing this a couple of years ago at Gamescom... I didn't think it was dead....

    9. Judd M. Goswick
      Superbacker
      on

      @Mr. Sticky Pants, just be there for her. The Mandate will just leave one day without a word. She will be fine, because The Mandate is all tease and no action. Just make sure she doesn't go to Far West as a rebound...

    10. Mr. Sticky Pants on

      The Mandate is now dating my sister. What should I do? Tell her the truth?

    11. Anaxphone
      Superbacker
      on

      "Last login Jul 21 2017"

      :-\

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      JediaKyrol on

      @Christopher Cookson and they're using poorly photoshopped pictures from TV shows (Eureka?) and movies (Star Wars?) as advertising for their "revolutionary" "virtual teleportation" system...while managing to not say a single word about the tech.

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      JediaKyrol on

      @Scott Petrie actually, what I "bought" was a Digital PDF Concept Book, Wallpapers, Social Media Icon Packs, Digital Soundtrack, and Lore Codex...seeing as those were claimed to all have been complete or near complete and were the "reward" for the tier (ignoring the game and in-game items...really, people should quit putting the finished product as a reward) and according to KS's rules at the time the project was put up...it was deliver rewards or offer refund.

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      Scott Petrie on

      Christian Weinmüllner 1 day ago
      It certainly isn't nice if the devs just "disappear" and we get "nothing" in return to our backing. But KS was and always will be a plattform to "support creators to give them the opportunity to create". The only thing the creators promise, with varying degrees of (self)confidence, is their best effort to make the things happen they want to. No matter the wording, what we "bought" was the chance to have this project made into a game, no guarantees. They did produce a lot of stories, they did produce a lot of prototypes, and I even played a level of ship invasion on GamesCom in Cologne some years ago.

      So, as sorry as I am that this project didn't work out (I REALLY liked their initial pitch of a "playable episode of Star Trek, but mostly procedurally generated"), they did what they promised to do, namely TRY to make it happen. That they were bad at it and that they obviously lacked A LOT of leadership which made their cost and time go off the rails, burning through the backer money within a year with nothing to show for but a pitch prototype to get more money. And they obviously moved on in the second half of 2017 without even a hint to the expecting community. All bad things. But nothing that can be blamed on Kickstarter - they warn you that they are not a shop, and did so since the beginning - and contractually nothing that can be blamed on Perihelion either. They tried to make it happen, we supported them in trying, they failed, everybody is sad. End of story.

      you sound like the kinda person that works in a bank !

    15. Alex on

      So for some weird reason , i totally forgot "the mandate" and just because of xenonauts 2 (i think) i remembered, checked back and oh yes as i feared... the game is dead and the devs cut and run instead of at least having the balls to go out and say "guys sorry we fucked up, be it for feature creep or underestimating our goals, but we fucked it hard, we are sorry but we have to put the project on hold - please dont be mad, it wasnt deliberate".... something like this.... i have no problem with someone on KS fucking up if he AT LEAST HAS THE DECENCY TO WRITE A SMALL APOLOGY... no they just went dark... [insert censored sweare word here]

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      Christian Weinmüllner on

      It certainly isn't nice if the devs just "disappear" and we get "nothing" in return to our backing. But KS was and always will be a plattform to "support creators to give them the opportunity to create". The only thing the creators promise, with varying degrees of (self)confidence, is their best effort to make the things happen they want to. No matter the wording, what we "bought" was the chance to have this project made into a game, no guarantees. They did produce a lot of stories, they did produce a lot of prototypes, and I even played a level of ship invasion on GamesCom in Cologne some years ago.

      So, as sorry as I am that this project didn't work out (I REALLY liked their initial pitch of a "playable episode of Star Trek, but mostly procedurally generated"), they did what they promised to do, namely TRY to make it happen. That they were bad at it and that they obviously lacked A LOT of leadership which made their cost and time go off the rails, burning through the backer money within a year with nothing to show for but a pitch prototype to get more money. And they obviously moved on in the second half of 2017 without even a hint to the expecting community. All bad things. But nothing that can be blamed on Kickstarter - they warn you that they are not a shop, and did so since the beginning - and contractually nothing that can be blamed on Perihelion either. They tried to make it happen, we supported them in trying, they failed, everybody is sad. End of story.

    17. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      on

      /facepalm

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      Christopher Cookson on

      Well Matus' new company has managed to crowdfund another €620k in investments...

      https://www.crowdberry.eu/en/matsuko

    19. Mr. Sticky Pants on

      The Mandate, I hate you. You are not my father. I hate you. Why don't you just leave?

    20. Ruinous on

      Its so very disappointing when KS project devs cut and run without even having the decency to make an apology post and explain the project is on hold / cancelled. Leaves a bad taste and sours KS for other projects, not to mention being disrespectful of the good people who backed it. Bad form, very bad form.

    21. John M Weirich on

      dont forget to let funcom know how much you love their staff that take your money and run to a new company - https://www.funcom.com/about-us/

    22. John M Weirich on

      The "CEO" of Perihelion Interactive LLC has moved to another company before the last update was posted, feel free to send them your thoughts - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ole-herbj%C3%B8rnsen-4333722/

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      :-s on

      It would be neat if the IP and assets could be declared/released as a commons resource at the very least. At least Something might come out of the project this way..

    24. Mr. Sticky Pants on

      Oops... Wrong project. Only cricket here.

    25. Mr. Sticky Pants on

      Woo-hoo. Just got my copy. Been playing it all week.

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      tbrass on

      Hmmm... Maybe KS should add a 'mandatory release of all assets under GPL/3 ; cc licensing should the project fail to release."

      Wouldn't fix physical projects, but it would be nice on the software side of things. I was really enjoying the lore :-)

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      Scott Petrie on

      absolutely shocking customer service from Kickstarter as well ! I sent a few emails back an forth only to get " nothing we can do " or automated cut and paste responses ... this project made $701,010 with no sign of the game and Kickstarter doesn't care because they have already made money of it ... so now we are all left with what ? what the hell do we do ? screw robbing a bank setting up a project seems a lot easier !!

      I will not back anymore projects on through kickstarter and will think twice before backing anything else for that matter !

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      Gary Sweatt on

      Kickstarter got over $56,000 dollars for this project.

    29. Quinton Evans on

      So frustrated by this.

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      Peter Lyons on

      So what’s the situation? Anything official?

    31. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      on

      Kickstarter as a company are a joke - we take 8% and host your idea likely collect the money

      Basically we do diddlysquat but host a giant forum, and process some money - and we take an 8% cut

      Nothing anyone can do - the company is gone, the money gone, reading between the lines this company was spun off to run this kick-starter and manage the risk of it going south - which it did so, the company can disband, and the moneys gone.

      It may or may not have all been a scam - the only game play video was a joke

    32. Nasser Alsafari on

      To me.. Kickstarter lost all its credibility.. This is pure scam

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      Sebastian Engholm on

      Written to Kickstarter about this... Complete apathy... Our money is gone, and Kickstarter took a lot of it and ignores us...

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      Anders Björkland on

      "Mission accomplished"

    35. Simon on

      RIP - good idea - very shitty devs

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      James Lambly on

      so....basically wasted all our money and crumbled...lovely

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      William on

      There's a lot Kickstarter should do; unfortunately it seems as if they simply don't care. I've written to Kickstarter about a failed project, but was only ever given a generic reply. At this point I'm just waiting for my other backed projects to deliver or fail. I'm pretty much done with Kickstarter/Crowdfunding.

    38. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      on

      nearly 10 months since they even logged in over a year since the update - this is deader then disco

    39. Mr. Sticky Pants on

      Kickstarter should blacklist anyone or any company that does not deliver. This includes any company hiring someone that is blacklisted or worked for a blacklisted company.

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      TheGreesh on

      This is the only KS project I backed that hasn't delivered a product. Playing Stellar Tactics at the moment which I picked up on steam. Seems a decent way to scratch this itch.

    41. robert guess on

      well hell... company disbanded and nothing else... I was really looking forward to this game.

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      Shazbot on

      This project is obviously toast. 3 years late. No updates for over a year. People have moved off to other employment.

      We need to demand that the we get *something* for our time. The resources used for the game should be released to the backers. There are 16408 backers. That's more than enough for a class action suit. (The class being "scammed investors").

    43. Wes Johnson on

      "Looks like the Perihelion CEO has resurfaced at Funcom as a senior producer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ole-herbj%C3%B8rnsen-4333722/

      Perhaps we should direct our queries there."
      ------------------------------------------------------------

      Looks like he is a screw up and move up kind of guy.

    44. Kai Barnard
      Superbacker
      on

      Happy one year anniversary last update - I suspect 'last' is right

    45. Count Thalim on

      @Beardpick, I'm not disputing that Perihelion have a duty to deliver or that the FTC is capable of prosecuting a case like this. I think we are arguing two separate points here.

      In the 9 years Kickstarter has been in existence the FTC has prosecuted 1 case related to the site. The below mentioned Chevalier case.
      Washington State has also made a prosecution, though I am not certain if that resulted in anything actually being paid out or just a judgement.
      That is 2 cases in the whole period. Given the number of Scams that do float around Kickstarter if the FTC was actually going to be target it there would have been a lot more.

      Basically I agree with you that the FTC could attempt a prosecution, but I see no evidence that they intend to do so in this or any other Kickstarter.
      If you think my logic here is wrong I would love to be corrected. Having some state guns onside would make getting a resolution a lot faster.

    46. beardpick on

      @Count Thalim, the FTC stated in the case that crowdfunded projects have to deliver, what they state the funds are being used to produce. Perihelion didn't deliver anything as of yet, and what they did state they were going to deliver in the last updates, was grossly different than what was promised in the kickstarter. That in and of itself would be grounds for backers to request refunds, as you can't bait-and-switch a product, as that's consumer fraud in the eyes of the FTC. Considering previous cases that have been taken up by the FTC, I don't think jurisdictional issues would prevent them from taking on a case like this one, as it would further allow them to set precedent in federal court.

    47. Count Thalim on

      @Beardpick, I am afraid I have not seen the breakdown of costs, as much as I would dearly like to. But the differences in output between the cases is significant.
      I happily accept that there is possible jurisdiction for the FTC in the case, not only in that of Kickstarters New York jurisdiction but also the original Delaware listing of Perihellion.
      Regardless of jurisdiction, however, the FTC is unlikely to take up a complex case which will require collaboration across 2 states & 3 countries. They will go for larger & easier targets. If you have further information about the FTC taking action then please let us all know.

    48. beardpick on

      @Count Thalim, have you seen an account of how the funds were used? If so, please provide it to the rest of the backers. The use of Kickstarter, headquartered in Brooklyn New York, as their crowdfunding vehicle would place them under the jurisdiction of the FTC for any US backers of the project. Matus Kirchmayer might argue that non-US backers would not be covered by an FTC judgement, but it would be difficult considering the Terms of Service clearly state "In the unfortunate situation where legal action does arise, these Terms (and all other rules, policies, or guidelines incorporated by reference) will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of New York and the United States" https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use…

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